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@CallOn84
@CallOn84 2 года назад
I'm surprised they didn't talk about the Steam Deck potentially impacting Linux gaming for the better.
@Matruchus
@Matruchus 2 года назад
It will only affect it for those that mainly use Steam. For other pc game stores sadly it won't have an effect. You will still be dependent on Lutris, Gamehub, Bottles or just plain Wine for those and that is still a hit and miss option.
@johnfrankster3244
@johnfrankster3244 2 года назад
Only way it would ever happen is if hardware was produced at the same rate nintendo & sony do, & if the steam deck was sold in local stores giving many more people access. Those things will never happen.
@matko000
@matko000 2 года назад
@@Matruchus That is the current situation yes, but if the steam deck is sucesfull, I can see other companies going similar routes (some allready talking about their own steam deck like products). While microsoft can make one running windows, I can see other companies licensing steamOS (instead of buying windows), and making at least linux versions of their launchers. Not to mention a huge leap for linux gaming that Valve made with actually getting anti-cheat providers to support linux (wine, proton,...).
@chillidog8726
@chillidog8726 2 года назад
@@Matruchus not sure they seem to have a good plan for you to add programms outside of steam to steam and then run them via proton obviously there are other solutions for this but for the majority of users it has to be easy and if they support that well I don't see why it should not work good The biggest thing there beeing that they make it easy to optimize for proton outside of steam i mean hell i would not be super surprised if the deck sells really well that epic and Ms make their own game launchers
@novh4ck
@novh4ck 2 года назад
@@Matruchus I see it the other way. There is absolutely no reason for other companies to not release their clients for Linux now and integrate Proton. If they don't do it they don't deserve my money.
@sergioesauarambuladuran7527
@sergioesauarambuladuran7527 2 года назад
Windows is not an impediment, you can already do everything you told us we need Windows for
@rajgill7576
@rajgill7576 2 года назад
Homie having a migraine? Sunglasses indoors hasn't been a fad in a while haha
@KAOSSOCIETY
@KAOSSOCIETY 2 года назад
CRAZY HOW NINTENDO WILL JUST REMOVE FEATURE WE US IN MODERN SOCIETY AND GET MAD WHEN ANOTHER COMPANY MAKE SOSMETHING BETTER
@duxedo380
@duxedo380 2 года назад
If I load up windows, could I play Valorant on it, while docked
@geise69
@geise69 2 года назад
Now compare the weight of the steam deck to an Xbox controller.
@MrVlodato
@MrVlodato 2 года назад
Price is too good not to buy. But in all seriousness i think it will collect dust. Theres a reason i bring my vita with me to work instead of my switch. Now that i got a switch lite i actually bring that with me sometimes instead. going to get a haircut? throw the vita in my pocket. Im not gonna pull out a steam deck while im waiting for my doctors apt. Im not trying to hate. i think its awesome. But i still think for portability a vita or switch lite is king and for playing games on planes or in hotels a gaming laptop is better. i just dont see many situations that this is better or more usable.
@Vatrien
@Vatrien 2 года назад
Because it's opening up the portable PC space more than it's fighting with other handhelds.
@soham7510
@soham7510 2 года назад
Jeez why is he pushing windows so hard
@danieu1510
@danieu1510 2 года назад
I'm not a windows hater, but damn don't fucking install windows in the steam deck, it will probably suck due to drivers. Also,most of the games that Linux can't run are like, competitive shooters and stuff, and I don't think that they would run good in the Deck's hardware
@TaaviJuursalu
@TaaviJuursalu 2 года назад
Try to play CS:GO with a controller :P
@botdog370
@botdog370 2 года назад
and no competitive shooter besides cod is played on controller. that’s a whole different market
@michaelb2047
@michaelb2047 2 года назад
@@TaaviJuursalu that’s why they actually added touch pads to it. Playing ego shooter with a touchpad under your thumb is 10x better than with a joystivj
@ruineka_one
@ruineka_one 2 года назад
The lack of faith in SteamOS hurts but yes you can install Windows.
@Daniel-iv6kb
@Daniel-iv6kb 2 года назад
The bad thing about Windows is that it's much more demanding on hardware than Linux.
@nodezsh
@nodezsh 2 года назад
@@Daniel-iv6kb It's really not. Saying that as a daily driving Arch Linux user. Linux tends (read: lightly) to use more power for lesser performance, however this is with a full desktop distro. If you install less daemons and desktop add-ons, Linux works much better than Windows. But if you're just installing Ubuntu, you don't get to pick and choose what you want to install on first boot. Actually, Ubuntu does not actually let you uninstall any packages from the base system. Since SteamOS is gonna rely on Flatpak, however, it's possible that it'll just come with the essentials (Dolphin, Firefox, Konsole, maybe KWrite; that's as far as one needs for a base system) and the rest will be manually installed by the user.
@scottpascal3099
@scottpascal3099 2 года назад
Those installing Windows will be loosing alot of things... Linus said that the secret sauce is the software. No firmware updates and crappy driver support for it on Windows, no games suspend, no AMD FSR, no battery life improvements, etc...
@Daniel-iv6kb
@Daniel-iv6kb 2 года назад
@@nodezsh Fair enough. I didn't mean to compare them head to head, I meant that Linux has the luxury of being installed with just enough to work while Windows is always installed with everything on the universe.
