She is the best tennis Champion in the world forever she is a beautiful clever class german woman really the number one. She represents the best part of germany
Undoubtedly the absolute BEST, 'n class player...her style, humbleness, athleticism ability to fly around is just masterclass...STEFFI is untouchable, unbelievable and ofcourse the unparalleled Tennis-DIVA...❤❤ An inspiration...an idol....❤❤
My affinity towards Steffi was not just due to her ultra successful tennis that I, and we as fans, enjoyed but also her personality and core values. She was a fierce competitor on the tennis court but a shy humble person off the court. Her philanthropy with her foundation called Children for Tomorrow speaks volumes on her lasting legacy after tennis. And of course, how she values her family (husband and children) as her greatest success. I love how Rennae Stubbs describes Steffi at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="484">8:04</a> and <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="597">9:57</a>. Just validates why I feel she is the greatest ever not only because of her incredible tennis achievements and success but also her genuine humility. Thank you Steffi! 🥰
@@tomislavtomanovic3095 Sad that there are some, like yourself, who think that Steffi did not say anything as you described it. Steffi has publicly said that she hoped Monica would return, that she wished her well on her comeback and in one interview, she even said that Seles tragic event would not have occurred if she/Steffi never played tennis. We all have to live with what life gives and takes from us. Monica was only absent for about 2 years so she definitely found her strength and will to comeback but I think it’s her father’s death to cancer that truly derailed her career. She won the ‘96 AO which told the world she was back but when her father passed shortly after, she never won again. Monica still played which was great but not at the level she could have been at if her father was not lost at a relatively early age. If you think without bias, you could see the difference when comparing Petra Kivitova’s home assault vs. Monica, at least physically. I understand Petra’s was severe while Monica was not as physically damaging. Petra’s career arc totally changed while I think for Monica it was more emotional/mental having an assault in the public eye and losing your father to cancer. You still have to marvel on their fighting spirit to continue competing on the tour. In other words, don’t misdirect your vitriol towards Steffi, but towards the one who assaulted Monica. Understand context better, it will help!
@@ytangel7263 Monica Seles also talked in an interview about how Steffi Graf came to visit her in the hospital and they both cried and cried, it was very touching. Graf reached out to her in private directly after the attack - not the best approach from a "publicity" point of view, but certainly a better one for the two of them.
Simply the greatest female tennis player of all time and one of the finest all around athletes I've ever seen. I had the privilege of seeing her play live and her speed was otherworldly...
And did you see the butcher's attack on Monica Seles. Even today, Stefi is ashamed to say anything about what her fan did. Shame, she forcibly became the champion.
She is a beautiful woman, with a charming manner and a fantastic figure. As a player she was formidable and brilliant. Her smile is gorgeous. Cool accent too.
I’ve been fortunate to see Steffi play. Once at Virginia Slims Championships and US Open twice, including her last US Open in 1998. Miss her but happy for her life outside tennis.
Steffi graf is a classy tennis player. she is very modest and very talented. I like her. she used to be good friends with gabbie sabatini but I think their rivalry strained their friendship but I do know they are both different but also both talented.
Monica was never really able to come back. Certainly not to revisit the rivalry she had with Steffi. Mission accomplished for the bad guy. I think they're both happy now, and both out of competitive tennis a long time.
+Tim Cue But at 35, Steffi is still standing at 22 while Serena is at 23 with the possibility of getting more .. The fact that Graf retired much earlier than Serena is a testament to how much stronger and longevity Serena's body conditioning is over Graf's ... it means Graf's game is more punishing on her body so its not a perfect game ... she may do well but only over a shorter period of time than Serena's, and even now Serena is still capable of extending her Slam tally further ... (also pls note that Graf's tally would conceivably be lower than 22 due to the stabbing of Seles allowing her to win more ... who knows maybe Seles could have been the one to win 22 if the stabbing had not occured ...)
The Williams' would not have won many of their slams in their first few years at the top, had they not introduced Screaming and Howling to the sport. Their father instructed them to do so for The SOLE REASON to annoy and frustrate the competition. It worked. This is why The Williams' can not reasonable and virtually (technically yes) be called the greatest of all time.
