Starfleet Strider Class - Star Trek: Legacy (Game Ship)

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@reecedrury4145 8 месяцев назад

I just reckon it's a fast response/ patrol ship. Oberth is very quick for its day with those nacelles. Explains the heavy armament and lack of living space

@xheralt 8 месяцев назад

I'm mixing metaphors for arc descriptions, mixing SFB & Squadron Strike terminology. Each color represents a 30 degree arc. Yellow is centerline plus/minus 15 degrees, +1 hex up and down every 4 hexes forward. Blue is the next 30 degrees above or below ship centerline. Green is the next 30 degrees above blue, and purple is essentially straight up or down plus/minus the remaining 15 degrees. Red arc cone expands +1 hex away from centerline every 4 levels of altitude difference. Search "Squadron Strike Range Angle Lookup Table" to see it in chart form.

@44WarmocK77 8 месяцев назад

TMP Nova == instant like. ^^ I'd roll the nacelles 90 degrees and mount the struts to the edge of the secondary hull, preferably a bit further aft. Then it would be a major winner. Time for Blender I guess. 😁

@DanBen07 8 месяцев назад

Actually I believe on the game that it's a 22nd century ship you could get it in Captain Archer missions.

@larqven0192 8 месяцев назад

I really like the idea that this ship could be a tender. A repair and supply ship that has an ability to defend itself and play an active support role when going to the rescue and repair of a larger vessel.

@ViroVV 8 месяцев назад

Like Work Bee: The Ship 2- Tugtastic Boogaloo.

@denbaker7358 8 месяцев назад

I'm convinced that the Texas class is a modern version of this ship

@KamepinUA 8 месяцев назад

Ah, that's the ship my corvettes in Stellaris are modded to look like!

@james8449100 8 месяцев назад

New horizons or civilization? Or just the models

@KamepinUA 8 месяцев назад

@@james8449100 civilization

@weirdkitty07 8 месяцев назад

It's so cute! I want to make one!

@DaiAtlus79 8 месяцев назад

these strike me as something that is used in wings, like sending 5 or so to deal with incursions like Romulans edging in from the Neutral Zone, like a PT boat. the underslung cargo bay is practical for loading/unloading cargo (torpedoes and the like) while the read dorsal facing would be used for ingress/egress of things like evac shuttles or troop movement. She's not a destroyer, she's a corvette. It can work as a scout, but to me, that's not its only usage by far.

@jtjames79 8 месяцев назад

It's like a PT boat had a love child with a Toyota Helix. The back deck is like a pickup bed, it's for whatever you want it to be for. Probably with environmental shield coverage. She actually looks like she was made for repair and towing. Those phaser banks could be optimized for welding and scrapping. Not to say they wouldn't be good in a fight. I think those doors are direct access to the engine room and warp core. For jump starting or powering a Starship it's been tasked to rescue. That's why the warpedness cells are sideways so they can tow up to two additional starships above and below. But just because it can tow another ship doesn't necessarily mean you want it to do that. If it can power the other ships warp systems then then both can travel under their own steam in formation. I see it as a jack of all trades ship that is meant to punch above its weight class for very short amounts of time, to fill tactical gaps and get things back up and running. At least that's how I see it.

@DaiAtlus79 8 месяцев назад

@@jtjames79 in other words its like a Ute. USS El Camino would be apt lol

@jtjames79 8 месяцев назад

@@DaiAtlus79 🤣

@DanBen07 8 месяцев назад

Memory beta says "The Strider-class was a series of United Earth scout starships in Earth Starfleet service around the time of the 22nd century. During the latter half of the 2150s decade, ships of the Strider-class were among those which saw action against the Romulan Star Navy in the Earth-Romulan War. (ST video game: Legacy)"

@MT2_Warlock 8 месяцев назад

I think the one thing that bugs me about it is the nacelles being on their sides. Maybe it would look better if they were rotated 90 degrees? Also, something that small should have landing legs, or be capable of water landings. Nice little design otherwise aside from the Impulse Engine placement.

@MrSheckstr 8 месяцев назад

The naccelles look mismatch… port side looks higher than it is wide, starboard side the other way around but you are right…. The pin striping on both its wrong

@chrisjohnson1146 8 месяцев назад

I remember the Strider. I also remember wondering why they put it in the Enterprise era when it was VERY OBVIOUSLY TMP era.

