Jax isn't a racist, but is certainly a misogynistic butthole. There is a huge difference. If they fired Jax, they'd have to fire most men on most TV shows. It's like Andy said, "He's a hole is a hole kind of guy." He never cared who he was banging... black, white, male, female... as long as he was getting laid. The problem isn't racism with Jax, it's narcissism.
@@TCTrueCrimeSages He's stolen liquor from Sur, I think dishes too, that Lisa is aware of. And he had sex with that recovering alcoholic server in the bathroom at Sur too. All worthy of walking papers.
@@TCTrueCrimeSages Just because he slept with a black person does not mean he is not a racist. Racists can and do sleep with blacks. Historically racists have raped black women and black men. Do not understand that simplistic view. Look at Strom Thurmond he was a racist but had a black mistress and a biracial child. Please pick up a history book. Can list multiple examples of this. One can have "a black friend" and still be a racist. Lincoln was apparently "decent" to the black workers he came across but he was a white supremacist. History has really whitewashed his reputation. Look up his words. This is despite him issuing the Emancipation Proclamation.
The problem with Stassi is, she believes that she's the smartest person in the room and clearly by looking at this interview, you can easily tell that she's not.
Stassi made the show !!!! Her being a bitch is what made everyone watch. I believe Stassi is genuinely sorry and she was super young and dumb when she did what she did and of faith would have been white Stassi would've did the same thing
She is a Karen, not she was a Karen. She’s just entitled narrow minded spoiled girl. Say mean things is one things try to get someone arrested are actions not just words.
Oh please these are just spoiled people who think because they have been on TV they can behave badly and say awful things and we the public will listen. My 13 year old behaves better than these women do. Get them all off. Nothing they have to say holds any weight
This just feels like her “crisis management” team told her what to say. I do believe she is trying to change at some level but I believe she is trying to get another reality tv gig even more.
Oh, definitely she's trying to get back TV. Where else can you make tons of money for very little work. Then she will be the same awful person she's always been she'll just know not to try to get others falsely arrested and if so, be stupid enough to repeat it in public.
Matti Lee IKR? It’s not a bad thing to reinvent yourself by evolving and most don’t do it because it’s really hard. Where’s the Man Show cast? Oh yeah disgusting crap and horrifying things said and done but they’re working, just differently. Howard Stern? So many men have been highly offensive yet we shrug and move on. She can too. She’s accepting responsibility and will work again. It may be reality or another gig she loves. And she should. Mean girls though...
I hope she finds a normal life without Show Business and becomes a regular mom and hopefully a regular wife without whining too much. It's hard to watch her.
Girl you're too old and with all the information readily available, you should know better. I have little to no patience with people in that age group claiming not to know better.
LVP also defended transphobic behavior of cast members in the past and repeatedly gaslit the one trans cast member who stood up for herself against them. LVP isn’t truly an ally to anyone, it’s all an act edit: also jax has been homophobic and biphobic countless times on the show and LVP sticks up for him to this day
She was on Queen Bees in 2008 which was a show about giving mean girls a personality makeover, she seemed to kind of change during the show but being on Vanderpump made me realize she NEVER changed lol
Here's what pisses me off: if you watch the actual interview (only 5min so see it if you can), you'll see towards the end of it Tamron asked Stassi what a diversity coach is and Stassi fumbled through the answer. Hmm, ok. But then, Tamron asked her what what are the sessions like and again, Stassi stumbled trying to explain what it was by saying the last session she attended she did a test but she didn't remember the name. It's an implicit bias test and it's the easiest thing to remember. As someone who was participated in diversity training, this is the first thing you do, not something at the end. Then you have actual discussions and vignettes of dicey situations that emulate potential discrimination. Stassi didn't do any of it. Her intention was to seek forgiveness to start making money again. Although my comment seems heated, I want you all to know I rarely place judgment on anyone but this is a clear misrepresentation of facts. I did appreciate that Stassi apologized but I don't appreciate appearing as though she's taken actual steps to learn from the mistake. I hope she continues to grow as a person and no longer engages in discrimination. We all make mistakes and I hope her intentions match her actions.
