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Asmongold Clips / Asmongold Reacts To: Steam's owner Valve is getting sued for $800+ Million, Gaben is under attack for the stupidest reasons..
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@GhostOfSnuffles 3 месяца назад

For context the people suing Steam own a consultation firm that specializes in consumer practices, they're suing Valve for an issue that doesn't exist so they can try to sell them the solution.

@w1mark275 3 месяца назад

So what you're saying is they're practically sweet baby inc? Huh, the more things change the more they stay the same.

@davids8127 3 месяца назад

wtf

@stefanyuwono1909 3 месяца назад

Typical Mafia Tactics. "That's a nice window you got there, so shiny and clear. Easy to look at the product you're selling. It will be a shame if if gets vandalized, or heaven forbid, cracked. Can you imagine how much it would cost to get it replaced? we provide protections services against that sort of things, you know."

@roughnegg6615 3 месяца назад

Freaking snake oil merchants.

@JayBigDadyCy 3 месяца назад

I have nfc how these people sleep at night. They must be pathological liars.

@Pyrotrainthing 3 месяца назад

This lady would sue a lightbulb company because she bought the wrong lightbulb.

@caldex1557 3 месяца назад

wrong lightbulb? no she wanted to buy a lamp.

@mrfuzzerkins4170 3 месяца назад

@@caldex1557 she would buy a powercord to that lamp and sue for not having an outlet or lamp connected to it.

@phosphate66 3 месяца назад

can i get in on this lawsuit......

@supermaster2012 3 месяца назад

The lady is representing her constituents, she's a politician. Blame the people who brought it up not the messenger.

@JTD472 3 месяца назад

She would sue anybody she gets paid to sue probably (or represents etc), yes

@qaaris4280 3 месяца назад

TL;DR They can't compete with Steam because they don't treat their customers with respect and have no idea it's that easy.

@DOOMED166 3 месяца назад

Whats tl dr

@jojitcamero1705 3 месяца назад

@@DOOMED166 I think it's like "Too Long;Didn't Read" correct me if I'm wrong

@yoshaki 3 месяца назад

@@DOOMED166To Long Didn't Read

@DOOMED166 3 месяца назад

@jojitcamero1705 ohhhh thanks I always wondered

@bl00dknight26 3 месяца назад

@@jojitcamero1705 it is.

@prozoomy 3 месяца назад

What a waste on a lawsuit.

@MrVvulf 3 месяца назад

Attorney's on both sides the only ones who come out ahead.

@eldenvedetta635 3 месяца назад

@@MrVvulf I hope Steam countersues. It's not like the UK government uses money for anything good.

@Akhelium 3 месяца назад

@@eldenvedetta635 It's not the UK government suing steam, but a random consumer association or some shit. Pirate software has a video where he explains everything and who is behind it.

@cannedsquasher5923 3 месяца назад

Meanwhile games do so much that is worse and these governments do hardly anything about it. At most all they every do is talk about maybe doing sobering.

@zeraith 3 месяца назад

@@Akhelium Could you please tell me the Pirate Software vod and whereabouts in it this discussion is? I'd much appreciate it.

@the98themperoroftheholybri33 3 месяца назад

Englishman here, yes, our politicians are mentally deficient.

@blackyonbi 3 месяца назад

I think it's a world wide epidemy. How do these people get so far in life is way out of my understanding.

@ClawManV3 3 месяца назад

Same in the U.S. It's almost like politicians are completely detached from reality these days.🤦‍♂

@jabrockobiden9434 3 месяца назад

All of them have always been. Politicians are evil people

@dominikmagnus 3 месяца назад

@@ClawManV3 Always were.

@ladislavtrojan8765 3 месяца назад

Not only politicians...

@BButcher-hg4nr 3 месяца назад

You remember how Gaben has to do nothing and still wins? Just let it cook, he can't be stopped.

@memsysr 3 месяца назад

Gabe is retiring soon, so the clock is ticking.

@txflood2519 3 месяца назад

Unfortunately, while the win is inevitable, this still costs Valve a dumb amount of money in court.

@DookJob 3 месяца назад

@@memsysr It doesnt matter, private companies are usually just built different, just look at costco.

@DanteVerde-pt9zc 3 месяца назад

@@txflood2519 Eh they'll make it back with CS2 skins

@extreme123dz 3 месяца назад

@@DookJob No, the point is, the man disapears, Steam little by Little will get fucked from inside, this is not the first time we see this from other sectors unless the new one not only follow the steps, the emntality and care the oriignal vision, but improve it for the good in general.

@JP61982 3 месяца назад

Lmao suing Steam for being consumer friendly.

@JustaNobody-j8x 3 месяца назад

That’s like suing a clown for being funny. In a universe that doesn’t care, it’s all pointless anyway. Just enjoy the absurdity.

@XBullitt16X 3 месяца назад

Yep, that's what it sounds like.

@WeaselJCD 3 месяца назад

Because someone in Australia sued steam you got refunds. They didn't do this out of the kindness of their hearts, they were ordered by a court to do so

@kharnifex 3 месяца назад

It's a good thing, I hope steam is disabled on the UK, so we don't have to put up with them on our servers.

@ChozoBrain 3 месяца назад

Old woman has nothing to do because she's all dried up.

@professorgoat1099 3 месяца назад

It's easy to understand why she is doing this when you research her.. Vicki Shotbolt is the CEO of the consultant firm "The Parent Zone." She has a history of declaring things a problem (that no one else sees) then selling the solution.

@MangaGamified 3 месяца назад

What is the UK board of law doing letting her still hold a license? That kind of overeager righteousness should be in north-korea or china locally with actualy real life slayvery.

@TurtleShroom3 3 месяца назад

I looked up her organization and... there's nothing wrong with it. At all. In fact, I'd say it does good. This lawsuit is ridiculous, most certainly, but that doesn't make her organization bad.

@Volkaer 3 месяца назад

@@MangaGamified Haven't you been paying attention? UK is jailing people for thought crimes, they are already North Korea - only with previously acquired wealth, no sanctions, better technology, and people can still leave. As far as principles of freedom and liberty are concerned though, they are already there.

@jesusvz4445 3 месяца назад

Parent Zone have big Sponsors one of them is Google, remember Steam shuts down Google analytics from its platform. That is my conspiracy theory lol.

