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Not to mention no magocracy run by Force-users.

@@ArK047 Problem is the public (as in, the every day person) doesn't understand Force users. Both the Jedi and the Sith are at fault for this and they are both responsible for the dumbest and life-wasting conflicts in SW lore. I'm not saying I dislike Force users. On the contrary, they are valuable assests once you understand their talents and take steps to make sure they don't get too arrogant at this. This is why Grey Jedi or independent minded force users with no affiliation to any order are the kind of Force users you'd want. They make good allies. The more I read about the Jedi and the Sith, the more I despise both of them. I think Thrawn would be wary at dealing with either side and would rather avoid working with them. Grey "Jedi" or free-thinking Force users would be the kind of allies Thrawn may need given their pragmatism and penchant to be more low key about using the Force. That makes them unpredictable and effective combatants because they'll use unconventional tactics and weapons to win any battle.

I would join as well

@@jaymikevillanueva1212 Can you tell me a single way in which the jedi are responsible for any conflict in star wars history?

@Len Kagamine While technically it was the Republic which decided to carry this operation, you can still see the consequences: starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Post%E2%80%93Great_Hyperspace_War_counterinvasion

@Lance Salter rogue one used some good ideas but they completely removed any hope of there not being continuity errors since they removed the Bothans...which was a big rallying point in the speech from Mon mothmas before the death star assualt...Disney screwed the pooch big time... And now they supposedly "leaked" George Lucas original plan for the sequel trilogy...which is a complete fabrication because I have copies of all original 9 scripts as of the first airing of ANH...and they are not what Disney "leaked"

Kolonol1 I get what you're saying, but that was actually the 2nd Death Star that the Bothans got the plans for.

@@ltb1345 death star 1 is in a new hope is it not?

@Rising Horizon Gaming that's only half true... All nine of them were written in around 1978... So it was all planned out... But he never did decide entirely whether he wanted to actually do it or not

Rising Horizon Gaming He flip flopped on weather he would make them, but he did have an entire outline written out for episodes 7-8.

most important of all, he would be able to understand their art

Well, it could have been worse if they destroyed the whole Empire.

If only.

@@papawedge7396 if they destroyed the Empire than Vong would have won.

@@nickgennady dafuq? Lol

It's by far my most favourite faction from Star Wars.

I agree, killing without any kind of due process is simply murder.

They didnt kill the clone on purpose. the vat had droid guards that activated when Luke and Mara entered and the clone was killed in the fighting and subsequent flooding of the chamber because of defence protocols the place had.

@@davidcomer2338 Yeah, I think they literally decided to spare it.

@@davidcomer2338 It just drowned because they didn't bother to try and save it. If they had activated it or removed the clone and taken it with them it would have lived. It was fully formed and was only on a timer to release it. Luke and Mara may have "spared" it but they allowed it to die without a second thought.

@@adventwolfbane They didin't have time to think it that far, they almost drowned themselves.

I completely agree with you, the Chiss are my most favourite species in the entire Star Wars franchise.

That's because the Vong War wasn't written by Zhan. So the writers of that series either forgot they exist, didn't wanna use them, or Zhan wouldn't allow it.

@@TheGgrrmanning Well they played part in the fate of the jedi books.

@@marckrieger3277 When was that?

@@TheGgrrmanning Fell called ships of the empire of the hand when attacking daala. I can't say which book probably the last one.

@@marckrieger3277 It's explained in the Dark Nest Trilogy (and before, i think, in the Force Heretic trilogy in NJO) that the Chiss Ascendancy has restructured and "absorbed" the Empire of the Hand and in Dark Nest they say "The Empire of the Hand might return when needed", which they do in Fate of the Jedi. Apocalypse under Jag Fel. They could have played a bigger part in future books, but thanks to Disney, we might never know.

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I believe it wasn't, but Disney killed the creativity of our universe for their copy and paste universe unfortunately

I know I’m late but I doubt it, KOTOR came out well after most of the EU material had been written, and the writers of the EU books coming out at the time likely did not play the game so might not of even known who Revan was.

They might mean in-universe, which my head canon is yes, since the chiss were allied with Vitiates sith empire

@@Hk121394 they were? Any references for this outside of SWTOR and that mess?

They would find each other “Effective”

I feel like canon Thrawn would see Legends Thrawn as a threat and would be prepared to kill him, however as long as their goals stayed the same they would cooperate.

EU Thrawn would wipe the floor with Disney Wars Thrawn...

That…doesn’t really make sense

@@harrambou9468 I mean the book bears almost no resemblance to the actual events surrounding the Iraq war, but if you think about the US domestic framing of Iraq, and the argument employed domestically to justify that war, there actually are a lot of parallels.

Lovecat Productions stop giving me hope...

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I think Pellaeon was in Rebels and the end of the New Thrawn Trilogy

He was mentioned once in Rebels, but he doesn't really show up.

That would be interesting, but I also think we might have an enemy similar to the vong in the grysks.

I don't think so. They kind of closed that with the Cade Skywalker story.

Vinnie Warlock I think there is some hope. Even if it’s a small thing such as finally releasing Escape from Dagu, even if it’s an ebook.

The way Canon has been going, I suspect we may see the return of old Legends material in the coming years. It won't be soon, mind you, but it probably will happen eventually.

I would love to see more Legends material, especially books on what the Empire of the Hand was doing

J Sailer I honestly don't get why Lucasfilm won't let the authors still write books in the old continuity. All they have to do is put the "Legends" label on them. A lot of big franchises have multiple ongoing continuities, with a prime example being Marvel.

I hope they do something like this. It makes the most sense for Canon Thrawn’s character, and it would be vastly more interesting than if he was just continuing to do evil empire stuff for the sake of being evil.

Perhaps

Armoured Productions SWTOR players start manifesting outta thin air...

@@blackshogun272 Kneel before the Dragon of Zakuul

@@ArmouredProductions *"I have the patience of stone and the will of stars. My ascendance is inevitable. Let your death be the same..."* - Sith Emperor Vitiate