@DanBen07 8 месяцев назад

Yeah I also posted a comment about it being in the 22nd century missions. I agree with you. So thay made it look tmp era but they gave it 22nd century tech.

@radicalgoodspeed16 8 месяцев назад

I used the dickins out of this ship its speed was a great asset against the romulans

@Beuwen_The_Dragon 8 месяцев назад

Good overall concept, just needs a little bit of scaling with the shuttle bays, a new bridge module and a few less phaser emplacements on the underside. She would make an excellent general purpose Patrol Corvette/Escort/Hunter, intended for short Border patrols, system policing monitors and merchant escort duties. Basically it would be intended for anything that requires more speed and firepower than an Oberth, but doesn't require as much crew or firepower as a frigate class like a Miranda. Small, cheap, enough guns to hold its own against pirates and border skirmishes.

@raabaddler5802 8 месяцев назад

that deck cut out on the shuttle bay might be a clip in cargo bay, or maybe it doesn't store the shuttles in a hanger just lash them to the hull and eva to the shuttles or under a environmental shield?? or perhaps it could serve as a 1st draft of the Texas Class from lower decks?

@jtjames79 8 месяцев назад

I was just punking the exact same thing about environmental shields. I think those big doors are actually accessed directly to the warp core and engine room. It's not a bug. It's a feature, from when you need to supply something with a lot of power. Kind of reminds me of a Toyota Helix. It's a Corvette size technical. Same thing with the forward landing pads. We have also seen phasers used as tools as well as weapons. Those turret balls could be optimized for welding and scrapping. Not to say they ain't good in a fight but not the reason they were put there in the first place. I like to imagine the sideways warp cells are that way because it's designed to tow other starships, possibly two at a time above and below. I'd like to imagine it's the sort of ship that operates with a small crew of a couple of dozen at most. Also like to imagine that big staging deck at the back could be a modular cargo system. Or any other purpose you needed like extra living quarters for personnel transfer. I get the feeling of a workhorse that's meant to plug holes wherever they happen to be whenever they happen to be. It's expected to punch above its weight class, at least for a very short periods of time.

@travelswithsi8932 8 месяцев назад

I like this design, it reminds me of a non starfleet built cargo / ancillary vessel which starfleet may have bought a few to supplement its merchant / support arm.

@paulrasmussen8953 8 месяцев назад

Warp might be a horizontal

@MercShame 8 месяцев назад

It heavily reminds me of the Archer class from the books, which was a scout ship that only had a crew of 5 to 8.

@jtjames79 8 месяцев назад

This beautiful ship is competing for my affections against my precious Oberth. I feel dirty, dirty, dirty, dirty 🥵

@DanBen07 8 месяцев назад

Actually it's a 22nd century ship you can get it in Captain Archer levels. It has pulse phase cannons,Photonic torpedo launcher, and polarized hull plating. I always thought the ship look out of place and should have been 23rd century tmp.

@power543 8 месяцев назад

......yeh no...its clearly in no way an archer era design. its a tmp design, everything about it says that.

@linz8291 Месяц назад

lol...if this ship is typically from 22nd century, how about to drive this to 32nd century...

@Matthew_Raymond 8 месяцев назад

I like the ship a lot in concept, but not quite as much in practice. Feels like a first draft of a much better ship design.

@jtjames79 8 месяцев назад

I like the idea of landing shuttles or anything else you want on those pads and then extending the environmental field to get in and out. I definitely feel like there's room for an elevator though.

@MrSheckstr 8 месяцев назад

That or ….. its a “truck bed” which means their can be any sort of other “things” that can be slotted in their…. Which makes this a multi mission vessel…. Which gels with my opinion on the oberth class , where its lower structure is irrelevant to space flight and can be removed and replaced with any sort of other structure you can think of …. This slot is like the cargo bay of the NASA shuttle

@DanBen07 8 месяцев назад

Actually in the game this ship is in Captain Archer levels so it's a 22nd century ship. I always thought it looked out of place.