@ricardohoang8452 2 месяца назад

@@TurtleShroom3 Good for what? More lawsuits 🙃

@Razer5542 3 месяца назад

"Shutting out any competition" It's not Valve's fault that the competition is providing a worse service 😂

@Bakuryu0083 3 месяца назад

Not Valve's vault that their "competition" can't compete. Hell, Steam is a great example for a service template for online media. yet everyone tries to re-invent the wheel and cry that no one likes their buggy, broken mess of a service.

@Tarheb 3 месяца назад

@@Bakuryu0083 "their product is just too good, that's not fair, we can't make one that good, i'm going to sue them" - lol

@laurenz6760 3 месяца назад

They can still cut 1 and 3 out. Just because they offer a good service doesn't mean they should take more than they need

@Dr.AvenVon 3 месяца назад

the best thing is, it isn't even all that hard to make a service better than steam. it is just that everyone else for some reason, tries to make the worst service imaginable. remember when the epic launcher didn't had a shopping cart?

@cy-one 3 месяца назад

@@laurenz6760 *" doesn't mean they should take more than they need"* That method is called capitalism. It's *based* on taking more than you need (because that's what "profit" is).

@SigmarWarhammer 3 месяца назад

"Valve doesnt let you buy DLC for steam games from rival platforms" ...well...yes if you buy a game on steam you can only use it and buy DLC on steam...why is this keep happening? Why do they put people in positions of power who have no idea how this industrie works? Its so annoying...

@NerdRate 3 месяца назад

why doesn't buying a car at the company X, Allow me to claim warranty claims with company Y. haha

@rodigomedina1079 3 месяца назад

they're most likely looking for an easy settlement and pocket some cash, the instant steam fails to get the case dismissed then it becomes cheaper to pay these people to just drop their case rather than go trhough court

@yummychips_ 3 месяца назад

i could be wrong, but I believe the DLC thing is just dev dependent. I remember some games, you can get the DLC from anywhere, as long as the dev has a steam key generated for the DLC key. You can get access to it from steam. Even if you don't want to have your DLC go through steam, you can still add the files to the game, and turn off updates from steam. It is a roundabout way, but you can the idea of not letting you buy DLC from rival platforms seems like a lie. At most, its likely other platforms lock the DLC to prevent it from going through steam.

@AnonD38 3 месяца назад

@@rodigomedina1079But it would also set a precedent that Steam pays you even if you lawsuit is complete bogus. It would invite more people to try the same.

@rinaldo7618 3 месяца назад

@@yummychips_ yeah using cream api etc to get dlc if u dont have dlc but requirement is must have file dlc

@Trehlas 3 месяца назад

Sooo... people who don't understand the gaming industry are suing the game industry?

@sofakingimmature 3 месяца назад

Actually, it sounds more like people not understanding industry in general. It like they don't know what MSRP (manufacturer suggested retail price) is. This push and pull about pricing is a normal part of business. Stores won't take on a product if they know that the manufacturer is offering it cheaper to another chain

@ricardohoang8452 3 месяца назад

@@sofakingimmature most brexit thing like ever. Yet they still stepped in that skill issue craps 😂

@skuripandaburns3489 3 месяца назад

@sofakingimmature except this isn't even the case of "selling it cheaper on another chain". It's "using one chain's storage space, personnel, distribution network, and then selling THAT cheaper on another chain."

@Zanoladab 3 месяца назад

i dont understand if they win the lawsuit and obviously they wont but IF they do... who actually gets the money. because im sure the players who were "overcharged" certainly wont. im sorry in advance since i dont know jack about laws

@milyu995 3 месяца назад

They don't care, they just want money

@Clader213 3 месяца назад

Gaben proves again that he can win by simply sitting back and do nothing.

@ericsai744 3 месяца назад

Counter-Strike 2 and Team Fortress 2 get em outta here, decade long games deserve their eos for the foreseeable future. The bot problem ain't Valve's problem to deal with anymore. They tried with VAC and it didn't work, the treadmill work was clearly pointless 🤑

@joohyunkyoung5905 3 месяца назад

If Valve does treadmill work than they could control the bot problem. Valve just doesn’t want to do it and they gain profit even without doing it.

@Samagachi 3 месяца назад

Just like Luigi

@XenoSpyro 3 месяца назад

@@ericsai744 Notice how this problem is largely limited to automated matchmaking. Nothing responds to twenty different people calling a cheater out faster than a pissed off server admin.

@vbgfrnc 3 месяца назад

He actually did a thing and changed TOS that buying games on steam is not actually buying but borrowing in case of dumb lawsuit like this 😅

@owencmyk 3 месяца назад

As a developer on Steam, I'd like to say for the record that DRM has to be explicitly enabled by the developer, and many games choose not to do this. As an example: ULTRAKILL comes with no DRM whatsoever on Steam, you could zip the game and send it to your friend if you wanted and it would boot just fine (though obviously that would be illegal). If a game has DRM, it's because the developer explicitly chose to add DRM to it. It is not Steam's choice to make

@Diviance 3 месяца назад

I first noticed this being the case (I had never thought about it before despite having an account for 8 years already at that point) when, back when it came out, I had copied my modded Starbound install to another hdd prior to formatting my drive and reinstalling Windows... and didn't think about installing Steam and just went to the folder and started playing Starbound, not thinking a thing about it. Until I went to go play something else in Steam and noticed I hadn't installed it yet.

@Voyajer. 3 месяца назад

Yup, a lot of games dont have DRM on steam (KSP was the first one I noticed it on, definitely copied that onto my old school laptop to play in class way back when lol)

@ConformistOwl 3 месяца назад

Yeah the Witcher 3 for the longest time had no DRM whatsover either; I think that changed when they added the launcher, but before you could even refund the game and still play it.

@PyroCatus 3 месяца назад

You are right, I tried running some old game I got from steam and the exe run just fine even when I closed the steam launcher.