@nodezsh
@nodezsh 2 года назад
@@Daniel-iv6kb Funnily enough, while Linux is usually accompanied by lots of software, it actually feels lighter out of the box than Windows ever does because it only comes with useful software. Windows comes with trash, and it installs more without your explicit confirmation. On top of that you have to install your own apps. It's a mess. Anyways, out of the box Ubuntu is heavier. But there's other alternative distros that are lighter. It really depends on what you choose. Obviously, SteamOS won't come bundled with LibreOffice or Spotify. So that's good
@ryanwakebradtelle8682
@ryanwakebradtelle8682 2 года назад
I'd love to see a community power profiles designed for your game, the same way the steam controller has community profiles that you can test out and switch out on the fly.
@Jaxv3r
@Jaxv3r 2 года назад
Still kinda bum how when I use my playstation or switch controller, it automatically defaults to Xbox control layout, there's some games that actually supports Dual shock or switch controller albeit it's niche, but goddammit I get confused which kind of "X" is talking about, is it the bottom one, left, or the top one, goddammit xd
@dominik2327
@dominik2327 2 года назад
@@Jaxv3r Steam has now SDK for that, which should technically make it easy for developers to implement such feature, but still game dev has to use it
@Cloudef
@Cloudef 2 года назад
Steam Deck is actually valve's push for developers to target proton (and maybe linux). Proton and the new APIs valve are developing allow PC gaming to be more consistent experience like it is on consoles. Proton allows them to support modern things in older games. Also linux they control the whole graphics stack, which allows them to do stuff like gamescope. Windows will slowly become irrelevant.
@bionicgeekgrrl
@bionicgeekgrrl 2 года назад
The problem with this is that they will be going against Microsoft and with the pc and xbox using direct x it is going to be very hard to change that anytime soon.
@chillidog8726
@chillidog8726 2 года назад
As a Linux user the hole windows angle is not gonna do you anygood try to use it as intended first and see if you like it I would not be surprised if after some time there will be a way to play MS game pass Games. Linux is not hard especially the version they are shipping with it right now and that is gonna be the best experience out of the box
@deadringer8050
@deadringer8050 2 года назад
windows isn't touching my steam deck, I want a console experience on pc and that's what this is
@koreybaird6462
@koreybaird6462 2 года назад
I cannot wait for my steam deck to come in but I am definitely not throwing windows on it I feel like that is a great way to lose performance on this custom apu plus Linux gaming has gotten so good that only a select few titles won’t work
2 года назад
Decent video overall and I'm very excited for the Steam deck! bringing up Windows like 10 times felt weird though. Steam OS is one of the coolest parts about the Steam Deck and I fully expect Valve to offer cool software features through an OS that is tailor made for this device. I wouldn't even want to install Windows on it and lose all that potential.
@dominik2327
@dominik2327 2 года назад
Exactly this, but sadly the Windows thing will stick to normies mouths in the Deck's context, because the device is straight up advertised as a PC.
@obeysyn6575
@obeysyn6575 2 года назад
@@dominik2327 the only reason I want windows is because it gives me access to games I own on epic or GOG and get games from gamepass
@シミズルリ
@シミズルリ 2 года назад
@@obeysyn6575 So... I understand the Gamepass part, but Epic and GOG? They are pretty much available on Linux systems.
@pt8306
@pt8306 2 года назад
Nobody is going to run Windows on this thing. People keep saying it like it's "gonna happen" and "millions of people are gonna put Windows on it!" but the reality is, most games will run fine, people are lazy, and Linux is a breath of fresh air to a lot of people who are already extremely frustrated with Windows anyway. Not to mention the bloatware that is Windows is going to absolutely tank the performance of this thing, especially if it doesn't have proper first-party driver support, which it likely won't.
@rajgill7576
@rajgill7576 2 года назад
Yea shocking how little realize a lot of android smartphones run a type of Linux. It's been under our noses the entire time lol
@novh4ck
@novh4ck 2 года назад
A lot of Vulkan and DX12 games run better on Linux already. Says a lot about how "awesome" Windows is as a gaming platform when games designed for it run better on some other platform.
@nathancooley8459
@nathancooley8459 2 года назад
I honestly really think that sideloading Windows onto the deck will be a mistake. But I also just hope that I'm right because of my own biases
@madjunir
@madjunir 2 года назад
I agree that side loading could be a mistake (specially for new PC users). But am happy that Valve allows it for the tech savvy. Reviewers are also giving positive reviews because Valve is not limiting people in any way. This should definitely help sales until proton and linux gaming finishes maturing {which I see will happen at a faster rate than ever specially if sales are good!)
@TheJackiMonster
@TheJackiMonster 2 года назад
People really do not have to be worried about updates at all as long as they stay with SteamOS. Overall it is still based on Linux (Archlinux in particular). So as long as there are people contributing to open-source software, you will get updates, fixes, improvements and new features... essentially for your lifetime. ^^' So I think people being used to Windows and even more locked down operating systems, tend to underestimate the open-source community here by a long shot. But I understand that is hard to imagine for anyone who didn't look into it already. ^^'
@sambird7
@sambird7 2 года назад
Putting Windows on the Steam deck will come with major downsides. Such as losing suspend features and optimizations and the having to use the desktop version of steam. Plus, like, just fuck Microsoft anyway lol
@tylerdurden6917
@tylerdurden6917 2 года назад
Honestly bro lol
@micaiahjohnson620
@micaiahjohnson620 2 года назад
If you want to use playstation remote play you will need windows
@dramaticmudderer5208
@dramaticmudderer5208 2 года назад
@@micaiahjohnson620 Nope, might be harder to use but there is a linux version that has existed for a while already, so you don't need windows for that
@lorddarthvader6289
@lorddarthvader6289 2 года назад
@@micaiahjohnson620 I'm on Linux and remote play with my ps4 works
@guccisquidbillytentacles
@guccisquidbillytentacles 2 года назад
it depends on the user i would be more than happy with steam os and the somewhat limited library but for some people setting up windows to boot into big picture mode on startup and installing windows maybe worth it even if it has its disadvantages just to play some of their favorite games
@OutreRim
@OutreRim 2 года назад
instead of instsalling windows give the publicity to linux the amazing work by volunteers making open source software to make all your games work on this. Forza Horizon 5 works on this because of voluntary work
@edfl497
@edfl497 2 года назад
windows on the steamdeck will be a mistake reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee just give steamos a fair go
@josenunez7422
@josenunez7422 2 года назад
I'm so happy Austin didn't get send a Steam Deck. He lost his reputation with his inaccurate tech reviews. His channel is basically a tech joke by now.
