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the Zann Consortium accomplished a lot, including boarding the Eclipse and finding a Sith army, but they disappeared mysteriously and we're gonna talk about why.
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@deadshot5007
@deadshot5007 4 года назад
I really hoped we got a sequel to the consortium story
@jonahstirbis3408
@jonahstirbis3408 4 года назад
We all wanted to see this Sith army plot play out!
@cherrybomby6355
@cherrybomby6355 Год назад
Me to bud, and a EaW 2
@tjtruejustice5277
@tjtruejustice5277 4 года назад
Perhaps Tyber and friends actually decided to retire after Kuat. They just got rich so why risk their lives running crimminal organizations when they can go live in some palace on a backwater world? That would explain why they weren't heard again. Of course he would probably find that boring or something.
@ianscultgaming3601
@ianscultgaming3601 4 года назад
He wanted to rule the galaxy though right?
@HolyknightVader999
@HolyknightVader999 4 года назад
Dude just bought a senator and lived off their wealth.
@johnnygyro2295
@johnnygyro2295 3 года назад
@@ianscultgaming3601 Not out in the open. In Zann's eyes Palpatine put a big target on his back between declaring himself Galactic Emperor and having a reliance on superweapons.
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 2 года назад
@@ianscultgaming3601 Yeah But When You Get THAT Rich, Your Mind May Change
@HonestObserver
@HonestObserver 9 месяцев назад
@@ianscultgaming3601he wanted to corrupt the Galaxy
@TheAquarius87
@TheAquarius87 4 года назад
Timothy Zahn... Tyber Zann... I see what they did there :) This expansion was amazing! One of the best Star Wars games I've played. Thrawn was easily my favorite part. You dont beat him, you survive him!
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 2 года назад
Me Beating The Sh*t Out Of Thrawn With B-Wing Spam: *Suuuure*
@georgeginev1207
@georgeginev1207 Год назад
Nice comment!lLike!
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 4 года назад
There's also the chance that when looting the Emperor's Safehouses Tyber ended up as one of the Candles in the Wayland Masoleum when he ran afoul of Joruus.
@heavyarms55
@heavyarms55 4 года назад
I really like this answer!
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 2 года назад
Candles?
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 года назад
@@michaelandreipalon359 Every person who investigated the Wayland storehouse before Thrawn was killed by Joruus and his servants would maintain a memorial candle for each of them.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 2 года назад
Ah, alright. Can't believe I forgot that.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 2 года назад
Say, didn't the vanilla EaW Rebel campaign actually have a Wayland mission involving Raymus Antilles, Artoo, and Threepio?
@johnnygyro2295
@johnnygyro2295 3 года назад
Since the Zann Consortium found the Eclipse it's implied that Dark Empire, or something similar, was going to happen later in this timeline. Because of that, I wouldn't be surprised if Palpatine went after Tyber at some point for robbing his vaults...
@JonatasAdoM
@JonatasAdoM 2 года назад
After the credits, Silri realizes someone forgot to plug the sith warriors and they've all died in suspension. That's why we never hear from them again. How about that for a closing
@implodinggoat
@implodinggoat 4 года назад
It would be fun if Silri and her Sith army turned up in your latest Edge of Despair campaign.
@Tom-yk6hk
@Tom-yk6hk 4 года назад
Love that Datapad background Well done Corey
@Tom-yk6hk
@Tom-yk6hk 4 года назад
Thx for the ♥️
@ACrustyCount
@ACrustyCount 4 года назад
I'm actually going to have the Consortium feature heavily in my RPG I'm running. Hated how they just disappeared in legends
@wolfleader17
@wolfleader17 4 года назад
Loved the game, and Tyber and Urai as characters. Despite only having their day within EAW, it would be nice to see them return in canon in some form. Even just the emblem in the backround somewhere.
@adruvail
@adruvail 4 года назад
The Expanding Fronts mod for Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds adds the Zann Consortium as a playable faction.
@saj2392
@saj2392 4 года назад
What type of Sith Forces were these? Troopers? Force-users? Force-using Troopers? What particular Sith Empire did they come from?
@thesecondromuluan8216
@thesecondromuluan8216 4 года назад
Regular Sith Troopers, originating from Darth Revan's/Malak's Sith Empire, and later the Sith Triumvirate.
@saj2392
@saj2392 4 года назад
@@thesecondromuluan8216 Ah, the Silver Shiny Bois, thanks for letting me know!
