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State of Play: Dwarfs with Richy Amphlett 

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This week I speak to Richy about his undefeated run with his Dwarfs!
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@edwardnorth4124
@edwardnorth4124 2 месяца назад
Good interview, I would like to see more with competitive players from different armies.
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder 2 месяца назад
I have one with James Ramsey on the channel (3 times GT winner and his Vampire Counts), but always have my eyes open for more opportunities to talk to the best!
@mrsnakesmrnot8499
@mrsnakesmrnot8499 Месяц назад
This is the BEST Warhammer interview I have ever seen. Content, host, guest, and the included list in the comment section are all outstanding. I would love to see Mr. 6++ host more interviews like this.
@trollslayer8828
@trollslayer8828 2 месяца назад
Really in-depth discussion. Good stuff.
@ElmoMiniatures6PlusPlus
@ElmoMiniatures6PlusPlus 2 месяца назад
All the best to Jamie, Richy. Sounds like an amazing friend
@SanFranSicko
@SanFranSicko 2 месяца назад
Love your interviews, and Richy seems like a great dude! Hope to see more of these!
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder 2 месяца назад
Thanks! There's an interview with James Ramsey on the channel already about his run with Vampire Counts, but I'll be recording more at any opportunity I get!
@mh9590
@mh9590 2 месяца назад
Quality content, hats off!
@That_Rat_Bastrd
@That_Rat_Bastrd 2 месяца назад
Great interview, like Richies mentality.
@8heimdall8
@8heimdall8 2 месяца назад
slayers NEED an option for drilled, they would be way better with only that rule
@user-ly9ms6dm4g
@user-ly9ms6dm4g 2 месяца назад
I would prefer an option for skirmish.
@8heimdall8
@8heimdall8 2 месяца назад
@@user-ly9ms6dm4g that would be good but not the best option, drilled is by far superior. in any case they need something to make them better
@evangelosparaschakis4986
@evangelosparaschakis4986 Месяц назад
slayers need to depreciate pointswise and have goblin fanatics-like doomseekers...
@windowlicker2846
@windowlicker2846 2 месяца назад
Hi question for Richie: I quite like your list and approach and I think we don't play in a dissimilar way, but I've been introducing more rangers and gyros as well to really control the board more (scout, vanguard, mobility). This has been working well for me, but have you played around with more rangers also, and why don't they feature in your lists as much? Also, how do warriors with a BSB reach static CR of 7?
@lordsofazyr2690
@lordsofazyr2690 2 месяца назад
Hey mate , Richy here :) so I’ve tried millions of list variations and for my playstyle I don’t actually want that much board control , I want people to come to me , if I have rangers and gyros out and about in the midfield I’m handing points away , but if they are working for you that’s amazing I couldn’t get them to work in my playstyle :) so the warrior unit is close order , 2 ranks , banner , rune of battle , bsb and rune of battle of battle on bsb :)
@windowlicker2846
@windowlicker2846 2 месяца назад
@@lordsofazyr2690 ah I get it now, I somehow thought you couldn't count RoB twice.
@MarcoHernandez-uo5pl
@MarcoHernandez-uo5pl 2 месяца назад
@@lordsofazyr2690 So the rune of battle counts on being on both the warriors and the BSB or are you taking it on the BSB as well? Great interview!
@user-ly9ms6dm4g
@user-ly9ms6dm4g 2 месяца назад
@@MarcoHernandez-uo5pl On both units. Plus the BSB also has MR of Grungni for the wards.
@pinch1loaf
@pinch1loaf 2 месяца назад
45:55 That's the thing with Dwarfs, is the shoehorn. If you want to win you have to play a certain way and that is deemed poor design and boring. You have to turtle, you have to min max the "strong" units. You have to ignore half the units like cannons, organ guns, slayers, hammerers, longbeards etc,
@mrsnakesmrnot8499
@mrsnakesmrnot8499 Месяц назад
I remember when old world came out, many folks said that a gyrocopter or three was necessary to win, but we see none in Richy’s list. …and with Richy’s list, a player could remove the 5 strong detachment of iron drakes and a rune from a catapult, and a dwarf model from here or there, and replace that with a gyrocopter, organ gun, another catapult, etc. based on preference, and still have a great list. The point is that there are other builds that a dwarf army can have, but it takes a guy like Richy or perhaps yourself, to yet discover it. I am not betting that Richy’s chosen path of success is the only path possible. Even before the arcane journal arrives, I bet that another viable dwarf list is out there undiscovered and untested. So, I gotta give credit to a trailblazer : Richy’s relentless play testing has boiled down this awesome list, and his generalship at the table, to deploy with screens (defense “in depth) is laudable, and something not done by dwarf generals in past editions.
@sebastiencarrieres8825
@sebastiencarrieres8825 Месяц назад
You said the anvil has "spells"? That goes in the book!
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder Месяц назад
Dwarf magic baybeeee
@sebastiencarrieres8825
@sebastiencarrieres8825 Месяц назад
@@CloseOrder It may be is magic, but ain't no spells. They be runes, youngling. And ye be better remember that, or yer name will be in the book next to the beardling of yours. ;)
@sauceman3462
@sauceman3462 2 месяца назад
List link?