@epiksar
@epiksar 2 года назад
Inaccurate tech reviews? Like what? I havent been watching him a lot. Genuinely curious.
@Matruchus
@Matruchus 2 года назад
No you do not want to install Windows. Steam Deck is optimized for Steam OS and will run best with it. You will definitely loose performance if you install Windows. Steam Deck has essentially same desktop layout as Windows and it runs as a normal operating system when you plug in a keyboard, mouse and monitor. I would recommend people to try PoP OS, obviously with AMD graphics card (for best performance on Linux) and Steam. For gaming if you don't do huge massive multiplayer games you can run any game through Proton now without having to do anything.
@TheJackiMonster
@TheJackiMonster 2 года назад
I'm definitely looking forward to people installing Windows. First thing they realize will probably be that the display is rotated at 90 degrees instead of being horizontally as expected. That was actually one of the first noticeable patches to the Linux kernel which were exclusively to support the Steam Deck. I think SteamOS will be the best option on this hardware for multiple reasons. The most reason is that Valve will maintain updates, patches, improve compatibility and improve performance long term. There's pretty much no doubt considering that even a Steam Link still gets updates. Most Linux distributions will probably work out of the box with minor issues if any. Most important will be to have the newest kernel and open-source graphics drivers. But putting Windows on it (be it Windows 10 or Windows 11)... it will probably annoy a lot of people trying to do so. Because Valve will not support you (as much) and I'm not sure if Microsoft has enough interest to do it.
@AndersHass
@AndersHass 2 года назад
@@TheJackiMonster there have been talks about making Windows working on the Steam Deck as far as I have heard. But I would still say best to keep it on Steam OS.
@JustSomeRandomIdiot
@JustSomeRandomIdiot 2 года назад
@@TheJackiMonster It will give folks a hilarious taste of a reversal of situation. Normally it's Linux being decried as not ready for the masses because it doesn't work 'perfectly' on some specific type of laptop or something. Even though the real reason why is simply because the laptop was made for Windows, not for Linux, and the laptop maker made little to no effort to ensure Linux compatibility with the hardware. Something which is not the fault of Linux developers. It's gonna be funny seeing folks see first hand and experience what it's like when the shoe is on the other foot, and it's Linux that a device was designed for, not Windows, and see first hand what difference it makes to the user experience in terms of how easy it is to get an OS installed and running smoothly. "See, it's not Linux that was 'broken', it was the fault of hardware makers all along who just didn't put any effort into supporting it. Enjoy your rotated screen and googling how to fix that!"
@JabbaJake
@JabbaJake 2 года назад
Problem is a lot of people like myself want to play big online games on the go. For instance the game I play the most is Apex legends, so until they find a way to make anti cheat work with proton I would unfortunately have to install windows
@mariozenarju6461
@mariozenarju6461 2 года назад
@@JabbaJake And that's the only game you have in your collection? I really don't think 20 minutes per one single game is worth a completely borked user experience as a whole
@AQDuck
@AQDuck 2 года назад
"I'm not even going to give SteamOS and Linux a chance" is basically what they talk about in the video. Did they mention Proton, SteamOS or Linux even once? I count *1* "Linux" mention, and it's an assumption that graphics drivers on Linux are worse than Windows... WTF?
@iliyalb
@iliyalb 2 года назад
You guys mentioned Windows a bunch of times. Why not just use the software that is designed for the hardware?
@yesitshassan
@yesitshassan 2 года назад
Also, many games are not getting Steam verified, like Fall Guys and P4G
@ized88
@ized88 2 года назад
Though the same thing. On windows you are probably missing out on a bunch of features like quick resume. And the "performance boost" will probably get negated when we get os level SSR 🤷🏻‍♂️ I still hope we get Gamepass integrated into steam or a Linux version. As i get all versions i probably make one with windows to run Gamepass and check out if it runs better.
@AninoNiKugi
@AninoNiKugi 2 года назад
Most people will probably stay with SteamOS but there's no problem if you want to install Windows on it. It's actually your device, you can do whatever you want, unlike most devices nowdays. Many people will probably install other LInux distros on it too or customized SteamOS or something.
@eziothedeadpoet
@eziothedeadpoet 2 года назад
@@AninoNiKugi I really hope steam will put "big picture mode"(no clue how they will call it after the deck ship's) themes into its point shop. Like you could get themes for the PSP ans PS Vita.
@chfgn
@chfgn 2 года назад
Installing games from outside the Steam store would be the biggest reason, like if you have a PC Game Pass subscription, or if you've ever gotten a free game from the Epic store, or you play anything from EA, Ubisoft, or Activision Blizzard that isn't listed on the Steam store.
@TheFlyingCrocodile
@TheFlyingCrocodile 2 года назад
how much did Microsoft pay this guy to mention windows 1000 times when its not needed for the points you brought up
@kewejuankenobie
@kewejuankenobie 2 года назад
I think I’ll do perfectly fine with steam os.
