Instead of 10 best paints from each range (which isn't a bad video idea), why not create list of best colors. 5 best oranges, yellows, pinks, light browns, dark browns, etc...
@@BlommaBaumbart one problem is that we are still waiting for Ultracryl paints. They have some impressive claims and videos on RU-vid. Just depends if it lives up to the hype.
People, i can only recommend to pay the small Patreon fee for the colour swatches. They are a great helper. I had them printed out professionally and laminated, which now makes up my go-to research resource for the right paints to choose. Love him or hate him, but this guy knows his paints. Something that makes a huge difference in painting.
@@user-mc4sq3fk5d He's definitely not Ninjon, Squidmar or anyone who advertised TEMU, Raid Shitty Legends and what not. And I also highly appreciate the criticism towards GSW's politics. So "love him or hate him" was just a phrase to emphasize what I said next.
I personally would love to see more top ten vids like this. Not just top tens of paint ranges but worst paints or paints to avoid from various ranges as well. Maybe even more than paints if that's ok with you too. Great video, thanks, Stahly.
I adore their Jade color, that's become one of my favorite colors from them. Amazing coverage, super smooth with two thin coats, and amazing pigmentation.
Easily my favourite range. I always get excited when they drop more colours. I can't name just one colour as my favourite but a few that come to mind are Mahogany, Dark Jade, Dark Plum, and Royal Purple.
I just got their bright gold yesterday, glad to see it on the list lol, it’s a nice gold to highlight their rich gold. But man now I’m tempted to get the reds he had as his 2 and 3. I was thinking of getting the orange red, seems like it’d be perfect for eyes.
This is really helpful content for folks just branching out from Citadel products. In my experience lots of folks who have been in the GW ecosystem look at all the different brands out there and can feel a bit lost. A "top 10 products to try if you've only ever used citadel" video would be great, focusing on individual products rather than whole ranges.
I have the FULL range of Pro Acryl Paints excluding the latest three mini-releases and to be honest, I have come to loath them. So much so, that I have put them up for sale on Facebook Marketplace and have bought the full range of the new Game Color paints (I already have the old Model Color and Citadel). Why you ask? 1) The bottle caps suck as paint builds up on the tips which needs to be picked off all too often (yes, other droppers can be purchased but one shouldn't have to). 2) The paint quickly takes up water on the wet palette, causing it to separate, and thus rendering that 'larger' bottle volume as pointless. 3) The first layer of paint can fail to stick to the primer and has a tendency to create bizarre pools (I needed to experiment and switch primers as a result). 4) It is ultra-matte, this is a preference, but if you're not varnishing your minis like me, it doesn't blend well with other ranges. 5) Not just the white but the vast majority of colours leave a chalky finish on the mini. I have literally needed to fine sand back my Bold Pyrrole Red off my Caladius Grav Tank. I have since substituted this beautiful hue of red with GOLDEN SOFLAT Pyrrole Red (which is not chalky). 6) Because of their ultra matte and chalky like properties I find them to glaze and blend poorly. 7) The range of colours suck. Prior to the latest sub-release they had SIX, yes just SIX, colours covering yellow-orange-red (two primary and one secondary colour). So again, forcing me to mix and match their ultramatte properties with other brands. 8) One positive is that their flow from the brush is second to none, which is great for fine edge highlighting, but again this is pointless with an ultra matte that is more muted against the base layers below and typically less durable. 9) I find their metallics average. While some like the copper, brass, and dark silver are excellent, the silver and rich gold are lack lustre. I'm sticking to my Vallejo Metals and Air. 10) Their wash isn't a true wash. In fairness I love their 'black wash'. I think it's the best 'panel liner' on the market but it cannot be used if one is to drybrush over the top (a technique I like to do with necrons and metallics). It has a tendency to peel away a fine film. So great as a panel liner, extremely poor as a wash for creating gradual shades. I genuinely don't understand the hype around these paints. I find the new Valejo Game Color range to be superior in every way. I also have a few AK 3rd Gen paints and find them very nice too. I haven't tested Duncan's but would love to.
I really like this video. I like how you broke down the "why" you prefer a certain paint over another range. I also like how you compared the colour to other ranges as possible substitutes. I live in a fairly remote area of Canada and accessibility to other ranges is limited. Citadel is the dominant range by a long shot but there are vendors providing other ranges. Vallejo is a nightmare to source in Eastern Canada (aside from online), Two thin Coats is expensive to import I haven't see The Army Painter anywhere, so I like the videos that help me be more consumer smart before I make a purchase. Keep up the excellent work! I love your channel.