I loved hearing about her friendship with Stubbs. I didn't know she was quite clumsy outside the tennis court. That is soooo funny to learn after all these years that I've been a fan. Hahaha!
Steffi was a great champion and a great athlete - but the reason I liked her the most was because of her genuinely nice personality off court. Someone who loves animals as much as she does, can't be bad at all! I remember hearing that after some tournaments the only thing she wanted to do was to get back home to see her dogs - I can fully understand that!
Yeah but she can be shite to people. Or when she was supposed to show humanity she chose not to. Like when she voted to take seles's rank away. Seles was number 1 and all but one player voted to get rid of her rank.
@@aaronmontgomery2055 you are sadly sadly sadly mistaken. From Wikipedia under the Header 1993 stabbing attack”The WTA suggested that Seles’ No. 1 ranking be preserved during her absence, but did not do so. According to Seles’ autobiography, all active tour players opposed the idea except Gabriela Sabatini, who abstained A vote was held at a tournament in Rome 1993, and 16 of the 17 top players who voted rejected the proposal - Graf did not participate in the tournament and was thus absent from voting. Of those who did vote only Sabatini did not reject the idea of freezing Seles’ ranking until her return. “
@@aaronmontgomery2055 if she was opposed to the whole thing why the hell would she even agree to allow Seles to be co- ranked no. 1 upon her return? You should do your research before you embarrass yourself with stupid lies.
@Max E yes it’s obvious this moron is a silly liar. Sad that Seles clowns have to stoop to such low levels to compensate for Seles’ inadequate achievements.
FUN FACT: Steffi only had to play 27 grand slam matches in 1988, with Evert granting her a walkover in the USO SF, falling short of a true 28-match CYGS. Serena was not so fortunate, but at least she won 28 consecutive GS Matches…TWICE in her career. And also held all 4 GS titles simultaneously in doubles. She shattered Graf’s record in January 2017 and became the record holder for most professional, 7-match GS singles titles in all of tennis history. Serena also beat Graf as a mere teenager at the biggest stage outside the Slams, Indian Wells final in 1999, foreshadowing her takedown of Graf’s record. Though they never played on grass, Graf simply would have had zero chance against Serena’s grass court serving, placement, power and speed à la Wimbledon 2010, 2012, 2015 and 16. Graf also had the tremendous benefit of getting to enjoy truly FAST grass courts and hard courts, unlike those of today that have all been slowed down. While a legend in her own right, Graf played in a terribly weak era with Evert and Navratilova in their twilight and hardly any other noteworthy or legendary players.
@@bryanmartin5901 In 2010, 2012, 2015, 2016 Serena beat Zvonareva, Radwanska, Muguruza, Kerber in her Wimbledon finals. You think those mugs were better than Navratilova in 1988/89, two of her best years ever?
@@carrerau7138 yeah I do. The game evolved with time. The only difference was the grass was actually way faster back then which would’ve made Serena serve even more impossible to return for Graf who had a good but unremarkable serve n return herself
You have to be impressed with Steffi winning the 99 FO. She came back from injuries and it was the beginning of the big bangers. One of the all time greats, but that might have been her biggest achievement. The Seles stabbing is a tragedy, those 2 would have had another 12-14 duels and would have propelled each other to even higher levels.
Seles was out for only 2 years and 3 months. From 1989 to 1999 Graf and Seles played only 15 matches, about 2 per year in the time both played on the tour. Both were done from 1997 on due to injuries. Extrapolating from this I don‘t think we missed more than 6 Graf-Seles matches because of the stabbing.
Steffi is so honest and real. I had no idea that she suffering with back pain as she did. She was a joy to watch, so many female players now play such a power game, a kind of slugfest, not nearly as enjoyable to watch imo. She was and is a great champion!
Except for the first 10 seconds of this video when she screamed a bratty YES after mishitting a ball into the net cord that luckily landed for a freak winner. She also never condemned her German fan for attacking and destroying the career of her number 1 rival.
