Not only DC locos, but EMUs as well. This is the song of the EMU class 460 of the Czech Railways (nicknamed Tornado thanks to the engines/gearboxes sound): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Tvg36T3u5S8.html or an old EMU class 451 of the Czech Railways (nicknamed Frog's Mouth): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--UPOiQD7Hzc.html
@@biglightball, it is easier to produce spoked wheels. Also, these wheels has replaceble tires - the only wheel's part, that intensively wears out by running and breaking. No need to recycle the whole wheel, when it would be weared to it's maximum permitted level.
@@biglightball, spoked wheels are easier to produce, but it costs higher for maintenance and replace its tires, if we try to calculate costs for technologically advanced West countries with high man labor costs. It is cheaper to replace weared "solid" wheel with new, than to have maintenance facility and people to replace tires. It is feature of modern global economy. Also, new Western AC 3-phase motor traction technologies reduces wheel wearing and extending its lifetime So, "solid" wheels in modern technology locomotives have acceptable lifetime. These spoked wheels with replaceable tires were perfect for pre-1990 era locomotives, like in this video, with manual traction control, frequent wheel slips and blocks.
Because both of them have 2nd class traction drive. As we know, traction drive systems have classes, and they can be "nose-suspended" - i.e. non-suspended (1st class), semi-suspended (2nd class) and full-suspended (3rd class). - In 3rd class, the cardan shaft is put between wheelset axle and the gear - this shaft is a hollow tube around the axle. Traction motor is fixed on the bogie and great cog wheel is fixed on hollow tube around the axle. It's full-suspended system. - In 2nd class, the cardan shaft is put between traction motor shaft and the gear - it is installed inner of traction motor tubular shaft. Traction motor fixed on the bogie and great cog wheel is fixed directly on the wheelset axle. It's semi-suspended system, because the gear box (and its great cog wheel) is unsprung mass - and the rest of mechanical parts is a sprung mass. The distance between the centers of two gears (a great cog wheel and a pinion) is a "center distance" - in different classes of traction drive, this distance can be continious (e.g. in 1st class) or intermittent. In this way, cogs on both gears losing their contact patch (when locomotive moving on inertia), and that's the reason - why Skoda locomotives and sovies EMU trains (ER2, ED4M, etc.) have similar gearbox sounds. I hope, I'm not mistaken. Это потому что у них одинаковая конструкция тягового привода. Так, опорно-рамный привод локомотива бывает "2-го класса" (ЭР/ЭД, ЧС-ы, ЭП1) и "3-го класса" (ТЭП-ы, ЭП20). Если вкратце: - У привода 2 класса - полый вал и муфта расположены на ТЭД, а редуктор опирается на ось колёсной пары напрямую - он не обрессоренный: т.о. привод 2 класса считается частично обрессоренным. - У привода 3 класса - полый вал и муфта расположены на оси колёсной пары, а тяговый редуктор опирается на ось колёсной пары через полый вал - он обрессоренный: т.о. привод 3 класса считается полностью обрессоренным. А у тягового редуктора есть понятие "централь": это расстояние между ведущей шестернёй (на ТЭД) и ведомым зубчатым колесом (на колёсной паре). У тяговых приводов разных конструкций, это расстояние бывает постоянным (жёсткая централь) и непостоянным - как в нашем случае. Из-за того что привод 2 класса обрессорен не полностью, а частично - то между необрессоренным зубчатым колесом на оси К.П. и всеми остальными, обрессоренными частями привода - во время движения локомотива возникает болтанка (или резонанс), в результате - зацепление между зубьями передачи то ухудшается - то улучшается, в тяге или на выбеге. Из-за этого мы и слышим похожий звук у ЧС и ЭР/ЭД. Надеюсь - не намолол чушь.
I love the snoring of these old trains... here in Brazil there is a specific model (already disabled) that emits an extremely loud traction sound haha and even by video you can't get the true idea of how loud it is.. .. but I mean, personally it's extremely loud! There's a video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oDa_BUV8mrs.html
Very cool thanks. I got it pretty loud on my attached sound system. Reminds me of the sound the original 1950's subway trains in Toronto, Canada made but yours is much louder.