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Start Menu WARS! Open-Shell VS Start11 VS StartAllBack - The Best Windows Start Menu Replacement is? 

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The #windows start menu has shifted. It used to be a tool for you to organize your system. Now, it's still that, but it's also a way for MS to force their garbage into your computer. However, there are some great ways to take back control of your start menu.
We are going to look at the three big start menu replacements: #open-shell, #shart11, and #startallback. Check out the video and let me know which one you like best?
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Intro: 00:00
Open-Shell: 02:50
StartAllBack: 06:46
Start11: 11:03
Explorer Patcher: 14:15
Which is Best? 14:35
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@DeadPixel1105
@DeadPixel1105 3 месяца назад
0:21 Sorry to rant here, but I'm actually really fed up with this trend that countless companies have been following the last several years: companies deciding that they're going to just flat-out ignore what the customer wants and instead will DECIDE for the customer. No longer does a business have the attitude of: "What are customers demanding? What do they want? Okay, let's give that to them." Now it's just: "Nah, you guys don't know what you want. We're gonna give you this instead. Yeah, we know you didn't ask for that and most of you actually hate this. But this is what you're getting. You're gonna like it, don't worry about it." Countless companies are like this now and it really needs to end. End rant. I apologize.
@teksyndicate
@teksyndicate 3 месяца назад
If you look at the timeline, I think companies were always kinda like this, but didn't have as many crafty ideas or a clear means to do so. That, plus the focus has shifted over the years from delivering the best product to harvesting the most user data and forcing people to use certain things. So yeah... rant all you like.
@Benzin0
@Benzin0 3 месяца назад
One of the latest example is what Blizzard did with D4. What a shame.
@bobsoft
@bobsoft 3 месяца назад
Exact reason why I moved over to Linux on my laptop and LineageOS on my phone and tablet. I am done with being told what I want or need and being spied on.
@Ryftrr
@Ryftrr 3 месяца назад
@@teksyndicate i think you hit the nail on the head- Microsoft would have done this type of thing two decades ago had they known a way to automate bloat based on harvested user data the way they do now. I think the exponential creep of invasive and manipulative adverstising in the digital space is to blame. Ever since current giants like Facebook and Google began to profit off of pushing ads everywhere they could on their sites, it became an arms race to see how much they could earn from offering corporate monoliths more and more ways to market their products as aggressively as possible, because when you make all of your profit from the marketers running ads in your site, you don't need a **satisfied** customer base, you just need a large one. And when you get big enough, you don't need to worry about competition if you can artificially influence your customers to stay with you. For big business, the end goal has always been profit; if you don't have to provide a good product/service to make that desired bottom line, why put in the extra effort to make something good when the money is still there? Minimum effort : maximum reward, late stage exploitative capitalism at its finest.
@BoeBins
@BoeBins 3 месяца назад
Enshittification
@cee128d
@cee128d 3 месяца назад
I'm partial to Open Shell. Started with Classic Shell years ago. then when the developer of Classic turned it over to the new team and they rebranded it as Open Shell I stayed with it. The main reason I have stuck with Open Shell is that I can save a current setup as am XML file and load it to another computer and be up and running in seconds. That comes in extremely handy when you support as many Non Prophets as I do (as a volunteer) and have older volunteers that can't figure out the Fisher Price Start MS ships with 8, 10, or 11. Greatly reduces the amount of support calls., plus it's free.
@mikeadams8027
@mikeadams8027 3 месяца назад
I still install Classic Shell on every Windows 10 pc that I build.
@cee128d
@cee128d 2 месяца назад
@@mikeadams8027 You really owe it to yourself and those you build computers for to switch to Open Shell. It's considerably better and actually much easier to install on Windows 11. Plus it gets updated necessary. Sticking with Classic Shell is like sticking with Windows Vista.
@UltraCenterHQ
@UltraCenterHQ 2 месяца назад
Openshell really looks like it hasn't had an update since I first tried it. While Start11 and StartAllBack are focusing on two different things. 11 focuses on the start menu designs, while AllBack focuses more on the consistency and function
@Vicorcivius
@Vicorcivius 3 месяца назад
I still remember when I was told that it was the linux users that were the masochists. Oh how the times have changed.
