wow... great gotcha from the musk fans .... 'the thumbnail used to say 'debris field guaranteed'....yeah... its also said 'starship 4'.... youtube streams default to the old thumbnail.... in this case the one from starship 4! That bein said... maybe I should put it back.... after all it did end in a debris field! None of it changes the fact the nearest a starship has gone is the indian ocean.
@@Thunderf00t what's wrong with you man? Are you really so dumb? They recovered the booster and the starship splashed down in the ocean, that was the plan. What kind of idiot can argue about this? Don't you understand this is an amazing feat and has nothing to do with the idiocy of Musk?
@@erickdavid2412i distinctly remembered finding his channel and binge watching many of his videos until sunrise once. And then SpaceX became highly successful, and that’s when his downfall began…
@@archierush868 His Ego forced him to continually double down on the Elon hating. Couldn't just admit he was wrong even after SpaceX successfully re-flew a booster 20 times.
@@bobwillneverdie its is as though TF just spends all his time complaining about illegal immigrants committing crimes and dodging taxes so they can get rich on the backs of the American people.
@@KaffeeSpotThis is the reason his academic career floundered. He doesn’t have the humility to change his position when confronted with new data. It would literally take one video of him saying, “I was wrong about Elon, I’m still skeptical of him, but I got carried away shitting on him to boost engagement.”
@@triviszla1536 I would be hesitant to place it among the greatest engineering achievements ever, unless the list is rather long.. But I am really curious as to when, according to you, NASA did this?
@@triviszla1536NASA has never caught the first stage of any rocket before. The only other company that did actually catch it was RocketLab with its Electron rocket, a tiny rocket that can only get a few hundred kilograms to LEO, and they caught it with a helicopter while it was under a parachute, and even that was deemed too risky for the pilot to bring back so they ditched it for fishing it out of the ocean. NASA has never caught a booster, what are you talking about?
He was right, though. All SpaceX did was demonstrate first stage relanding with a slightly bigger rocket. They still have to -actually be able to get a payload to orbit -create a Starship that doesn’t half-disintegrate on re-entry and cook the astronauts inside to a juicy, fall-off-the-bone barbecue rib buffet -implement a heat shield that is regenerative like the Space Shuttle for faster turnaround time on the tankers -create a version of this that is human-rated for HLS -demonstrate the propellant transfer process in low earth orbit -get the
@@sheepuff5999 1. Not the purpose of these test flights 2. Starship stayed together and landed successfully in the Indian ocean with no burn throughs 3. PLEASE look up what the space shuttles heat shield looked like after a return from orbit. It took EXTENSIVE repairs to get it back into a flight worthy condition 4. They are quite literally working on HLS as I type this. Nasa already has training hardware at the Johnson space center 5. They did a successful propellant transfer in flight 3 6. Less than a day turn around is several years down the line, be for real
@@sheepuff5999 You act like this is nothing special. They've done stuff that no one has ever done before. The downplay here of catching a rocket bigger than Saturn 5 with a pair of arms on a tower after it almost reached space is ridiculous. Of course, I didn't believe Musks timeline for a second because it's absolutely unrealistic. But this is a major achievement. The Elon haters are just as insufferable as the Elon fanboys.
Literally blinded by hate is no way to go through life. Even Sarkeesian gets a W now and then. This is just sad. Zero critical thinking when hate is involved.
@@xyzmediaandentertainment8313 When a simple rocket enthusiast like Astro Kiwi destroys Thunderfoot in a twitter argument over NASA and SpaceX re-useability, you know the scientist is doing something wrong. The fight is literally an engineering perspective vs a scientist perspective. You should look up the definition of "title of authority" argument fallacy.
I came here only for the cope. "I really don't care that much about details on these things... BUT..." Proceeds to comment on EVERYTHING he sees, pretending to be an expert. "OMG, the LOX level is 10% lower than methane" (not even close to being 10%), not knowing about the concept of dynamic O/F propellant utilization to optimize performance, doesn't know about the concept of chilling the engines before ignition, I could go on and on. 20:40 "Oh, those are flames". Even my deceased grandma would not call white engine chill venting as flames. I could go on and on and on. This cope stream is chef's kiss.
