James and Harry are on fire and I'm loving it! Seriously each scene gets better and better. Harry talking about how he's still pretending like the wedding is all he's ever wanted...veeery telling.
What? Chemistry off the charts? Opinions are different... And if Harry is such a good man (for James) why this stupid hide and seek? He doesn't love James and neither Ste...
Opinions are indeed different, that's the beautiful thing about them. I agree he doesn't love Ste anymore but in my opinion he has feelings for James that he's still too scared to explore because he's stuck with this marriage idea.
Enjoying the Jarry affair it’s hot. Harry doesn’t love Ste anymore he wants James and it’s more than just sex. I love Jarry but at the same time I think Harry needs time to really figure out what he wants. His head is a mess. Although James seems to be the only thing that gets him to feel anything. “Pretending that the wedding to Ste is all I want.” Says it all doesn’t it? Not much of a Ste fan right now but he doesn’t deserve to be hurt this way. Harry needs to leave him
It is James who tells Harry what Harry supposedly feel - not the other way around. Had I seen this in real life, I would have concluded James to be a manipulative psychopath Harry was too afraid of the consequences to oppose. What I see is a Harry who is so afraid of what James could come to do to him - unless Harry lives up to the image James has of him. Harry doesn`t sleep with James because he loves him, or even likes him, but because he is terrified of how James can come to manipulate and plot against Harry, should James feel Harry was letting him down. Consequently what James says functions as instructions of what Harry can do to prevent that from happening - be the person James wants him to be, and claim him to be. This is classic beaten wife syndrom. Just a like an abused wife is so afraid her husband shall come to beat her, she does anything to attempt to please him and keep him happy. Harry believes sleeping with James and pretending James is who he wants, is the best way to prevent James unleashing anymore manipulative games against him. Like James did when he cruelly exploited Harry`s desperation, needing money for accommodation so Ste shouldn`t start to sell drugs, by first pay him £10 000 for a night of sex, and afterwards extort him to betray his own father. Just as a beating is worse for an abused wife, than all the effort she has to put in to make her violent husband happy - hoping he then will not hit her. For Harry sleeping with James, and pretending to like him, is less of a strain, than not knowing what he could be plotting, should james not be content with him. Because of what James did to him, Harry is suffering from a constant unrest of what James could come to do, should he not be happy with Harry. So in that respect Harry is more James` hostage than his lover or friend.
I am here in Australia and we do not get Hollyoaks here, but i have been following this storyline since it started.......can't wait for the next installment..........
Alright I do like Jarry but I feel bad for Ste. Seeing him planning the wedding...Harry needs to be honest with Ste even though it will break his heart.
The writers spent two years trashing Ste's character, and now that he's pretty much sobered up, they're starting to have a go at Harry's. I guess they're not happy unless one of these characters is miserable. Maybe they think there's more "drama" in the show. Can't they let them at least a few days of happyness, or do they think we'll get bored?
Finally harry have the balls to take what he wants they belong together they went through the same things and finally hollyoaks drama that I actually enjoy
amna kanna coooomon this is called drama show not ethically show he suppose to be like that, and for a Harry personality he expected to act like that according to he's previous reactions
I don't know why I thought of John Paul and Craig when Harry said he still wants to see James -_- sigh I think we all know where this storyline is going. The wedding day will come and then the drama will happen. I don't want Harry to end up with anyone.... but who knows what'll happen.
I really wanted to see a storyline develop between James and Romeo but oh well I guess the writers aren’t ready for that yet but let’s talk about the real stuff now. OMG Jarry scenes are getting steamier and steamier. I mean you can feel their chemistry.
I don't get Harry. If he doesn't want to marry Ste, he should just tell him even if it's hard. Maybe he still loves him but surely not enough anymore if he has to pretend that the marriage is "all he ever wanted". Or maybe he's just confused about what he wants right now. Either way it's not fair to just "play along" while Ste is planning their wedding totally clueless - despite all the shit Ste did in the past himself. But can we also acknowledge that Ste gave Marnie a very good and very true advice? Sometimes he can be so wise out of nowhere LOL
Dont hate on me please! But the jarry affair reminds me of robrons affair . Jarry is so cute together and the way ste talks about harry makes me so happy. Whoever ends up together will make me happy overall.
James to Harry: "Good is the last thing you will ever be." Okay, let's see how this love triangle/affair is going to pan out. Now, I am convinced that Harry really is in love with James and just loves/likes Ste. Plus, I feel that Kyle is going to find out one day and spill the secret affair to Ste to get back at James. Just a prediction.