@Agenthoneydew33
@Agenthoneydew33 2 года назад
Lol right
@achandab
@achandab 2 года назад
They mentioned it like one time you fkn nerd. And it’s a valid point since I’m buying this specifically for game pass you dog
@TheFlyingCrocodile
@TheFlyingCrocodile 2 года назад
​@@achandab 2:06 x3 2:43 x2 5:12 then 5:32 and again 7:22 and 7:35 this guy also works really close with Xbox you cat
@ukashi694
@ukashi694 2 года назад
@@achandab 🤡
@paulharrison8379
@paulharrison8379 2 года назад
I have 800 steam games and so for me my total cost of ownership of a steam deck would be $399 plus $50 for an SD card.
@crisvok
@crisvok 2 года назад
Valve: "the micro SD card has similar performance to SSD" RU-vidr clowns : "I'm planning on updating the SSD.. you won't be able to play triple A games on SD card..." RU-vidr clowns after checking on the SD card speeds on preview unit: "👁️👄👁️"
@Ariel-hb6kv
@Ariel-hb6kv 2 года назад
I’m more excited about the software and maybe being able to jump out of windows
@wii166
@wii166 2 года назад
I know right i was getting mad that he kept saying windows this or that lol i wonder how many will install windows on it however.
@dreamingg308
@dreamingg308 2 года назад
You can jump out of windows even without the steam deck. The only thing is that you can only do it once before you regret ever making that decision, so you should probably not do it either way
@andylines8040
@andylines8040 2 года назад
@@dreamingg308 not if you roll when you hit the ground
@borjaviedma7074
@borjaviedma7074 2 года назад
Some games are being certificated for SteamDeck by Steam, for example this one I am playing now, Aeterna Noctis, really I don't understand how Steam choice this games but sure there will be the best.
@ized88
@ized88 2 года назад
They test every game and gave out the exact criteria to get Steam-Deck Verified / playable. Verified is mostly: everything is doable with controller Inputs, runs with a default profile at 30fps on the deck, everything is readable and input prompts have the correct icons
@raymondchesney8348
@raymondchesney8348 2 года назад
You’re very illiterate
@dominik2327
@dominik2327 2 года назад
AFAIK, they choose the verified games order by the interests of people who ordered the Deck. I can clearly say that - there are many games from my library that are verified or playable already.
@MaxDad7
@MaxDad7 2 года назад
I would be careful talking about how "easy" it will be to put Windows on this device. Valve hasn't talked about that much. We know it can be done, but we don't know if there will be verified Windows drivers anytime soon. This hardware is custom and setup a particular way, and Steam OS is tailored for it. Windows won't be.
@nik1andr22
@nik1andr22 2 года назад
I was looking at steam's faq for game developers who want to publish on steam, and they had a section specifically for steam deck. There was a video (it should be public as far as i know) talking about developing for steam deck, and they said something along the lines of: "you can install any game, software and OS that you want, because it is basically a PC".
@JustSomeRandomIdiot
@JustSomeRandomIdiot 2 года назад
Well if Windows doesn't recognise the hardware I guess that's just because Windows is an unpolished OS that needs more work before it's ready for the mainstream. = (I'm joking of course but just had to say it for the lols you know, like, since that's what folks would say about Linux any time it doesn't recognise hardware out of the box?)
@MaxDad7
@MaxDad7 2 года назад
@@JustSomeRandomIdiot Lol. Yep! Things like the decks gyroscope, accelerometer, and haptics may not be there on Windows. That's not counting the built in FSR; we know Windows doesn't have that.
@randgrithr7387
@randgrithr7387 2 года назад
Now Valve just has to make the Index work flawlessly on linux.
@MobileDecay
@MobileDecay 2 года назад
Plus Windows is spyware trash.
@Cuperino
@Cuperino 2 года назад
Having run Steam on Linux for this past year, I’m feeling pretty confident game compatibility will be great on SteamOS!
@Dkm337
@Dkm337 2 года назад
custom Soc. putting windows. i really doubt the Driver side of things. amd has to provide support on the Gpu side else it could crash more than how intel Uhd performs against Radeon apu. I hope its not the case. then comes bluetooth and wifi drivers. then the stability of windows it self on that machine. its too much of a hassle than to just run things on Steam os.
@oddstap6976
@oddstap6976 2 года назад
You underestimate the Linux and open-source community, In my experience where Linux was five years ago vs today in terms of games is astonishing and with this it'll only continue to grow. Linux will become a competitor to windows in the gaming realm.
@gu4xinim
@gu4xinim 2 года назад
Austin really likes his windows, eh?
@Vartazian360
@Vartazian360 2 года назад
Seems like all these guys care about is installing windows. You would lose steam os 3 specific features like quick resume, on the go power management, os level FSR, etc.. let's wait and see how it is before jumping to the conclusion that it needs windows to be good
@thetitan6979
@thetitan6979 2 года назад
When it comes to valve abandoning things. I think this time there is a big difference. For the first time valve threw down there own money on the hardware. Don't forget how expensive it is to develop something like this. From the soc to all the other things. Unlike the steam machine where other companies did that. So I think valve is actually serious about this thing after the success of the index vr headset.
@madjunir
@madjunir 2 года назад
Valve is also looking into making an Oculus Meta Quest VR. Rival so it also needs this fast mobile technology
@lagumlemoni331
@lagumlemoni331 2 года назад
Steam machine... Thats a name I havent learned in a long time
@eziothedeadpoet
@eziothedeadpoet 2 года назад
I will stick with steam OS. And maybe dual boot windows of a micro SD.
@mr.anirbangoswami
@mr.anirbangoswami 2 года назад
Installing windows does have perks, but having a lighter OS, inbuilt FSR at an OS level, and integrated customizable power profiles, make me wanna stick to Linux, ignoring the fact that I personally love Linux. But yeah for people who have game pass, :D I can see why people could want to switch to windows at the cost of a bulkier less efficient and more resource intensive OS. Pick your poison I guess.