@OsinakiKun 3 месяца назад

🔥Culture shouldn't exist only for those who can afford it🔥

@tyrians 3 месяца назад

As a 'uk gamer', I'm absolutely up in arms at the fact that Valve is getting blasted with stupid shit like this. Especially the 30% sale bullshit, as if literally every other company doesn't, besides Epic because they want to be 'special' and take Steam's customers. Meanwhile Epic's 'timed exclusive' bullshit is ridiculously consumer unfriendly practices, forcing people to go to their store, while Epic tries to throw accusations of consumer unfriendly practices that make no sense in comparison to their own and get's Valve in trouble. Fucking hypocrites'.

@macbethhm 3 месяца назад

Because someone in Australia sued steam you now have refunds. They didn't do this out of the kindness of their hearts, they were ordered by a court to do so. Educate yourself.

@tyrians 3 месяца назад

@@macbethhm That has absolutely zero to do with the comment I made above, the lawsuit they're currently under, or the current state of affairs regarding steam. Given that was implemented ten years ago at this point.

@johnjohn5187 3 месяца назад

“Steam is taking advantage of PC gamers.” Well, that’s quite a thing that was said.

@shadow_realm47 3 месяца назад

they are but the conveniences out weigh the cons by a lot! Sales and having your whole collection at one place for one.. You can even save your keys or the entire game on a hardrive and have a whole collection of pre 2015 retro games in one place.The only huge con they have is Skyrim cant be modded through the steam community thingy properly anymore and epic games has nicer sales sometimes.

@kangarooninja2594 3 месяца назад

It was definitely one of the most things ever said.

@wowyomad 3 месяца назад

I agree. Of all the things that were said, it is indeed one of them

@pauljerome01 3 месяца назад

Steam IS TAKING advantage of players with outrageous deals with 90% off game, so shocking.

@Obscurite1221 3 месяца назад

@@shadow_realm47 The Skyrim issue isn't valve's fault though, that's on Bethesda.

@kerianhalcyon2769 3 месяца назад

People want Steam gone not because it's rigged but because it's the only thing standing between big game companies and being able to get away with bullshit like charging for ammo reloads or time played. And it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if this activist is receiving financial incentive from groups like Epic to try and push this lawsuit. Looking forward to when it inevitably flops.

@Wolf-fighter 3 месяца назад

steam is like the only really liked and praised gaming platform. gaben is like some kind of god to gamers lol

@kerianhalcyon2769 3 месяца назад

@@Wolf-fighter Considering the reputation he and Valve have made over the years, it's probably with good reason. Don't get me wrong, Valve aren't perfect. I'm still mad that TF2's in a state of necromantic limbo because of the MTX and Community Market hat trade that goes on there, the game just kind of needs to die at this point. But when your competitors want to remove property ownership of games (Ubisoft), force bonkers exclusivity deals on devs despite prior customer purchases (Epic), and have legitimately discussed how to make it possible to pay to reload your gun in a shooter (EA), those gripes are inconveniences at best.

@danniton9831 3 месяца назад

That charging for ammo is one of the most rage inducing BS a big company has ever tried to introduced.

@Insanecorn 3 месяца назад

@@danniton9831 It's EA. They have been money grubbers for years and have a good kill count of franchises due to trying to chase a trend or force a game in some braindead direction(generals 2 going f2p and then going to die as mobile being 1).

@Insanecorn 3 месяца назад

Gotta remember this lawsuit is pretty much just copying the homework of that lawsuit in the USA. It's still going on and this one is trying to make the same claims.

@edwinvoncarstein 3 месяца назад

First time that I can unironically say "leave the multibilion corporation alone!"

@kaden-sd6vb 3 месяца назад

The only time you can say it and NOT be an absolute clown

@CrashCraftLabs 3 месяца назад

ikr, i hate corps but steam is and always has been the best platform for online gaming since its release.

@dregothic 3 месяца назад

@CrashCraftLabs it's not really a corp though. It's still privately owned and honestly that's probably what makes it better as it's not beholden to shareholders to just make a profit no matter what like EA or Epic.

@abra2133 3 месяца назад

it's not a corp tho, it's a private company, thats why it's the best

@snuffeldjuret 3 месяца назад

@@kaden-sd6vb leave spacex alone is also 100% legit.

@Jeff-cn9up 3 месяца назад

Gabe has said that if Steam had to shut down, there's a plan and money in place to allow servers to run so people can download their content for a long time AND that every game that can be, would be updated to allow offline play and storage without the Steam client being needed. He gets it.

@cheddarsunchipsyes8144 3 месяца назад

@vastorogisthe games on steam literally downloads files…

@attackmaster519 3 месяца назад

@vastorogis Considering Steam's track record? Yes, I absolutely do. That said, if people want to push for that to put down in legal writing, for transparency and good faith, I'd support it 100 percent. But Valve as it currently stands? Yes, I trust them, about as much as I can really trust any corporation.

@PIVfirestarkproducon 3 месяца назад

@vastorogis yeah i do trust that lmao

@pureityXXX 3 месяца назад

@vastorogis I do believe that considering you are wrong and have no idea what you are talking about.

@Jeff-cn9up 3 месяца назад

@vastorogis Yes. I believe Gabe has plans to do the right thing. He's always done right by fellow gamers so far.

@stanzelot 3 месяца назад

One of the reasons I buy as many games as possible from GOG is the fact that I have an offline Backup copy and do not need to start the client to play, but only for updates and the initial installation.

@thedeveIoper 3 месяца назад

As a dev, I gladly pay Steam their cut because it includes support, hosting, distribution, and exposure to a massive user base. Hosting our own solution for selling our games would be far more costly and less effective, especially if we somehow were to get large amounts of traffic.

@kivie13 3 месяца назад

After seeing what these gaming companies/corporations have done recently I would like to see more devs support GoG. I prefer owning my games. Bethesda drove me to that platform after they patched my 13 year old Skyrim to break it because they wanted to shove their corporate greed down everyone's throats through their creation club.

@beardalaxy 3 месяца назад

@@kivie13 devs don't actually have to use DRM on Steam. GOG forces them to not use it, but they don't have to on Steam. There are a lot of games that can be played without the Steam client even being open.

@kane_lives 3 месяца назад

@@beardalaxy You forgot to mention that the opposite is true as well: there's also a lot of games that did not force you to start the Steam app, but eventually started to, even if you launch the .exe binary directly from a game's folder.