I watch all Thunderf00t videos, and I’m no Musk fan at all. But there does come a point where you have to say ‘Well done space X that was amazing.’ It’s a shame Phil can’t say it when Musk is involved.
He says something positive right after landing... but let's be honest Falcon Heavy lands both boosters and puts 30 tons into orbit the Falcon 9 has landed over 200 times why should you freak out about the Starship's booster now? Yes it's bigger but it's not about size but how much you can actually put into orbit and at what price.
@@LordCreo nevertheless NASA money lands, sure partially, in pockets of far-right (read "nazi") bloggers. Put Mr.X into the middle of this chain. Cross funding of scams as FSD and X is one more story
@@Flamingox Musk is only involved in name. He has nothing to do with developing starship. If he was involved with design, it wouldn't have made it off the launchpad yet.
You can tell who the idiots are in the forum. They're the ones who are so wound-up about the 1st stage getting caught on the tower that they completely forget about the 2nd stage, which impacted the ocean and exploded in a fireball. "We would've killed the astronauts but the test is a total success!!!!!1!!!11!!!!!!"
@@sharpvidtube And Scott Manley outs himself this morning as an unabashed Elon fan-tard. I wonder if that was his idea or Elon is paying him for the positive PR from a "legitimate scientist".
22:13 "Yeah that...works" I'm not a great fan of Musk when it comes to anything outside of SpaceX. But any ordinary person would be quite amazed at SpaceX pulling off the booster catch attempt first try. Thunderf00t here holds so much sneering resentment, you can see his disappointment at things not having gone badly. He's got nothing to crow or laugh about today, and has to do a giant cope session post stream analysing the schedules. If you're ever in a situation in life where you're sounding like Thunderf00t here, take a step back and think: Is my spite needlessly petty and self destructive? Am I taking things too far? Thunderf00t doesn't have the self awareness to make this assessment. I hope the person reading this does.
Yeah right? Musk is a dangerous idiot but spacex is not just musk. It really seems to be his only functional company after all. I hate that the thunderfoot community disregards any criticism as musk fanboydom.
Problem here is, he doesn't know shit about rockets and comments too much. This is just constant "Oh, that is not ok!" and "Ok, maybe it is, I don't care". "It is leaning to much! it is too red! Too little oxygen! Something is puffing there! Fuel is leaking! Engines are on fire ... ". And this is stuff that he could know, it is not secret what is going on. But he doesn't care about "details". Maybe AI can point out all this instances.
@@pingusmcdingus5124 Musk wants people working 80 hours a week to achieve his goals, THAT is exhausting. Imagine what the world will be like as he gains more control, thanks to the people who shamelessly fangirl girl for him. Neverending corporate servitude.
@@PistonAvatarGuy Don't worry, Musk won't have you working 80 hours a week for his goals. You'd never reach the interview stage at any of his companies, let alone get the job. You're free!
(as Starship lands on mars with a full crew of people) "Well, you'd have to assume they're all feeling a bit nauseous onboard, it looked like a rough flight; I'd assume a Boeing airplane could've gotten them their quicker and safer!"
Did you imagine that would sound as hilarious to everyone else as it did when you repeated it over & over in your head before finally typing it out??! Yeee-ouch!! 😬😬😬😬 🫣🫣🫣🫣
I have never seen anyone so determined to see someone else fail Never seen anyone get their facts so wrong Never seen anyone so look forward to failure Never seen anyone tying so hard to stay relevant... Huh OK...
I came to see a cool rocket landing... I got called a 'bootlicker' and a 'Muskrat' for being impressed with what Elon just achieved... Thunderfoot fans are _not_ very nice people 😢
@@cmdrreggit Dude the majority of Thunderf00t fans are no longer Thunderf00t fans. The guy was great back when he was attacking quack science GoFundMe's and religious charlatans. Then he signed on to his own dogmatic woke religion and began to see the world through a lens of hatred of people more successful than he was.
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Imagine Thunderf00t's reaction if he had watched Apollo 1 catch fire on the launch pad, killing 3 people.
@@mandi8345 dumberf00t is still. You act like those details make any difference. NASA: 17 dead astronauts SpaceX: Zero
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@@mandi8345 Sorry, they died in a horrible fire as opposed to being blown to pieces by an explosion. My bad on the details. I'm glad you're really understanding the point.