Sorry for the long comment: 1. Yes to more top paints per paint range. 2. One step further: I’d love to see a video or series of videos on you building your ultimate “range” from your favorites across the others. Less as recommendations and more just to hear you discuss your thoughts and how you see different paints complimenting or interacting with each other. 3. Agreed on Bold Titanium White drying a bit chalky as a pure base coat. The new Vallejo whites are good, although I still really love Kimera Kolor’s white as my favorite. The new Fanatic white isn’t too bad either. 4. I’m old and have just accepted that the original GW bottles are my favorite. The hex bottles are #1 and the standard bottle (IE the one also used by P3) a close 2nd. I know the lids routinely break, but they’re what I learned to paint with and just feel natural to me. 5. I dislike the Pro-Acryl bottle tips, and have replaced mine with the flip top lids that still function as droppers. Might be my favorite version of a dropper bottle. 6. You remain my favorite RU-vidr when it comes to paint. Ninjon I feel is about the closest who matches your detail and depth and you’re ability to separate opinion from objective details. I feel I actually learn more about paint in general whether you’re discussing a top ten list or doing a full review, rather than just how the colors compare or how to paint a specific model or achieve a specific effect. 7. What would be in the Stahly Signature Series?
@@Drezrale no, I have Nostalgia 94 paints, but I don’t trust Warcolours after they dropped the Nostalgia 88 range without warning. Fool me once. Also I’m referring to the bottles themselves. 90s paints had notoriously poor coverage (which the Nostalgia 94 range unfortunately mimics). I have plenty of the 88/P3/Foundry style paint bottles, but would love to have the Hex bottles themselves to use for my modern paints.
@@MasterShake9000 I'm not talking about hobby paints at all, iIm talking about actual good quality paints. Cheaper too but you'd have to mix those original colors which I have exact ratios for most of the gen 1s.
The copper from Pro-Acryl is the best copper paint I've found. Potentially the best metallic paint. It is the only metallic that actually looks like the metal it claims to be straight from the bottle. On the model it doesn't look like paint, it looks like copper.
I 100% agree with the Tan Flesh. It is my go to skin tone because it just does everything I want for a skin tone. My favorite thing to do is base coat, flesh wash, then do a 50-50 mix of tan flesh and warm flesh. I feel like that comes out excellent every time. Also, thanks for the tips on the blue black and dark grey blue! I have both those colors and have struggled to use them recently.
Pro Acryl is fantastic. I've been so impressed with it I have almost the entire line. Like you said, there are no duds. My favorites; Pyrrole Red, Royal Purple, the Yellow Greens (perfect orc and goblin skin), the Jades and Light Bronze. I just got their fluorescent line recently and I can't wait to try them in comparison to Golden's!
You really should add more of the classic Vallejo line paints into your reviews. They're easily one of the best paints across the color pallet and they're also the cheapest. Especially the metallics. After using the vallejo air metallics, Ill never go back to the thick shitadel metallics. At least not without a fuck load of contrast to thin them.
I love your work. So very thoughtful.. Super useful as well. I find the Proacryl Paynes Grey to be an excellent every day paint.. Terrific for highlights on all kinds of dark base paints, excellent coverage, and can be used as a variation base color itself. Paynes Grey sneaks into lots of my work. Thanks for the terrific content
The paint that started me on the Monument path was the Payne's Gray - I had been looking to replace an old VGC Sombre Grey and the new bottles didn't match, then found it was very similar to the Payne's. Love the MH stuff
Top 10 Pro Acryl 1: Paynes Grey (absolutely incredible) 2: Mahogany 3: Bold Pyrole Red 4: Heavy Titanium White (drybrushing) 5: Black Wash 6: Burnt Red 7: Jade 8: Fluorescent Yellow(that hole set is amazing) 9: Burnt Orange 10: Dark Flesh Phew that was really difficult. I’d like to put the rest of the range as honourable mentions 😂
Good work as always, would love to see a comprehensive cross brand metallic best of each 'colour' and a matching swatch just for metallic's like you did with washes/contrasts
Another great video! A very appreciative subscriber and patron supporter here but also a new beginner. Not many creators, and no influencers, create content aimed at beginners. That could be a good series aimed at a group who are usually very enthusiastic supporters. So many topics and how to tutorials to include paint ranges perhaps best for newcomers? Don’t sell out Stahly and keep the videos coming.