@TrentonBennett 8 месяцев назад

It's an interesting design I'll give it that. I will agree with Sam that the bridge piece is a disappointment with it just being a Connie Refit bridge. I will also agree with him about the window sizing. They are WAY off in scale for that ship. I agree with the Captain that it's got a science ship vibe...not only because of the nacelles but that landing pad deal at the aft of the ship. This was a bit of a lazy designed ship in my opinion. I think the nacelles should be turned so they're the same way as on the Oberth class. Those yellow things are definitely RCS thrusters. I agree with the Captain get rid of that impulse deck and put them on the back of the saucer. It just seems this ship was a bit lazy put together...

@DanBen07 8 месяцев назад

Actually it's not tmp you can get this ship in the Captain Archer levels. So its a 22nd century ship with pulse phase cannons, Photonic torpedo launcher, and polarized hull plating.

@baystated 8 месяцев назад

LOL. the shuttle bay net. You forget about it and then someone reminds you. Ohman.

@jamesabernethy7896 8 месяцев назад

I really like Star Trek Legacy and really like this design. It's a bit of a niche ship in terms of what it would be capable of but I think it fits nicely into the Star Trek Universe. I don't think I ever used it in game.

@tsechejak7598 8 месяцев назад

That ship is a TOM version of TNG Aquino class from Armada, close to the same except Aquino deflector hull goes closer to front of saucer

@richardajoy79 8 месяцев назад

A TMP Texas-class, thankfully without the artificial intelligence.

@timmaslin2744 8 месяцев назад

yeah Definitely Texas not nova

@DanBen07 8 месяцев назад

Actually it's not tmp you can get this ship in the Captain Archer levels. So its a 22nd century ship with pulse phase cannons, Photonic torpedo launcher, and polarized hull plating.

@abx42 6 месяцев назад

The Nacelles are driving me nuts lol. Never seen them like that b4.

@Ty-yt3lj 6 месяцев назад

Nominally the Constellation and Raging Queen have similar nacelle styles... but the Constellation has 4 so it doesn’t count

@markpardoe7002 8 месяцев назад

I like this little ship ❤😊

@simmonranger2607 8 месяцев назад

TMP Archer Class refit, Small crew compliment say about 20. General purpose patrol ship with enough moxie to defend it's self or act as an escort to the larger ships.

@loganholmberg2295 8 месяцев назад

I like it. it's very archer like. If you chg a couple of things to make the hulll shape make more sense I think it would make a great little scout/spy ship.

@tsechejak7598 8 месяцев назад

Cold war destroyer look with landing pad behind shuttlebay

@nekophht 8 месяцев назад

The issue with "Plan B" landings is the issue I have with Akira deck plans that give it a single warp core that goes through the flight deck. Maybe halve the landing "deck" exterior section and shift the shuttlebay back into that recovered space. Maybe shift the nacelle pylons back a bit as well (and roll the nacelles 90 degrees so they're upright like on Oberth). I feel like if it's a cargo/tender design, it has way too many phaser banks. And if it's a combat ship, it has too much shuttle/cargo space implied. A test bed... yeah, I could really see that. If we scaled it based on the bridge module rather than the windows... it feels like it works better overall. Does the front view make you think of Prometheus, minus the bottom two nacelles? That's the kinda vibe I get.

@graemechapman4957 8 месяцев назад

This design to me suggested that it had at max a crew of maybe 15-30 who probably hot-bunked, it's primary mission would likely have been short-range intercept/system patrol for frontier systems, likely max warp 8.6 for only a few hours, but a cruise speed of warp 5.5. it would also feature self sustaining capabilities due to assignment to frontier systems and likely lack of infrastructural support in such systems, like the mentioned workerbees, the hangers placement suggests that they likely go off to the sides for storing the shuttles, as for the warp core, we may be looking at a possible horizontal or even a early iteration of the Hyper-Injection core used on Sisko's Defiant; Star Fleet was known to be fooling around with warp core technologies during the TMP Era. And yes i did Play this ship in ST: Legacy (2006), I found it ok but rather fragile if not handled right.

@DanBen07 8 месяцев назад

Actually it's not tmp you can get this ship in the Captain Archer levels. So its a 22nd century ship with pulse phase cannons, Photonic torpedo launcher, and polarized hull plating.