@AninoNiKugi
@AninoNiKugi 2 года назад
I kinda want to buy a Steam Deck to use it as my laptop for programming stuffs :D
@futuregadget_v2.1
@futuregadget_v2.1 2 года назад
Compiling a kernel on this CPU in no time at all :D Once I cross-compiled a kernel for an ARM board like Raspberry Pi. Took me almost 2 hours on my crappy Laptop with Intel dual core CPU. The same task on my pc took just 10 minutes. Bless AMD Ryzen 7 1700 :D
@pieceofschmidtgamer
@pieceofschmidtgamer 2 года назад
Then you're buying it for the wrong reasons. The Steam Deck is geared totally towards being a gaming handheld. It's not a laptop. While it is a PC in a software sense (i.e. it's an open platform), it really isn't in a hardware sense. In order to use it as a proper PC you'll need: The Steam Deck (obviously), let's go with the middle option at $530USD because you're going to want more than just 64GBs of eMMC storage. I'm low-balling here because I don't know which model you've reserved. The Dock that's being sold along side it. The price hasn't been announced yet, but it'll probably be around $50-100USD. A monitor (preferably portable one for portability's sake since you said you wanted a laptop). You're not going to want to do work on a 7 inch display. A 15 inch portable monitor goes for about $160USD on Newegg. You'll need a blutooth keyboard and mouse. Luckily you can get combos for these for about $35USD. All told: Steam Deck - $530USD Deck Dock - $50USD Portable Monitor - $160USD Keyboard/mouse - $35USD Total - $775USD For that amount of money you could get an entry level gaming laptop that'll easily out perform the Steam Deck AND be more convenient to do work (any kind of work) on. Because oddly enough, it's not just about the money, but the convenience (or lack thereof) of the form factor. With a Steam Deck based setup as a portable setup (as a laptop inevitably would be; otherwise, why bother) it would be horribly inconvenient. The portable monitor in question wouldn't have a built in battery so you would be tethered to the wall and desperate for an outlet where ever you go. Plus every major component would be a separate device that needed to be bought separately, meaning you'd also have to juggle them every time you wanted to use the setup, whereas with a laptop, not only do they come with everything you need for the setup to work out of the box, it's literally an all-in-one device that's all battery powered, so you're not necessarily tethered to the wall. Ultimately, the Steam Deck as a handheld shanghai'd as a basic desktop is pretty good, however, the Steam Deck as a handheld shanghai'd as a laptop is actually quite awful.
@waffleten9750
@waffleten9750 2 года назад
@@pieceofschmidtgamer The fact you had to add all the stuff just to get it to a laptop that's still comparable in power is funny.
@kquote03
@kquote03 2 года назад
don't you want a physical keyboard ??
@ModernDayGeeks
@ModernDayGeeks 2 года назад
We might not get the Half Life 3 we truly deserve, but seeing as how Steam Deck could the gaming space as we know it, Lord Gaben surely is spoiling us in his own way
@zperdek
@zperdek 2 года назад
But you can play HL 1,2,E2,E2,P1,P2. Can you imagine playing escape from city 17 while going on train?
@samamir8765
@samamir8765 2 года назад
Who said the Steam Deck sucks it’s better then the Nintendo Switch PSP PS Vita all the other handheld consoles of course cause it’s a PC no console can beat a PC
@AndersHass
@AndersHass 2 года назад
I don't think you will get better performance with Windows on Steam Deck, you will get more games you can play but that is it.
@AndersHass
@AndersHass 2 года назад
Ironic maybe you won't get more games you can play with how bad Windows is actually running.
@Wingedmagician
@Wingedmagician 2 года назад
The steam deck is borderline a gift from Gabe
@lungaphakathi9915
@lungaphakathi9915 2 года назад
steam deck comes with linux which is better than windows in my opinion. so you don't have to install windows on it
@DavidKirwanirl
@DavidKirwanirl 2 года назад
imo the future of gaming won't be on Windows. Get moved over to Linux asap!
@nickindie4704
@nickindie4704 2 года назад
I think it's sad how people are forgetting the most in depth and detailed deck review from Phawx.
@DakotaRileyMedia
@DakotaRileyMedia 2 года назад
Valve is attacking the console market more than they are the PC market. Existing PC gamers are still going to want their high end desktops, and while the Steam Deck is attractive to the PC gamer market (I am and a PC gamer and I am getting a Steam Deck), but the pricing of the Deck is attractive enough for console gamers who want to dip their toes into PC gaming can do so without dropping $1000 or more on a PC. It is hard to imagine what Valve will do next, but it isn't hard to see a future where Valve creates Steam Pass or Deck Pass, a Game Pass competitor that they offer as a subscription service that offers a curated array of Deck Verified gaming content for anyone with a Steam account or a Steam Deck. It seems every big name player in the gaming industry wants a subscription model to generate constant revenue, and Valve is eventually going to go down that route for better or worse. The Steam Deck feels like the first true dip into that market, unlike the Steam Machines in 2015, which were just PCs that had a Linux powered console interface rather than being true console competitors, even though that's what Valve wanted us to believe back then. The Steam Machine failed because there was too much choice for the end user, there was no clear vision, and Linux just didn't have the game support in 2015. Proton didn't even come about until 2018, well after the Steam Machines had already failed. In early 2022, Proton has made Linux gaming more viable than ever thanks to compatibility with 80% of the Steam Library. The Steam Deck will not fail the way the Steam Machines did because Valve addressed all 3 reasons the Steam Machines failed, having only 3 options that boil down to storage capacity, having a much clearer vision for the hardware, and having addressed the Linux game support over the past 3 and a half years since releasing Proton.