Wow. What a beautiful person.on the Inside.. She really did mean that she really did want to see Monica back. And you can see she was sincere. ! Gee I hate Gunter he messed everything up I really really hate him. One things for sure she really was one of the greatest . Inside and out. ! I've always been a big fan. !
Steffi is the greatest female singles player of all time. Monica Seles was great and was a shame when she got stabbed, but Steffi had nothing to do with her stabbing. Steffi still had to win all her matches the slams were not just handed to her. The stabbing was not her fault and it was not her fault that the other players didn’t challenger much. People need to get over the fucking stabbing even Monica is over it!
Jose Cardenas I think everyone is "over" it. But when there's a serious discussion about who's the GOAT of women's tennis, some tennis fans can't help but remind die-hard Steffi Graf fans that Monica Seles wasn't beaten & overtaken from holding her number 1 ranking by Steffi Graf. Monica Seles was stabbed & taken out of the top of women's tennis by a nut & Steffi Graf fanatic. No matter what, Steffi Graf was a great athlete & tennis player. Yes, it wasn't Steffi Graf's fault. But Steffi didn't overtake the number 1 ranking back from Monica Seles. Monica was the best player & number 1 ranked in the world at the time of her assault. Seles had beaten Graf at that year's '93 Aussie Open in a great match & she was extremely confident & heavily favored to continue winning more Grand Slams in '93. Like the upcoming '93 French Open, which Seles had won in her last 3 consecutive French Open appearances. Anyway, I think most Monica Seles fans are just stating the obvious facts of what happened. And it would be a much different story IF Steffi Graf had beaten Monica Seles & overtaken the number 1 ranking back from her. I think everyone would be reasonable if that were the case but it wasn't. I just feel so bad for Monica Seles cause we'll never know what she could have achieved & accomplished in women's pro tennis. Monica Seles' story is beautiful. And also extremely f*cked up at the same time.
Many players rise to the top for one year, for three, for ten, and that's the story. Seles' stabbing had nothing to do with her not being able to win more than One slam afterwards: it was simply her time to descend. It happens to many. Her 1.5 centimeter cut is laughable in thinking it was more than a petty cut. Many athletes recover from even more serious surgery or treatment, even from more severe mental trauma, to rise to the top again--Michael Jordan and Steffi are some of those examples. More so, all top competitors realized Monica's weakness and went after it, namely her two-handing everything. Seles' weakness also was that she failed to change her two-handling everything. It took a toll on her upper body regardless if she or you fans don't speak of it. #SteffiIsTheGOATFemale Steffi is 6-4 vs Seles Prior to stabbing, and facts are based on science and evidence, not opinions. And since facts can not be challenged, those who say Monica would have stayed on top are foolish. They are human first and foremost, prone to prejudices and biases. Monica Seles' story is not as f'd up as her fans choose it to be. After 1993, it was simply her time to not rise and for others to rise, and for Steffi to stay at the top.
Markus E wow you couldn’t be more wrong. Steffi wouldn’t have even been number one if she hadn’t voted to have Monica’s ranking removed. Honestly she should be embarrassed for voting for that. Who would want the ranking like that? When it was her fucked up fan who ruined everything. Maybe one day you will experience what it is like to be attacked
Monica Seles was way better player than Steffi Graf, at 19 Monica had 9 grand slams and was 54-1 at grand slams, nobody will ever match that record...Monica came out of nowhere and start winning against Steffi at almost every tournament, you could see Steffi's frustration, but than somebody made a plan...the only way to stop Monica was to stub her with the knife. And somebody arranged just that, a German man, big fan of Steffi Graf took the knife and stabbed her during her match in Germany of course. After that Monica was finished for tennis even though she tried. But the most disturbing story that besides all the pretending Steffi never felt sorry for Monica in fact she showed her true face when few months after that stubbing she insisted that Monica has to stripped of world number one rankings. After that Steffi went to win many tournaments but true tennis fans knew that she would anything if her German fan didnt stubbed Monica Seles - real tennis star. In fact after that many tennis fans stopped watching ladies tennis because of Steffi Graf and German fan who stubbed Monica Seles in Germany. So the numbers in this case are lying, all tennis fans who know tennis well will tell you that Monica Seles was much better tennis player than Steffi Graf and Monica results before she was stubbed by Steffi's German fan, prove that.
