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Stealing a MiG-15 - Operation Moolah 

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During the Korean War, the North American F-86 Sabre was the only jet that could match the MiG-15 in performance. While the Sabre was technologically superior to its Soviet counterpart, the MiG-15 still often outmaneuvered and outgunned the U.S fighter.
American engineers believe that if they had the opportunity to test and analyze the MiG, they might be able to enhance the Sabre's ability to combat it.
With that mindset, the U.S approved "Operation Moolah," which offered 100,000 U.S. dollars (nearly $1 million today) to the enemy pilot who defected from the Communists forces and provided the U.S. with a MiG-15 in good condition. President Eisenhower saw the campaign as unethical but still went forward with placing the plan in newspaper headlines.
Operation Moolah was mostly unsuccessful for multiple reasons, including its lack of appeal to pilots in Communist countries, who were more interested in being offered jobs than money. However, the reward was eventually cashed in by a pilot who defected after the Korean Armistice Agreement. He didn't even know about Operation Moolah or the cash prize that awaited him. He was just looking for a better life in the West, and in return, he provided the U.S with a MiG-15 in perfect shape...
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@calebricks4890
@calebricks4890 3 года назад
I'm mildly upset they tried to manipulate this guy out of the money he was owed.
@fobbitoperator3620
@fobbitoperator3620 3 года назад
Gaw'damn politicians...
@dyslexicvvolf
@dyslexicvvolf 3 года назад
@Neil Leisenheimer well not exactly that but look what happened to the guys family, you want to talk about ethics lets look at north korea
@GhostOfBillCooper
@GhostOfBillCooper 3 года назад
Well they did pull some BS but he got the money. Too bad his family was killed or enslaved because he defected.
@GhostOfBillCooper
@GhostOfBillCooper 3 года назад
@@dyslexicvvolf It's true they are far worse. But we would be wise not to underestimate the evil of our own intelligence agencies, like the CIA. If they can justify doing atrocities to the enemy, they will eventually justify doing it to us (if they already haven't).
@RyosukeS30
@RyosukeS30 3 года назад
@@dyslexicvvolf North Korea is definitely fucked up not arguing that but yeah lets just pretend things like the "trail of tears" and interment of Japanese-Americans during ww2 and the ongoing detainment and mistreatment(forced hysterectomies, sexual abuse, kids being separated from family and disappearing) of illegal immigrants and the use of Guantanamo bay detention camp for torture purposes and the whole slavery and civil war and segregation and on going institutionalized racism and injustices and all the broken promises made with native Americans and the ongoing involvement of dozens of attempted or successful regime changes and all the mass killings of at labor union protests in the late 19th century into the beginning of the 20th century on top of a bunch of things I'm forgetting or don't even know about. Again lets just pretend none of that happened and that America is as perfect as a saint.
@dr.ofdubiouswisdom4189
@dr.ofdubiouswisdom4189 3 года назад
'Operation Moolah'. *Names that were rejected, Include: 'Operation Commie Cash' - 'MIG Money Madness' - 'Flyin' Into Franklin's' & 'Stealin' from Stalin'.
@goofyblud
@goofyblud 3 года назад
Commie cash lol
@noahhess4955
@noahhess4955 3 года назад
How did they not go with MIG money madness?
@uponwrath4372
@uponwrath4372 3 года назад
@@noahhess4955 right that’s what I’m saying. So much better
@itisjustacomment
@itisjustacomment 3 года назад
I heard they were going to go with " COME ON DOWN " but the price is right got there first.
@dx1450
@dx1450 3 года назад
What about "Cash for Commies" instead of "Cash for Clunkers?"
@gordomg
@gordomg 3 года назад
When I was an engineering student of Dr Rowe (the MiG pilot) in the late 80s it was a secret only a few of us students knew. When asked, he would deny it, but as he gained trust in you he would admit it and recount stories of flying the MiG and his defection. I specifically remember him saying that the MiG pilots preferred flying at lower altitudes because at higher altitudes the canopy would ice over restricting visibility and making them vulnerable to the F86s.
@FixedGearFox
@FixedGearFox 3 года назад
That, right there, is really fuckin cool.
@mikeellis9720
@mikeellis9720 Год назад
@@FixedGearFox except the part about the government not really wanting to actually pay..
@jansdavisbelerts1196
@jansdavisbelerts1196 Год назад
@@mikeellis9720 he didn't want the money he just wanted to live
@AJ-vt6uh
@AJ-vt6uh Год назад
No Kum-Sok (Kenneth H Rowe) sadly passed away Dec. 26th 2022 may he rest in peace he said he never doubted his decision to defect. RIP
@Stumpy7191
@Stumpy7191 3 года назад
This channel feels just like how the history channel “use to be” before it lost its credibility! Definitely one of my favorites to watch!
@covecove5978
@covecove5978 3 года назад
LOL History Channel? Surely you mean the Pawn stars and American Pickers Channel!!
@williamshoffstall3902
@williamshoffstall3902 3 года назад
Hell yeh Stumpy!! Modern Marvel's & Dangerous Missions 😎
@jacksonganuelas2858
@jacksonganuelas2858 3 года назад
Then you are dumb
@Gabeasher699
@Gabeasher699 3 года назад
Agreed this channel is awesome! I’m hooked!