@DrTucker
@DrTucker 3 месяца назад
Using classic shell/Open shell since windows 8 and never looked back. 😊
@Boaxiho
@Boaxiho 3 месяца назад
Yoooooo throwback - cool you’re still out here man 🎉❤
@Dr-Nonookie
@Dr-Nonookie 3 месяца назад
I have been using Startback10 (The Windows 10 version of Startallback) for a few years now. I got my daughter Startallback for her laptop. I always forget I even use it and when I go to a vanilla Windows 10 or 11 install I always have my mind blown thinking that's what the majority of people use. When I do finally upgrade my Windows (probably when 12 comes out) I'll look into any upgrades to Open-Shell. I love customization and I wish Windows would just copy KDE Plasma already.
@feralshad0w
@feralshad0w 3 месяца назад
I finally upgraded to windows 11 over the weekend and while I can do all my work stuff, the interface is so inefficient and slow to navigate... this video has saved my sanity!
@JazzDogTraveler
@JazzDogTraveler Месяц назад
I just may un-rollback to Eleven. I rolled back from Eleven no less than six times, since Eleven escaped from the pits of Hell. I keep going back to Ten. With these options I think I will give Eleven a try again. I just hated the inefficient Explorer, lack of proper Explorer ribbon, system freezes, and the Gestapo/Mafia like lockdown of the task bar, as well as the overall Vista-like performance. Every time I installed Eleven, I'd die a little inside.
@Trevor_Bennett
@Trevor_Bennett 3 месяца назад
Been using Classic Start Menu since Windows 8 was released. Will keep installing it on every new Windows they release. I cannot stand the "updated" start menu.
@Z_3D
@Z_3D 3 месяца назад
Easy to follow vids. My set up looks just like I want thanks!
@Patrick1985McMahon
@Patrick1985McMahon 3 месяца назад
The first thing i do with a fresh install is set the start menu back to the left. I hate the new default center mode.
@ChromeMagnum
@ChromeMagnum 2 месяца назад
Yes!
@YousefMohamedAbdulMoniem
@YousefMohamedAbdulMoniem 2 месяца назад
ok lol
@pyromethious
@pyromethious Месяц назад
Now if one of these will allow for the SM to be on any of the 4 sides of the screen instead of just the bottom, then that'd be great.
@joechristl1444
@joechristl1444 2 месяца назад
Love this video, Do any of these things integrate "Search Everything"? Or do you run that separately (or at all)?
@Ryftrr
@Ryftrr 3 месяца назад
I personally use StartAllBack, in fact I switched from OpenShell (which I started using as Classic Shell back at the dawn of Microsoft's inaugural dumpster fire UX shift that came with the dreaded Windows 8) OpenShell is also very very nice but I prefer StartAllBack's GUI and the way it fixes Explorer and the Taskbar instead- the "segmented" taskbar is one of my favorite options, in fact I was doing something similar with my DE's taskbar on Linux before I learned of StartAllBack from a TekSyndicate video several years ago. Thanks for doing these vids, this is the holy grail of Windows PC videos for IT gods and power users
@ryanbartlett672
@ryanbartlett672 3 месяца назад
I watch a lot of You Tube. Over time you can sense plain speakers vs. Company men. Thanks. Your quote on the start button as another method for companies to push their message is spot on.
@mohamad20zx34
@mohamad20zx34 3 месяца назад
Thanks I still miss that classic windows 7 Start menu so much but at least we can always fix it
@skies1586
@skies1586 3 месяца назад
I am using startisback set window 7 with coloured transparent taskbar matching the wallpaper on my laptop. The desktop looks so clean and not corporate and it feels so comforting for some reason.
@prettycool7301
@prettycool7301 2 месяца назад
Great video, cheers!
@jerichothegrey
@jerichothegrey 3 месяца назад
Are you.. by chance... running this on a mini pc?
@tjjenkin42
@tjjenkin42 3 месяца назад
Where can I find that wallpaper?
@Finite-Tuning
@Finite-Tuning 3 месяца назад
I've been using StartAllBack on a couple of PC's, but with all new systems I've just been making the tweaks manually in the registry. Nothing to install that way. So, did ya win the race? You must've been doing 200mph here 😁. You were too fast for my eyes to keep up. Cheers 🍻
@TommyCrosby
@TommyCrosby 3 месяца назад
I use Startallback. It does a bit of everything without being too much, and while it costs money, it doesn't have a DRM like Stardock to limit the amount of active installs.
