This Pace Picanté sauce is made right here in San Antonio...your Ship was made in New York City... NEW YORK CITY!? 😱😡 (Okay...i know it makes no sense, because Yorktown is not NYC, but everytime I hear the word "York" it is the only TV commercial meme my mind goes to)
I have such a soft spot for this ship. I loved having this as my ship when I'd do ENT Era battles in ST Legacy, those fights were so close, and the Yorktown class was a tank of a vessel!
This is the updated model for the Yorktown from the Ultimate Universe mod. The original Yorktown class had a very TOS look, and it was bigger than the Constitution class. An Xbox 360 Achievement was to take an Enterprise Era ship to complete a Next Gen mission. The Yorktown class was the one to use.
You just reminded me of something. The main hero ship in every ERA of Star Trek is the U.S.S Enterprise. Obviously named after the famous U.S.S Enterprise (cv-6) of ww2 and which every major class of carrier has had one ship named after her ever since. Much of Star Fleet is structured along U.S navy lines. However, to my knowledge, there is not one single dedicated carrier in all of Star Trek. Sure, there are battleships and even some cruisers that have fighter bays, but not one ship in the fleet where their sole duty is to carry, arm/repair, and direct fighter/bomber support to the rest of the fleet. I personally believe that fighters and strike craft would be a huge asset to Star Fleet. Just taking the Romulan war as an example, we currently have the capability to intercept long-range missles with missles launched from fighters. We have had this capability since the 60s. This alone would have severely lessened the threat if not nullified it completely. Making ships like the York town class battleship redundant. You don't need a battleship capable of withstanding punishment from long-range missles if those missles never reach their target in the first place.
It's because nearly everyone has beam based weapons, hyper accurate point defence essentially. Worse still these are weapons designed to hit capital ships, fighters aren't going to have the sheilds/defences to survive hits from them. Essentially it's suicide using fighters, drones would be an option but then you run the risk of them been hacked. We see fighters used twice in ST canon by major powers. 1st is the federation attack fighters used during the battle against the combined cardassian/dominion fleet, while they pack a punch they suffer near 100% casulties in the few seconds of their attack, the federation doesn't like avoidable casulties (shuttles and runabouts are not fighters, they have warp reactors allowing their shields to take more hits, the warp reactor is the "expensive" part of any ship). The 2nd time is the fighters aboard the Reman warbird Scimitar, they are smaller and equipped with cloaking tech but are very much disposable suicide craft, designed to use swarm tactics and take mass casulties. The remans were seen as disposable shock troops by the Romulans afterall. Also against the Dominion they are more viable as most Jem'Hadar ships have all their firepower based in a frontal cone leaving their sides and rear exposed to small strike craft.
@cgi2002 If that were the case, then ships like the York town class would still be redundant. If every ship is packing hyper accurate, rapid fire point defense, then the tactic of missle/torpedo barrage would be next to useless unless you could guarantee that you out number the enemy fleet nearly 2:1 and out numbered the amount of point defense lasers with your own missle/torpedo tube's at least 4:1. At no point in ST do we see this. The closest we get are federation phaser cannons acting like modern CIWS. (And doing a poor job at it.) Phaser banks, however, are single target, slow to track, slow to fire, but highly effective anti-ship weapons acting more like the main guns of a battleship. We see how easily federation, klingon, and romulan ships get overwhelmed and swarmed by the dominion ships. If they had these point defense that you claim, then that would not be the case. Or at least not so easily.
@@Duskraven67 we actually do see it, admittedly in the reboot abrams movies. Both the USS Kelvin and the Enterprise use their phasers to intercept the mining drone missiles launched by the Nerada at them. Prior to this I don't think it was even thought of by the effects crews as a possibility (real world CIWS wasn't widely known of pre-2000, and now its expected). As for why it's not done with most races later on targetting torpedoes, I'd be hard pressed to say why (again likely no real world effects department thought to do it). I know klingon and romulan torpedoes (not missiles) are basically just guided plasma blasts, not physical torpedoes so shooting them is unlikely to have an effect but that's just a quick fan theory. Also torpedoes and missiles are often shown to be mostly useless against shielded ships (hitting the sheilds seems to be of limited effect compared to beams). It's not until sheilds are KO'd we usually see them have any effect, which also means beam weapons are at that point free to target weapons hard points, which would naturally mean less effective defence. Consider too by that same logic, the reason romulan missiles were so effective in the NX era is starfleet had no sheilds just charged hull armour, the yorktown was one of the 1st classes to get them which is what made it useful. Also again this is early ST, beam weapons were far weaker, much slower firing and didn't have such precise targetting compared to later eras, fighters might actually have been viable then especially if you could sheild them. But by the time you reach TOS and TNG era's those weapons are dozens of times more powerful, far more accurate, longer range and capable of rapid fire. It's like comparing a ww2 era pompom to a modern phylanx turret. Both can kill you but one of them is thousands of times more likely to do it, hence why we don't do close in staffing attacks on targets protected by CIWS and modern military tactics for overcoming them do include as one of the only really viable strategies, swarmed missile attacks. Also for the sake of it, consider this. You make a carrier, it carries say 50 fighters (not shuttles, no warp cores). Now each fighters main weapon has to be missiles or torpedoes, as their power core for a beam weapon is too small for it to be comparable to a larger ships beams. It's beams might be of some effect but not alot, and using them risks the fighter been destroyed as it can't outrange a larger ship. As for their missiles and torpedoes they are effective. Now take the same carrier, replace it's fighters with missile/torpedo launchers, use half the fighter storage space for munitions and the other half for a larger reactor, sheilds and phasers. You now have a missile cruiser, lower crew requirements, less likely to suffer casulties, and is arguably just as if not more effective in combat. Carriers in the real world replaced battleships because they enabled range to be king, missile cruisers have done the same thing these days, they stand side by side with carriers, range is still king, but they can do 90% of the work for 10% of the cost. In ST the carrier doesn't get its real world defence of range tho, it can't outrange an enemy and still fight unless it's fighters are warp capable. Now a cloaked carrier is another thing entirely, especially if it could create and control replaceable drones, that might be a real option.