Amid a torrent of negative comments I, for one, would like to extend a sincere compliment to Thunderf00t as it seems as though his gender reassignment is coming along nicely. You go girl!
I also have reasons to hate elon he's not that bright of a person and he's had lots of failed things in the past so him having more fails than any other rich guy makes it really hard to believe he can be successful sometimes
@@billyhatcher643 your take on Elon is completely idiotic respectfully. If you think a man with literal genius level iq is dumb then what’s that make you?
@@billyhatcher643 This comment tells me you have never achieved anything in life, and will never achieve anything. Failure is inevitable, you learn from it to succeed. Anyone who has built anything has a string of failures behind them.
I literally can't believe many years ago, I watched a Thundercheeks video and thought this guy knows what he's talking about. Livestreams show wuite clearly for all to see, that he does not. I still support him getting his hair did, and dressing up for his streams, but let's all be honest...it's just for the pure comedy of it.
@markoliimatainen2565 You are hilarious, and also don't appear to know what you're talking about either. First, I'm not a fan of Elon or even close to one. Coping about what? That doesn't even make sense in this context, you're literally just copying words you've seen other people post. This video clearly shows he's not familiar with the engineering of this particular rocket that he devoted a whole stream to...which is just odd. It's been around for years, so he's had plenty of time to educate himself...but has chosen to look a dunce. I guess there's enough people like yourself that are even less capable, that he's just devolved into grifting. At one time, he made well thought out interesting videos.
@@NapoleonGelignite The part that gave away your cope was when you called the arms thin. Its cute how all you musk huffers cant see the cope yall are spitting. its in every derisive comment, every attempted insult, every backlash like someone insulted your very being. What freaking children you all are.....
@@NapoleonGelignite You do realize it is the "heaviest Rocket to Fly" when the Fuel is IN IT and the top section attached? Without the top, and fuel , it isn't even close to that. It IS however an achievement to get the Nav computer and thrust control synchronized enough to pinpoint the spot where it lands. I can call that a success.
@@b00nz0r Funny how 4 launches ago all the comments from people like you where that they would never do what they just did today. Now we're moving on to moon bases!
@@tastydeaths The rocket was meant to blow up they never planned on landing it on anything other then in the ocean. The rocket is not on fire its either venting out the methane or its leaking, which is a minor issue if its the case.
At this point, I think Thunderf00t's value proposition has transitioned into mock-watching. That's the way he makes money now and he knows it. That's why he has to keep up with the denialism. If he actually turned around and admitted this was awesome, he'd lose his flerf fanbase as well as everyone who comes here to mock him.
I don't know, he did say at the Starship 4 good job for I forgot what exactly. He's not 100% bitter. In this case it's all because the booster catch is totally meaningless to him. It's beyond optional for Artemis 3, which will be delayed by a lot. So seeing this already set the tone of "oh, we're improving irrelevant things" hence his total lack of enthusiasm. Well, to be fair, it's not totally meaningless, as maybe they can reuse some of those engines which would make the huge spending on these tests a bit less huge. Though it would help just as much, if not more, if they focused on the important parts, so they need less tests in the first place... that way they could've spent the same or less while delivering earlier (still a lot over the deadline, buy maybe just by 5-6 years instead of 7-10) ...
@@Winnetou17 yeah, even though they caught the booster, it's just a party trick, which will never bring any economical benefit whatsoever. Just like landing the falcon 9 would never actually be viable/reusable. Them reflying the same F9 boosters for the 20+th time now, is still just a party trick, they're not saving a dime by doing it. They really should revert to doing stuff the traditional way, like NASA, which clearly, looking at the impecable SLS system, really shows that is the optimal path for making space access more affordable/accessible. Will you call Gwynne and talk some sense into her, or shall i? This has to end. now.
He’s still a necessary antidote to all the fangirl channels IMO. I mean if you look at the scoreboard he still comes out way WAY ahead. He’s human, obviously he is rooting against this project, but he does still have a point. It’s all very gee whiz but if you look at, say, the lunar mission architecture with this launch system it just doesn’t make any sense. At all. And does anybody seriously believe these ships are getting us to Mars, en masse? 😂
Imagine all of the "told you so's" if it had failed. I was somewhat skeptical that they could catch it on the first attempt, but was hoping that they would succeed. Will be interesting to see how "re-usable" that booster is after one use.