FUN FACT: Steffi only had to play 27 grand slam matches in 1988, with Evert granting her a walkover in the USO SF, falling short of a true 28-match CYGS. Serena was not so fortunate, but at least she won 28 consecutive GS Matches…TWICE in her career. And also held all 4 GS titles simultaneously in doubles. She shattered Graf’s record in January 2017 and became the record holder for most professional, 7-match GS singles titles in all of tennis history. Serena also beat Graf as a mere teenager at the biggest stage outside the Slams, Indian Wells final in 1999, foreshadowing her takedown of Graf’s record. Though they never played on grass, Graf simply would have had zero chance against Serena’s grass court serving, placement, power and speed à la Wimbledon 2010, 2012, 2015 and 16. Graf also had the tremendous benefit of getting to enjoy truly FAST grass courts and hard courts, unlike those of today that have all been slowed down. While a legend in her own right, Graf played in a terribly weak era with Evert and Navratilova in their twilight and hardly any other noteworthy or legendary players.
Steffi Graf is the greates female tennis player of all time. Steffi retired at age 30 and Serena won the same amount of grand slams as Steffi at 35 years old. I do not care what people say Steffi was a class act not like ghetto Serena
Jose Cardenas Steffi Graf anilalated her compation her only rival was one Monica Seles from 1991-93 won 7 slams before finish no #1 in the world in 91,92 before a German lunatic took her out.how can you be the goat when you are not the best of your era.Steffi Graf went on to win 4 slams in Monica Absence,she returned a fat loser never regained form.Only to win one slam the rest of her career.Steffi is a class act, however the goat that's debatable.serena Williams spoiled brat, crybaby, bad temper etc I get your point I don't like her antics myself as a big fan of hers.
Steffi Graf beat Navratilova at Wimbledon who is considered the greatest female Wimbledon player. What are you talkin' about. Steffi Graf actually faced a lot of the same players throughout her career in Slams. You know what that means? It means Steffi had consistent competition. Serena faces a new player every time because women's Tennis has been awful since Henin, Mauresmo and Clijsters were gone. Henin at least beat Serena in 3 Slams, so that means competition and stops a player from adding to their Slam total. That's what Steffi had. True consistent competition. Serena had that earlier in her career which is why she wasn't that dominant back then. Only been dominant during her 30's. Winning Slams left and right 'cause players all suck now. If Serena retired same age as Steffi the Slam count wouldn't even be close. Steffi also got better winratio and more overall titles won. But apparently that doesn't matter.
I feel the story of the Graf vs Seles rivalry is always such a one sided conversation, always dominated by the Seles stabbing and the "what ifs". Yet a very important detail is always left out when discussing this rivalry. In 1990 @the German open a cheating scandal broke involving Graf's farther. Starting 1988, Graf at this point had just won 8 of the last 9 GS she played and was on a 66 match winning streak. At this very same German Open she lost to Seles for the 1st time and 2 weeks later at the FO. Then at Wimbledon a few weeks later she lost to Zina Garrison. A player she has not lost to in 4years till this point. Then went on to lose to Sabatini in the US Open. A player she was also on an 11 match winning streak. She went from losing only 3 matches in '88 and 2matches in '89, to losing 6 times in 1990, following the scandal breaking. Peter Graf in July 1990 said he blamed his scandal for Steffi's lack of form. Back to the Seles vs Graf rivalry. During their rivalry and Seles dominant years, 1990 - 1993, they split their matches 3-2. So Seles never dominated Steffi. Infact, after a slump in the ranking, Steffi was busy catching up and believed that she was playing herself back into form. She entered 2 tournaments Seles entered into in 1993 because she wanted to play Seles as much as possible before the FO of 1993. Not to take anything away from Monica, because she was a phenominal player but claiming that she would have continued to dominate, is ridiculous. We all know that tennis players will go through highs and lows during their careers. Same as Roger eventually figured out how to beat Rafa in 2017 and get the upperhand, the same could he said about Steffi. Gunther did not just rob Seles but he also robbed Steffi of challenging Monica at her best and shutdown this ridiculous "what if" conversation.