@akonagi6669
@akonagi6669 3 года назад
Lol histry
@dumoulin11
@dumoulin11 3 года назад
Can you imagine being one of those engineers who got to disassemble the first captured MiG?
@caboose8001
@caboose8001 3 года назад
The feeling that the Chinese felt every time when they got stolen aircraft parts from the US 😂
@caboose8001
@caboose8001 3 года назад
@JR 1986 But truthful.
@knightofwind2929
@knightofwind2929 3 года назад
Imagine the engineers who got to work first on UFO, that's shocking
@AndyBonesSynthPro
@AndyBonesSynthPro 3 года назад
"Goddammit... anyone have a flathead screwdriver?"
@NotTrustedSource
@NotTrustedSource 3 года назад
@JR 1986 why would it be poorly made junk? you have no clue bud
@Ryanralston07
@Ryanralston07 3 года назад
My grandfather (now passed away) served at the Air Force base where the mig pilot defected and landed. I remember hearing his side of the story, which was one of his favorite stories from his years in the Air Force. He was the first person to reach the plane on the runway. The pilot of the Mig wrote a book about the experience and even mentioned my grandfather in his book. It’s great to hear the bigger story behind the story I grew up hearing. Neat!
@bf1255
@bf1255 Год назад
My father was hanging out on the flight line when it happened, was also one of his favorite stories to tell
@roughrider4048
@roughrider4048 Год назад
Please mention the name of the book.
@bakul1889
@bakul1889 3 года назад
Intresting thing about Polish pilot escape is that he escaped in the Day of Stalin's death.
@FastFoxx82
@FastFoxx82 3 года назад
Saw college bills never to be paid.... "About that 20 year old check" lol
@alexgibbs356
@alexgibbs356 3 года назад
@J CC the credit system we have built is there to keep everyone who takes advantage of it to remain under the federal governments financial thumb. Nothing more Education does not, and never has, equalled success. Hard work and good decision making are birth rights, not learned or gained. People can be born into nothing and still make something of themselves and some people can be born into success and still end up failing, whether by happen stance or destiny. The only thing college gives you nowadays is the piece of paper confirming you under stood your classes, that's all, and we pay for the delinquents, the drop outs, the partners, etc.. the very small percentage who actually use college correctly(through GPA scholarships or what have you) end up successful because they were going to make it no matter what, but now they have the piece of paper that confirms they know molecular biology, so its easier. System is fucked.
@dylanparker8623
@dylanparker8623 3 года назад
I love watching these when they pop up
@CHRISROYALSCHIEFSFAN
@CHRISROYALSCHIEFSFAN 3 года назад
Ditto, dark channels are the best
@HeLpEr4u083
@HeLpEr4u083 3 года назад
@Shaun Twed87 Simple History, over Simplified, SGT. Vittie and more.
@chrisburke624
@chrisburke624 3 года назад
Agreed. Really has become my favourite series of channels ☺️👍🏻
@ceelam212
@ceelam212 3 года назад
@@HeLpEr4u083 and old extra history now extra credits is really good
@joshs1555
@joshs1555 3 года назад
10 minute documentarys are perfect for my ADD .
@flukeman022
@flukeman022 3 года назад
Sad for his comrades and family members suddenly disappear.
@SamFBM
@SamFBM 3 года назад
north korea for you , sickening place and still is today
@Go4Broke247
@Go4Broke247 3 года назад
Damn.... That's sad.
@johneyon5257
@johneyon5257 3 года назад
Noh couldn't help but reveal his hopes and plans to his closest friend - who predicted that he would be executed if Noh carried out his plan - Noh received word that his friend was indeed executed ( "The Great Leader and the Fighter Pilot" by Blaine Harden) - Noh shoulda kept his mouth shut - he should have known better
@flukeman022
@flukeman022 3 года назад
@@johneyon5257 would it made any difference if he didn't tell anyone? How did North Korean authorities know his friend knew about Noh's plan?
@johneyon5257
@johneyon5257 3 года назад
@@flukeman022 - the death of the others in his group suggests the North Koreans were punishing others just for being part of the Noh's group - maybe they were officers - or maybe they were the other pilots that flew unawares with him when he escaped as for his friend - they were known to be friends - and the officials might assume he knew even if he didn't - i blame that on Noh - he might have distanced himself enuf to prevent that assumption - if the NKoreans executed someone who only looked like he was friendly with Noh - then that's on them
@damnits2200
@damnits2200 3 года назад
“Lieutenant No Kum Suk” Hehe
@Flumstead
@Flumstead 3 года назад
Yes.....couldn't resist.
@richspillman4191
@richspillman4191 3 года назад
The reward was not enough compensation for that name. He thought it meant "everyone point n laugh!".
@81jorge
@81jorge 3 года назад
I had to rewind to make sure that was his name. Lmfao!
@richspillman4191
@richspillman4191 3 года назад
@@81jorge I asked my dad if he remembered the story and what the guys name was, but couldn't keep a straight face for the punchline so I made him read it off my phone with my daughter in the next room... "Wait, WHAT?"
@dx1450
@dx1450 3 года назад
I actually knew an Asian lady who's name was Mi Suk.
@podgee7507
@podgee7507 3 года назад
You just can't trust politicians or anybody in the government.
@ramonjr.ancheta4022
@ramonjr.ancheta4022 3 года назад
Its business no one can tolerate it. The most hardest part.
@RDDPro
@RDDPro 3 года назад
Be this historically accurate then we didn't treat this young man or his family too well.