@pieceofschmidtgamer
@pieceofschmidtgamer 2 года назад
I wouldn't say Valve is going after the Console market insomuch as they're directly creating a console because the Steam Deck clearly isn't a console (Valve themselves even said it's a PC). What they're doing (or at least trying to do) is create a PC that can appeal to console gamers (i.e. price point and ease of use). They're trying to merge the Console World with the world of PCs, basically the Steam Deck is meant to have the convenience of a console with the flexibility of a PC.
@novh4ck
@novh4ck 2 года назад
This device is a Linux PC not an Apple product. Have you ever heard about any popular Linux device losing support? Yeah, maybe Valve will abandon it eventually but the community will be releasing updates years into the future. There are still people running around with Nokia N900's from 13 years ago running community driven Maemo continuation project with the latest update from 2021... It will be the same for the Steam Deck.
@AlejandroLZuvic
@AlejandroLZuvic 2 года назад
I agree with you but to be honest, Apple isn’t the worst offender, not by a long shot. iPhones released in 2017 still get major OS updates, Macs from 2013 are still getting security updates and just they stopped receiving major OS updates just last year. Anything with Android is a million times worse, and I say this being an Android user and all.
@futuregadget_v2.1
@futuregadget_v2.1 2 года назад
As someone who uses a Linux Distribution for over 10 years, I can tell you, everything you mentioned Windows might be necessary for, can be done using SteamOS. SteamOS is based on Arch Linux guys, there is no OS out there which gets faster updates. Also the Linux kernel, by default, contains almost every driver you will ever need for any device (except graphics drivers). Most people see Linux as it was 20 years before, a terminal controlled pain in the ass to get basic everyday software running. But that's not state-of-the-art anymore. Indeed, mostly using Linux is a way more painless experience than using Windows. I know, because I use both of them (my employer force me to use Windows).
@dreamyuki
@dreamyuki 2 года назад
Well Linux AMD driver is included on the kernel, Mesa is userspace driver for AMD meanwhile amdgpu is kernel module
@futuregadget_v2.1
@futuregadget_v2.1 2 года назад
@@dreamyuki amdgpu is a kernel module which needs to be built before it can be used. It's not included in the kernel by default.
@dlsmz
@dlsmz 2 года назад
You can already use Steam Deck as a Desktop/PC with the Ultimate/Unlimited Power of Linux*
@CalcProgrammer1
@CalcProgrammer1 Год назад
The Steam Deck is awesome, but this review has too much "load up a copy of Windows" for my liking. The Steam Deck's best feature is its OS. Steam is bringing Linux gaming to the masses with the Deck. I'm sad that other handhelds including the ROG Ally are just shipping boring old anti-consumer Windows rather than innovating like Valve is with SteamOS.
@tld8102
@tld8102 2 года назад
im fine with it running linux.
@kewlztertc5386
@kewlztertc5386 2 года назад
The fact that Valve is selling at or near cost (if not loss) , is the reason we won't get a Steam Deck v2. Valve wants to establish the market, then have other manufacturers take over using SteamOS. Valve only cares about Steam, selling games subsidizes the cost of the hardware. Other manufacturers don't have that incentive, so they can't compete on price. This means Valve would have to continue making SDeck's, and be the only maker, or bow out and allow other MFG's to make them at higher (profitable) prices. Valve wins if other MFG's make them, Valve loses if they must continue to make them.
@arnowisp6244
@arnowisp6244 2 года назад
Sadly why Tyler didn't have confidence in Valve on the Steam deck.
@kewlztertc5386
@kewlztertc5386 2 года назад
@@arnowisp6244 I think the Steam Deck will be very successful. Just don't look for more from Valve.
@BrandonBlume
@BrandonBlume 2 года назад
Install Windows to get the most out of it? You underestimate how well SteamOS 3.0 will be optimized specifically to take advantage of the best the Deck has to offer in a way that Windows absolutely cannot.
@Bears11422
@Bears11422 2 года назад
I did not want a portable X-Box. I had my PSP Thank you.
@MatteoDeCarlo
@MatteoDeCarlo 2 года назад
I think loading windows with it will make it suck a lot. SD cards are going to be slow, performance generally worse. Just keep this in mind and dual boot, the original OS is going to be quite good, that is my guess.
@josecamilojimenez2784
@josecamilojimenez2784 2 года назад
One thing that a lot of reviewers doesn't aknowledge is that because this is basically linux the amd gpu drivers gets updated pretty frecuently and as a linux user let me tell you something, almost every new update on the amdgpu drivers brings more performance to the majority of games.
@speedytech5225
@speedytech5225 2 года назад
First
@kquote03
@kquote03 2 года назад
You know, the steam deck might actually suck when using windows, it's really REALLY weird that both of you ordered the deck with clear intentions of removing all the power management and software integration/optimization and expecting it to not suck. Don't get me wrong, yes, I am /as a Loonix user/ definitely biased, but I do not care what other people want to do with their system. I just think it's definitely misleading to come up with this conclusion when literally no one has run Windows on the deck. I'd say this is worse than preordering stuff, because at least that has a set of promises, this doesn't even have that going for it. It is very possible that you won't eat your cake and you won't have it as well. After all, it is a lie.
@anordinarycat1285
@anordinarycat1285 2 года назад
"this is a portable Xbox" *about the only piece of Microsoft code that will actually run on it natively on the Steam Deck out of the box is Visual Studio Code*
@VictorRodriguez-zp2do
@VictorRodriguez-zp2do 2 года назад
How are you going to get drivers fro this thing on Windows? not to mention the many features that won't work by changing the OS. Also who knows what the batter life will be on Windows.