I love Dark Jade. It's the perfect color for using in shadows, especially for greens. And Mahogany is a great warm reddish brown. I'd still say the weakest PA colors are the yellows, especially Golden Yellow which I still don't really like to use. The thin nature of PA paints really hurts it, I think, and I wind up using Citadel's Averland Sunset instead.
Great video, love this series and Pro Acryl has been a great range some of my faves are Bold Titanium White, Bold Pyrole Red, Burnt Red, Bright Ivory, and Dark Silver. Their flesh wash is quite good, and thins great. I hope they release Sepia wash
Dark Magenta from ninjon's set is a very useful base for all kinds of things. It draws a great line to pretty disgusting pinks when missed with good old Vallejo Ice Yellow.
A nice twist on this video might be unique paints you can find in different ranges where there is no direct equivalent from other brands: having tested so many paints you must be in a unique position to name a few! Or maybe a list of paints that you find irreplaceable for painting specific materials & effects etc.
Really good to hear the ivory matches wraithbone as that’s what I spray as a base coat for hive fleet leviathan and I often need to do some manual touch ups before I do the first wash. Will need to pick some of that up in future
i had a problem with the cap of my bold titanium white and it doesnt close 100%, leading to the paint thickening up slightly. I bought another for thin applications and now I have a "heavy body" version for anything else :D
When the first paint on the list was the paint you found after years of looking that actually managed to pull off the armour you wanted on your first ever army, you know its an excellent list.
I find your experience with Bold Titanium White interesting. Perhaps I have an old bottle but I always have to thin mine down considerably, I've always found it was quite thick overall. Not experiecned the yellowing effect but I guess I need to go look at some old minis to check now 😅
Hi and apologies for the question as I am sure you have covered it before; I have just purchased 3 of your excellent hand painted swatches, Pro-Acryl, AK Gen 3 & Citadel. I want to print them at the highest quality at a minimum of A1 paper size - do you have any recommendations or printing guidelines to get the best out of the swatches please ?
As always, greatly informative! Starts strong too, I've been needing another pot of Wraithbone, as I too dislike the pots themself...but wanting a replacement!
Really appreciate this video. I've wanted to try the range for a long time but it's tough to know where I should start, and there's a lot of good recommendations here that anyone could use!
I've got maybe a dozen Pro Acryl colours, chosen somewhat at random based on what I thought looked useful. Happy to see then that I've got seven of the paints shown here. I would agree with the other comment that Vince's Paynes Grey is a great colour too, possibly a little better than Blue Black.
Light bronze and all the jades are my favs. I’d love to see some AP speedpaints uses/top 10. My father grabbed me the set for a gift and i rarely use them, other than the metals those are nice.
Recently found you and gotta say I love your videos, best miniature paint reviews on the internet. You cover nothing but relevant information, seem completely unbiased, have great editing skills, and the way you speak keeps me engaged throughout the whole video. I'm just getting into 40K now and I'm primarily using your content to judge which paints to use and was wondering if I could get your opinion? AK for acrylic colours, Vallejo for metallic, maybe Two Thin Coats for white (got a Tau combat patrol, colour scheme is gonna be predominantly white so I don't mind getting a premium paint just for this one colour)
Cheers :) Sounds like a good starting plan, I've written down my a list of my favourite paint ranges and metallics here: taleofpainters.com/2023/08/stahlys-best-miniature-paints-warhammer-2024/
Finally and with fortunate timing! I've been holding off with deciding on a paint for the Veteran Guardsmen gas masks and blankets waiting for this swatch. Now I've almost reached the point when I had no other elements left to paint.
I love Pro Acryl, and I have the complete line except for the signature series, of which I only have the rogue hobbies set. However, I have noticed that for a line with a relatively mid-sized paint range, they do seem to have a number of colors that are pretty close to each other. I am forgetting the exact names now, but there are a couple of purples that are essentially identical. Additionally, I just discovered today that the golden brown and I think the yellow ochre colors are almost identical as well. I definitely wish I had skipped a couple of those paints now. I also see a few holes in some of their lighter shades. For example, I love the bright Jade that you just showed, but I was painting a mech in cel shaded style recently, and that just wouldn't work as a highlight. It was too yellowy or something, which was surprising to me because it didn't match the other paints in its own line. Even just using that one brand, I ended up needing to kind of mix my own highlight color for the greens
Great video as it gave more insight than your standard reviews. Going to have to try some of your recommendations that I have not used yet. Would love to see a similar video like this with the two thin coats range.