@Mercy384
@Mercy384 Год назад
@Chris f! he sacrifices his family
@DPryce
@DPryce 3 года назад
"I dunno guys, paying him seems a little unethical, let's just swindle him instead" -Eisenhower
@evanpimental
@evanpimental 3 года назад
Sad but true. And a hilarious way of looking at it. 😂😂😂
@Phildo8
@Phildo8 3 года назад
This is the only channel(s) I have alerts set for! Dark Docs, Dark Skies, Dark Footage, Dark 5, etc. I absolutely love these videos!
@MRx36000
@MRx36000 3 года назад
Feels bad for his family and friend... They paid for his. What an horrible way to ensure loyalty and make sure nobody tries this ever again --" I wonder if he knew his actions would doom people close to him...
@kane3825
@kane3825 3 года назад
Same for soviet russia, if someone escaped u knew that ur family is at risk, so u didnt hesitate leaving it
@bradenatkinson6401
@bradenatkinson6401 3 года назад
oh yeah, thats how every brutal dictatorships works. heres an interview with an NK ambassador talking about this very thing. they (him his family, colleagues, etc) knew how much better the west is but they couldnt even talk about to their families because they can never know who will talk. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xGVc5ex6RiQ.html
@z0phi3l
@z0phi3l 3 года назад
Not much has changed, the Democrats are doing pretty much the same, just without the murders, yet
@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88
@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88 3 года назад
@@z0phi3l Once they come to light, as these things always do, will you blame the Demonicunts for trumpski's transgressions and crimes against the United States?
@z0phi3l
@z0phi3l 3 года назад
@@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88 Like what? All I've heard about are the debunked lies, the Dems have been spreading, still waiting on some real information
@buckeyeman7631
@buckeyeman7631 3 года назад
This channel just repeatedly gives us awesome content!
@adamfrazer5150
@adamfrazer5150 3 года назад
Hmmm, based on what I've learned of Mark Clark, you'd need a whole flock of MiG's just to get his ego airborne...
@makeracistsafraidagain
@makeracistsafraidagain 3 года назад
These people understood that freedom is more valuable than money.
@user-ru9wf4yx7r
@user-ru9wf4yx7r 3 года назад
Are you a joke?
@emiliangradinaru1340
@emiliangradinaru1340 3 года назад
@@user-ru9wf4yx7r how?
@cristiangarces5832
@cristiangarces5832 3 года назад
0:05 (...)"the mig 15" (...) Video of a La-15 Bruh xd
@dillonhunt1720
@dillonhunt1720 3 года назад
Public service announcement: Don't ever make a drinking game out of watching a Dark Docs playlist and taking a shot every time he gets something incorrect. You will die.
@keyaw.9132
@keyaw.9132 3 года назад
@@dillonhunt1720 ok buddy petard
@JohnDoe-vf2yo
@JohnDoe-vf2yo 3 года назад
@@dillonhunt1720 Like the time he said the Ekranoplan was a hovercraft! 😂😂
@mihneab9027
@mihneab9027 3 года назад
Tbh it is hard to see that on the tape, i mean yea it looks a lot l like a LA but still there is a chance that is a mig
@sa80slayer85
@sa80slayer85 3 года назад
@@mihneab9027 no its a LA
@andreibogorodski288
@andreibogorodski288 3 года назад
US: The Sabre is technologically superior to the Mig also US: The mig was faster and more maneuver and was better equipped also US: we will give 100k$ to any pilot that will give us the Mig also US: we lied, there is no money Murika at its finest
@elitecassidy8258
@elitecassidy8258 3 года назад
How does your first part even make sense? Aren’t they both just facts?
@Shantykoff
@Shantykoff 3 года назад
@Doom soviet tanks are another story, soviets had full technological superiority.
@Native_love
@Native_love 3 года назад
The USA provided millions in food and equipment in WW2. WE ARE ALL BROTHERS!
@johnwilson2338
@johnwilson2338 3 года назад
I enjoy your work and multiple channels. And as I love most things involving history, weapons and military stuff, you tend to deliver all of those things frequently! 👍
@Scatpack21
@Scatpack21 3 года назад
Nothing new. The US offered a million dollars for the first Japanese Zero and for the first Mig 25. Both were brought in by enemy pilots. Interesting story about how the US sent in 2 of Chenault's pilots to steal a couple. Those pilots eventually started Flying Tiger airlines, which specialized in third world operations and cargo.
@UHK-Reaper
@UHK-Reaper 3 года назад
In the Air Force I knew a Msgt who's father was a crew chief on this plane. Had pictures of his father with Mig on his desk. And if he's anything like his son no wonder they chose him to be the crew chief because he was an amazing troop, like the kind of leader everyone looks up to and wants to be.
@xmassan20906
@xmassan20906 3 года назад
9:33 Pyle! Take the leaflets out of the box, then throw...
@jasonlando9711
@jasonlando9711 3 года назад
Another great video. Eisenhower always had a problem with his "ethics"
@geoh7777
@geoh7777 3 года назад
He saw no problem with obeying the soviets' insistence that all Russian soldiers escaping westward to the European countries after the end of WWII should be returned, although knowing they would be shot. American GIs got upset enough with this that they started disobeying Eisenhower's sick order.