@Fickji 3 месяца назад

@@beardalaxy I thought the DRM thing was a developer decision and had nothing to do with Steam. Kinda like how there are games that I can play offline vs online but that has more to do with how developers set up their games and not really about Steam. Always fun when the internet goes out and you realize just how many games you have installed that are just dead weight now.

@RaiosSephi 3 месяца назад

And as far as I've heard, and kindly confirm it... Steam assists various developers to the best they can until release

@percinatto 3 месяца назад

Look at her face, it screams Karen. What could we expected from someone like that?

@engagex1 3 месяца назад

> getting attacked > Still does nothing > Wins!

@malfolin 3 месяца назад

Overcharge? The literal developers overcharge for the games, valve is not setting any prices there, it's solely on the developer to make the price of the game affordable in many countries.

@MrWapadar 3 месяца назад

Sounds like she has no idea what she's talking about and needs to settle down

@shadow_realm47 3 месяца назад

she's just yapping like a boomer on a real lawsuit.

@marcogenovesi8570 3 месяца назад

classic politicians

@MangaGamified 3 месяца назад

She needs to excercise her righteousness lawyerism in North-korea or China locally, personally, face-to-face where it needs them the most, like there's literal slayvery there. Not in a country where even trivial semantics can get you sued.

@joeplayer8980 3 месяца назад

Besides using Steam to download games (which on GOG would be done through a web browser) Valve doesn't impose any DRM requirements on developers. Games like Kerbal Space Program work perfectly fine if you download them through Steam, take the game files from wherever Steam installed them, put them on an entirely different PC (that doesn't even have Steam installed) and just launch it through the exe. The PCGamingWiki has a "List of DRM-free games on Steam" article.

@MangaGamified 3 месяца назад

still gives me anxiety where either steam, publisher and dev could have a change of heart anytime, and any of those three could leave the game/app you paid for fully unusable, like that recent Adobe ToS debacle. I had 🏴‍☠Photshop cc 2017 and it never betrayed me, the irony indie games/apps has lower chance of betrayal. I'm pretty sure unity marketplace and UE marketplace has no DRM, and lets you use anyversion at any point in time. So if a dev/publisher changed of heart, then you can always use the older version before their change of heart.

@diffe 3 месяца назад

GOG Galaxy exists you know.

@jamesrgamesoffical 3 месяца назад

@@diffe yeah but it isn't necessary

@nowayjosedaniel 3 месяца назад

"Besides the most invasive and horrible DRM possible, Steam doesnt force devs to use additional layers of DRM." You SteamCultists are something else.

@Spartan536 3 месяца назад

This lawsuit is not going to work out well even in a UK court

@WookieWarriorz 3 месяца назад

fuck does even in a uk court mean. Uk had courts before the usa was a fucking country lol. Kangaroo ass us court system would ask valve if steam can access the internet.

@waverider4524 3 месяца назад

@@WookieWarriorz salty european detected

@ominouslatinnoun9939 3 месяца назад

⁠⁠@@WookieWarriorzThe fuck you on about? Him saying a “UK Court” is just him saying a specific court system. Since not all court systems will work the same since, obviously, different countries have different ways of operating. In no way was the original comment trying to imply the US invented the idea of courts or anything like that. If anything, you’re the one out here making a problem out of nothing. It’s not that deep man, it’s not that deep.

@xebakyr8991 3 месяца назад

@@WookieWarriorz UK courts are bad. Johnny Depp & Amber Heard.

@monarch7272 3 месяца назад

@@WookieWarriorzwhat the fuck are you on about lmao

@divinecomedian2 3 месяца назад

Another NPC who doesn't understand the free market. Steam is so popular because they're providing value to gamers.

@CaptainLian 3 месяца назад

With how much steam has developed the Linux community, the person suing the company is a dumbass.

@iori6920 3 месяца назад

Valve wins because no other company wants to put gamers first. Other storefronts are just that-storefronts. Steam is an entire ecosystem of tools, mods, achievements and community features. They also have regional pricing, which is great for people living in third-world countries. Not to mention that they're the only ones who think about Linux at all, even using it to create their own handheld. Meanwhile, Epic just throws money at developers in exchange for exclusivity deals. Skill issue.

@Wolf-fighter 3 месяца назад

ssteam also got a review system that players can review a game. which is actually real honest reviews and opinions on games. people actually look at that. not at the crap game "journalists" make . thanks to these relevant reviews from actuall players no one cares anymore about any online sites reporting on games and writing bulshit

@solanumtuberosa 3 месяца назад

I mean, gog is great. But lack of regional pricing and most big publishers not wanting to release games drm free hurts them.

@fr33kSh0w2012 3 месяца назад

@@solanumtuberosa They friggin deserve to be deserted, sick of their nasty mind games and power plays.

@kyotra 3 месяца назад

@@solanumtuberosa That's just the sacrifice GoG makes in order to corner their market niche - I doubt they're bothered by it.

@SansSentiments 3 месяца назад

@@Wolf-fighter they even made reviewbombing something useful for customers and to-be customers with their "uh-oh, seems like a lot of people have had a real issue with the game recently, here is what we know:[...]"

@kkjjqrysdgadff7782 3 месяца назад

Steam "Hey, let's make a platform that lets people play their games in one place and has cool ways to track achievements and such. In addition, let's get big enough that we can force game companies to offer their products on our platform at only reasonable prices. On top of that, let's frequently discount games to basically zero dollars so more people can play them. And.. if they don't like them, they can just return for a full refund." Steam is a freaking great app.

@NerdRate 3 месяца назад

don't forget regional pricing to allow gamers in less privileged countries to be able to enjoy gaming at an affordable price tag for their region.

@lmcgregoruk 3 месяца назад

Achievements were added to be more like Xbox, considering most games have the SAME achievements for games released on Xbox and PC, and Steam refunds were because they lost $3 million in Australian court, NOT because they wanted to do something nice for the consumer.

@AnonD38 3 месяца назад

@@lmcgregorukIf you don't buy a crap game you don't need to refund it. I bought like 200 games on steam and of those I refunded like 1, only to end up buying it again later. The refund option isn't necessary if you properly inform yourself about what game you're about to buy.

@esra013 3 месяца назад

@@AnonD38 Is this the same principle you have for car warranty or just any other warranty in general?