@linz8291 Месяц назад

Light vessel has 15-20 crews are enough to linked with mothership networks, even though warp speed at 8.6 as maximum level is not very fast. However, if this ship has long-distance mission to somewhere, to punch some temporary portals by circulating laser beam and then turn on Tachyonic sliptime system in the hyper-drive would be faster than warp speed.

@fedricojgarza464 8 месяцев назад

Don't show this to Worf That cool looking tiny starship 😮🎉

@44WarmocK77 8 месяцев назад

Worf:"Tiny?"

@fedricojgarza464 8 месяцев назад

@@44WarmocK77 lol 😆

@pcheintz7264 4 месяца назад

Hmmm... Regarding the warp core, it could be a horizontal core, rather than vertical, allowing the shuttle bays interior to go further into the ship w/o issue I don't like the nacelles going sideways. The "staging area" I feel should be perhaps half the size, as it takes away valuable interior room. It reminds me a bit of a perimeter action ship I came across once, which has similar nacelles to an oberth, coming out of the saucer sideways, Kind of like a frigate version of this, even had a similar 'staging area'... it was called the Ashton. Scaling might be a bit off as you guys discussed. Otherwise, I do somewhat like this.

@garypalmer997 8 месяцев назад

I feel the nacelles needed to be tilted based on the connection to struts

@autumnrosewood1976 8 месяцев назад

Could be for supporting ground units

@chrisbruce5711 8 месяцев назад

Can you go over all the Odyssey classes from star trek online, the last version you guys looked at, the skin was the old version. There are also many classes inspired by the odyssey you have the Sojourner class, Yorktown class, Endeavour class, Lexington-class, and finally Verity Class the original one. Just thinking you might like to look at all of these, mostly as the model did get upgraded after Picard..

@tsechejak7598 8 месяцев назад

Underside looks like the old armada game Aquino

@stevenmcgrath5114 8 месяцев назад

Hummm, Oberth nacelles, TMP bridge (scales the design), Voyagerish hull, looks like a kitbash to me. Nice little science ship thoigh.

@SnowmanTF2 8 месяцев назад

I kind of like the overall feel, and it seems like the show could have used more medium sized federation ships in cannon. Though like you mention, when you look at the details it fells like the proportions are a bit off; it seems like the easiest fixes would be moving nacelles back a bit further, and enlarge the saucer a bit. Though I suspect some of the issues come from in normal gameplay might not see enough of the ship for it to register as issues, compounded by it sounds like an early ship that most players would move past relatively quickly.

@mattmon6118 8 месяцев назад

Strider was in the ENT era, not TMP (in the game) At least in the XBOX 360 version

@skywipe1949 8 месяцев назад

For some reason it's ENT in the regular version of the game and TMP in the UU mod version for PC. I think it fits much better in the TMP era though.

@SGUDistantHope 8 месяцев назад

Really wow yes we forgot? lol wow, well..it's clearly NOT a NX era design, and clearly a TMP so...poor for the game for wrongly assigning a ship so radically. Irrespective to the game, this is a TMP era design lol.

@mattmon6118 8 месяцев назад

@@SGUDistantHope Oh, i agree. The ENT era of Legacy is a bit of a mess because there’s also the Yorktown Class in the ENT era as well as the Daedalus Class which have more clearly TOS elements. And for reasons they textures the Discovery class like TOS as well even though we know it’s an ENT era ship… Yeah, Legacy was a bit of a mess for ENT. (I still enjoy the game, nevertheless) As to function, It’s described as a scout. The thing is smaller than the NX class and faster two. Can’t take fire worth a damn

@wackyboy4949 8 месяцев назад

I'm going to take on the challenge of making an MSD for this. Sure it'll be a hell of a challenge, but I'm up for it

@Motoskichimo1974 8 месяцев назад

I hope they do the akila class. I love that ship. but alot people might find it cursed for a federation ship.

@Fuaris 8 месяцев назад

i can see this being a fast little hit and run scout with some mods. definately needs better window scaling but overall good design

@antonioperez5705 8 месяцев назад

Hi my name is Antonio Perez the starship looks like the Nx 01 experience as well sincerely yours truly antonio perez

@PhilDrury 8 месяцев назад

Ah yes, Legacy. I found my dvd of that game a couple of days ago while sorting through a few boxes. Or rather my foot did 😔

@DanBen07 8 месяцев назад

Why are you referring to a game disc as a DVD?