@gortnewton4765
@gortnewton4765 3 года назад
Eisenhower was the subject of a book about how he treated prisoners of war (Germans mainly) following end of WW2. Starved to death approximately 200,000 of them. Read the book.
@sta1RR
@sta1RR 3 года назад
He doesnt mind getting a defected mig, just paying for it after getting it , classic, as they were trying to not pay.
@MayimHastings
@MayimHastings 3 года назад
@@gortnewton4765 😧Wow. Do you remember the name of the book by chance? I’d like to read that one. ✌️
@gortnewton4765
@gortnewton4765 3 года назад
@@MayimHastings Go here for a description and title. Fascinating book. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_Losses
@liamarmstrong1836
@liamarmstrong1836 3 года назад
“The Saber was technologically superior. But was losing to the MiG 15 which was faster, more maneuverable, and better armed.” Excuse me, but how was the Saber “technically superior?”
@kmit9191
@kmit9191 3 года назад
maybe referring to electronic systems
@aeromodeller1
@aeromodeller1 3 года назад
Better gunsight, allowed accurate aiming at greater distance. Reputed to have a 10:1 kill ratio over the Mig 15, later revised down to 5:1 and again to 2:1.
@1985_Honda_CRX_Si
@1985_Honda_CRX_Si 3 года назад
"technologically" is not the same as "technically"
@ZerokillerOppel1
@ZerokillerOppel1 3 года назад
Complaining about ergonomics or something as trivial as a heater is Gulag material...
@iowasucks9494
@iowasucks9494 3 года назад
@@ZerokillerOppel1 you do realize it gets to negative 20 degrees Fahrenheit in a closed pressurized cockpit with no ecs right?
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 3 года назад
thanks
@lanehale5669
@lanehale5669 3 года назад
Dang you make your way around youtube just like the rest of us gun nuts 🤟🏼
@ramennoodleshaawty
@ramennoodleshaawty 3 года назад
@@lanehale5669 what I was thinking 😂😂
@trentweston8306
@trentweston8306 3 года назад
Each time I see you comment here I think, Hey I know that guy hahaha (I liked your review of the Radical firearms AR-15 it will be my first AR at some point)
@Tomathey75
@Tomathey75 3 года назад
How the hell aren't you verified?
@kenttheboomer721
@kenttheboomer721 3 года назад
In 1954 No Kum Suk emigrated to the US and Anglicized his name to Kenneth H. Rowe. Uh, yeah.........
@notmenotme614
@notmenotme614 3 года назад
0:38 The defector wouldn’t be killed or injured but well paid: Unethical Invading the Middle East, arming terrorists to overthrow governments and installing a puppet: Thats ok
@notmenotme614
@notmenotme614 3 года назад
@Charles Yuditsky how was Iraq a threat to the average person living in some sleepy town in the US? Did Saddam Hussain even give a shit about Des Moines, Iowa ? How many times has the Iraq Republican Guard invaded Idaho?
@demonicusa.k.a.theblindguy3929
@demonicusa.k.a.theblindguy3929 2 года назад
One of my art teachers in high school was at said Air Force base when this mig landed. He brought in pictures and let me borrow them to photocopy of the mig. By the time he got down to where it was parked the North Korean coat of arms had already been removed.
@mikesmith-wk7vy
@mikesmith-wk7vy 3 года назад
the mig 15 was possibly the most influential and best jet the soviets made especially for its time it was practically untouchable , widely exported, practical i guess the mig 25 and 29 were good too but the 15 dominated even in Vietnam it was useful. it was probably the best sub-sonic fighter jet ever
@Markle2k
@Markle2k 3 года назад
Practically untouchable, if by that you mean: lost most head-to-head confrontations with Sabres by about 7:1. Forced to dive, they were mach-limited by not having an all-flying tail. MiG-15s had several exploitable fatal flaws that weren't fixed until the MiG-19. In Vietnam, they were sitting ducks. The MiG-25 was a missile platform and an absolute pig to fly with a maximum g-load rating inferior to a 737. The MiG-29 was the first Soviet fighter to fulfill the dictum "if it looks good, it should fly good".
@sergeychmelev5270
@sergeychmelev5270 3 года назад
@@Markle2k The 7:1 ratio has repeatedly been proven to be false. Here are a few facts: - Given the number of Sabres lost this means there were about 800 MiG-15s shut down, which is practically all the MiG-15s participated in Korean war. - MiG-15s were prohibited from flying over the enemy territory. That means pretty much none of the victories over MiG-15s could be confirmed by the ground forces. Those tiny .50 cals would often inflict just minor damage to MiGs, whereas even a single 37mm shell hitting a Sabre would leave it no chance of surviving. - The primary objective of MiG-15s in Korea was the point-defense against bombers, not hunting the fighters. - About 60% of the MiG-15s were flown by the Chinese pilots who had pretty much no prior combat experience, unlike the Soviets led by the most decorated soviet ace of the WW2 (62 kills). - The top 3 aces of Korean war are Soviet. It's even funny that Western sources credit some of them with more kills than official Soviets themselves (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Korean_War_flying_aces) A recent RAND report made reference to "recent scholarship" of F-86 v MiG-15 combat over Korea and concluded that the actual kill:loss ratio for the F-86 was 1.8:1 overall, and likely closer to 1.3:1 against MiGs flown by Soviet pilots.