@thesecondromuluan8216
@thesecondromuluan8216 4 года назад
@@saj2392 Silver *and* red.
@verzahlerin
@verzahlerin 4 года назад
Love the new effects!
@TheKingofbrooklin
@TheKingofbrooklin Год назад
The only fate of the Sith Army in legends I see is that they went in the end to Byss and helped to build the Dark Empire. That could be a good explanation how Palpatine got so many dark side servants and technology.
@starwars90001
@starwars90001 4 года назад
I think the real reason is that stories from Video games aren't taken seriously by the rest of canon. A lot of video games have stories that have no effect on canon with Kotor and Dark Forces being the exception. I don't think we would ever get an ending to their story.
@janettymojilin9018
@janettymojilin9018 3 года назад
One possibility on the zan continuity is Tyber become a senator and brought pardon from anyone he need to buy it from. Erased his criminal activities record. Then live a happy life. Silri need more time to build her army because it is not in her area of expertise.
@kibecawest9867
@kibecawest9867 2 года назад
“My plans… will not fail”
@redvsbluefan179
@redvsbluefan179 7 месяцев назад
According on what you said, I think Zahn faced Admiral Daala and was executed by her. As for Silri, I think opening the... vault, I guess, she met one of warriors, who was automatically awoken by security system, and he (or she) killed her, but has got critical wounds died right after her without possibility to awake the other sith warriors.
@charles52able1
@charles52able1 2 месяца назад
My head canon is that the Zann Consortium is the pirate nation mentioned by Gorean Shard in the Mandolorian season 3. The consortium would have thrived in the current canon given that the New Republic is apethetic and led by fools. Furthermore the Hutts are in chaos after Jabba's death and the annihilation of Crimson Dawn. As for Silri, I suspect she severely overestimated her powers and influence. Kotor era Sith would not respect her and would likely kill her at the earliest opportunity. This planet could also be Exogol and what Silri found was the Sith Eternal. Either way she's not leaving there alive.
@worldtraveler930
@worldtraveler930 Год назад
ALL Hale the Zann Consortium!!! 🤠👍
@MrBigCookieCrumble
@MrBigCookieCrumble 4 года назад
Man the FoC expansion gave me lots of mixed feelings, while the campaign was great the game balance felt really off to me. It felt like the Empire and Rebel factions had been balanced against each other and then the Consortium was just kinda tacked on there with tons of sUpErCoOl stuff, all of which turned OP, together with the corruption mechanics they felt really .. for lack of better terms "out of place".
@chaosphoenix2838
@chaosphoenix2838 4 года назад
Yeah especially with the agressor and keldabe agressor because of big cannons and keldabe was better armed than an isd in my feelings
@lukestover2207
@lukestover2207 4 года назад
Chaosphoenix 28 True. The Keldabe battleship could easily 1v1 an ISD, unless the ISD has bomber support.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 2 года назад
Yeah, that's the consequence of it being a game made by the original Command & Conquer devs, what with their take on Yuri's Army (Epsilon Army in the fanmade Mental Omega mod for Red Alert 2) and their slight involvement for Tiberium Wars and its Scrin. And also the reason why the Thrawn's Revenge mod and others for EaW remove it outright.
@vonvalenmcguy627
@vonvalenmcguy627 4 года назад
The new video editing was actually fantastic, it felt great and not out of place or clunky and I hope it doesn’t take forever to edit this together because I think it should stay!
@WS6363
@WS6363 4 года назад
Great video Corey, definitely a huge missed opportunity that LA didn’t make a follow up game. But thank god for your mod(s), which are in many ways a vast improvement on the base game!
@christianvincentcostanilla8428
@christianvincentcostanilla8428 3 года назад
Revive Old Star Wars legends
@mandoreviews7245
@mandoreviews7245 4 года назад
*Head Cannon* Talon Karrede and Mara Jade hunted them down and sent a horde of Vornskrs after them.
@Tom-yk6hk
@Tom-yk6hk 4 года назад
Sounds even realistic
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 2 года назад
Also anticlimactic, though to be honest, that feels right.
@metamorphjack4720
@metamorphjack4720 4 года назад
Anyone here a Silri fan? Here's her prequel to Forces Of Corruption: m.fanfiction.net/s/13573661/1/Silri-Web-of-Deceit
@metamorphjack4720
@metamorphjack4720 4 года назад
The short story is still in progress
@metamorphjack4720
@metamorphjack4720 4 года назад
Cover featuring Kalinka Fox Cosplay on instagram.com/metamorphjack and facebook.com/metamorphjack
@Mixedupcrazy1
@Mixedupcrazy1 4 года назад
Great new effects, I especially liked the galactic map.