Um my diversity coach? It is the person my PR rep forced me to see to salvage what is left of my life. After I take the why it's bad to hate class I will look it up lol get off the screen and go get a humble job working with the elderly or something lol
Stassi is a straight up “Mean Girl” who went after someone because of their race. She’s made fun of everyone because she is perfect and had the right to or so she thought. Growing up is hard to do and part of that is learning from our mistakes or misfortunes. Karma never forgets 💁🏼♀️.
Stassi and that Kristen tried to get their black co star arrested. That is horrific. No apology can make up for that. I'm glad to see Stassi is growing.
How is anyone supposed to learn and all of us heal together thinking like that.? Some people really do not understand and she is holding herself accountable and I am a firm believer that cancelled culture does not work!
@@ginaflores4099 me too. Cancel "Cancel Culture " What happens when the mob comes for you ? Hey remember when Faith recorded her and Jax in bed then sent it to One of the girls to try and destroy his life ? We must talk about that so that people know that she's not innocent in all this either
I'm an LVP fan but it's a little disappointing to know that if it were up to LVP there would've been no accountability (this isn't the first time ppl have accused Stassi of being racist or narrow minded). I wonder if LVP would feel so sympathetic if it were about an issue she cared about. Yes, ppl can grow and evolve but we need to hold them accountable and give them the space to do so. There's a lot of ignorance on VPR and rarely are ppl held accountable for it. Hopefully this is a wakeup call.
Katie said, "imagine being on a show for 10 years and then it's gone!" Well, imagine being hated, abused, targetted, hunted and a victim of constant police brutality all the days of your life! Imagine being ridiculed for talking about the evil that affects you daily, by people who refuse to believe the level of racism that exists, simply because they're not likewise affected. People can take only so much and I sincerely hope we right the wrongs, before we totally destroy each other!!! I do agree with Lisa though, people can change and should be given the opportunity to prove that they can.
Lmao. Hunted? How are Black people even able to leave their homes? How are there Black lawyers,doctors,judges?? My guess is they chose to NOT be a professional victim.
@@williambryant4228 I guess you didn't realize that black lawyers, judges, and even black police officers are pulled over and experience discrimination and even brutality from police officers. SMH! RACIAL PROFILING is done to all blacks regardless of career, socioeconomic status, level of success, or where we reside. Instead of working so hard to be sarcastic, why don't you LISTEN and actually try to learn something!
I wanna know if she reached out to faith privately?! I mean if she’s really sorry & learned something then she should have an honest private conversation with faith
I also think faith could have come asking for apologies sooner than waiting for 4 years after the fact but ok…she finallyyyy came to collect when the timing was more convenient. I’m not saying I wouldn’t have done the same but I do question the timing.
Honestly, I feel like Lisa wouldn’t have given them the same grace if the issue was about homophobia and not racism. She’s only giving them grace bc it isn’t something she seems as important
I didn’t hear that reasoning from her. In the whole interview she said that they needed it and they’ve grown. So she did address that it had to happen but she can also say it’s hard on them. That’s what the interviewer asked.
@@victorialee1239 well if imagine if the black girl had been arrested and it wasn't actually her. That girls life would have changed dramatically worse than just losing a reality TV job. Her ability to get employed anywhere would have been compromised because of her coworkers unfounded suspicion.
Calvin Calvo oh don’t misunderstand me. Stasi was 100% wrong. Not arguing for her or defending her. I’m defending Katie, because this commenter seems to think Katie has defended her and she didn’t.
My issue is that people wait until stuff like this happens, to then realize that they were wrong. I'm pretty sure that Stassi would not be so apologetic and conscious about these topics, if Faith had not brought those allegations to the world. So yes all people have the chance and opportunity to make changes in their lives, however in this case I feel like it's not genuine.
Regardless she should be able to say what ever she wants just like the rest of Americans do, including Faith. Faith has done some shady shit herself and been caught and not even be on the show.
I think Stassi is being to hard on herself. She knows where she went wrong with Faith and has apologized for it !!! Lets move on already. As for her asking why don't all lives matter ? What's wrong with Asking that ? How are we supposed to know if we cannot ask....???