@AnonD38 3 месяца назад

@@esra013 I perhaps didn't clarify properly, but I specifically meant the Steam refund, not refund policies in general.

@Volkaer 3 месяца назад

Typical example of what happens when you give Karen too much power.

@conconc 3 месяца назад

Steam is one of the few good things gamers still have, can the UK relax bro

@shaftinc8739 3 месяца назад

They wont wind anyway. Steam is just too big too fail and these people are just looking for a quick buck

@DeadMeat991 3 месяца назад

They did some low key censorship in the recent years. I hope they won't again.

@dendrien 3 месяца назад

The entire case is bogus consider it specify that only UK getting used while’s everyone else aren’t. So basically it is a false accusation considering that the UK treatment are no different from the rest of the world. Only UK sees this as a problem but not anyone else

@tokusatsukeyblade797 3 месяца назад

It’s not even the UK government, it’s some rando from an activist group that doesn’t know squat about how the gaming market works.

@criert135 3 месяца назад

The US has exactly the same thing going on against Steam

@LKOnyx 3 месяца назад

Of ALL the game companies to sue, fucking valve was the first one that crossed their mind. Not the game companies that make "AAAA" games at a standard $70 price despite them normally being completely unfinished and then normally having the gall to add extra monetization features to drain more money out of consumers pockets. None of those guys were even brought up. No you sued valve because they follow what is essentially the market standard for sales cuts, are normally considered the better option over the majority of other competitors because no shit, and because they don't let you use add ons you buy from other digital storefronts for games you bought on steam (that last one really showing just how much most politicians know about the game industry in general)

@ConformistOwl 3 месяца назад

She's not even a politician, she's just a random activist who made a "company" to host a blog... the only thing she even seemed to bother talking about video games before this was the constantly growing micro-transaction issue... she has no real stake in suing Steam; this is done for ulterior motives or sheer ignorance.

@Insanecorn 3 месяца назад

Nah she's suing steam as there is already a lawsuit in the USA with pretty much the exact same shit. They are just going for their piece of the pie and hoping that there is some supposed legitimacy.

@fr33kSh0w2012 3 месяца назад

I would have chose bethsoft because they shaft customers all the time and they killed PREY 2

@LightsCameraJake 3 месяца назад

Gabe is so consumer friendly, hes getting sued for it, wtf 😂

@Derekloffin 3 месяца назад

Smells like someone trying to fish for a settlement by having a case that just might survive initial dismissal.

@grygaming5519 3 месяца назад

Or was paid by another corporation to go fishing *cough* Sony *cough*

@tokusatsukeyblade797 3 месяца назад

@@grygaming5519, I was thinking more along the lines of Epic, but that works too.

@mr.meatsoup5639 3 месяца назад

@@grygaming5519 Stinks more like Epic Games to me

@Insanecorn 3 месяца назад

@@grygaming5519 Remember that case in the USA is still active and has the same shit pretty much. Without the expansion silliness the USA lawsuit focused on the other 2 and other silly claims.

@Karloss00 3 месяца назад

This is what happens when you've got someone in their 50s/60s who doesn't understand the gaming industry. I don't want to use the term "Good Guys" for any corporation, but out of all the companies out there, Valve is definitely up there in the "Good Guys" category. Yet the bullshit the likes of Bethesda, Ubisoft and Sony try to pull always gets swept under the rug.

@faisfaizal5194 3 месяца назад

It's also thanks to Steam not being publicly traded. Those big game industry companies only do things to appeal to the shareholders, not to the benefit of the consumers

@Bluestripsenclavelove 3 месяца назад

@@faisfaizal5194Nope they do what the commies tell them

@e56hdyhdfgh 3 месяца назад

Gee, I wonder who is putting her up and/or bankrolling her for this.... Valve is one of the ultra rare exceptions where they aren't actively looking for ways to fuck over their consumer base for the immediate payout, they have always played the long game. I am no shill, but the comparison is night and day in this industry. Everyone else is so pathetic, they basically can do nothing and print money and favor with their customers. The "competition" actually just makes it EASIER for Valve.

@grygaming5519 3 месяца назад

The only company I can think of right now that may have a proverbial knife out for Steam is Sony. After Sony tried to pull the wool over Steam on Helldivers 2, it makes more sense that Sony Gaming would try to undermine Steam's position. They see the company as a threat, and thinking by using political grease (payoffs) they can get their way.

@Bakuryu0083 3 месяца назад

most companies want a lump sum of money right now, while Valve is working on the "instead of $1,000 NOW and that's it. I'll take $100 a week, forever." and it's working.

@fabiorohden1733 3 месяца назад

This is also largely due to the fact that Valve isn't a publicly traded company, so they don't have to appease any shareholders.

@whytho1690 3 месяца назад

YUP. Winners win.

@thousandyoung 3 месяца назад

Indeed, the Publishers or Devs are always trying to fuck you up even while using Steam though lol.

@lunchbox997 3 месяца назад

every game i care thats on GOG i buy there even if i own it on steam, I can back it up to offline drive and leave it there whenever i want to play it.

@gundamdetractor337 3 месяца назад

activists doing wrong things, why what a surprise, huh.

@DrNiradino 3 месяца назад

30% cut isn't excessive, it's a standard practice. It's even quite cheap, considering that steam acts like a publisher and store for indie developers. 12% EGS cut, that everyone likes to bring up, wasn't proven to be financially viable, since EGS was in the red since launch up until today and in any foreseeable future. They only exist due to Unreal engine cuts and Fortnite microtranzactions.

@Dice-Z 3 месяца назад

Talking out of your ass 101

@HUSK3RGAM3R 3 месяца назад

Politicians being stupid, what else is new.

@Cartoonman154 3 месяца назад

Consumer rights group, not government.

@styx953 3 месяца назад

@@Cartoonman154 What consumers are they protecting the rights of tho? Dosen't quite add up.

@thousandyoung 3 месяца назад

@@Cartoonman154 Nah, it's Paid Goons. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Clony Crooked Entertainment paid these "Activists" since the U.K. is their Main Goon Base.

@MangaGamified 3 месяца назад

Aside from new higher prices of stuff and lesser jobs, nothing actually.