@balrighty3523 8 месяцев назад

15:57 That's what I was thinking, that this is the movie era version of the Archer. And in that light, I think some of the scale issues drop away. Don't think of it as needing the full amenities of a starship, think of it as a runabout-plus. Something that can very briefly emulate the functionality of a full ship, but is always meant to be attached to a larger support structure (probably not too many movie era ships, but maybe Striders are always attached to stations or planetside bases).

@DanBen07 8 месяцев назад

You can get this ship in the Captain Archer levels. Its a 22nd century ship with pulse phase cannons, Photonic torpedo launcher, and polarized hull plating.

@S1nwar 8 месяцев назад

quiet elegant

@OllamhDrab 8 месяцев назад

I like it, though it seems less likely to be a science ship unless very specialized. Maybe a diplomatic courier or escort. (If the ball turrets retract, it could look less belligerent, but there's a lot of em. And torpedoes. In case of trouble. It could ferry like one ambassador and staff, and maye one guest and their shuttles, small numbers. Thus free up some bigger ships.

@ozziemederos 8 месяцев назад

Got a new starship

@AgeCobra 8 месяцев назад

22 or 24 Century Voyager and the shuttles land outside the bay as well as e emenr landings.Does it land ?

@Kaiber_Phoenix 8 месяцев назад

Id love for a sequel for Star Trek legacy or heck a remake/remaster as it was such a good fun game .

@paulrasmussen8953 8 месяцев назад

Strider i see more as a scout ship. A combo of a hermes and defaint. Very starbase reliant

@DanBen07 8 месяцев назад

Yeah it's listed online as a scout ship.

@garypalmer997 8 месяцев назад

It's a pickup truck lol

@onetruekeeper 8 месяцев назад

Bring back the circular hull design, enough with the shovel head...LOL. Space is a vacuum and there is no need for streamlining.

@stevenmcgrath5114 8 месяцев назад

GW needs to send demo kits to the content creators at least a month before the release date. Simple.

@LynnLeFey1 8 месяцев назад

I've searched the internet. Where did you get the top and bottom view of the ship showing at 12:40 ?

@Orphoid 5 месяцев назад

I love it! ❤️

@CaptainForsyth 4 месяца назад

it's weird that the game put this in the NX era, I wonder if that was an error or something.

@angellight495 8 месяцев назад

This ship definitely has a TMP look but in the original game it was an ENT era ship which made no sense.

@adamlytle2615 8 месяцев назад

Having the Connie/Miranda aesthetics mixed with the Oberth nacelles rubs me the wrong way. And even at that I'd at least orient the nacelles like on the Oberth. And yeah, it seems like they tried to fit just too much onto a very small design. Those inset "doors" beneath the impulse engines seem too small to be shuttlebay doors. If you filled in that channel you could fit a reasonably sized roll-up door on the aft end of the ship.

@ericmartin3521 8 месяцев назад

Saucer reminds me of BSG a bit

@emiliogreenwood8190 8 месяцев назад

Would it be a private ship for someone who's rich enough to own one

@duncansanderson6128 6 месяцев назад

Is it a tug ship or a transport ship

@captnrobvious47 8 месяцев назад

This ship was so weird, cuz in the game it was sorted into ENT not TMP. So confusing. 😵‍💫

@paulrasmussen8953 8 месяцев назад

Well the game was a rush job henece why many say UUM is a required addition

@Sterling-Cobra 8 месяцев назад

except the design is clearly based on the texas class.

@power543 8 месяцев назад

this was designed 16 years ago :)

@ma-haelli-ham3546 8 месяцев назад

Mine sweeper?

@michaelhband 8 месяцев назад

👍👍👍❤❤❤

@thexsoar 8 месяцев назад

how is this not called a runabout?

@SnowmanTF2 8 месяцев назад

It is still massively larger than federation runabouts, even real life runabouts typically only would expect 4-8 people on board. Probably more the equivalent of todays offshore patrol boats, if not focused on research or engendering like discussed.

@thexsoar 8 месяцев назад

Also were it not for the warp core passing through the middle of the shuttle bay I'd say it's pretty nice.@@SnowmanTF2