@PhD63
@PhD63 2 месяца назад
I’m using Start11 and have it setup so that when I hit the start button the menu opens with folders and tabs. You can add/remove programs to the folders or folder tabs and customise the look of the folders. IMO it’s the best.
@Atem_S.
@Atem_S. 3 месяца назад
Open shell for the win! Been using since I left W7 and never looking back! Using during W8 now W10 and also when moving to the next Windows.
@CoolDudeClem
@CoolDudeClem 3 месяца назад
I always use OpenShell, ever since Windows 7 I have not liked the start menu style so I have a windows 98 style start menu with only the things I need in it.
@pyromethious
@pyromethious Месяц назад
As much as I loved the Win7 SM, I did adapt to the Win10 SM and would prefer to stay there at this point.
@IfritBoi
@IfritBoi 3 месяца назад
open shell with explorer patcher is amazing together, you can change everything the way you want your taskbar and start menu to be and if you wanted to, your File Explorer as well
@djtribo8925
@djtribo8925 3 месяца назад
I am so doing this! Thanks, Logan!
@pixelgamer83
@pixelgamer83 3 месяца назад
I like explorer patcher but I have had Windows updates break it numerous times. It is pretty annoying. Or it crashes and to get things back to normal I have to reboot. Love that it is free but it does come at a cost. At least on Windows 11.
@Damian-cilr2
@Damian-cilr2 13 дней назад
i personally use both startallaback and open shell but its kinda frustrating with the occasional bugginess and the inability to change the taskbar texture for SAB,and with explorerpatcher being partially discontinued with the 10 taskbar being delyeeted from 24h2 unfortunately i may have to switch that for startallback at some point if i ever have to really update SAB start menu kinda...sucks compared to classic shells
@multiversehacking
@multiversehacking Месяц назад
I might be in a minority, but the deal-breaker in W11 vs W10 for me, was that I put my taskbar on the right. It's much more efficient to go back and forth from side to top (for Windows task bar to app menus) vs. bottom to top. I think StartAllBack is the only one that offers this side taskbar, but could be wrong.
@jimyohe100
@jimyohe100 3 месяца назад
Can you move the taskbar over to the left edge (or right or top) like Windows 10 and earlier, use to let you do?
@S.A.S.H.
@S.A.S.H. 3 месяца назад
ExplorerPatcher lets you do this.
@jimyohe100
@jimyohe100 3 месяца назад
@@S.A.S.H.I found the video so I'll watch it.
@Bewefau
@Bewefau 3 месяца назад
I installed that on windows 8 I think it was? and it changes the task manager and made it so I couldn't get into a feature that you can only access from the original task manager so it kind of sucked. I think that was Open shell.
@user-qb8zw7rz4i
@user-qb8zw7rz4i 4 дня назад
Does start all back work with explorer patcher in window 11 or 10
@Jwalk9000
@Jwalk9000 3 месяца назад
That's all well and good, but do any of those allow me to put the windows 11 taskbar at the top of the screen. I've been using as top screen taskbar Windows XP, I prefer it that way, I'm not really sure why but it makes more sense to me.
@teksyndicate
@teksyndicate 3 месяца назад
You can do this with Explorer Patcher.
@Jwalk9000
@Jwalk9000 3 месяца назад
@@teksyndicateexcellent!! Thanks!!
@Meastersquallx
@Meastersquallx 3 месяца назад
If you don’t mind share the wallpaper they are beautiful and amazing
@davidbarton5974
@davidbarton5974 3 месяца назад
It might be Microsofts fault and not Stardock, but for the last few weeks the taskbar/startmenu takes an age to appear at boot. I had to disable Start11 and Realtek Audio Service from opening in msconfig and both stock start menu + Explorer Patcher (my preference) work just fine.
@tyote
@tyote 3 месяца назад
Start11 has fit the bill for me. I really like the search, and I didn't want to tweak anything beyond the start menu and the taskbar size/transparency. I like being able to set everything up in just a few minutes then forget about it.