@mikesmith-wk7vy
@mikesmith-wk7vy 3 года назад
@@Markle2k you're right by Vietnam the 15 was outdated the only reason the thunderjet and sabre were able to tackle the mig 15 and win was our modern gun-sight and very skilled pilots the mig could out climb out turn the sabre and the mig 25 was not a fighter it was good because it would fly at mach 3.3 at 70-100 thousand feet nothing but the a12 and sr71 would come close to that and it had a radar that was more like the f22 and f35 in capability tracking and engaging 10 targets at multiple angles we had nothing that could do that until now
@anthonysantiago1999
@anthonysantiago1999 2 года назад
You mean the MIG-17 in the Vietnam war and it wasn't dominant..
@jasonrowland1584
@jasonrowland1584 3 года назад
Friends and family ”disappeared”. Who would you sacrifice for your freedom?
@jamesrogers4674
@jamesrogers4674 3 года назад
I would sacrifice all Democrats for my freedom.
@johneyon5257
@johneyon5257 3 года назад
to think that countless people have had to face that choice over the course of history - one thing to remember - that execution or punishment is not absolute in North Korea - even now - families of defectors are not necessarily brutalized - they will almost certainly lose status - but not necessarily more - the defector who gets caught - they suffer alot
@FoRmaTiTo
@FoRmaTiTo 3 года назад
Love the narration, he has a riveting way of talking
@jediskywalker356
@jediskywalker356 3 года назад
Sometimes he talks a lil too fast, but yea
@johneyon5257
@johneyon5257 3 года назад
@@jediskywalker356 - you can adjust the speed of the playback in the settings - the little wheel next to the "cc" button
@1nikg
@1nikg 3 года назад
@@johneyon5257 hey u learn something new every day. Cheers
@RicktheCrofter
@RicktheCrofter 3 года назад
Sounds like Rob Lowe. Is it?
@maverick29er10
@maverick29er10 3 года назад
Well now we need a mig15 American premium aircraft
@moistygg
@moistygg 3 года назад
German tech tree is the best smh I mean you can have a mig 21 and a 104 starfighter and g91
@maverick29er10
@maverick29er10 3 года назад
@@moistygg but I can't grind past, I mean I don't have the al , the repair costs overtake 10kills, even if I get a good4kills in rb I still drown in repair cost, I'm at tier 3, with a d13
@RadoX_
@RadoX_ 3 года назад
@@maverick29er10 Buy Ju 288C, it will make your grind much easier, and you`ll earn good amount of SL.
@Ey_SmoKrac
@Ey_SmoKrac 3 года назад
haha war thunder reference
@RickyMontijo
@RickyMontijo 3 года назад
Eisenhower thought it was unethical to pay a defector... so they came up with a super ethical plan to screw him out of it🤣🤣🤣
@ricknelson4764
@ricknelson4764 3 года назад
In 1970 (or 1971) my father was deputy sheriff in the small southern Idaho Homedale. A Military jet crashed in a farmers field. I was with him in his patrol car that day and we immediately headed to the site. I was told to stay in the car but could clearly see the red star on the tail. Later that afternoon my father told me that it was a stolen mig from Vietnam. The next day we got a visit from Air Force officers and were told that it never happened and to forget that he had responded to the call. I was 9 or 10 when this "didn't happen" and to this day I have not heard another word about it. As a side note I can only guess that it was being flown from another U.S. base to an Air Force base about 75 miles from the crash site.
@Prussian7789
@Prussian7789 3 года назад
Mark Felton and this channel are my favorite go to channels for anything history
@watchthisspacecarchannel6523
@watchthisspacecarchannel6523 3 года назад
My father flew the Mig 15,s for the Polish Air Force, when I was very young he told me the story of how he was sent up to intercept the defecting pilot as they had strict boundaries to fly within and they knew Colonel was making a run for it, My father told me he had the Mig in his sights but didn’t try shooting the Colonel down, claiming he couldn’t see him due to heavy cloud cover, since the base feared my father defecting as well they ordered him to return
@aarayskirata3420
@aarayskirata3420 3 года назад
whoa, that is cool
@cristobalalvarez5491
@cristobalalvarez5491 3 года назад
Huh sure
@GZA036
@GZA036 3 года назад
I remember this mission in Chuck Yeager's Air Combat.
@dontnod8306
@dontnod8306 3 года назад
Same, and being shot at all the way till stopped on runway and mission ended.
@adamfrazer5150
@adamfrazer5150 3 года назад
I've been binging on Dark so much that every time I crack open my book, I hear your voice reading it 😐
@benhah2823
@benhah2823 3 года назад
Did the same thing today
@Pau_Pau9
@Pau_Pau9 3 года назад
You must be a fast reader too!
@adamfrazer5150
@adamfrazer5150 3 года назад
@@Pau_Pau9 hahaha ! Man that is the perfect inside joke, nicely done man, put a smile on my face 👍🍻
@colinboone9920
@colinboone9920 3 года назад
Bruh he showed the LA-15 in the beginning 🤣
@peterlenihan5712
@peterlenihan5712 3 года назад
How can you tell? All commie planes just look like targets to me
@Cuptow
@Cuptow 3 года назад
I'd guess Warthunder, flight sim
@hannorasmusholtiegel6044
@hannorasmusholtiegel6044 3 года назад
All jets with the jet engines build directly in to their body look so cool.
@trycoldman2358
@trycoldman2358 3 года назад
Man that red circle on the thumbnail really is a mystery! Also the arrow really mysterious.