@@zm5668 Who is "he"? Gullible and easily impressed? No, its objectively impressive. Anyone with any knowledge sbout this stuff, besides TF, is impressed.
first try? Hasn't SpaceX been catching rockets for quite some time now? I mean every time a Starship explodes, which is every time now people say well they have launched X amount of falcon9's but When they catch a super heavy booster it's not well they have caught X amount of other boosters. If major failings can be so easily brushed aside, why not meager successes?
I’m a musk skeptic and I still don’t think Starship will achieve its design goals as claimed prior to 2023. But this launch 5 today is spectacular, SpaceX obviously has real engineers doing real work.
@@suopo32 Are you a fan of spaceflight or not? Is there anyone else who has made so much progress in achieving spaceflight? The US spends 10x the budget on Musk vs. F35 Raptors per year. Would you prefer to have a bigger army, or spaceflight?
So SpaceX definitely have real engineers doing real work....but the problem is that the thing they're working on is misguided and impractical in conception. And it's great that they managed to achieve the thing they tried to achieve here...but in a way it would almost be better if they didn't, because this success doesn't change the fact that the plan is to launch 10-15 Starships per one Starship launched to moon or Mars, which is a *ridiculous* way to do this. Like, imagine they are 9 fueling launches in and something goes wrong and number 10 wrecks their facilities. That could screw the entire mission. Which means they will need some sort of redundancies in place to mitigate...but that isn't even on the radar. So meeting these sorts of intermediate goals is kind of like a terminal cancer patient catching and then recovering from the flu -- it's good that they get a little more time, but it doesn't change the fact that they're still in for a long, painful demise over the next months/years.
Thunderf00t: "36000 seconds in an hour". 30:00 .. and the amount of nonsense he made up during this stream, incredible. "This doesn't look like right", like he has any clue what he is talking about. Also estimating SpaceX revenue at 1.5 billion. They make more than double that from Starlink alone! Yes, that is the internet service that you said was not going to be a commercial success. And not all launches are 50 million, many government missions are more expensive, including for US military and NASA, as well as Falcon Heavy launches. Total 2023 revenue was around 9 billion, and for 2024 they are going for 15.
Musk claimed there would be a base on Mars and manned missions by now. And they are still testing basic functionality. So although they are making progress, it's still a huge failure compared to what investors were promised.
Yes, Elon miscalculated how easy it would be to do one of the most difficult things mankind has ever attempted in the history of our species. That isn't the own you think it is. He's also being slowed down by bureaucracies. It takes longer to do the paperwork than build a 250+ foot tall rocket.
I have never liked any of Elon Musk's businesses, as a automotive technician I could go on and on about the unnecessary failures of tesla, the failures of hyperloop and similar endeavors are readily apparent, the exaggeration of his robots, etc. Most of these failures are homogenous within their respective industry, not just his brands. though all of his exaggeration or lies aside, how is spaceX not directly superior in every way to any other similar program, private or not? I feel that the vast majority of the content you create anymore is completely captured by bitterness. I wish you the best and have enjoyed countless hours of your content, I wish you would get back to useful things, like solar roadway type scams
that's the best comment ever posted in the year 2024 for the thunderfoot channel. Hate to see a great scientist fail for some 0 IQ sentiments clouding his judgement !
gotta give it to him, seeing how much his previous stream got clowned on it takes balls to do the exact same thing again lmao, brother has no shame in asking brilliant questions such as "why does the rocket have gas coming out of it" and "what is this wierd rocket shaped object im looking at right now"
Why is it that Elon Musk’s fans come across as overconfident or misinformed? Maybe it’s because they’ve been swept up in the narrative of disruption and innovation. Perhaps they don’t always critically engage with the actual evidence or setbacks, and instead, they prefer to stay in echo chambers where optimistic promises are seen as proof of progress. They often ignore the failures because doing so challenges their belief in Musk’s genius. Many are either too young or too emotionally invested in the fantasy of the future Musk is selling, which leads to blind optimism and a sense of superiority that doesn’t always match reality.