@KnotsOfWonders 3 месяца назад

2:06 GOG Dragon Age is the best version btw, that's 3 dollas for like 100+ hours of Bioware magic.

@Matt15199 3 месяца назад

The good Dragon Age as well, 2 and 3 weren't fantastic.

@JesiAsh 3 месяца назад

@@Matt15199 Its actually getting worse with each release... 4 will be trash. 1 Had good story and combat/locations, 2 had good story and bad combat/locations, 3 had bad story and combat/locations with exception of Solas DLC Second game got some hate but it had Rivalry/Friendship. You could be a totall ass, you cold be an antimage with a mage in your party as example and you woud progress with them normally while getting interesting interactions or even romance. Both DAO and Inquisition lacked that and are painfully linear when it comes to relationships/romaces. Playing nice 24/7 is getting boring very fast... even more when you are sucking up to everyone no matter what they think. First you approach templar supporter and agree that mages should be locked and then you go to mage supporter telling him how they should be free - idiotic system that lack fun of picking new dialogue choices.

@thefrankring 3 месяца назад

I feel like digital ownership needs to happen on a personal level, not through a company.

@eternalinsignia 3 месяца назад

The funny thing about all of these points in lawsuits is basically more developer dependent than steam even for DLC. Some games even do (albeit a lot of it is an adult game) use an outside patch (or you can say dlc nowadays) to apply dlc/patch to unlock certain things or other example is a lot of games with steam twitch integration, forum integration, etc. How to detect that the user applicable to use the DLC is developer/publisher problem (even if they use steam) and not steam.

@monathehegehog7404 3 месяца назад

the only issue I have with Steam is that their policy doesn't allow you to give your account to someone else if you pass away, but that information was given to me with holes so there might be more to it

@BlackJoe222 2 месяца назад

Couldn't you just tell someone your password? I don't understand how you couldn't give your account to someone else.

@kpzz1545 3 месяца назад

Is it really now my turn to shout: “Leave the multibillion dollar company alone!”...?

@jaideepshekhar4621 3 месяца назад

Because everyone else is far worse.

@skitzseattle 3 месяца назад

"Takes advantage of UK gamers" -How much does this lawsuit pay out to UK gamers?

@tylerdobson7868 3 месяца назад

As a Steam user in the UK for almost 10 years I don't feel scammed at all, always fairly priced goods, massive sales throughout the year. The woman who is pushing the lawsuit is widely disliked here for a similar situation 6 or 7 years ago with a computer hardware distributor.

@edmardisla8492 3 месяца назад

@@tylerdobson7868 Oh, so it's a repetition. I see.

@whackronomicon 3 месяца назад

Zero. If she were to somehow win, the lawyers and her campaign(?) would get all of it.

@MangaGamified 3 месяца назад

@@tylerdobson7868 what is the UK board of law doing there? why are they still letting her hold a license?

@trygveplaustrum4634 3 месяца назад

*On the one hand, the UK has no case.* *On the other hand, nobody in charge of the UK knows the first thing about technology, so…*

@SuperfluousIndividual 3 месяца назад

Steam next year: _Yeah, we're shutting down our business in the UK. We don't like being sued by corporate lobbyists, sorry guys. Wish you the best with EGS and what not._

@w1mark275 3 месяца назад

Steam: Steam CD keys in UK now cost 30% of the listed price instead of free. "You can sell our products whatever price you want, you just have to buy them first"

@onEmEmbErstudios 3 месяца назад

*UK gamers installing games from Steam* Steam: "Oops, sorry, mate! This item is currently unavailable in your region, you brit"

@criert135 3 месяца назад

Yeah? Would they do the same in the US do you reckon? They are being sued in the US as well.

@w1mark275 3 месяца назад

@@criert135 It doesn't make any sense at all, there is absolutely no reason steam needs to provide keys to their developers which can be sold to other platforms, for free mind you. it's not anti-competitive, it's pro-competitive, the market literally wouldn't exist if steam decided they no longer wanted off-platform steam key sellers.

@criert135 3 месяца назад

@@w1mark275 Sure, should Steam shut down business in the US then? Or make Steam CD keys in the US cost 30% more?

@daninater1 3 месяца назад

As a UK person, I don't know what they are on about

@lawrencefrost9063 3 месяца назад

When people attack Valve or Gaben, it's like attacking someone EVERYONE loves. You will gain nothing and only generate haters against you. Steam did nothing wrong. Lord Gaben is the Lord. Valve is the GOAT of video-game companies.

@enutrofdude 3 месяца назад

Not everyone loves Valve and Gaben. Some people don't like them. However, they are weird people and I am wary of them.

@baraka629 3 месяца назад

i remember the PC Master Race subreddit had a big ass picture of Gaben as a superhero in a spandex suit as it's banner. That quickly disappeared when Valve tried to make paid mods a thing on Steam. Lesson is: there are no kings and no gods, just men. Today's heroes could very much become tomorrow's villains. It is principles that matter, not some logo or company ID in the IRS registry. As long as steam cares for it's customers first, customers will defend steam. Good will takes years to build up and a slip up to lose.

@reptiliannoizezz.413 3 месяца назад

@@baraka629 Hell, their good image is already starting to get lost on me due to the whole TF2 situation

@lycanwarrior2137 3 месяца назад

@@reptiliannoizezz.413 Steam fanboys are absolutely the worst hypocrites. They make Sony Ponies and Xbots seem like saints in comparison lol.

@leoSaunders 2 месяца назад

@@lycanwarrior2137 no clue but yaps

@belakanej 3 месяца назад

"If you buy a diesel car you cant run it on gasoline"

@theload5853 3 месяца назад

Can I sue Vicki Shotbolt for shutting out any competition by forcing her version of digital rights on me and not allow any other form of digitals rights to exist?

@cirescythe 3 месяца назад

Funny how Microsoft gets away with basically being a monopoly.

@thousandyoung 3 месяца назад

And by Selling Malware

@FMHikari 3 месяца назад

The reason you can't use DLC from other platforms, is very simple, and more than one: 1- They don't have any reliable way of authorizing it, because no competitor would bother building such a bond between two stores on the same platform. 2- Buy on Epic or another store, Download on Steam? Yeah, it will use Steam's servers, which means the other store could make unfair profit by not actually having servers and leaving all the load to Steam, while Steam pays all the hosting bills with zero gain.