@aaronsnyder2198
@aaronsnyder2198 3 месяца назад
Your videos have helped me (new PC user) a bunch! However, I still feel like my new laptop is cluttered with unneeded crap and running unneeded processes (I get a spinning blue wheel quite often, while doing nothing). It makes me feel like the machine ($1,500 laptop) is bogged down. The video you did on using a local account was helpful, until I made the mistake of signing into Xbox, which apparently forced my device into using a Microsoft account. 🤦‍♂️ I’m not loving the switch from Mac so far. 😬 Can anyone help?! 🙏
@slimysomething
@slimysomething 3 месяца назад
try turning off things that run on startup
@AA-me5nw
@AA-me5nw 2 месяца назад
Open-Shell caused some annoying startup problems, I was used to instant booting but when I used this at first wasn't a problem after awhile it started causing me to take 5+ mins for a bootup whereas without this the login is instant.
@Poorgeniu5
@Poorgeniu5 3 месяца назад
I've been using Open Shell since finding out about Classic Shell but Start11 looks like a nice option to bring KDE/Cinnamon style start menu to Windows 10/11 but for me, you can't beat the FOSS choice.
@mimat_
@mimat_ 3 месяца назад
what font do you guys use in your videos?
@teksyndicate
@teksyndicate 3 месяца назад
In the video: Ac437 Wyse700a-2y For the thumbnail: DIN 1451
@mimat_
@mimat_ 3 месяца назад
@@teksyndicate Thanks
@iyaramonk
@iyaramonk 3 месяца назад
Been using StartisBack basically since I upgraded to 10.
@LadysMan217
@LadysMan217 13 дней назад
Will open shell be able to give me a win 9x/win ME start menu?
@bleufeelin
@bleufeelin 3 месяца назад
using StartAllBack only for mini taskbar feature
@AceWhitelite
@AceWhitelite 3 месяца назад
this comment is a personal vote. I love your content, love this type of content, and would like to assist in your battle with the algorithm gods. Praise talos
@RichardPhillips1066
@RichardPhillips1066 3 месяца назад
I went off start11 when they tried to charge me 5 dollars for an update, it didn't seem that major either
@Grumpy-Fallboy
@Grumpy-Fallboy 3 месяца назад
YAY!!!
@unitybeing777
@unitybeing777 3 месяца назад
Legend, well done in informing us about these l33t apps.
@Mr.Gottfried
@Mr.Gottfried 3 месяца назад
I bought my first own PC 2018 and haven't activated Windows since. I have a black homescreen background and the little watermark in the corner and I don't really care about it. I am not willing to pay money towards Microdog. Maybe I switch to Linux soon. My parents run Linux on their machines, but I game sometimes and don't want the hassle of some games not running. This issue won't be relevant much longer and then I will transition to Linux and be happy. I hope to spare myself from the AI lunacy woven into the next Windows. I still run Windows 10, but how long am I going to ditch AI feature on Windows? Let's assume they also push some on Windows 11 users. I would be forced to transition next years. Let's hope for the best.
@MaffeyZilog
@MaffeyZilog 2 месяца назад
AMazing video that I didn't think could be any better after the explorer video but the explorer vid coupled with this shell video is actual bona-fide useful computing knowledge for newbs and advanced techies alike. So glad to see you up and running with top level content once again Logan!
@Lizard_of_Linux_Lane
@Lizard_of_Linux_Lane 3 месяца назад
I noticed this channel has some Linux content from years ago, are you (or some channel contributors) still using it? I liked the Windows XP start menu. I replaced Windows 10 with Linux, it was free. Only thing I miss is the easy multiplayer gaming, I've spent much less time waiting around for updates.
@teksyndicate
@teksyndicate 3 месяца назад
I have Debian 12 with plasma on my laptop... And I have several Linux vms running, but I can't use it on my main rig.
@Sherry_Armstrong
@Sherry_Armstrong 3 месяца назад
thing i dint like is how they are hiding the old way of finding Device manager and control panel . the new way is so way confusing for me
@Vinhhotboii
@Vinhhotboii 3 месяца назад
I am reinstall windows 10 many time facing issue windows 10 automatic repair loop. My PC keep restart computer All this time drive me crazy please help me
@nerdrooted
@nerdrooted 3 месяца назад
Start11 for me. I personally loved the Win10 menu and its start tiles, as it gives a lot of upfront shortcuts right on the start menu. The Win11 start menu is an abomination, only beaten out for worst Start Menu by Win8. Eurgh.