@stevendonovan9762
@stevendonovan9762 3 года назад
Chuck Yeager on Twitter... Q: Did MIG-15 fly anything like F-86-there were copy-cat rumors A: No. MiG-15 didn't have flying tail so could not go supersonic. Later models of F-86 could. So when I test flew MiG-15 in S. Korea during Korean War, I could only get it to .94
@PeterMayer
@PeterMayer 3 года назад
And this week 15 is up at Wright-Patterson air Force museum in Dayton. I live in Cincinnati and seen it many times.
@Hemuliboss
@Hemuliboss 3 года назад
Very intresting. Just a little bit slower, we are not in a hurry. We are enjoying voice-over on very intresting topic about history, by very enjoyable voice. Thank you, Darkdocs.
@claydouglas2526
@claydouglas2526 3 года назад
Use 0.75 speed
@downloadgoblin
@downloadgoblin 3 года назад
6:30 *That name though*
@insertdeadmemehere9397
@insertdeadmemehere9397 3 года назад
Lol
@virtualmarmite819
@virtualmarmite819 3 года назад
Err is the narrator of this channel going for a world record of number of words spoken in a short doc?
@King_reretard
@King_reretard 3 года назад
After I get off work he always has a new video its like my therapy after a long day of building houses
@Davethreshold
@Davethreshold 3 года назад
I LOVE your channel here, but I would not widen all of the 4/3 aspect ratio material that you use. It makes everything quite a bit wider than they really are. The Earth looks radically elliptical for example.
@jamesmatticks70
@jamesmatticks70 3 года назад
About that “faster than an F86... Length: 10.6m (35ft) Wingspan: 10m (33ft) Max speed: 1,078Km/h (670mph) Ceiling: 15,545 (51,000ft) Range: 1770 (1,100 miles) Operations: Flying almost unannounced out of the iron curtain, the MiG-15 was used primarily to shoot down US bombers such as the B-29 Superfortress. Weapons: Favouring a multi-cannon armament, the MiG-15 had two 23mm cannons, one 37mm cannon and either a 2 x 220lb bomb load or unguided rockets. Longevity: The first of the jet engined MiG’s to enter mass production, the MiG-15 was a pioneer for jet aircraft and has spawned many upgrades with the current fighter of choice, the MiG-35 a descendant. Performance: The MiG had a better climbing rate and a higher ceiling than the F-86 and could also turn more sharply. F-86 Sabre specs: Head to Head: MiG-15 vs F-86 Sabre Length: 12.29m (40ft) Wingspan: 11.3m (37ft) Max speed: 1,137km/h (707mph) Ceiling: 16,642m (34,600ft) Range: 1,345km (835 miles) Operations: The Sabre was designed as a direct response to the MiG-15 that was causing havoc in the Korean skies. Flown by WW2 veterans, they were moderately successful in hunting down and intercepting the MiG-15’s. Weapons: 6 x .50 cal machine guns as well as 2x 1000lbs bombs, air-to-ground rockets and napalm canisters. Longevity: Rushed into production, the Sabre became outdated quickly but it was an important template for the future and was only retired completely in 1994. Performance: Despite being inferior on paper, the F-86 duelled with the Mig’s over ‘MiG alley’ and the first jet engined dogfights were generally vey equal.
@unitedwestand5100
@unitedwestand5100 3 года назад
The kill ratio of the F86 over the Mig15 was 5.6 to 1. And the Sabre was not allowed to pursue into Chinese airspace where all the Migs were based.
@ollie5286
@ollie5286 3 года назад
Awesome content caught this early
@notinspectorgadget
@notinspectorgadget 3 года назад
Operation: Give A Shitton Of Money For An Enemy Plane. and it *worked*
@laksamanasuhendra5868
@laksamanasuhendra5868 3 года назад
Operation: give a shitton of money and not give it when mission is done
@notinspectorgadget
@notinspectorgadget 3 года назад
@@laksamanasuhendra5868 operation Indian giver
@Fernando5455Jr
@Fernando5455Jr 3 года назад
It’s a goddamn MIG! Surprised Pikachu face
@meshif86
@meshif86 3 года назад
Great voice and style of narration. Perfectly matched with the content
@revolutionday1
@revolutionday1 3 года назад
Heh. Yeah, no. Not even a little bit. Sounds like he's always in a rush to go take a piss or something.
@reallybadaim118
@reallybadaim118 3 года назад
Eisenhower found that unethical? Wonder What he would think about today.
@bobwehner7881
@bobwehner7881 3 года назад
This may have been a consistent US policy. When I was in Seoul in the mid-1980s, a Mig-25(?) pilot defected and landed at Kimpo.
@andrewrice4513
@andrewrice4513 3 года назад
Nope. Never happened. The only MiG 25 defection happenec in 1976 when Victor Belenko flew his jet to Japan. Google is your friend.
@bobwehner7881
@bobwehner7881 3 года назад
@@andrewrice4513 Good catch! Must have been one of the Chinese defectors. I recall talk of a Taiwan reward.