@davidasp4288
@davidasp4288 2 месяца назад
Agree, would love to see the list
@armandopatino7379
@armandopatino7379 2 месяца назад
X3
@RAWxxx07
@RAWxxx07 2 месяца назад
Yes list please :)
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder 2 месяца назад
 Format inspected: @2024-06-07T08:37:42+00:00 Battle for Slayers Pride Richy Amphlett === The mighty host of karak drak [2000 pts] Warhammer: The Old World, Dwarfen Mountain Holds === ++ Characters [613 pts] ++ Thane snorri pigrider [299 pts] - Hand weapon - Great weapon - Full plate armour - Battle Standard Bearer [Master Rune of Grungni + Rune of Battle] - Shieldbearers - Master Rune of Gromril Engineer angry amy [54 pts] - Hand weapon - Heavy armour - Great weapon - General Dane Forkbeard Anvil of Doom [260 pts] - Hand weapons - Shields - Heavy armour - General - Rune of Preservation ++ Core Units [501 pts] ++ 17 Dwarf Warriors [249 pts] - Hand weapons - Heavy armour - Great weapons - Shields - Drilled (0-1 unit per 1000 points) - Veteran (0-1 unit per 1000 points) - Veteran [Rune of Speed] - Standard bearer [Rune of Battle] - Musician 16 Rangers [252 pts] - Hand weapons - Crossbows - Throwing axes - Heavy armour - Great weapons - Shields - Ol' Deadeye (champion) [Crossbow] - Standard bearer ++ Special Units [439 pts] ++ 13 Ironbreakers [229 pts] - Hand weapons - Shields - Full plate armour - Drilled (0-1 unit per 1000 points) - Ironbeard (champion) [Shield] - Standard bearer - Musician Grudge Thrower [100 pts] - Stone thrower - Hand weapons - Light armour - Stalwart Rune Grudge Thrower [110 pts] - Stone thrower - Hand weapons - Light armour - Rune of Forging ++ Rare Units [447 pts] ++ 10 Irondrakes [186 pts] - Hand weapons - Drakeguns - Full plate armour - Ironwarden (champion) [Trollhammer torpedo + Cinderblast bombs] 10 Irondrakes [186 pts] - Hand weapons - Drakeguns - Full plate armour - Ironwarden (champion) [Trollhammer torpedo + Cinderblast bombs] 5 Irondrakes [75 pts] - Hand weapons - Drakeguns - Full plate armour - Detachment --- Created with "Old World Builder" [old-world-builder.com]
@armandopatino7379
@armandopatino7379 2 месяца назад
@@CloseOrder Thanks a lot!! 🙏🏿🙏🏿
@GilthosDrakoniss
@GilthosDrakoniss 2 месяца назад
👍👍
@harryhoudini4365
@harryhoudini4365 Месяц назад
I think the thing that puts me off them is theres only 1 real way to play them competitively, with most other factions you have so many ways to build your army
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder Месяц назад
That's very reasonable - I'm struggling with the same thing. The Arcane Journal should breathe some real life into the faction though, looking forward to that!
@harryhoudini4365
@harryhoudini4365 Месяц назад
@@CloseOrder ye that's a good point
@user-xm7ho3nv8f
@user-xm7ho3nv8f 2 месяца назад
what formation on you putting your units in to be able to automatically go into marching column using drilled? as for example if your 10 wide with 20 men, you can only maximum remove 5 from the front rank with drilled? so best formation would be 5x4 which isnt marching column?? just wondering for best deployment set up?
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder 2 месяца назад
I think Richy tends to value the static Combat Res on the less punchy units more than a handful of S3 Warrior Hand Weapon attacks. They only need to be 4 wide to get a rank bonus being Heavy Infantry - so if you start 4 wide or 5 wide (helps fit everything close together in deployment) which gives you flexibility to go either way. Anything punchy or shooty e.g. Iron Drakes/Rangers/Hammerers is more likely to start 10 wide
@user-ly9ms6dm4g
@user-ly9ms6dm4g 2 месяца назад
IMHO the answer is inbetween (I like 7 or 8 wide, 10 is too much) and also depends on how many characters on shielbearers you have in that unit, because that is a 4x4 model. You can count that quite easily, but also plan in some reserves, if you get shot.
@evangelosparaschakis4986
@evangelosparaschakis4986 Месяц назад
Best aesthetic it is for dwarfs. BUT we need a PhD to compete against monster or magic list , slayers are useless and need to be changed doomseekers needed , everything to drop pointswise and a bit buff to the warmachines .we will still play but the fun of actually winning is gone. Far less wins than 8th.
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder Месяц назад
Arcane Journal is coming soonTM, hopefully that helps! Grudge Throwers are choice into dragons, really rate them
@evangelosparaschakis4986
@evangelosparaschakis4986 Месяц назад
@@CloseOrder grudge throwers is our only solution indeed but the 1/6 probability to hit is not in our favour, and if you consider for 30 more points we have irondrakes with torpedo and cinderblast bombs ,it becomes a tough choice.
@frarbelegor711
@frarbelegor711 2 месяца назад
Ok now face a bret with the green knight just for fun.
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder 2 месяца назад
I think pretty much all the melee and both the Grudge Throwers are Magical attacks - so the Dwarves are probably happy to see the green boy!
@ClydeMillerWynant
@ClydeMillerWynant 2 месяца назад
Pretty sure it's only the grudgethrowers as they have runes. They're not very accurate of course (more or less hitting a single model on 5's?)though they do decent damage. I suspect the solution to the problem posed is actually static combat res though I could of course be wrong.
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