@RosalinaSama
@RosalinaSama 2 месяца назад
ive been using this stuff for so long now, but im unable to install anything like this on the PCs I use at work, its so infuriating lol
@philosoaper
@philosoaper 3 месяца назад
I've tried all of these and I much prefer StartIsBack ... that's the windows 10 version of StartAllBack I kinda miss the old shell replacements like LiteStep from back in the day...but I guess that's never coming back so start menu replacement is the best we can get now.
@nerijus7
@nerijus7 2 месяца назад
All these options should be built in windows
@Grumpy-Fallboy
@Grumpy-Fallboy 3 месяца назад
do u know WPD, if not u should do a video about it. windows privacy dashboard. wpd app
@Alltracavenger
@Alltracavenger 3 месяца назад
I have flat out detested how Microsoft has messed around with the Start Menu since Win7. I completely skipped Win8 due to this, and have been using Classic Shell/Open Shell since I had to eventually move to Win10. I can't think of a UI that I can't stand more than Win11's, so I am very grateful to the developers of Open Shell and ExplorerPatcher for allowing me to move the entire UI that I've customized and am used to over to the 'modern' OS.
@roxycastleton8563
@roxycastleton8563 3 месяца назад
Fist Start Menu started with Windows 95
@theshapeshifted
@theshapeshifted 3 месяца назад
Classic/OpenShell were good in their hay day but StartAllBack and Start11 are LEAGUES better now in comparison, which to be fair, the free option would likely not be as polished. Just even back in 2013 I never really liked it as much as I do these other options we have now
@MotownBatman
@MotownBatman 3 месяца назад
Long Live CALMIRA II Why Does Everyone Forget the WinXP Zune Theme. That was D0pe
@MotownBatman
@MotownBatman 3 месяца назад
@@GreatLordEli Yessir! Install Win32s so you get half-arsed 32-bit support, Including FreeCell!!!
@helloimatapir
@helloimatapir 3 месяца назад
I'm curious how often you actually use the Start Menu? When I was on Windows, I pinned all my frequent programs to the task and really had no reason to ever open the Start Menu. The last time I felt it was necessary was in the XP era. The Start Menu's introduction in Windows 95 was iconic, but it feels like it's become less useful over the years as the UI has improved. A relic from the past, if you will.
@teksyndicate
@teksyndicate 3 месяца назад
I use it to directly access the legacy control panel stuff a lot. It's quicker to click then type into search then figure out which one is the right thing to click. I also use it for about 100 game shortcuts... This is handy since many see installed outside of steam... Lastly, I pin stuff to it because the task bar gets cluttered
@mbsfaridi
@mbsfaridi 3 месяца назад
@@teksyndicate Do you stll use god mode?
@NoahHeadglitch
@NoahHeadglitch 3 месяца назад
Windows has limited so many small workflow items for me that it's borderline unusable. At least openshell brings back some usability. Had to revert back to windows 10. May have to go the Linux route in the future.
@renascence239
@renascence239 3 месяца назад
The thing is, we have no idea how long are they gonna keep around the code for old start menu and taskbar. They might delete all of it tomorrow for all we know, and then none of these apps will work
@EnlightenedSavage
@EnlightenedSavage 3 месяца назад
Just don't update. I use one of the first versions of 10 with updates blocked.
@t0uchme343
@t0uchme343 Месяц назад
Windows 11 Enterprise IoT is the best version of Windows 11,i like it. I use windhawk mods for customization.
@davidfrischknecht8261
@davidfrischknecht8261 19 дней назад
I've been using Start11 since it was Start8.
@JohnnyElihue
@JohnnyElihue 3 месяца назад
Just a gentle reminder that Linux has gotten really really good in the last two years. I play all my games no problem with steams proton compatibility layer. I know Linux isn't for everyone. But if your going far enough to change entire pieces of the windows OS because you don't like it, it might be time to give Linux a legitimate try.
@PolarCheese
@PolarCheese 3 месяца назад
Linux has indeed changed a lot. After switching from Windows 10 to Kubuntu 4 months ago, using my system stopped being a chore. Linux is not for everyone, but more people should consider giving it a try.
@sleepyopossum3200
@sleepyopossum3200 3 месяца назад
I don't wanna speak for Logan, but I think he's mentioned that he stays on windows for certain creative/productivity software that just doesn't work on Linux and he doesn't want to make any big changes to his work flow, which is understandable. Not bashing Linux at all, been daily driving Mint since 2018 and I'm super happy with it. That said, some people just need certain software that only works on certain OSes for their work. It sucks that people's choices are limited by that, but I get it.