@@boomds5602 Obviously you have done no research at all and there you are proclaiming what it "seems". You are the very definition of ignorance talking.
Shaun S - I could NOT disagree more. It is not ridiculous to say Stephi would win many more slams. And YES, Graf would not win as many as she did. Face reality Shaun.
Just watched this...and resd all the comments...seles fans always in steffi's videos ...her fans are just like their idol hard to recover and will be the coulda, woulda seles mantra.
You are 100% correct. Steffi graf faced a competition light years better than the weak crap serena has played. Every once in a while, serena played against good competition. But nowhere near the constant great level faced by steffi. I've studied the game for 40 years. So I know the facts.
Monica Seles was way better player than Steffi Graf, at 19 Monica had 9 grand slams and was 54-1 at grand slams, nobody will ever match that record...Monica came out of nowhere and start winning against Steffi at almost every tournament, you could see Steffi's frustration, but than somebody made a plan...the only way to stop Monica was to stub her with the knife. And somebody arranged just that, a German man, big fan of Steffi Graf took the knife and stabbed her during her match in Germany of course. After that Monica was finished for tennis even though she tried. But the most disturbing story that besides all the pretending Steffi never felt sorry for Monica in fact she showed her true face when few months after that stubbing she insisted that Monica has to stripped of world number one rankings. After that Steffi went to win many tournaments but true tennis fans knew that she would anything if her German fan didnt stubbed Monica Seles - real tennis star. In fact after that many tennis fans stopped watching ladies tennis because of Steffi Graf and German fan who stubbed Monica Seles in Germany. So the numbers in this case are lying, all tennis fans who know tennis well will tell you that Monica Seles was much better tennis player than Steffi Graf and Monica results before she was stubbed by Steffi's German fan, prove that.
Graf was a very good player. Certainly not the GOAT! Maybe you haven't heard of Martina, Chris, Margaret Court, Serena. And if Monica was not stabbed by Graf's fellow countryman, she could have easily been considered the GOAT. And if Monica would have been able to continue to play, Graf wins only half of the slams she won.
@@peterflorino9016ya ok lol.. in the 1980's I never would have thought anybody could have topped Navratilova..but then Steffi arrived ..Steffi easily for me is the greatest ever, its not even close..those are the only 2 worth debating if you are going to have one..Serena was great also but not like those 2..the 3 greatest ever : 1. Graf 2. Navratilova 3. Serena
You must be German. You cannot be the goat in tennis if you don't have a great backhand. I don't believe she ever won a point using her weak, slice, backhand. Monica was superior to her and was dominating Graf when her countrymen stabbed her. He later admitted that's why he did it, as he was tired of Monica beating Graf. As to who is the real goat? I guess Martina is, followed by Monica, Chris. Certainly not Graf.
You need to understand...before the stabbing incident... steffi already CEMENTED of being GREAT...having won the GOLDENSLAM "88" (Australian Open, French Open, Wimbledon, U.S. Open & Olympic Gold in 1988)... I "DOUBT" her record will ever be broken... I DON'T THINK SO... :-)
The golden slam is only 4 slams plus 1 olympics gold ... it would not be a greater achievement than having an overall most slams record. Imagine a player wins 4 slams in a calendar year vs one who wins 8 slams non-consecutively, anyone would still rank the 8slam winner the greater player ...
+GeorgeHenryThomas But Serena did win Olympics Gold on top of at least 4 slams in a row, its just that Graf did it in 1 year but thats just a matter of timing, not a big difference ... statistically its still the same thing ...
+GeorgeHenryThomas Don't be dumb, put simply Serena 23 slams 1 olympic gold > Graf 22 slams, 1 olympic gold. And Graf got help from a stabber to get rid of the no.1 at that time ...