Because black lives matter isn't saying other lives don't matters it's saying right now it doesn't seem like all lives matter so maybe we need to be specific and say black lives and that we need to be included when people say the all
@No Malice I wasn't speaking for all black people I'm speaking from my perspective you are entitled to yours and if you want to say that it's your decision I'm just giving my thoughts on how I take the phrase I don't get mad at people who say it but that's how I take black lives matter over all lives matter
In case people are confused on why people are disgusted: she just said she Wasn’t anti-racist. So basically, just imagine someone saying they aren’t anti-rape. Normal people would be disgusted. Well being racist towards any ethnic group is seen just the same. Bravo for BRAVO, seeing Stassi for the dark sick person she truly is, playing ignorant like she didn’t know racism was all that bad
She is probably still playing the audience - she's smart enough to know that she will be attacked if she says anything other than claiming she was in the wrong. I believe that her entire life Stassi will simply be petty, entitled and spoiled, if not racist. The apparent popularity of her dumb podcast was a testament to the kind of trash that most young people want to and I'm glad it's been removed from all platforms.
Exactly stassi is and always has been a rich , spoiled , bratty white woman who has never had any consequences for her actions. I’m glad she’s being taken Off the show
@@suzielechuga41 Lisa has 100% got Stassi working for her personally and will continue having her back as she’s done with all her staff over the years. Bravo got rid of her but not Lisa Vanderpump.
Amen. So am I. I don’t wish bad things for people but I wish good things for good people. The jury was always out as to whether stassi was a GOOD person. In fact we all know she isn’t deep down. She’s mean and shallow to her core.
she has made elitist comments in the past. In particular, she referred to us as "commoners,". About time her condescending attitude was checked. A dose of humility is a teaching moment.
I think this was a great opportunity lost. Having them staying on their show and educating themselves, educating their viewers, showing how they have grown would have helped more people than just firing.
Nope. Sorry. Racist people need to deal with the consequences of their racism. It is not black people’s job to educate white people about racism. She is old enough to know what’s right and what’s wrong. Good riddance.
I don't think she's racist. A mean girl!? Yes. But let's be real! We are not saints! Not her, not I, not you. You live and learn. Stop crusifying someone for being human! There's actual evil people in this world that we should focus on! It's not her lol.
How can Stassi & Kristen play with someone’s (Faith Stowers) life like that??! What they did was indefensible and Bravo did the Right thing by Firing them.
I didn't expect Lisa Vanderpump to say anything different honestly I didn't.... that's who she is. To intentionally try to destroy someone's life and have them arrested then a year later you found out it wasn't true but you still continue with the nonsense that's evil. What your 're finding a lot of with these type of situations is that people are now being called to task for behavior that they have been allowed to get away with for so long. It's not cool. I'm sorry that these young ladies lost their jobs, but what they did and perpetrated could have resulted in dire consequences for that young woman and she would not have recovered.
But what about when Faith recorded her and Jax in bed then sent it to One of the girls to try and destroy his life ? We must talk about that so that people know that she's not innocent in all this either
@@robbinalease4552 i didn't say she did . I just stated facts that she did record her and Jax in bed to destroy his life. And for the girls to report Faith to police for Jax stolen car , is racist how ?
@@landonjackson3064 Jax knew he had girlfriend when he hooked up with Faith so that's on him; and if "his life was destroyed", that's due to his own stupidity. Faith didn't steal Jax's car. There was a black woman who was wanted for a string of robberies in the LA area, and Sassi and Kristen reported to the police that it was Faith. Jax chimed in and said Faith was wanted for grand theft auto and AWOL from the military. Reporting a person for a crime that she didn't commit and then laugh about it is offensive and disgusting. I'll even say Stassi "may not" be racist, but she is definitely ignorant and doesn't think before she speaks or acts.
Everyone bashing people who are trying to do better. Smh. How are you gunna say she’s gotta learn and do better yet critique the way she’s doing it??? 😂😒
When you’re pigeonholed into “doing better”, it sort of invalidates the efforts. Stassi had zero remorse until she was sanctioned and fired..to this day she’d still be laughing about that story if it hadn’t affected her negatively. That’s why it’s hard for people to buy what she’s selling.
I just wish people were not so quick to jump on the bashing bandwagon, we each have our lessons to learn in our lives and not one of out here is perfect. I think it’s safe to say that the subject of racial inequality is now in the spotlight ( while many other inequalities remain in the shade I might add ) so each has the opportunity to go within and see where they have prejudices, and in ALL areas. This is the true challenge, pointing at others is easy.