I've always been on Harry's side and do not like James one bit. But what he is doing to Ste is just plain disgusting. I'd rather Jarry prospers and just let Ste go focus on his babies. No one deserves to be strung along like that. This is going to end BADLY. 😓
Harry you love ste. Your love life has always been around him. You experience life with ste that a normal kid doesn't. But now you are older and have gone through things that changed the way you think and see. You love and care for ste but if you have come to the point where being with ste is bogging you down, it's time to tell the whole truth to ste and break up for good. You will always love ste that is true but it's time to move on if you think that is right. Don't put yourself through this misery and go on with the marriage. Not fair on you and ste. Make a new life without ste. Ste is going to be heartbroken all over again but he will move on too after that. All viewers know starry is not going to last long but it's been a pleasure watching its ups and downs while it lasts.
No one deserves to be cheated on!!! I feel bad for Ste, he keeps forgiving Harry and Harry still cheats. It is kinda heartbreaking to watch. When this all comes out ( eventually); Ste will be extremely devastated. I just hope he doesn't revert back to drugs as a result of all of this.
I like that James didn't give Harry away, and I like that when Harry showed up he was expecting the usual comments and respecting them. Like he understood how this works with Harry, but now Harry has other plans. He doesn't want this wedding but he won't tell Ste, he even wants to be with Ste because he has to be one, but he wants to continue to have a "relationship" with James as well.... Like Harry is all over the place and so contradicting. I just wish I knew why. I mean, is Hollyoaks going for a split personality thing, or a disorder or is this some PTSD talking or just Harry going to through a very late form of puberty.
harry mental state is very simple,he as been with ste since he was 17 ,his all life was about being with ste,marry him and being inlove with him,they went through hell and back and all that changed harry,he is not sure who he is or what he want anymore,but he is sure he is not the man he used to be.its hard to walk away from someone who was such a big part of you for so long,ste was his first love,first relationship,harry entire life revolved around ste, so walking away from all that is not easy,but he is also very much aware that ste is in love with someone who no longer exist,and that means harry as to put on an act everytime he is with ste.it was very telling that ste said "thats why am going to marry him"referring to the person harry was not who he is.with james harry as acceptance,james know harry as changed and that as not affected his feelings for him,he knows the things harry as done and he accept him with all his imperfection that what harry is attracted to.i really believe what left between harry and ste right now on harry part is nostalgia, he is inlove with who they were and part of him wish they could be that again,that they can just erase everything that went down and he can be the man that ste is inlove with,i also think he is scared of leaving ste incase he spiral out of control,the kids are also a consideration.
I Cant speaking english but I try Im sorry for harry beacuse when someone like ste in front of him, he looking at someone els Ste hay is veryyyyyyyyyyyy hand some and cute I wish Brendan goes back
Wow...even if I still shipped Ste and Harry I'd be able to tell that they're doomed. Harry obviously doesn't love Ste like he used to and if they really had such a loving relationship none of this shit would have happened. It's kinda obvious to me that the writers are leading up to a eventual Ste and Harry break up. James and Harry have amazing chemistry and I ship them, but if James wasn't a factor Ste and Harry's relationship would still be doomed. Ste is 'in love' with the old Harry, and it's almost like he's demanding Harry to be the guy that he fell in love with. And Harry is holding onto Ste even though he's not feeling it. He's obviously in love with James!
ste literally said the guy i feel in love with is still in there and am going to marry him,like dude that guy did not survive months of believing he had killed a mother, prison,being disowned by his father and the love of his life,being homeless and living in the street,and selling himself just to survive.
not true,for the first time harry is making his decisions.he is not nice meant he is no longer the nice,naive innocent boy he once was,and he is never going to be that boy again.that was james demonstrating that he does see harry.dont make harry decisions about james,no one made him walk to that door,james gave him an out,james first word were i know it was a once off,harry could have walked away but he did not because he came there for james.
I don't think he's manipulating Harry. I think James is kind of right; Harry isn't the 'nice' guy that he was a couple of years ago. That's not to say that he's a horrible person, but he's no longer that wide-eyed boy he once was and James doesn't want to pretend that he is. James really was just demonstrating that he sees who Harry really is (he sees the good and bad). Ste wants Harry to be the guy that he used to be, but he doesn't understand that Harry isn't that guy anymore. There is no way after everything he went through last year that he's just gonna go back and be that naive kid again.
I’d love to see harry and James together IF harry stops cheating and lying to ste. This whole affair situation is getting ridiculous and unattractive. I want ste to find someone new.
I hate James and Harry. Can't believe I felt sorry for James. I don't feel sorry for Romeo. He's been a jerk and I hate his mum. Give Ste a break. He deserves better than Harry.
Harry just needs to end it with ste ,James find out about Romeo and focus on him,harry will cheat on James if he was with him and both of them deserve better
Tereza Crhova Starry will be back on Monday. Thanks for your patience. I know it’s been awhile but there’s too many actors/characters so every once in a while they have a break in the show to accommodate other stories.