+GeorgeHenryThomas But we can also argue that Serena's generation is so competitive which makes it hard for any player to win multiple slams which makes Serena's 23 more impressive ... You see, your kind of "no all time greats" argument is a double edged sword, it cuts both ways ... If you really see how today's women play, they really do hit a lot harder than the period when Steffi was dominating .. Truth is undeniable that Seles was stabbed during a time when she was in the middle of a very dominant run (winning 7 of 9 slams) .. thats an undeniable fact.
gaya steffigraf..dilapangan sangat indah sekali...sehinga mata melihatnya tidak berkedip... sekarng zaman now...sharapova yg mirip gaya dalam bermain tennis..
We ll never know what would have happened it was gonna be the Navratilova- Evert of the 90's... their finals were unbelievable in tennis level... Such a shame we'll never know ...
@Max E “minor stab”? I don t think that getting stabbed at your work place is minor! I love Steffi but we have to recognised that Monica’s stabbing changed the game. Unfortunately Steffi did not have competition anymore. We ll never know. It s just tennis no need to stab someone over it.
@@flame-sky7148 Monica Seles was way better player than Steffi Graf, at 19 Monica had 9 grand slams and was 54-1 at grand slams, nobody will ever match that record...Monica came out of nowhere and start winning against Steffi at almost every tournament, you could see Steffi's frustration, but than somebody made a plan...the only way to stop Monica was to stub her with the knife. And somebody arranged just that, a German man, big fan of Steffi Graf took the knife and stabbed her during her match in Germany of course. After that Monica was finished for tennis even though she tried. But the most disturbing story that besides all the pretending Steffi never felt sorry for Monica in fact she showed her true face when few months after that stubbing she insisted that Monica has to stripped of world number one rankings. After that Steffi went to win many tournaments but true tennis fans knew that she would anything if her German fan didnt stubbed Monica Seles - real tennis star. In fact after that many tennis fans stopped watching ladies tennis because of Steffi Graf and German fan who stubbed Monica Seles in Germany. So the numbers in this case are lying, all tennis fans who know tennis well will tell you that Monica Seles was much better tennis player than Steffi Graf and Monica results before she was stubbed by Steffi's German fan, prove that.
I always knew Steffi Graf was a nice person this interview just proves it her friend tells it best she is shy and very private and reserved and there is nothing wrong with that all the hype came from other players and commentators yet Steffi get,s slammed for it they praise her and make her sound super human and that is there fault not hers ! ..........Then you had the tragic stabbing of Monica Seles and yes it was horrible but once again not Steffi,s fault .........Oh she would not have won so many grand slams ok maybe not but she still would have won enough to make her one of the greatest female tennis players of all time ..........Look at the back to back victories she had before Monica was even on the scene . You now have those who compare her to Serena Williams hahahahaha it,s just insane and really stupid they are both good and from different eras . I don,t care what anyone says Steffi will always be one of the best in my mind an amazing athlete such passion and so graceful always carried her self with class and her work ethic always practicing keeping her amazing body in shape the discipline she had that many others lacked but those never get mentioned no it,s always ( she played lousy players compared to today ) ( Monica was not there or she would not have the title ) Always negative with no respect for what she accomplished even while going thru hard times of her own . Like her father in prison or her injuries the fact that she unlike others could bounce back and come back as strong as ever but NO ! no one wants to say that . Well she has all those grand slams she is one of the best athletes from her era and she is now happily married to another tennis legend Andre Agassi and that no one can take from her . She earned all her wins and that my friends is that she is and always will be what a true champion should be . Just this Graf fans opinion ;-) ..........I wish you all a blessed life
nothing is more a certainty than the fact that Monica Seles, had she not been stabbed would have won titles, slams than any other woman. Steffi was also great, but her lack of a powerful backhand limited her game. Monica is unquestionably the best that ever played.
Good grief, you die-hard Seles fans will never let it go, and spend too much time wishing for what MIGHT have been....that is, when you're not spinning ridiculous conspiracy theories about the stabbing. It was a terrible page in tennis history, but no amount of wild speculation and bitter sentiment can change the past. And believe me, very few people share your opinion that Seles is "unquestionably the best that ever played". Very, very few.