Elon musk have zero understanding in science so for them science is pure magic and engineers using spells. They think that Elon musk is the strongest wizard who can conjure something out of nothing. Delusional idiots. I was one of them untill woke up and started to ask questions @@firedoom4848
@@Zydraxis How is being deranged in the same way better? Philip Mason have misled fans and misrepresented data just like Elon Musk did , only with lesser reach. The other difference is Musk managed to get rich doing it and his companies have contributed to the betterment of our world more than Thunderfoot have and ever will be.
So you mentally slow people think Elon can take max load to space? This was LITERALLY about the rockets being so shit they couldn’t even handle running. You dumb down the formula and take notes because you’ve got 20 explosions on your hand so you have GREAT data about how much you’re constantly failing. I think 2 others didn’t break up? It’s about the odds,9/10 that shit is going to be a fireball and Elon just got lucky 😂
@@zvezdanjasovic3185 you're talking about the successful detonation of starships FTS after landing on the water. Nice try tho. Explosion was inteneded.
no, he would call you a moron if you were to claim you can make a lightbulb in a week and it's because you can look up how to make a lightbulb. edison had to experiment.
@@benjiunofficialYep. He’s going to be a post-doc forever. The fundamental skill of any researcher is reassessing your position when confronted with new data. This video is very good evidence of how poorly developed that skill is for him.
I am certainly not a Musk fan, but your behavior is really childish at this point. What spaceX achieved here was absolutely impressive and was never seen before. That clip showed me, that you are just a hater, not a critic. Is it really that hard for you, to give them the credit they truly deserve?
longtime fan of TF but damn he searches for something negative to say, "the lean, the fuel level, the altitude, the dumping, the flame color, something has fallen off". Even if this is all a nonsensical way to do rocketry, I would think a man of science like TF would show a bit more awe curiosity about what is happening.
What's his PHD in? Chemistry I think. Now imagine if he took that smug superior attitude of his and scoffed at how ARM is a deadend technology and that he knows more about computer science than the average person (he doesn't'). The man is the definition of the Dunning Kruger effect
@@Lorem_ipsum_dolor_sit_amet so what's your claim to fame here? That you like someone you think is smart (but who's actually a con man), and by liking him... somehow that makes his smartness also a part of your own self worth? 😂 I'll take the guy with the actual PhD thanks
I mean... the thing is still a complete failure. Cool you caught it - it did nothing however. Like.. it can't even get things into orbit - it barely makes it empty. Remember by now in NASA's career- they had sent men into space, landed them back safely, and gone to the moon (although not landed it on it yet) - Starship is no where near 'moon' distances, let alone "Mars". And that was promised to happen over 2 years ago.
imagine how frustrated this commenter must have been to not realize he spelled thunders screen name wrong.....Gee, I wonder if they are equally as careless in other matters of research and integrity....
I used to really like this channel but Thunderf00t has gotten so obsessive about badmouthing SpaceX, Tesla, etc. that it just hurts to watch him anymore (fellow physicist here). What's with all the hate towards "Elon fanboys? As if it was Elon personally who built the rockets, developed all the concepts, wrote the control software, made financial decisions. What about the hundreds and hundreds of engineers who accomplished unprecendented achievements in these companies? These are objectively huge technological advancements, whether you like Elon or not. This condescending blabbering is just low and shortsighted. Just for the fun of it, imagine Thunderf00t doing a video on Galvani's experiment on frog legs in 1771. How useless !!
It's envy. He thinks it is unjust that one man who he considers inferior gets so much praise and can make such a difference when he sees himself fading into irrelevance despite the potential he sees in himself. Some people are incapable of appreciating progress, simply because they consider themselves as the person who was meant to make that difference. And because they can't make the difference, all they can do is hope that nobody else will. And if someone else does, then they start to hate that person. Because envy, after all, is a form of hate. And it consumes ones rational faculties, and clouds ones judgment. It's pitiful, really.
@@fubar12345 When someone over hypes, under delivers and is never able to stick to their projected timetable in ALL of his ventures, you should expect people to get tired of it.