@johneyon5257
@johneyon5257 3 года назад
i think many countries do reward defectors with valuable machinery or plans by default
@johneyon5257
@johneyon5257 3 года назад
@Susan Ananda - nor did i make any promises - thru out history - spies have approached gov'ts with offers - for a price - they have been turned down - but many have been paid - a recent military high-tech hardware from a country's top enemy would probably be paid for too - unlike Operation Moolah - there are no announcements - no committees with plans - these offers are considered on a case by case basis interestingly - in Noh's case - that didn't apply - Noh didn't know about the reward - he showed up with no real intention for the plane - his intention was to ask for asylum in order to gain freedom - the money was a surprise
@__Hamlet__
@__Hamlet__ 3 года назад
0:38 "President Eisenhower saw the campaign as unethical" Oh how times have changed. . . .
@2roti
@2roti 3 года назад
i think the speed of voce it's a little to fast , love this channel and i "watch" all the promo or spots, at least for now this is the only way to "support" this great channel. Thanks!
@johneyon5257
@johneyon5257 3 года назад
you can adjust the speed of the playback in the settings - the little wheel next to the "cc" button
@revolutionday1
@revolutionday1 3 года назад
@@johneyon5257 .....or the dude could just not do these videos at Alvin & The Chipmunks speed.
@johneyon5257
@johneyon5257 3 года назад
@@revolutionday1 - why - to accommodate you? - i had no problem with keeping up with the narrator - and - as you can judge from the comments - most were able too - it's a choice he will have to make - so register your complaint - but don't expect him to comply since he has fans of his narrative style
@Jbarb777
@Jbarb777 3 года назад
How is this channel free?? 10/10 content!
@rakeshkamath1
@rakeshkamath1 3 года назад
Dark Docs, always give the thrilling war documentaries. Kudos to the team.
@joesillamanrs7189
@joesillamanrs7189 3 года назад
Brave man for defecting. Glad the US paid him what he was due. Wonder if he knew he had forsaken his family and friend though...so sad.
@JohnUllrey
@JohnUllrey 3 года назад
The reason the MiG-15 was so good was because it was based on a German Focke-Wulf designed late in WWII.
@skyden24195
@skyden24195 3 года назад
Proof that there are people that understand "money = evil" & "freedom = opportunity."
@jacksonganuelas2858
@jacksonganuelas2858 3 года назад
Has to be AT LEAST 1 second longer than 10 mins to make money. Gosh I wish I never clicked on this. Should checked.
@jacksonganuelas2858
@jacksonganuelas2858 3 года назад
Shoulda*
@TheGrannyMuncher
@TheGrannyMuncher 3 года назад
1:13 migdonalds
@Phildo8
@Phildo8 3 года назад
I have heard bits & pieces about Operation Moolah but I wasn’t aware that they not only offered the $100,000.00($3.3-$3.5 in today’s money), Freedom for life in The US of course but I was not aware the US also said they would WAIVE ANY & ALL TAXES THE REST OF HIS LIFE!!!??? I learn so much just watching these docs! I’d LOVE to see a long 30-60min Dark Docs video on say Magellan TV or anywhere else! Finding the topic would be the tricky part bc while there’s a ton of options to choose it would have to be “the right one” to research, gather photos, footage, then voice over & add it all together! Although the narrator’s face has never been seen (at least I haven’t) the way he narrates is FKN FANTASTIC! Don’t get me wrong the regular Dark Docs videos are great as well & they’re PACKED FULL OF TONS OF FACTUAL INFORMATION & AUTHENTIC FOOTAGE! The narrator & seeing his face is just me wanting to put a face with the voice I’ve listened to for years now!
@josephliptak
@josephliptak 2 года назад
Love the history this channel shares.
@CottonFist
@CottonFist 3 года назад
Wow they even culled his fellow pilots, as well as his family. A strong message to future defectors...
@FSX404
@FSX404 3 года назад
MiG15 was only more maneuverable than F86 at high altitudes, anything below 20,000 feet and F86 was more maneuverable. But the MiG15 was slightly faster, so a MiG pilot could technically disengage and run away if in a bad position. Having said all this, Korean air war was a bit different anyways, MiGs always came in packs, either hit and run or defensive wheel flying
@revolutionday1
@revolutionday1 3 года назад
This dude's rushed, frantic narration drives me insane.
@abjectt5440
@abjectt5440 3 года назад
I agree. I'm hard of hearing and the narrator has enough time to slow down.
@zero-se7ug
@zero-se7ug 3 года назад
ikr its so annoying
@ghpjerry
@ghpjerry 3 года назад
@Terry Hesticles Right?? It sounds like Tom Green.
@ntabile
@ntabile 3 года назад
That is why I mute his narration and just turn on the close caption. Better still select the speed 1x slower.
@sd906238
@sd906238 3 года назад
Dropping leaflets over North Korea. Videos shows crewmen throwing out a whole box. Maybe that is why nobody saw any of the leaflets unless the box of leaflets landed on their head.
@adamradziwill
@adamradziwill 3 года назад
guys come on, the US pilots said "MiG-15 is inferior to Sabras "
@owenmccaffrey5777
@owenmccaffrey5777 3 года назад
This Mig is actually on display at the War Museum in Seoul. With a plaque.
@lazycrocc6715
@lazycrocc6715 3 года назад
WOAAAA LA-15 footage at the start!? I’ve never seen La15 films before
@larrysorenson4789
@larrysorenson4789 3 года назад
Captain Manny “Pete” Fernandez should have been the #1 Ace of the Korean War. He was pulled for a PR drive and another exceeded his record before the wars end. Pete entered CIA Ops in 1957. Based out of Miami his cover was a drug smuggling operation. He became a favorite of the Brazilian Air Force who commissioned him into their own Air Force. While there he managed to steal two Russian airplanes and deliver them to the US. He should be honored as a great military hero but his untimely Death in a South American drug operation plane crash prevented that. Ask yourself this question: Why was he buried in Arlington with full military Honors. He was our neighbor at Edwards Air Force Base in California and my childhood hero. May he Rest In Peace.