@ViVi-gi1ns
@ViVi-gi1ns Год назад
Excellent analysis!
@TurKlack
@TurKlack Год назад
There's no real explanation. The Zann Consortium has been an isolated group of an Expansion pack for an RTS. I don't know if it was ever mentioned by any other media after that. Which I think is a shame. Always liked the Zann Consortium.
@CoreysDatapad
@CoreysDatapad Год назад
They actually had been mentioned in a few places afterwards.
@liaml.e.5964
@liaml.e.5964 4 года назад
Your new graphics look amazing
@tommytwofingers64
@tommytwofingers64 4 года назад
*Tyber Zane has landed*
@Steven-dt5nu
@Steven-dt5nu 12 дней назад
Cool stuff
@elisabethb.7088
@elisabethb.7088 4 года назад
The new stuff looks really great
@alhoward666
@alhoward666 4 года назад
I like the new graphics, reminds of the campaign intros from Galactic Battlegrounds.
@KitchenSinkSoup
@KitchenSinkSoup 4 года назад
Really like the new graphics!
@nated5606
@nated5606 4 года назад
I imagine the neatest ending would be Silri killing Tyber, then Urai killing Silri. Without Tyber's charisma and ambition, Urai would fade into the background, mostly by choice.
@DriveLaken
@DriveLaken 4 года назад
Nice graphics...they look good. I like the way you roll credit at the end too Good channel it's more technical or nerdy than others (compliment ). I guess, more a channel for the Star Wars nerds than the casual fan. I imagine, this channel is where star war throry, eckerts, stupendous come to learn things, or at least re remember
@jwalden91lx
@jwalden91lx 4 года назад
Could you do a video on either Djinn Altis, or Venku Skirata?
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 2 года назад
Same for what the Imperial Commando 2 novel would have been had it been published, and what the Imperial Commando game (or Rebel Commando, depending on how the makers would have thought) should have shown had it been a reality.
@wolfmechace1338
@wolfmechace1338 4 года назад
Can you do a video on the smuggler’s alliance
@Finn_7117
@Finn_7117 4 года назад
Make a video on the swarm war, it never really gets that much coverage
@christianvincentcostanilla8428
@christianvincentcostanilla8428 3 года назад
The first old Star Wars legends : Star wars the splinter of the minds eye by Alan Dean Foster
@bradhedgehog12
@bradhedgehog12 4 года назад
Hmm. Strange. That didn’t end right when I played EAW
@UrBigFan
@UrBigFan Месяц назад
I never see Consortium lore vids
@robertpatience5141
@robertpatience5141 4 года назад
I think he went to work for Disney's Art division.
@lsthero5863
@lsthero5863 2 года назад
The zann consortium is canon.
@christianriddler5063
@christianriddler5063 3 месяца назад
disney is not canon, it's bad fanfiction.
@MrMarinus18
@MrMarinus18 3 года назад
This is the kind of stuff where I really like it but I don't think it should be canon. That just confuses the overall lore and restricts the game developers. Maybe put some kind of warning label on it "Is not canon"
@SmellyUnfortunate007
@SmellyUnfortunate007 3 года назад
I think I would agree to some extent because the Zann Consortium is very overpowered in the game where there were many unfair planetary bonuses. If it was canon, it should be nerfed to the point of being defeatef by either the New Republic or by the Mandalorians led by Din Djarin and Bo-Katan. I think it's just my childhood bias kicking in because I played that game so much when I was a kid.
@cobeoe
@cobeoe 4 года назад
Am I fan fiction and gonna kind of include the zann consortium but I am afraid its main leaders are long dead they were pretty old and the night sisters carbonate Sith Warrior army they all get Merged in the 1st order Like having a few wizards in a battalion
@nicholasgutierrez9940
@nicholasgutierrez9940 4 года назад
The virgin Thrawn vs the Chad Zann
@Code_Machine
@Code_Machine 2 года назад
I really wish Zann got more attention. He was such a damn interesting character that it seemed entirely wasteful not to expand upon him further. He could easily have had his own series like The Mandalorian
@bobert878
@bobert878 4 года назад
Maybe thats the reason the eclipse was moved to Byss and it was finished there in order to hide its location. Maybe the rebels organized another strike on Kuat to take it out and showed up to find an empty dock and a trap waiting for them. It still wouldn't explain why they were surprised to see it in dark empire...