I stopped watching him when he said “Look at all the SpaceX employees cheering like a bunch of idiots at their rocket exploding”… He’s a cynically sick man who drools for failure. Truly sad.
SpaceX has over 13.000 employees. Imagine ridiculing the incredible work of 13.000 people because of one person. That’s like throwing out the entire field of astronomy, because you don’t like Neil DeGrasse Tyson
@@zetnakatel He doesn't know what he's talking about and can't admit he's wrong.
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I cannot imagine having a PhD and rooting against iterative progress via experimentation. If there was a land of cope and seethe, Thunderf00t would be its king.
Anyone who has earned a PhD has a basic understanding of economics, including cost/benefit and opportunity costs, as well as the importance of meeting deadlines. They typically don't put the "iterative progress via experimentation" as having a value that's absolute and to be put above all other considerations.
@@513morris I have a PhD and I absolutely see the value of iterative design with intermittent testing - when appropriate, as it _is_ in this circumstance. But, even if I didn't understand that value a priori, the proof, as they say is in the pudding: Falcon 9/Heavy and, yes, the incredible and absolutely _unprecedented_ progress and performance of Starship are truly potent validation of SpaceX's approach. It demonstrably works.
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@@513morris Thunderf00t's sour grapes aren't over costs or deadlines, LMAO. They're over the fact he despises Elon Musk and the Space X team. He's shitting on the Space X employees cheering catching the booster for the first time at 22:15: "Oh and finally, they're actually cheering that something's not blowing up. Good on you boys (sarcastically)." That's not got ANYTHING to do with deadlines/costs and 99% to do with envy. Thunderf00t's notoriety comes from trashing a young Christian minister on RU-vid two decades ago. There's nothing wrong with being happy for other people's achievements, especially given these ones are pushing a scientific field forward.
There is a reason why gymnasts use sponge pits when practicing doing somersaults, before they can learn to stick the landings. To say there was “no progress” with starship was incorrect. They did not expect to recover any of starship with this test but they were testing telemetry and material abrasion. Telemetry was pretty spot on and there was a definite improvement on abrasion. If you recall test 4, half the wing had disappeared. At least they have shown they can recover half of it. And as it is now can reliably lift 100 tonnes to LEO or about 200 satellites in one go. Any defence body in the world would love to do that. The other thing you’ve forgotten to mention is they are profitable even while experimenting with starship so they can do this all day, everyday until they succeed and they will, trust me. I know it’s hard for you to swallow your pride but if you do, it shows your the bigger man.
They aren't putting payloads because these are still expected to be destructive tests. If you listen to SpaceX's stream, they didn't even expect to land the booster. That was a bonus. They are doing rapid iterative design with expected failures. Tf00t doesn't know this because he is being deliberately ignorant. They will put payloads on it once they stop doing test flights. Once they get there they could put a JWST on this without folding it up. The value for humanity is incalculable if they succeed, and it doesn't even have to be reusable to be profitable. But so far they caught the booster on their first try, so it looks good to go very soon. But they absolutely expect to fail at this stage so they can quickly get data and iterate on their designs. Everyone who isn't ignorant knows this. Just watch anyone who isn't an explicit Elon hater, and this was known to be the plan from the start with Starship.
I’ve grown to really dislike musk but this is an incredible achievement by so many people, to dismiss this in the way you did is just a bit sad. Yes the plans are late but this is some thunderbirds shit and the fact you can’t appreciate it is kinda sad
“Changed the world” hahahahahahha for how much they have spent yeah they could have changed the world. Right now they have just been wasting money. To achieve what again? I’ll give you a hint, it won’t do anything for this world.
I'll remember you as the guy who sat at home mocking successful scientist while defending a rich fraudster from any criticism. What tf did Elon achieve again? - Oh yea, the achievement is coming in 2 years. (coming in 2 years since 2012)
@@anoying At this point if you think celebrating the success of launches like this means you automatically love Elon Musk, you have brain worms. There is no other explanation.
If they ever get the starship to be capable of lifting 100 tonnes to orbit it would be cool to see an absolutely massive JWT type thing put up. Basically a group based receiver but in space. Image the resolution achievable from a 100m diameter receiver or something like that.
i like the idea of LCST (lunar crater space telescope). the crater they found has a 350 diameter. even more far flung is using superconductive pinning origami to assemble reflectors tens of km in diameter.