Well heck there’s a lot of life coaches out there. Diversity coach can teach a lot about bias and privilege. There’s snuggle coaches. People pay to hug and be hugged by strangers. Not my thing but to each their own. Realizing you’re not anti racist is huge. Just listen to all the mumbo jumbo about how I can’t be racist - I have black friends or my cousin is black coming from some straight up racists. Be a light. Show by example. She can do that. And we should let her
I’d like to know why the Biermans still have a show after Kim’s disgusting comments at the end of that reunion. She said racism didn’t exist until the internet came along and everyone knows it. If that’s not enough to have your show canceled, I don’t know what is...
She wants to “learn and grown” bc it’s advantageous to her career. If you have to be disciplined in some way to be remorseful for your ugly ways, that’s a character thing that weekly Zoom lessons can’t fix.
Katie can you imagine if you were Faith? How would you feel? However I am glad that Stassi is taking ownership. We need more of that and people having an open mind and willingness to see what it’s like to be treated the way Faith was.
The way her bad and bullying behaviour was never checked and even lauded for the "drama" it brought for the show was always going to create an ego that's out of control that expects no consequences but also as a society we should leave room for people to learn and grow and help them get there with compassion when they show willingness. Their sincerity will become apparent through their actions.
Cancel culture is the Salem Witch Hunt "Burn her at the stake " culture of 2020 . The problem with that is , what happens when the mob turns on you ? Not you personally , just figuratively 🙏 🇺🇸
I mean ringing the police on their black co worker was and is shocking! Its just not OK what she did and clearly stemming from Jax hooking up with Faith
It's more of a moral issue than racial issue, quite possibly racial...a black woman was the target....would they have done that to a white woman...or would they have morals then? Even Stassi isnt making excuses anymore....you should consider the same.
I think a lot of it IS how you are raised! Thx for the good point Jessica C. Keep on growing Stassi, nobody is perfect & people need to be more understanding & more forgiving cuz you don't know how others were raised or in general simply lack in understanding what's funny & what crosses the line. Congrats on the new baby Stassi :-)
I don't agree with the cancel culture and it needs to STOP. All of the rats that are behind the movement need to be stopped. But, I can say after watching Stassi throughout all the years, she was completely and bully mean girl. Never a nice girl.
I believe it was somewhat on purpose to keep the show interesting , she was also young growing and learning too , I don’t know anyone who hasn’t made mistakes in life while growing up , especially as the world is changing . They are always so quick to fire people instead of letting people see them grow and change . Our old saying from the 60’s “give peace a chance “ , they were some great years 50’s 60’s and the 70’s .
@@loriclark9765 Oh shush I’ve made plenty of mistakes in life and funny none of them involved racism. She is a racist. Racists don’t deserve peace in life. She is a grown woman tired of you white people infantilism to runaway from responsibility of your actions. She better find a real job because the gravy train stops.
She was worse than a Karen because she knew Faith and both her & her cohort Kristen love to give people hell, and knew what they were doing to Faith. It was stupid to try to punish her for messing with Jax because that dude has been with everybody. Even Brittany let it go. I've watched VPR for several seasons. They both need a psychologist or psychiatrist for their emotional issues. And still probably haven't apologized directly to Faith; I don't care if their "careers" are dead. Stassi talked to Tamron because she wants to continue her career in some fashion and she can't do that successfully if some people view her as a monster.
Bravo only cared about Faith when it became a issue to the public eye!!!!! Did ya"ll catch that? 2 to 3 yrs later they panicked and fired her to protect themselves. Hypocrites !!!!
After that interview Stassi talked mad ish about Tamron Hall, Stassi could not handle being questioned by an educated Black woman. Stassi tried it and failed once again. Tamron wasted her time on Stassi, Stassi is still the same old mean girl. Look it up Tamron addressed that show the other day. Bye Stassi, still a karen.
STASSI WAS NOT ONLY MEAN AND NASTY TO FAITH, BUT TO ALL THE STAFF. SORRY LISA TOOK HER BACK; SHE IS JUST A MEAN PERSON. KARMA IS HERE, SHE GETS NO SYMPATHY FROM ME AND MANY OTHERS.