@teksyndicate
@teksyndicate 3 месяца назад
@@sleepyopossum3200 That's it. I run debian 12 on my laptop... and it's awesome... but it just does not support my creative software at all. Otherwise, modding games is way more difficult, and I love modding.
@Metaflux317
@Metaflux317 3 месяца назад
Idk but Nvidia support sucks my gpu rant won’t spin at 100%load on linux mint.😢
@EnlightenedSavage
@EnlightenedSavage 3 месяца назад
Linux is great for people that are obsessed with Linux. If you just want something to run programs windows is your only option.
@greyspot00
@greyspot00 2 месяца назад
I may purchase StartAllBack, but I just hate DRM. I wish more companies would go the route LaunchBox uses, but I also understand that it's old-school and easier to be taken advantage of.
@SRC267
@SRC267 2 месяца назад
You don't need to purchase it, if you know the trial reset trick.
@Galaxy.Windows
@Galaxy.Windows 3 месяца назад
im on stock Windows 10
@elvemoon
@elvemoon 2 месяца назад
should checkout windhawk
@CamelJam
@CamelJam 3 месяца назад
This is fucking awesome, thank you.
@teksyndicate
@teksyndicate 3 месяца назад
Hell yeah, cheers!
@SERVISLAPTOPJOGJAPRO
@SERVISLAPTOPJOGJAPRO 3 месяца назад
Win 7 : start menu fine. Win 8 : start menu fail. Win 10 : start menu fine. Win 11 : start menu fail. Microsoft just playing around.
@HypeXesk
@HypeXesk 3 месяца назад
Linux Mint with stark menu goes hard
@teksyndicate
@teksyndicate 3 месяца назад
If only it supported my software. I love Debian on my laptop... but yeah.
@LDixon21
@LDixon21 2 месяца назад
Open shell
@teksyndicate
@teksyndicate 2 месяца назад
Correct
@EZBlast
@EZBlast 3 месяца назад
StartMenuX rocks!
@nittani.
@nittani. 3 месяца назад
Hey im a developer im going to be releasing my script soon that allows me to use my keyboard fkr everything i hope youll check it out 1.5 is online
@teksyndicate
@teksyndicate 2 месяца назад
I have links turned off, but what's it called? I'll look it up
@selfaware7617
@selfaware7617 Месяц назад
They really went to war with startallback. Windows 11 decided to break it for us. THEN (I know, I know, no one has to tell me) Chrome blocks startallback from downloading whatsoever. Insane
@fasteddie5314
@fasteddie5314 Месяц назад
great info but you talk really really fast and its hard to keep up
@andreasg7834
@andreasg7834 2 месяца назад
Start11 will be the only one, which will not be blocked by Microsoft on Win11 24H2.
@mordecaiepsilon
@mordecaiepsilon 3 месяца назад
I don't really use the start menu or start menu alternatives. I just use Powertoys Run I also hide the taskbar and almost completely ignore it. Instead, I use task view and virtual desktops/workspaces Making my system look thoroughly like Windows 7 might be fun nostalgia trip. For daily use, I use Gnome on Nobara Linux with a bunch of extensions. Maybe I'll switch to KDE if Plasma 6 is good.
@bdays03
@bdays03 2 месяца назад
StartAllBack Will Be Blocked In Windows 11 24H2 Cannot Use Any Customization Tools In Windows 11 24H2.
@dieglhix
@dieglhix 3 дня назад
I use Startallback in my Win11 laptop and classic shell in my Win10 gaming rig. Why Microsoft hates its users? Everyone agrees Win7 was the best UI. I understand why people hate Windows, because of the start menu. But it's a simple fix
@praetorxyn
@praetorxyn 3 месяца назад
I don't really care at all what the Start Menu looks like from a functionality standpoint, as I just hit the Super key and start typing what I want when I want to launch something, whether I'm on Windows or Linux or Mac (though in Mac and certain Linux DEs / WMs it will be a different key combo), because that's way more efficient than drilling down into hierarchical menus with a mouse. I do like the tweaks to explorer though so I'd probably use one of these and just make it stick with the Win 11 start menu as I think it looks nice. They basically ripped off DeepIn.
@teksyndicate
@teksyndicate 3 месяца назад
Did you used to use Launchy on Windows XP?