I can't argue with you list, it's pretty strong: My list In no set order is: Bold Pyrrole Red, Mahogany, Bright Ivory, Dark Warm Gray, Transparent Brown, Blue Black, Bright Jade, Dark Sea Ben (Komet’s Signature), Magenta, Faded Plum I had to weed out the Bold Titanium White, Coal Black, Dark Gold Brown,White Gold and Bronze to make it only 10… I'd love to see you side by side comparisons of single colors from your favorite sets, with you pros and cons. It's really interesting see why you choose one or the other, out of similar colors from the ranges.
I really enjoyed this and would welcome additional videos like this. As an AK fan, I'd be curious what you go with there. I also like that you compare the colours to the Citadel colours.
Great video. Paint ranges are so massive today that picking up the best from each makes more sense than entire sets. Would be interested to hear what your top paints from the new Vallejo ranges are.
I do own a few pro acryl but the increased drying time, tendency to separate and thin down on a wet palette I can overlook but the Matt finish is something I really dislike
Nice video. I like the top ten idea. Also good to compare to other ranges - particularly about the White. As usual some good tips regarding mixing colour and what do you want from a range. Thanks
Definitely not as important as all your (amazing) current paint ranges reviews, but I was wondering if you’ve ever planned on doing a review of Citadel paints? Since you talk about them in every review and compare literally every paint range to them, it’d be nice to know your full thoughts on the strengths and weaknesses. They’re clearly not as new and trendy as all the new paint lines you review, but it’s a bit of a big gap in your otherwise comprehensive review list, especially cause they seem to be the standby you compare nearly every paint to.
I like some of these paints but im absolutely lost how to use the bottles LOL. I poured a tiny bit out onto my pallet, closed the lid, and its just stuck now haha
It would be great if you could do this video for other ranges, and then do a personal “if you could only have these 10/20/whatever paints total from every range” which ones would you have.
Since I already have an assembly of New Vallejo Game Color and AK 3rd Gen, I found the sets of Ninjon and Vince to be a great addition, since its not that easy to either find or mix these colors. I dont like the high price for these colors, but I like to use them
Bold Pyrole Red is by far my favourite red paint out of everybrand i have. Besides their red, I use PA greys and Ivorys, because I found out that AK stuff is really close to the PA in most colors I use, and AK is way cheaper and easier to get compared to PA
While there are some staples in the Pro Acryl range for me like Bright Warm Grey, Khaki or Payne‘s Grey, I find myself always use colours from a different brand when it needs to be very smooth. I don’t know what it is that everybody gets so exceptionally hyped about Pro Acryl but they simply don’t dry as smooth as, say , Citadel or AK. They leave a very slight grain all the time, maybe it’s the medium, but that’s why I mostly use them for basecoats so I can use other, more smooth colours on top of them.
Well matte paints have a more porous surface on a microscopic level compared to satin paints, though this helps subsequent layers as this creates more "grip" for the paint to adhere to
I totally agree! But when I compare Pro Acryl so something like Scale 75, it’s just less smooth. There are very very slight bumps in the surface that I don’t find in many other paint ranges. Just an example: I recently used Mahogany, which is an exceptionally lovely colour, on some dwarfs but compared to Charred Brown from Game Color is just had lumps and glazed not as good. I don’t question the fact that they are still good paints and that bumpy issue can be fixed with a nice varnish. I just want to question the (to me) incomprehensible hype that is generated around them, maybe encouraged by their social media strategy of promoting everybody that shares their products.
My favorite paint for Caucasian skin tone is Pale Flesh from Vallejo Game Color. For a more tan look, Skin Tone (also Vallejo Game Color) works well and Basic Skin Tone from AK is almost identical to it and both are excellent paints. Personally, I think the Pro Acryl Tan Flesh works better for Asian skin but it's a great paint either way.
Where would you go next with using tan flesh for painting a Caucasian skin tone? In your example you are using it to base the flesh of the clan rat, what colour would you use next to highlight it or would you use something to shade it? Would you consider a video on which paints are good for other skin tones? I'm looking to paint some of my Infinity models that are based on the Māori people and other Pacific Islanders, then moving onto a faction based on middle easterners
For the Clanrat I just used Flesh Wash and then another layer of Tan Flesh as it's already quite light. Shadow Flesh complements Tan Flesh nicely for shading and mixing, and if you want to push the highlights even more I'd mix a little bit of Olive Flesh or Ivory into Tan Flesh.