19:30 **Sees rocket plume at high altitude** “What the hell’s that? They dumping something?” Tell us you don’t know anything about rockets without telling us you don’t know anything about rockets.
Rockets don't lift things with methane. (as far as planned at least) And it's particular lighter flame combustion should give you clues. Tell us you don’t know anything about rockets without telling us you don’t know anything about rockets.
He's kinda always been this way. He does stuff like this every few years, he never admits he was wrong and people kinda forget about it. We're all human and we have our flaws, but academics especially have a habit of touting science as being nondogmatic and open to change while at the same time acting like this. He's definitely not alone, there's an old saying "science proceeds one funeral at a time"
That saying is like that for professors who build their entire career on a theory. Their livelihood, status and the access to refined women depend on it. Thunderf00t runs a RU-vid channel that he is not paid to.
As a scientist from the same field as his, I can confidently state that he is an absolute disgrace. Given how absolutely deranged and delusional he is, I would not trust a single crumb of his actual work. He is clearly not mentally fit to be a scientist.
I think in the "new atheist" and "atheist youtubers" era , this was already happening, i just ignored it because "we are in the correct side" and the other side were people preaching about dinosaurs walking with Jesus, water with memory, faith healing and so on. Now a decade later, i see many of this youtubers as dogmatic douches, rationality abandon them if they even have some. Thunderf00t and potholer54 are the worse examples for me, its sad.
I'm sure you hate Henry Ford's politics, but his engineering feats are incredible. Why can't you appreciate the genius for what it is? Isaac Newton did alchemy. Does that discredit his amazing achievements with Newtonian mechanics and calculus? How can you be this way?
Musk Is i no way shape or Form similar to people Like Isaac Newton. Fight me. What did musks engenieers invent that did Not exist before in a better way.
……… you want to say that when Elon just scammed you guys on that Robovan with no suspension? 😂 you know other ships haven’t gone up in flames, it’s just a 9/10 probability and you guys just got lucky today 🎉
@@b00nz0r 9/10 probability for success you mean? And robovan does have suspension, it's in the internal wheel well, and it won't need clearence because it will only drive on pre-approved roads like Waymo. I live in Phoenix AZ, you don't need clearence here and in well kept uban environments.
@@wildbillnye And who's going to pay to keep them well kept when you hate taxes? You don't know you're arguing against yourself because you haven't actually thought about your political views, you're just parroting other people which is exactly what this is. Space X has been testing this thing for 10 years and only recently has it not exploded. Elon Musk was supposed to have finished this step back then and gotten a moon base where he then goes to Mars to look for water, BUT HE'S A SCAM ARTIST IN A COUNTRY THAT'S ALMOST FINISHED!!! Our country was started by slave owners, not actual good people.
Saturn V total program cost was roughly $50 B in today's dollars. Starship's cost has been like $5 B mostly in development and infrastructure, and roughly $100 M launches. You're not understanding how ridiculously cheaper the Starship development model is if you're whining about a few ships blowing up in the process of ironing it out. Yes you could spend a fortune more and have the first ships be closer to perfect, but it would be foolishly inefficient compared to what they are doing. Now you wring engine performance up, and weight down, to maximize payload. Engines are 60% or so of the launch cost. Having your 33 engines reused even just 5 or 10 times will bring the cost of launch down significantly. This is an obviously and vastly superior model of operation, it's hilarious that anyone is comparing it to the Saturn V as if it's actually worse. You could never even think of getting the Saturn V onto a multiple launches per day schedule, even with all the extra cost.
This guy is still going on about how Elon said Hyperloop was going to do this and that - mate that was bloody years ago and from my recollection, he quickly pulled out of Hyperloop once he saw it wouldn't work on a large scale
You do realise that the same scams appear every few years because clowns like you forget. Water from air machine being the go-to for scammers. People need to be reminded not to fall for it again.