Having the nacelle pylons directly attached to where the saucer connects to the secondary is a neat detail. Almost makes it look like angel wings. (And I bet that area was insanely reinforced to protect everything it was connected to!)
The starships of the Earth/Romulan War (2156-2160) were equipped with lasers not phasers. Phasers didn't become standard ship board weapons until 2233. Photon torpedoes were also developed in 2233 as well.
A. Phase Canons are not Phasers, as shown in Enterprise. Could be laser based, it was never properly explained, but it still technically fits. B. Phototonic Torpedoes were standard issue by the Romulan war also, having been field tested during the XIndi mission. Photon Torpedos also existed during this era, but were only used (as far as we know) by Klingons. My bigger question is where the shielding came from
I remember when I played ST:Legacy when it came out an genuinely believing the Yorktown was a canon design; it fits into the NX-Refit period before TOS so perfectly. I know technically it's not official canon, but in my Head Canon, the Yorktown was a 'real' class in Starfleet.
It still doesn’t look particularly battle focused, it reminds me of the “Enterprise” Enterprise, though. Arguably the Defiant was really the only Federation ship that looked like a battleship to me, but I DO really like that they took away the glaring weakness of the nacelle stalks.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 STO did really good job with that. Nerds who measure visuals, from what I recall do confirm those numbers (estimations based on height of decks and size of hangar of Crossfield, give exact same number). Generally Disco ships fit exact scale of Yorktown derivatives (with exception of Nimitz and Engle what have size of Cheyenne and Hoover what is basically saucer of Proxima). It is not like Kelvin where numbers are obviously wrong. Old STO scale based on Koyabasi Maru what has known TMP model, was clearly superior to current nonsense. Especially as it fit estimated size of Bonaventure class, of which they should be derivatives. Plus Einstein class aka Kelvin also fit exactly size of Yorktown saucer. But nop! Sorry, I fall in digression. Some decisions of CBS are weird.
Long range Romulan plasma torpedoes? I'd like to hear a source for that, because that runs contradictory to what we see in "Balance of Terror." I always understood plasma torpedoes to have a relatively short maximum range before fizzling out.
I would install 2 deflector dishes one in front of the saucer and the other in front of the stardrive section, why do they keep on putting deflector dishes behind the saucer section it is like saying please kill me.
I've actually seen new yorktown inside Gino funny how they take the names of the famous carriers of world war two internet into a space show that everybody loved. Enterprise Yorktown Lexington Wasp
The Federation didn't build battleship or dreadnaughts the Federation considered them a offensive ships not defensive> The Federation is not a militaristic organization I cant believe I am saying this ,but there's a whole movie about this topic Star Trek Into Darkness!
What a shame no one has thought to modify something like Eternal Starlight using UFP/Klingon/Romulan/Dominion ship assets.... I swear, if I knew the first damn thing about programming and/or computer graph design, I’d be all over that. So many titles in VR which would KILL with a StarTrek mod/makeover. I have no idea why the license holders don’t opt to make money this way - it’s a goldmine
I would build better wepons for starfleet. Just one shuttle with good frontal shields, fi,led up with antimatter and then I would warp that bastard into a capital ship. Its the equivalent of a modern day cruise missile instead of thiese puny torpedoes where you need dozends of them to even dent the shields ...
Be careful with this title, as this is United Earth Starfleet, NOT Federation Starfleet, so Defiant is STILL United Federation of Planets first pure warship
So can Starfleet be more original and build a totally different design of starship ! How about something totally out of the box how about a design that is not only aerodynamic but hydrodynamic so that the vessel can land in water or a liquid of some type ! Remember the majority of the time these things are traveling through outer space where there is no atmosphere or gravity therefore the overall design well it doesn't really matter you can build a ship that looks like the Chrysler building and theoretically it would work . Until you wanted to try to land it in water or land ! I'm not ashamed to admit it but my manner of thinking is influenced by a Japanese TV movie that was shown on mystery science theater 3000 called 'mighty Jack' !
Sorry, but I'm sick and tired of hack, talentless writers continually stepping on the Canon of TOS. In Balance of Terror, Spock specifically says that 23rd century designs of the Feds and Roms would be unrecognizable from the Romulan War. So what do the talentless hacks give us? Fed ships of the "Romulan War" that look little different from the TOS Enterprise. Paramount SUCKS!
I can't stand anything _Enterprise._ The whole show and everything related to it belongs in a dumpster. Frankly, I'm glad it was canceled. 4 seasons too late.