@GTA-qv8pk
@GTA-qv8pk 2 года назад
People who have internet or Wi-Fi at their home I don't know how the hell it works are so freaking lucky I live out in the middle of nowhere and can't find an internet provider it sucks.
@AZBCDE
@AZBCDE 2 года назад
LMAO you complain about The Switch being a closed system, have you clowns never heard of Sony or Apple
@te0nani
@te0nani 2 года назад
Windows on the Deck? Urgh.
@GarethMcCumskey
@GarethMcCumskey 2 года назад
Dont want to install WIndows thanks. Less Microsoft is better IMO
@chanderule605
@chanderule605 2 года назад
Better game support = better OS
@GarethMcCumskey
@GarethMcCumskey 2 года назад
@@chanderule605 Linux doesn't force me to create an online account to use the OS. It doesn't track my usage and report it back home. I get no ads. I get a wealth of choice as ti how I want it to look and work or just use sane defaults that are good too. I do not need to worry about viruses and malware ANY where near as much. All my software is available through an app store type model instead of needing to go hunting around on strange websites hoping I don't get hacked. It runs lighter than Windows by a long shot as well so I can use my systems resources for more productive things. The list goes on and on. The only reason Windows has any relevance is because of gaming and Valve with the Steam Deck and before that is eating into that. And tank goodness. I cannot wait for others to try out Linux and just see what an OS is like that doesn't fight you but rather lets you do what you want instead!
@chanderule605
@chanderule605 2 года назад
@@GarethMcCumskey You have adds and malware on your windows?
@GarethMcCumskey
@GarethMcCumskey 2 года назад
@@chanderule605 Nope! Because I don't run Windows. However, just because you and I can run a Windows installation without viruses and malware does not mean the average computer user and PC gamer can. If malware wasn't a lucrative business tricking millions of people out of billions of dollars it wouldn't be so prolific.
@GarethMcCumskey
@GarethMcCumskey 2 года назад
​@@chanderule605 Not sure why you feel the need to be so dismissive. Having actual viable options for an OS for gaming on PC is only a good thing for everyone, Microsoft included, but especially the PC gamer. How about less attempted gotchas and a little more willingness to want the ecosystem to change for the better
@batma874
@batma874 2 года назад
Dude....... "...Right?..." should not replace all sentence punctuation. For the love of Jebus.
@macemalakai
@macemalakai 2 года назад
Dude doesn't have a Deck and just said "joysticks are meh, buttons are meh" lol. Great stuff
@jonathansuber1551
@jonathansuber1551 2 года назад
I wonder if you could just like install emulators onto a micro SD card put it into the steam deck have it recognized you have a bunch of stuff there and just play it through the steam OS
@FeRoOOo71
@FeRoOOo71 2 года назад
he didn't even received a unit and make a video about product, nice Austin hit rock bottom now like other Indian channels
@escapetherace1943
@escapetherace1943 2 года назад
Disliking for windows 1000x
@nanopone
@nanopone 2 года назад
i dislike how little you value the work valve has put into linux gaming and are just saying "ill just put windows on it".
@gaiadrazer
@gaiadrazer 2 года назад
8:16 All i ask is the availability . Because the last time Valve sells something. 50% of the world (or maybe more) have no access to their hardware goods. *Ahem.* *index*
@BrettHoTep
@BrettHoTep 2 года назад
Likely most of the people watching this are going to have big steam libraries. Why load windows except as a game pass backup?
@SasukeSpirit
@SasukeSpirit 2 года назад
What Sucks is your "put windows asap" take...
@chanderule605
@chanderule605 2 года назад
Why would you not do it
@SasukeSpirit
@SasukeSpirit 2 года назад
@@chanderule605 Because although possible, the device is not meant to be used that way, you will lose features like OS level FSR, quick resume, console interface and many other features that leverage performance if your intended use is for gaming... you can put windows on it, but there are trade offs for sure. I just don't like the dismissive attitude from these two towards SteamOS as if it was an afterthought while in reality is the heart of the machine.
@chanderule605
@chanderule605 2 года назад
@@SasukeSpirit Oh I see, that's curious
@Herr.Mitternacht
@Herr.Mitternacht 2 года назад
All nice and dandy but where da fk is the Steam Deck Pro???
@saitamapreetsingh3057
@saitamapreetsingh3057 2 года назад
Honestly I want valve to make a comeback in near future with steam machines because now we have proton support and anti-cheat software support too
@futuregadget_v2.1
@futuregadget_v2.1 2 года назад
I think this won't happen. The Steam Machines were just expensive gaming pcs. There was nothing new about them. That's why people didn't buy those. If you own already a gaming pc, you don't buy just another one. The Steam Deck in the opposite, is nothing completely new, handheld pcs already exist, but the way Valve designed it and of course the price they sell it for is something completely new. You can't buy a comparable laptop. But even if you could, it wouldn't be that ergonomic and you would need additionally a proper input device like a gamepad. The Steam Deck is a success, even before it's launch, because it brings something new to us, which people don't already own.
@randgrithr7387
@randgrithr7387 2 года назад
I regret only getting one Steam controller when they were liquidated for $5. It's amazing.
@saitamapreetsingh3057
@saitamapreetsingh3057 2 года назад
@@randgrithr7387 I not from US therefore I had to ask my uncle for steam controller back in 2015 as they work there. I do not often play with it. But it was a cool thing to keep. All the possibilities and customization you can do with it is amazing ! But I guess all of us who bought steam controller will keep it as a good memory.