@miirico5398 3 месяца назад

Doubt they have a fucking chance with that lawsuit with that shitty ass take.

@zam_da 3 месяца назад

As unlikely as it is, if valve decides they don't want to deal with any of this and says "fuck this, fuck the uk" and ends service in the uk, its only their citizens that are going to be negatively impacted

@Wolf-fighter 3 месяца назад

like the a**hole politicians in germany who ruined the steam store by having all sexual content (especially ero anime) games baned from the german stream store >:>

@brianpancotto8829 3 месяца назад

and even then, they still couldn't win a lawsuit against valve.

@marcogenovesi8570 3 месяца назад

they can probably just pay with the spare change laying around in Gabe's couch, but this is a matter of principle

@gondorianslayer4250 3 месяца назад

Becareful what you wish for

@outforbeer 3 месяца назад

Dev don’t have to sell via steam but on their own website. I fail to see how steam is a monopoly on pc

@cianmerluccio2057 3 месяца назад

The editor and Thor explained it better than asmongold. He is just there

@marcogenovesi8570 3 месяца назад

This is the editor's channel, Asmon is just the dancing monkey

@heyguyslolGAMING 3 месяца назад

I touched grass today...

@RamzaBehoulve 3 месяца назад

In Switzerland, we have a government office specialised in pricing. When I complained and showed evidence of Steam prices in the country as nearly always higher than EU for no reason, the government literally answered there is enough competition to get cheaper prices and to go get my keys on instant--gaming or G2A. Yes, G2A. The Swiss government litteraly legalised unofficial keys.

@Dice-Z 3 месяца назад

Oh yikes. Officially endorsing potentially chargeback'd keys is next level absurd.

@leoSaunders 2 месяца назад

what are you talking about. Every Steam key is sanctioned by Steam that only the developer can ask for.

@MySkandal 3 месяца назад

So far i hear stupid reasons and nothing tangible

@MrDrekki 3 месяца назад

WRONG ! to the chatter who says if steam shuts down you lose everything.... TIME and TIME again, you have to educate people, steam and valve have a killswitch in place if the company was ever to shutdown, that would remove all DRMS from ALL of your library, meaning that yes, you could download the actual gamefiles with the .exe and yes that's also how you can play steamgames while having no internet connections, basicly you'd get a GOG copy of your game, and ofc it wouldn't work for online only games ( although if they put a private launcher you could theoraticly still play as long as the servers are up ) so no... you do have ownership of your games on steam, you have an unlimited time license for all your games ( although steam has the right to bann you and prevent you from using their service, as written in the terms of service ) and if that license was to expire ( valve going bankrupt for exemple ) you'll get a limited time, ( atleast a few weeks, companies don't close in a day ) to download your entire library. ( stockpile on harddrives ) A very important feature, and service EPIC doesn't provide for exemple, leaving that out there...

@billboein 3 месяца назад

epic dose not even let you move the file to a different hard drive on the same pc or even a dif folder on the same drive. and steam dose not care ware the file is or came from as long as your account was okayed to play it before going offline and you can be offline as long as you want to. steam even has a setting to copy games from a local network it is way faster then download from steam* if you are at a friends home with your pc and you want to play a game in your library and your friend has a copy

@rinaldo7618 3 месяца назад

AND I CAN STILLACCES DLC ON STEAM ON OFFLINE EPIC MEH

@jkmj2728 3 месяца назад

Is that true?! Wow. Can you maybe give me a source for that? A lot of users need to know this if it's true since nowadays buyers are getting blackpilled into believing that they don't own anything they buy in Steam. I'm going to need new drives.

@rinaldo7618 3 месяца назад

@@jkmj2728 base my experince play daylight on epic

@MrDrekki 3 месяца назад

@@jkmj2728 the words of Gabe himself : "Unless there was some situation I don't understand, we would presumably disable authentication before any event that would preclude the authentication servers from being available." He added, "We've tested disabling authentication and it works." Then confirmed by steam support and reddit page, and also in the terms of service : "In the unlikely event of the discontinuation of the Steam network, measures are in place to ensure that all users will have access to their Steam games."

@genfox1g913 3 месяца назад

Another lawsuit Valve is going to win without effort.

@Asweatyhog 3 месяца назад

I’m low key worried about losing my Steam Library. If Gabe is not at the helm or sells out we’re all F’d.

@leoSaunders 3 месяца назад

even if Steam will fail for whatever, it will redefine the digital landscape, because people and govs will wake up to digital ownership and licensing issues.

@AlienYogurtPot123 3 месяца назад

She's not for the GAMERS... she is Against the GAMERS probably a Blackrock plant.

@Thelisreal-sh3tz 3 месяца назад

Gonna start filling up my hard drives with the steam games I own

@Jivyachi 3 месяца назад

Should of sued for neglect of TF2 instead smh

@Dice-Z 3 месяца назад

fr fr deadass fam skibidi gyatt

@PyrrhoVonHyperborea 3 месяца назад

The only 2 things that are majorly wrong about steam: A) the 2h window for refunds is absurdly short (and actually in violation of consumer rights of many countries) B) abusive moderators shutting down valid criticism on steams platform to protext game-publishers from deserved scrutiny (and banning people for made up reasons); plus the generally lack of transparency with the system. ... anyone who buys a game on steam has [atleast] an implicit *right* to be given a voice on their forums, yet censorship runs rampant (dependy on the developer!), with no accountability, no way to fight back against the bad apples!

@VRGamingTherapy 3 месяца назад

Of course it's a Karen trying to sue an American company. lol.

@nerd20fromdiscord 3 месяца назад

"they are ripping off gamers" steam: continues to have the craziest sales ever allowing people to get their games at an incredibly good value compared to competing platforms............................

@cm386464 3 месяца назад

Thor IS a Giga had Clap

@nerovanbraus9119 3 месяца назад

a moder day activist not knowing/comprehending what they are protesting agaisnt? never seen that before

@TundraCrow 3 месяца назад

Sounds more like these other companies want to bump up the prices for providing a platform for game devs and customers. While Steam over here is doing what they can to provide fairness to all sides of the transaction. These companies finally have to actually compete in the free market and those companies don't seem to enjoy having to put in effort to be appealing to potential customers.