Steffi is no more responsible for Monica’s decline than Barty or Serena is responsible for Osaka’s decline. Tennis players have to maintain mental fortitude and if you can’t then you won’t continue to win. How many times was Serena booed and suffered near life threatening blood clots; she still was able to recover mentally and physically and win major tournaments. Mental toughness is equal to physical athleticism and tennis IQ.
Because you can compare getting assaulted and stabbed, in a place you should feel safe in, to something that happens as an injury without any sort of trauma attached to it. If someone is booing you, turn your head the other way or cover your ears and wait till it passes. Monica was in actual physical threat and could've easily had the same fear many matches after her recovery. Who can say she didn't get some sort of PTSD from it. No matter how much you try you can't compare the two things. That being said Steffi shouldn't be blamed for it, but I understand her feeling some sort of second hand guilt. But don't tell someone to just get over getting stabbed like it's nothing.
I mailed her a "Congrats!" letter. She mailed me a "Danke Shun" in return. I speak some Spanish -- almost zero German. I've been to Cologne, Germany & I admire Franz Klammer - Olympic Downhill Ski Champ! I played Menlo College, CA Men's Tennis - 1978. I played in 3 tennis camps in CA. My Dad played tennis also; we were members of the Rafael Racquet Club, CA in the late 1960s/early 1970s. Injuries mean you play too much. "Love" anyway from Robert Cavalier -- a.k.a. Cav. P.S. Lawrenceville School, NJ Class of 1976 with thanks to Todd Axt & Jay Lapidus!
Thanks to my new friend! I now realize that Franz Klammer is from Austria. We had several wonderful Ski Instructors at Sugar Bowl, CA from Austria: Linda, Tony, & Wolfe. Nice folks. Lots of fun in 1967-1971! * Robert Cavalier *
If Monica Seles hadn't been stabbed, she would have gone on to become the greatest female tennis player of all time. Who says this?..... Martina Navratilova, Chris Evert, Billie Jean King etc. Seles had Graf's measure and would have go on to win loads of Grand Slams which would have greatly reduced Graf's tally!. Even if Seles hadn't been stabbed, their rivalry would be nowhere near the greatest rivalry in sport never mind tennis......Martina Navratilova versus Chrissie Evert!!!. They brought women's tennis to a whole new level and their matches always had you on the edge of your seat!. Towards the end of her career, Martina and Steffi became good friends and Steffi has stated a few times over the years that if you take everything into consideration, singles, doubles and mixed doubles then Martina is the greatest female tennis player of all time and one of the best tennis players EVER. I absolutely and totally agree with Steffi that Martina is without question the GOAT and if anyone should know it is Steffi!!!.
Clearly Seles would not have lasted. She never came back after the stabbing. Not mentally strong enough. To presume she would have been mentally strong enough to go on the be the greatest is baseless.
@Max E by extensively viewing recorded matches between seles and the other greats, especially prior to the stabbing, i think it is not too difficult to infer that seles is the all time very best female tennis player to date -by far.
@Max E i am not familiar with all games played by each player and thus i am disqualified from even opining in that regard. however, i do maintain that it is clear, through viewing numerous games involving each of the top players, that seles was in a distinct class of her own (most especially prior to the stabbing).
@Max E your question is moot, void, incomprehensible and therefore invalid in relation to my previous post. i'm pretty sure that you are aware of that.
@Max E @Max E by the way, navratilova herself views seles as the better player of the two of them -at least with regards to the pre-stabbed seles.....but i'm sure you are aware of that.
Reason people will NEVER get past Monica being stabbed and always talk about it is because the German fan stabbed her because he was tired of Monica beating his idol. People realize that Monica would have won another 8-10 slams in her career if not for the knifing. That’s 8-10 less slams for Graf. So Graf’s slam records should have an asterisk before them. She didn’t deserve to win as many as she did. Monica was on a huge unstoppable winning streak at that time. Too bad for women’s tennis. Monica was the best.
Illya Kuryakin . What drugs are you taking? Monica, oh sorry, the grunter, being absent made your German girl loose -3-4 slams?? I must have read that wrong. Look the stabber later told the police he was sick and tired of Monica beating his countrywoman. So he knifed her. Simple as that. Graf had no backhand. Monica would have kept being the shit out of Graf. Face it. Besides Graf has 2 obvious faults. She isn’t pretty, and she married a sissy boy. End of story. Go back to Germany.