@Sam_420
@Sam_420 2 года назад
You get free cloud saves with Steam unlike Nintendo
@DeityMicrophones
@DeityMicrophones 2 года назад
Linux Gaming is coming!!!!
@elimedina286
@elimedina286 2 года назад
Dual booting this thing is going to be nice. Maybe even a tripple boot for android games. I wouldnt be surprised if it plays switch games better than an actual switch
@RacksYoungin
@RacksYoungin 2 года назад
*_Hopefully I can play GTA or WWE 2K22 on it_* 😂
@ab.su.7797
@ab.su.7797 2 года назад
Since 4 years i have a Nintendo Switch. Everyday i hope and pray for a Pro Modell, but Nintendo dont want to do there job. So i am really angry and sad selling it. But now i feel free, i feel good, i am so happy to do it. FU Nintendogs. Its time for Dream Deck. Ghostrunner on Deck: 800p FSR Quality Mode 60FPS Raytracing ON Max Settings Nintendo Switch 2 even cant compare to that. Hahaha shame on Nintendo, shame on 2013 Mario Kart 8, shame to all that 2D Wii U Remakes, shame to the Joycon Drift, shame to Voice Chat via App, shame to bad Nintendo Online SHlT, shame to Switch only with a OLED, shame to you Nintendogs!
@NicWir
@NicWir 2 года назад
These Settings won't work
@dramaticmudderer5208
@dramaticmudderer5208 2 года назад
@@NicWir It does actually, gamer nexus did torture tests on stuff like performance and battery (1.5 hours) but these aren't realistic as most won't try this so results could be better or worse for you, ghost runner ran less than 60 fps (40fps) but with fsr it could possibly hit 60
@ab.su.7797
@ab.su.7797 2 года назад
With out FSR its runs on MAX + Raytracing ON at 800p with 40fps AVG. FSR is OS integrated, on Quality Mod the fps 1.5X means 60fps AVG on Max Settings + RT. This is the Future of mobil Gaming and the Results are better than Aya Neo Pro for 1300$. Welcome on Deck!
@doh4828
@doh4828 2 года назад
Steam Deck is the world’s first lapheld.
@bendover460
@bendover460 2 года назад
All that matters is getting away from microsoft and their spying. That is all. I shall use this as my desktop with a dock.
@M64bros
@M64bros 2 года назад
While I'm still thinking about saving up for one I do have one last question for it. I bought Transformers war for Cybertron last year on my Steam account. Can it play transformers WFC?
@pinoycaster1
@pinoycaster1 2 года назад
A decent SD card is still faster than an HDD. Plus the lower resolution doesn't need super fast storage like next gen consoles.
@RandomPlaceHolderName
@RandomPlaceHolderName 2 года назад
It would also be nice if Steam had variable game sizes. I really don't need 4k textures and cutscenes, HD/FHD is fine to me.
@aes1373
@aes1373 2 года назад
Valve can become the "Apple" of gaming in a way. Not from a financial strategy point of view (they sell the steam deck at a loss, very none Apple), but from a hardware and software robustness point of view. Linus mentioned they should make gaming headphones since they tune their speakers so well on their hardware. I can see them making and tuning a gaming laptop with good thermals and battery life. If they plan it correctly, they can have a massive gaming eco system that can rival and surpass MS.
@ukashi694
@ukashi694 2 года назад
Valve is all of Apple's pros, but the opposite from them in that Valve is super open with their hardware and software whereas Apple is very closed down and secretive.
@FlameSilver
@FlameSilver 2 года назад
The constant talk about putting windows on it >.>
@corruptedpoison1
@corruptedpoison1 2 года назад
I'm glade this channel has been revived
@ZackHab
@ZackHab 2 года назад
You can defoi build a better pc for 400, but no screen or controllers. ill prove it if u want
@ZackHab
@ZackHab 2 года назад
i love the steam deck so much btw
@brenegadde1278
@brenegadde1278 2 года назад
Playing left for dead while on the toilet
@MobileDecay
@MobileDecay 2 года назад
Btw. Screw Windows!
@skatcat743
@skatcat743 2 года назад
cope with steam os for a month before installing windows on 64gb of emmc LOL. Most valve will do is release a gpu driver. What incentive do they have to make using an inferior operating system easy?
@H2oAllergicShark
@H2oAllergicShark 2 года назад
Let the other guy speak much??
@artattack5420
@artattack5420 2 года назад
What I wanna know if I can do vr
@pieterlindeque7798
@pieterlindeque7798 2 года назад
Will be practically obsolete in 2 years tops. Check back.
@waffleten9750
@waffleten9750 2 года назад
What does that even mean? Like it's a PC it's still going to be playing games in the future. Think of this like a console. It gets older and the games simply lower the settings so it runs better on it. Same as the Deck but you do it yourself so you have more control.
@bryannichelson2
@bryannichelson2 2 года назад
Ok I can’t wait for my steam deck now. This needs to start shipping. I’ll be checking my email like crazy come the 25th. Hopefully not everyone reserved the top tier so I don’t have to wait all year. Also I now want it in the color on that thumbnail please! 🤤😍
@kakashisan4072
@kakashisan4072 2 года назад
Scalpers are going ham now!! Valve needs to open preorder in different regions asap!
@LegionIscariot
@LegionIscariot 2 года назад
SteamOS/Proton will help gaming on Linux improve (hopefully). SteamApis help add features to games that didn't originally have them, like controller support. Some people see Steam as just a launcher. But its way more than that. Valve and Steam has done alot of heavy lifting to make gaming on pc convenient. Even paving the way for some of their ungrateful competitors. And i think Steam will once again pave the way for easy gaming on Linux. And making pc gaming easier like console gaming.
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