@seanmcgrath3826
@seanmcgrath3826 4 года назад
I think they could have been surprised, if the Emperor faked its destruction, like Warlord Zsinj did with his SSD the Iron Fist in the novels
@lukatomas9465
@lukatomas9465 3 года назад
The Eclipse was moved to Byss because the New Republic took Kuat from the Empire.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 2 года назад
Honestly, their ultimate fates better stay unknown, since it fits their otherwise controversial mystique. Granted, I do bet the organization crumbled because of a secret war between it and that ancient Sith army, where the outcome led to no one winning, and it becoming one of the greatest stories never told, akin to Revan and the Jedi Exile's heroics/villainy post-KotOR II and the events between NJO and the Legacy comics.
@HolyknightVader999
@HolyknightVader999 4 года назад
Zann did what any rich pirate did: retire. Why live a life that keeps you on the bad side of the law when you can just fold, take all your ill-gotten gains, and buy a house somewhere nice while you play puppetmaster with your local senator? Zann's aim, as the ending of the game attests, was that he was going to join the New Republic because he "always wanted to own a senator." After which his activities probably switched from slavery, racketeering, and piracy to boring, corporate, white-collar crimes that still turned up the cash without earning the ire of either the New Republic or the Empire. Zann's fleet joined the New Republic, and became powerful reserve forces that allowed the New Republic to smuggle anything from point A to point B during the Thrawn Trilogy and Dark Empire days, and their heavy-hitting warships turned the tide against the Yuuzhan Vong for the New Republic.
@christianriddler5063
@christianriddler5063 3 месяца назад
I agree with this assessment.
@chaosphoenix2838
@chaosphoenix2838 4 года назад
Silris sith army might have gotten destroyed by tyber and especially urai, who we knew didnt like her much. They could have found out about this whole sith army stuff and went to the planet, maybe because she left one piece too much evidence. Here we have different ways the story could go. In all pf those we co.cider she was in the process of unfreezing them all. First: all three of them get killed either by one of the un frozen warriors or by wildlife or maybe even a random NR patrol going around. Second: urai kills silri after she killed tyber. After the death of both of them urai destroys the sith army and retiers or even dies by his own mistake. Third: tyber and urai destroy the army and silri escapes. Silri flees back to dathomir trying to give the empire information about this whole thingi but the empire doesnt believe her and either kills her or she manages to escape. Or she goes back to prison on dathomir. Or she goes dirrctly to dathomir without going to the empire. Fourth: silri gets killed by tyber or urai in the process of destroying the army. Fifth: silri and kills them and has the army fully under her control. Sixth: same as before but the army soes not trust silri and kills her. Or as a compketly different start they never find out and the army kills silri and seals themselfs again or even destroying themselves. Tyber and urai life good lives and die of age or take part in a battle, killing them.
@worldtraveler930
@worldtraveler930 Год назад
ALL Hale the Zann Consortium!° 🤠👍
@nikkity5491
@nikkity5491 4 года назад
zanns music was pretty good ngl thanks frank klepaki
@commanderwookiecopc806
@commanderwookiecopc806 3 года назад
It’s a Nuclear Device! Don don naw a Don don naw a
@ravager2-636
@ravager2-636 4 года назад
Guess we will see if the Consortium survive the crew of the Ascending Snail.. >;)
@Kaleesh_General27
@Kaleesh_General27 4 года назад
I like to think that after him and urai found all that money they let the consortium fall apart and disappeared to some exotic outer rim planet as billionaires
@Ifedude
@Ifedude 4 года назад
Well done on the additions to the format! They help to make the video more immersive. I still remember playing FoC when it first came out, getting to the end of the campaign with Silri uncovering that secret army, and being so excited for a sequel with a war in the criminal underworld. That's still my headcanon. Silri took the army and took the fight to Zann. After a long, bloody fight, Zann activated failsafes to see his organization and Silri's army destroyed, rather than let her take control of everything he'd built. Which would explain why we don't really hear much about Zann or anything about the secret army, after this point.
@jacktheflash8478
@jacktheflash8478 4 года назад
Boba felt wasn’t a background character he was more a side character
@lightspeedvictory
@lightspeedvictory 4 года назад
Love the new look! I’m working on a fanfic of sorts that combines legends and canon. In it, after the Kuat raid, the New Republic saw the Consortium as a big threat and conducted a campaign of extermination against them. Amidst this, Sirli’s Sith army attacked, but both were defeated and annihilated. I imagine something similar happened
@antonioabreu5736
@antonioabreu5736 4 года назад
Awesome video Corey!