@Alorand 3 месяца назад

The One feature I want is Wishlist price targets. I want to automatically buy (or get a notification if it can't be done automatically) a game XYZ when it gets discounted to -XY% off. I think it would also be good for the publisher to see that 9,420 additional people will buy the game if the price drops to such and such level.

@rosevolkova2754 3 месяца назад

I mean, you already get notified both in profile and with an email when wishlist games are on sale, why would you want that notif for specific sales

@wojtylawinkorgawryluk 3 месяца назад

@@rosevolkova2754 maybe because a lot of games do sales every month (which is now clearly visible after sales policy change in EU) and these sales offer less discounts. but yeah, it is weird dude wants an autobuy feature.

@Alorand 3 месяца назад

@@rosevolkova2754 Because after a bunch of -10% and -15% sales I stop caring and don't check any more. I guess the inverse "Don't notify me unless it's at least -XY%" would work for me.

@tux7300 3 месяца назад

Clicked this pretty fast. Hope everyone here is doing well!

@renclave 3 месяца назад

You're gay. Love you.

@dONALDBLOOD 3 месяца назад

If there is a part in the contract between the devs and valve saying a dev can't sell their game at a lower price at other marketplaces, that may be a least anti-consumer.

@GravitasZero 3 месяца назад

To be fair, this is coming from the UK I’m European and they really haven’t been the same since they shot themselves in the foot with Brexit.

@benhughes2563 3 месяца назад

51% mate. 49% of us weren't so fucking stupid.

@ProtoKun7 3 месяца назад

As a Brit, I don't claim responsibility for Vicki Shotbolt.

@Enclave. 3 месяца назад

The lack of ability to back up your stuff like you can on GOG is the real anti-consumer stuff that should actually be going to court, not this nonsense that they're actually pushing.

@thousandyoung 3 месяца назад

Yeah, also DRM and Forum Censorship.

@pimmpslap 3 месяца назад

I'm100% certain she has been compromised by lobbyists because not a single gamer in this world has or would ask for this. Valve and Steam are the only distribution platform for video games that people universally like.

@pRaX85815 3 месяца назад

Why do I get the feeling that this woman was send by Uncle Tim.

@DantesGrill 3 месяца назад

I love how everyone who uses steam stands up for them. I don't think that's something that would've happened if people actually did feel used and abused by their business practices.

@calenholden7691 3 месяца назад

Vicki has never played a video game in her life otherwise she would've lost her mind with Ubisoft and EA a long time ago

@MangaGamified 3 месяца назад

She needs to vent her lawyer righteousness in north-korea or china in person where there's actual slayvery. Not in things no one sees as a problem.

@jamesgeranian6170 3 месяца назад

my life has no meaning

@Artixes 3 месяца назад

You do have one it’s to hit that like and subscribe button

@nov1st 3 месяца назад

same

@_Tiki_ 3 месяца назад

Same lol xoxo

@ash_redfighter 3 месяца назад

That ain't true

@JustaNobody-j8x 3 месяца назад

You’re are absolutely right… life has no inherent meaning. Embrace the void and find freedom in the absurdity.

@GrayMatter337 3 месяца назад

imagine being in a market swamped with store fronts that are just eating glass and screaming every time someone requests a cart, and then turning to the only one that functions well and is doing literally nothing to inhibit the competition beyond existing and trying to sue them so you can justify sending them a consult bill to fix an issue that doesnt exist

@tux7300 3 месяца назад

Little Big Planet narrator?

@o7juan 3 месяца назад

I was thinking the same thing lol

@mifster83 3 месяца назад

why are ppl simping for a large corporation?

@lycanwarrior2137 3 месяца назад

Because they are hypocrites. A lot of the things gamers complain about in the AAA space (digital-only, DRM, "play-to-earn", lootboxes, actual GAMBLING, etc.) was pioneered by Valve/Steam, oddly enough. Steam had to be SUED by the Australian government to allow refunds. This is also the same company that successfully appealed a ruling that would've allowed customers to resell digital games.

@1996aditya 3 месяца назад

Friendly reminder that the law firm backing this lawsuit, Milberg London LLP, is the same firm that is part of a lawsuit involving Sony and Playstation for similar reason

@BlueberryJamPie 3 месяца назад

In SA regions, third-party sellers are much cheaper than Steam because they have coupon stacking. Hogwarts Legacy for example got roughly a 78% off (with coupon) from a big SA third-party seller.

@Ecliptor. 3 месяца назад

noooooo you can't be fair with consumers, let us milk them noooooooooooooo

@janmischa5750 3 месяца назад

I kind of have to say tho I once lost internet connection for an entire month because of nearby construction digging and literally I could not put steam into offline mode I was required to be online first to go into functional offline mode so every single solo player game I wanned to start up did not run because steam had no internet connection even tho the games literally have no online features to them at all. I had to go and buy an actual Wifi bluetooth device to go online with my smartphones hotspot to put steam into offline mode and be able to play offline single player games and that is just absolutely absurd to me. I bought that game. All the files required are on my PC. It does not have online access. Why can I not run it without booting steam? This is like buying a car from Tesla but the engine only starts after scanning your face but then the database is stored on a satellite instead of the local machine so if it has no internet connection it can´t authenticate your face and you can´t drive...

@PoRRasturvaT 3 месяца назад

Gigachad Thor. Agreed on that. As for game access if steam shuts down, we only have Gaben's word that they'll do something if that happens.

@Validifyed 3 месяца назад

People that don't work in the industry, talking about weather the 30% cut is or isn't egregious, is never not frustrating.

@DreadNawght 3 месяца назад

Gaben: "I have learned to ignore such naysayers when quelling them was out of the question"

@shadowsstep6188 3 месяца назад

My main concern involves me being able to keep my steam games if the service ever shuts down. But depending on if it gets worse or not, I will try to find a way to preserve them myself. But only if it gets worse.

@johnnygray8563 3 месяца назад

Games should not require a platform to use.. All games should be usable in any launcher... its a game launcher...

@-PureRogue 3 месяца назад

That is actually very fair point, if anything publisher should be held accountable to provide access to people who bought game in any platform. So if they want to sue someone , or change something they should start with it