Illya Kuryakin - as they say I’ll smoke whatever it is that you’re smoking. I’ve followed tennis for over 50 years and never heard anyone think Graf was pretty. I’m sure you’ve heard many comments saying she looks like a man. Agassi is what we call a pooch. Not well liked and certainly not envied by most people, none that I know personally. Anyways enough talk. If you want to ignore facts and believe that Graf did not benefit by Monica not being able to play, be my guest. But I’m done here, don’t respond I no longer want to discuss this.
Peter Florino Hmm... if this is how slams (or any other tournaments) were won- based on past previous 2 years results- there would be no need to play to matches. That guy stabbing her was tragic, but that doesn’t mean you can count up a specific range of slams she would’ve won. She did come back and she came back at the top of her game. In fact, her serve was significantly better. But wasn’t very fit and she started getting injured. That’s part of the game.
I hope he still sees her beauty. I just get this feeling not. I was in a great relationship, was.. Later taken for granted to say the least. But around people he would act differently.
And did you see the butcher's attack on Monica Seles. Even today, Stefi is ashamed to say anything about what her fan did. Shame, she forcibly became the champion.
u guys always saying serena is a man but steffi also looks like a man in africa there are weman that looks like men but they are woman stop been racist, my best player in tennis is hingis
Cuando uno lee comentarios obviando que el ataque a Seles fue en Alemania y fue cometido por un fan de Steffi, es cuando te das cuenta por qué sucedió algo así. Justifican un intento de homicidio sin culpas, y yo me pregunto, si un serbio hubiera atacado a Steffi y Mónica hubiera conseguido 22 Grand slams, qué dirían?
No attempted murder. Except you have new evidence? What would I say if a Serb had attacked Steffi in Serbia? I would praise Steffi for playing again within 8 weeks after that small stab would had healed. And I would whine a bit about Seles having been lucky AGAIN after the Graf Blackmail Scandal gifted her about 5 slam titles more than she deserved already.
@@planettennis2822 I don't think you followed the Parche trial. He never would have got just a suspended prison sentence (with a 6-month pre-trail detention) if he had been convicted of attempted murder.
@@carrerau7138 porque sucedió en Alemania y Graf salió beneficiada, pequeño detalle 😉. En cualquier país del mundo hubiera cumplido prisión perpetua. No hay que ser demasiado inteligente para darse cuenta.
@@planettennis2822 The verdict would have been roughly the same in all major Western European countries according to most law experts. In Germany the intent to kill must be proven "beyond a reasonable doubt". Weird concept for many, I know.
then why did she need tw years to recover from a wound healed in just one month ? And why didn't she become number one again (without a privileged co-number one ranking during more than one year) when she came back, at just 21 ?
Monica Seles would have been the best player and everybody knows that... but thats life, it did sadly happen! I love Steffi Graf very much, but I'm just being honest Seles was ready to win at least 12 more grand slam but her ''overweight'' body from her eating disorder destroyed her comeback big time and the rivalry wasnt the same as before with Steffi... They are and will always be both my favorite players... They both have so much class... compare to the new young women's generation in tennis (rude, desruptive, intimidation, and NO RIVALRY anymore like Navratilova-Evert-Sabatini-Graf-Seles... Look at the fantastic four in men's tennis like Federer, Djokovic, Murray, Nadal, thats why it gets more viewers and more attention then any womens game... This sport needs a real rivalry! Or else its so boring and nothing exciting...
Yea, I think about it all the time. The thing we can look at is the Everet, Martina rivalry to give us some indications to what Seles/Graf would have been. Seles was 3-1 in grand slam finals against Graff before the stabbing. I mean Seles won 8 grand slams before the age of 20. I think also when Borg quit, it hurt the game because it was going to be a great rivalry with McEnroe.
we'll never know, steffi could win the next match, there's always up and down in life you cant say steffi would never win against seles ever though, I admire both of them but I wont say one of them will never beat the other