@kingkusnacht
@kingkusnacht 4 года назад
To be fair, Star Wars Empire at War, the Force Unleashed and other video games I would really view as a separate entity to Legends or Canon.
@razortheonethelight7303
@razortheonethelight7303 4 года назад
I mean star wars does love trilogy. so why not have a trilogy of content?
@John-Stark
@John-Stark 3 года назад
I see Zann's antics as more canon then the Sequels...
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 2 года назад
EaW+FoC can still fit in quite well (and is a good enough conclusion to Legends games as a whole), TFU in its PS2/Wii/PSP/Switch version is more easier to stomach with established Legends lore, and TFU II, Galaxies, and Lethal Alliance do deserve to be non-canon. Also, The Clone Wars 2008 should also be removed from Legends. Stupid Wookieepedia editors.
@christianriddler5063
@christianriddler5063 3 месяца назад
@@michaelandreipalon359 The animated clone wars show introducing the really stupid idea of "control chips" really ruined the clones. It took away the humanity of the clones. Making it black and white instead of grey. All the suddenly the clones didn't have to make a moral human choice anymore, instead it was all blamed on some magical chip.... bruh.. Originally in legends the clones made up their own minds and most of them sided with the empire. They were soldiers and good soldiers follow orders. They were not exactly fond of the Jedi either, having seen many of their brethren lost due to Jedi overconfidence and disregard for clone lives. Most of the clone troopers chose the empire because all they knew was how to be soldiers and the empire offered them the same purpose that they had before. The 501st was also fiercely loyal to Vader and they certainly didn't have any chips in them when they chose march on the Jedi temple. They were soldiers doing their duty, doing what they were born to do. The chips are such a childish trope that doesn't belong in star wars at all, nothing wrong with being child friendly but considering that star wars had plenty of nuance before only for this clone wars show to change that... Kinda bugs me. Disney ruined pretty much everything too. I wish Disney had never bought star wars, I miss the old days before everything turned to trash.
@branwenberttle1838
@branwenberttle1838 4 года назад
Jason Isaacs would be a perfect Tyber Zann .
@HolyknightVader999
@HolyknightVader999 4 года назад
No shit. They modeled the guy after him.
@kanalkucker14
@kanalkucker14 3 года назад
I laughed when I saw rhat you put "Shoots:First" into Han Solos Profile
@shanemcgarry4087
@shanemcgarry4087 4 года назад
The format looks great. Really appreciate the extra effort put into getting visuals for more obscure legends topics.
@AlonzoTompkins
@AlonzoTompkins 7 месяцев назад
One of the biggest issues is that Revan was among the sith troopers. (There’s a model of a frozen Revan in the game files) But with the direction Legends went, that would’ve been impossible unless it was a imposter or clone. Plus I doubt Silri would’ve been able to get Darth Revan under her control. I assume Silri didn’t wake up the ancient sith army and simply stole artifacts from the tomb. Realizing how bad things would go for her if she woke them up or even woke up Revan.
@MatthewChenault
@MatthewChenault Месяц назад
I think the best answer is that Tyber decided to lay low. With the amount of wealth he now possesses, it would have been much easier for him to simply control some senators and g keep his revenue going without having to do too many things to draw attention to himself.
@mitchellbrecht2240
@mitchellbrecht2240 4 года назад
Not saying I don't like the new map, but I really liked the simplistic style of the old map. Anyway, the new format looks great, keep up the great work!
@NiiRubra
@NiiRubra 4 года назад
Love the new graphics!
@acimccaffrey
@acimccaffrey 4 года назад
Great job on the new graphics.
@MatthewCombsElbem40
@MatthewCombsElbem40 4 года назад
Your new effects are great, wish I could sub twice
@attilathehun5067
@attilathehun5067 4 года назад
I like the new format.
@Picassoturtlenumba5
@Picassoturtlenumba5 3 года назад
I think they should return to these characters and do more with them.
@christianriddler5063
@christianriddler5063 3 месяца назад
Not disney, they would ruin everything.
@Alexthe360Great
@Alexthe360Great 4 года назад
My headcannon: Lot's of hate sex between Zann and Silri got too violent. Neither one survived. Urai facepalmed, took all the money he could, and left. The remaining Consortium killed each other while the Hutt Cartels took over what was left.
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