@@djtonylee yeah the guy is a complete whack job with no hope of ever creating anything successful. Can’t believe he would ever try anything like that again - oh wait. I hate to say it mate and I really sincerely mean this, but you’re one of those people that are easily brainwashed by others. Yes Elon is a prick yes Elon has done some far out crazy stuff - but Elon has also done some pretty cool stuff and he has done some bloody hilarious stuff. Spacex is literally taking us back to space - whether Elon is actually the one working on the rockets or not. Spacex is an inspiration to all of us that if we persevere we can achieve great things. Overall I give him, a 6.5 out of 10 and most importantly, don’t waste my time hating on him - what do you gain living like that?
Calling Elon Musk equivalent to Bernie Madoff reflects poorly on you. You might as well call him a Nazi while you’re at it. The reality is that Musk has actually created things. There are millions of Tesla cars on the road, Falcon 9 has flown hundreds of times, and Starlink works and is getting better. Timelines are aspirational, and if you compare Tesla's timelines to those of Ford, New Shepard, or Boeing, Tesla is still ahead. Sure, the Apollo program was next-level, no question, but if you compare anyone else in the field today, no one outshines SpaceX. You said Musk would never buy Twitter-he did. You said Tesla would go bankrupt-when was that supposed to happen? Starlink was risky, yet it's profitable now. Funny how that works. Go ahead, doubt Optimus, go ahead and doubt RoboTaxi, but the only grifter here is you. And sure, the Roadster 2 hasn’t appeared yet, but it’s a niche product, not central to Tesla’s mission. As for the Hyperloop, the issue isn’t the concept; it’s the implementation. And to be clear, Musk was trying to get other engineers involved in the Hyperloop project-it was more of an engineering challenge, not something he was heavily investing in. High-speed anything in the U.S. faces major regulatory hurdles. One reason the Boring Company makes sense is that it can bypass some of these regulatory roadblocks. The same can’t be said for above-ground projects that require extensive government approval. In short, just because you can’t think of a reason to go to Mars doesn’t mean others can’t. Musk is willing to spend everything he’s made from Tesla to get there. The money is in place, and it doesn’t require government approval. And your opinion certainly doesn’t matter.
Well, that is not a shocker, they flew 100 tons lighter than it is supposed to, ofc the booster made it back, the REAL question is if they can reuse those engines which run for 20-40 million dollar each...
@@TheEsseboythey dont cost 20million those are the RS-25s the ones you see are the RAPTOR VERSION 2.5 engines. They cost at the maxium $1-2million and at the lowest $250,000-500,000
@@TheEsseboy”of course they succeeded in doing something that no one even attempted before in history that stands to change the space launch economics because the booster was lighter” Are you people serious?
@TheEsseboy these particular engines will not fly again... they'll be test fired to destruction most likely to verify their capacity for reuse, but SpaceX has moved onto the next version engine already. Everyone looks at these early vehicles as if they are the final product for some reason and make unreasonable comparisons to Saturn V, when this combined stack is both larger AND intended for full reuseability. Saturn V was entirely throw away... a much easier thing to do. even Shuttle was only a partly reusable system, and it was crippled by politically driven design decisions - I'm amazed it worked as well as it did.
damn. only 7 minutes of this guy and i know that i know nothing about rockets. but i know 100times more then this guy😂. i feel like my IQ dropped watching these 7 minutes.
Used to respect Thunder foot, but now that he's after the sweet sweet Elon hating money, he's really lost his path. Get back to the good old content mate, this stuff looks pathetic. Can't be good for the character, if SpaceX keeps humbling you.
22:35 "So.. Wha wh wh what have we actually, th the next real deal comes like can you actually get the the upperstage, right? It's nice no- eh it's still on fire." xD Say what?
why do every time only the losers that have nothing going on in their lives have the most to say about people actually doing stuff that makes real world difference.
Why do people watch this guy? He is so negative. This is an amazing achievement for Space X and the human race. All this guy seems to love to do is complain. I’m surprised he has any subscribers let alone the amount he does have.
This was the first rocket launch I ever attended, it was the single most important and consequential thing in spaceflight I have witnessed in the five decades I've been alive. Merely by chance, I was watching next to an engineer from Rocket Lab, SpaceX's competitor, who flew halfway around the world on his own dime to also watch history happen. We discussed many things over the next couple days, including you. He immediately recognized your name and what grifting 🤡 you've become. I believe you would do well to ponder this sad fact for a little while.