I believe she's going to be okay. There's going to be opportunities out there this was something she had to learn and grow through so it wouldn't be handed down to her kid. Look at God
They treated Faith like that not because she is black, but because they are bitchy that’s their personalities. Lol the whole “crying racism” is a stretch
Yeah i agree . No one wants to talk about Faith recording her and Jax in bed then sent it to One of the girls to try and destroy his life ? We must talk about that so that people know that she's not innocent in all this either
@@celinaisabel5067 i know right. It's always about race with these people. I still don't know how them calling the police on her for stealing Jaxs car is racist . I dont think that they're racist. Just mean girls. There's a difference
I used to like her until I heard that she called police on a black girl (whom she admittedly did not see doing anything the girl was accused of). Imagine everyone reading this: someone sees you and doesn't like you for whatever reason, (looks, race, personality, etc..) and calls the cops accusing you of a pretty serious crime (in this case because the girl is black). That husband of hers must also have zero morals to want to get with this thing. No, itchb, getting on some pods and yammering nonsense does not excuse this level of awful. I feel the only reason we (the public) are getting a whiff of this chick is because she wants to sell books and try to resurrect her career. I am generally not one for cancel culture but this chick needs to go away for good. Work behind closed doors. Note: I am center and lean right. I am what you call LOGICAL.Truth.
You never judge a book by it's cover, but the content. That's something these young women should teach their kids. That's how I was raised. The same goes for everybody. Equality and dignity should be rights. That said, same goes for law enforcement. Black lives do matter and not all cops are bad cops. Those are facts. Problem is, the ones who are bad make it that much harder for everyone else. It all goes back to the golden rule: Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you. I certainly hope these women have learned why their behavior was so damaging.
@TCTrueCrimeSages Well said & totally agree; I was raised like you. Unfortunately the realistic, aged side of my brain has come to realize what darienhigh said is too often true.
Yeah but when she slept with Jax in front of the old lady she was taking care of , and then recorded it , and then sent it to one of the girls to share with everyone to ruin Jax life . Poor innocent Faith
@@landonjackson3064 exactly. Faith is the FURTHEST thing from innocent. She's done despicable things to innocent people. But of course everyone looks the other way because she's black.or because it didn't involve racism. Faith recorded her sleeping with Jax, without his knowledge, in front of an elderly person who was sleeping who she was being paid to care for, and then revealed it on the show. Humiliating Brittany and not caring what it did to her or their marriage. Poor Faith? You people are ridiculous.
I believe she's genuinely contrite and sorry..However she doesn't appear to be intelligent enough to Express her contrition.. THIS said,if you need a "diversity coach" at her age She'll NEVER conform to her "contrition".. GOOD LUCK!
Courtney Hoover exactly, in order to write a book and have an national podcast and national tv. It is a prerequisite to be anti racist. You got to have some emotional intelligence and knowledge of the world we all live in. In laymen’s terms, she’s justifying her racism.
@@ashleyelley no they he slept with faith and she just wanted to come on the show to clear her name and apologize to Brittney. But since she was black they didn’t want her on the show.
@@ReasonablyHilarious then why would she sleep with Jax knowing that he was in a relationship with Brittany? Even Lisa said in the reunion that Faith wanted her 15 mins of fame that's why she recorded the audio w Jax.
@@dsfsfsfsfs I don’t know why she did that. But I was definitely wrong for her to do that. But it’s very clear that bravo, Andy, LVP, and the cast only wanted to blast her name and not let her say her side of the story. But any other time if it was white that did that she would’ve been able to speak her side of the story or they wouldn’t even mention her.
Faith used Jax as a storyline to get on the show. She wanted her fame and thought she could play innocent and Clear her name but you obviously had malicious intentions since you recorded him. Faith wasn’t put on the show cause she’s not interesting. Period. She was on another reality show (mtvs the challenge) and was dull af to watch on that. And was never invited back cause she wasn’t good TV. She’s just boring and desperate to be on TV. Her race has absolutely nothing to do with it. Two networks gave her a chance and ended up being like nahhh we’re gonna pass lol
The problem with stassi is she wants to “solve crimes” all the time. She talks about it non stop. Three episodes she goes into how much she wants to splay detective and solve a mystery murder at jax and Brit’s wedding.