@alfonsobajado
@alfonsobajado 3 года назад
1:18 1:27 my guy really just contradicted himself real quick
@jstone8513
@jstone8513 3 года назад
It can be the most advanced technology wise but still lose
@SangheiliSpecOp
@SangheiliSpecOp 3 года назад
Haha so i wasn't the only one going... "huh?"
@tomtom4405
@tomtom4405 3 года назад
The idea of buying enemy technology dates back at least as early as WW2 where UK attempted to "buy" a German U boat and enigma codebooks
@fivenine5905
@fivenine5905 3 года назад
while the f86 was technologically superior. but the mig 15 did everything a fighter should do. better!! righto
@Markle2k
@Markle2k 3 года назад
Except win. MiG-15s had several exploitable fatal flaws and poorly trained pilots that didn't always know how to avoid being forced into those situations.
@fivenine5905
@fivenine5905 3 года назад
@@Markle2k thats the pilots, not the better aircraft ;)
@Markle2k
@Markle2k 3 года назад
@@fivenine5905 The most amazing ace in a P--51 would be mincemeat for a MiG-15. The first American shot down in Korea was one. The first MiG-15 shot down was gotten by an F-80, a totally outclassed first-gen jet fighter. MiG-15s were faster than F-86As in level flight and in a climb, but they were Mach-limited by their fixed horizontal stabilizer, something the F-86 didn't have a problem with. Force a MiG into a dive, and he's a dead man. The MiG-15 had an automatic speed brake to limit its speed to 0.88 Mach. It was a death sentence to exceed that Mach, and easily exploitable by an F-86 pilot. MiGs also had this really nasty problem with their fuel tanks that would cause them to implode. BTW, the F-86F's more powerful engine eliminated all the MiG's advantages.
@siebs888
@siebs888 3 года назад
Another banger; keep it up and thanks for the content!
@dc.tm28
@dc.tm28 3 года назад
Moolah sounds like "don't know" or "I don't know" in Korean
@who_tf_stole_my_name
@who_tf_stole_my_name 3 года назад
Introduces the MiG 15 0:07 seconds in *SHOWS AN LA-15*
@mjohnsimon1337
@mjohnsimon1337 3 года назад
No is actually still alive and lives in Pensacola Florida if I remember correctly. He really didn't know about the money and thought the whole thing was propaganda until he realized that there were people who were genuinely willing to give him the money.
@bioophazard428
@bioophazard428 3 года назад
Good job keep up the great work
@oscarriquezes9650
@oscarriquezes9650 2 года назад
Freedom is more important than money.
@Contact_Info
@Contact_Info 3 года назад
25, 25, 25, 25, do we have 35? 35 35 35 35 35, 40, 40, 40, 40, 45 45 45 45.... 45 to the man with the blue hat. Do we have 50? 50 50 50 50? Going once, going twice, going three time, Sold! to the man with the blue hat .
@davidluna8372
@davidluna8372 3 года назад
Outstanding video report . Thanks for revealing the whole truth of this historical event . Good job !
@otpyrcralphpierre1742
@otpyrcralphpierre1742 3 года назад
Freedom....more rewarding than Money.
@bradyelich2745
@bradyelich2745 3 года назад
I start video, popup says "Firefox is playing me" (from Firefox browser - best named browser IMO) as in Firefox (the plane from movie) is "playin'" me , shows f-86.
@thepawchoe2749
@thepawchoe2749 3 года назад
Smart man. Don't ever take the money. That's how politicians are swayed
@jacques9996
@jacques9996 3 года назад
Should’ve just bought off warstock
@TheDHGP
@TheDHGP 3 года назад
Hey there. Been a Day-1 guy for DD, still waiting for you to cover the Infamous Unit 731/ Japanese Human Experimental Group. Please, for the love of all that is Dark Docs, cover this one.
@dx1450
@dx1450 3 года назад
This was an episode of M*A*S*H. A North Korean pilot suffered a flameout and put his MiG down in South Korea and was being treated at the 4077th. An officer told the pilot using a South Korean interpreter that he would be awarded money for defecting, but he didn't want to defect and preferred to be a POW than to go to the U.S. But the interpreter wanted to go to the U.S., so they ended up using him in place of the actual North Korean pilot.
@davidponseigo8811
@davidponseigo8811 4 месяца назад
My father in law shot down a Mig-15 in Vietnam with the very first Naval Surface to Air missile with a Talos Missile from the USS Long Beach and again another from the USS Chicago.
@superfluous9726
@superfluous9726 3 года назад
8:12 That's a fucking power move. "Hey want your plane back we have no more use of it?????"
@iDropPhats
@iDropPhats 3 года назад
Well damn I’m a Maryland resident and often frequent the shore and that’s crazy that UD hosted this guy as a student! No wonder he went on to become a genius, he was probably so inspired by the whole ordeal and went into Bill Gates mode.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 3 года назад
I wonder if the film Firefox starring Clint Eastwood used this story as the basis of the film.. its a great film
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