@praetorxyn
@praetorxyn 3 месяца назад
@@teksyndicate No. I think back then I hadn’t realized you could do anything like that yet, so I was using the mouse. I think I started using the search and launch method in Vista or 7, and after that I asked myself, “How did you ever live without this?”
@DaftBlazer
@DaftBlazer 3 месяца назад
Honestly with as much modifying the user interface as you do, why not just use Linux with the KDE plasma desktop? Linux gaming is so good these days and no need to "debloat" windows or deal with its built in Spyware and ads
@BigWillieFreestyle
@BigWillieFreestyle 3 месяца назад
Yep, that's how I fixed my computer a few weeks ago -- I installed Nobara. Pretty happy with it, and it helps me reinforce my Linux knowledge. Double win in my book.
@teksyndicate
@teksyndicate 3 месяца назад
I'll make a video on this soon... but the software is the issue. I use FL Studio to make music and it's the most important piece of software that I have. I can kinda get it working in Linux, but the plugins do not work. Beyond that, my favorite program for listening to music is Foobar 2000, and they don't have a linux version. I installed the flatpack that comes with wine, but my js panels don't work at all... and getting it to read music from my nas was not fun to say the least. The last major thing, is that I tinker with games... I mod them, fix old games to work on ultrawide or modern games to work on a CRT, etc. This stuff is nearly impossible on Linux. So, while I have to fuss for 15 minutes to install a Windows start menu and such, I have to fuss for 30 hours to get Linux to use the programs I rely on... I wish those programs would come to Linux... and I wish modding games was easier.
@DaftBlazer
@DaftBlazer 3 месяца назад
@teksyndicate I'd love to see you do a linux video. I haven't used music making software in many years so I'm not sure what options there are, and I'm not sure if you'd be open to alternatives on music players (I use jellyfin for my music). For game modding protontricks has been great, aside from manual modding depending on the game. I'm very surprised by the amount of tools and launchers thare are available for Linux now.
@darkempire4182
@darkempire4182 3 месяца назад
Start 11 team are greedy.. stop working on that one,. and starting with Start 11 V2...
@jpmag69
@jpmag69 3 месяца назад
That’s why I stopped using it
@kazi1
@kazi1 3 месяца назад
Hi
@Phan7om7
@Phan7om7 2 месяца назад
Too bad Microsoft killed this
@635574
@635574 3 месяца назад
I used a recent w10/11 menu when instaling an actual office onto my brothers girlfriend'a laptop, and boy that thing is a scam, you have to hit the tiny open button to launch a program thats already on your PC. Glad I stayed on win 7. But sure newer software wont always install here and i gave up on AAA games for old HW reasons. In my previous work we used classicshell on windows 10 for the 7 lookalike start menu.
@franciscomalmeida
@franciscomalmeida 3 месяца назад
Funny, I find it infinitely easier to just ignore windows altogether
@teksyndicate
@teksyndicate 3 месяца назад
If only my software worked...
@kristian6722
@kristian6722 3 месяца назад
stardock is scummy
@teksyndicate
@teksyndicate 3 месяца назад
I didn't realize they had done anything. I'll look into it.
@YousefMohamedAbdulMoniem
@YousefMohamedAbdulMoniem 2 месяца назад
yeah no ill keep the windows 11 start menu, you guys are nostalgia crybabies lol
@SaltCollecta
@SaltCollecta 3 месяца назад
Windows sucks.
@aurelf3158
@aurelf3158 3 месяца назад
thumb down-linux user here
@teksyndicate
@teksyndicate 3 месяца назад
I wonder where all the linux users are. I wish they would say something... oh well.
@RedSaint83
@RedSaint83 3 месяца назад
Then why are you watching a video about Windows? I'm on Linux MX now (daily driver since January) but still appreciate these Windows customization videos.
@chomskyan4life
@chomskyan4life 3 месяца назад
I am using a start menu. On Linux!
@kmarx9881
@kmarx9881 3 месяца назад
Lmao ❤😂
@teksyndicate
@teksyndicate 3 месяца назад
which one though?!
@chomskyan4life
@chomskyan4life 3 месяца назад
@@teksyndicate Arc Menu. It has quite a few layouts built-in that cover everything from Windows 98/2000 through 11, as well as Plasma and Budgie menus. I also use an old school microsoft logo for the icon to complete the nostalgic vibe.
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