I hate this affair so much. Used to really love Harry and his total commitment to Ste and their happiness, but now that Ste has learned from his mistakes Harry is only continuing to make the same ones even after promising to Ste he would try to change. Harry is addicted to the feeling of going behind ste's back, and the way he's going he'll keep doing it to James if they ever become an item. I want Harry to get out of Ste's life already so that Ste can finally be happy within just his family without any drama, those poor children have been through so much. Ste needs a guy who has his shit together and would be fully committed. Bye Harry, the idea of you is just sickening these days.
Ste just need to focus on just him and the kids && Harry needs to just go ahead be with James because we all know Harry loves him; Romeo need to let James know who he is because James does not even know he has a son
Ok now I'm scared Harry is leaving the show and this is his official character assassination. They aren't showing Harry's turmoil sympathetically anymore, he's just being a dick to Ste even after he promised he just needs a chance. Ste is the writers darling and they won't let Harry treat Ste that way and get away with it. And even tho James manipulated Harry yesterday, the writers love James and will show that James deserves better like Kyle who actually loves James and will put him first. I always knew Harry would leave the show eventually, I just hoped it would be with the love and respect of Ste and Tony, whether he died tragically or left the village for a new life. Please don't destroy Harry's character and make him leave the show in disgrace after everything he's been thru and done for the people he loves.
Shining Armor Yes but ste could relapse due to Harry's exit as well. But I've thought about it again and I'm sure you're right they're not destroying Harry for an exit. Parry teased bad Harry in future, Kieron said a couple times he wants naughty Harry tearing up the village with Ste and Bryan said he loves Ste and Harry both as individual characters and together. I'm sticking with my original thought from months ago; they're changing Harry for a new dynamic longterm and whether the wedding is a disaster or not, I'm confident the Starry story will not end permanently there. If they wanted Harry off the show, it'd make more sense for things to be perfect with Ste and then some tragic accident or other external problem. Also with Sinead returning it would be the perfect framework for a separated broken hearted Starry to be forced to spend time together and rekindle their love haha.
as much as i have come to hate ste and i wish we could get jarry permanently ,i agree with you that the break is not going to be permanent,i think its going to be something like ste /doug when ste left brendan for dough and scammed brendan out of the sandwich place loan ,i think harry need a new experience,he need to grow as an individual who is not defined by ste, just like ste need to get away from the toxicity of his relationship with brendan at the time.but i also think jarry is going to be a significant relationship,i dont think its going to end with the reveal,i think they are here to stay for a while.
James is still in love with Harry when Harry tell him can he handle it just an affair is like he wanted to cry and after control his self.Harry is lieing to his self he Don't love Ste anymore he is just afraid of looseing his frist love so he is holding on to a image that no longer there.
IF harry doesn't tell ste before the wedding it's going to put a lot of pressure on him so I'm guessing he's gonna tell him at the ceremony or James will be crushed and do it himself
Omfg, I am so steamed! After all that shit that happened between Ste and Harry, I wanted them to be together! But fuck it, I hope Harry ends up alone. I understand how Ste has fucked up, but that doesn’t give Harry the right to abuse it however many times he wants. I guess I’m mad because I really wanted them to be together but I guess not.
This whole James/Harry thing is dumb... why are they acting like Ste is some squeaky-clean angel that can't "handle" Harry's "dark side" (or whatever) like James? Just be real. Harry bottoms for Ste and tops w/ James, and he like topping. LMAO
I hope for Starry, but now I prefer this to end soon, Harry is a stupid, who would imagine that Harry would prefer someone else in the place of Ste, do not wring Jarry for sure and I will never cheer !! But now I also do not wrestle for Starry anymore, I hope that Ste soon deserves it, to end their relationship with them and also to marriage.
OK, this too much. Ste has certainly done some bad things in his life, but he doesn't deserve this! That said, Harry's disgrace will be all the sweeter because of this. Wouldn't it be great if Kyle loaned Ste his key and he saw them at it?
I am Done i am really sad that Harry Cheats on Ste.Sorry Harry but you are Stupid please leave Ste and Dont Hurt him anymore.If You Love James Go to James.And Please dont Hurt Ste.Ste is amazing.Stay away from him.Its Unfair About Ste.All Deserve Better than Eachother.But i still hope Harry ends with James.😔
keep smile yeah so the three must stay away from eachother and its sad what makes harry with ste and james.if ste and harry are married is this a lier marriage.poor ste and poor james
Harry and James actually looks repulsive to me. It’s like Harry’s dating his dad. They already complained about Ste’s age difference but James has to be at least 15 years older than Harry I mean come on his son is literally 16 going on 17.
Harry's getting on my nerves him whining about being forced to marry somebody he doesn't want too when ste have him a chance to be honest the other day but if he doesn't have enough g uts to be honest.
Yes I mean I love ste but I'm not blind to his faults some act like Harry is this innocent victim when he's not and I'm finding Harry very selfish and if he cares so much about those kids he claims to care about he would be honest why let those kids get more attached than they already are.
