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@The Amazingly Randy but you would need a fucking ocean, in other words, you would have to flood the whole fucking area to create enough pressure to make something that heavy float.
@@RayWilliamJohansen I believe you have missed the point sir, but that's ok. Let's not forget about the Nile being much, much closer to the pyramids in ancient times.
@@Grrtt4570 Fair enough but a river is flowing and I am still unconvinced as to how feasible this would have been, give a number of things, working with heavy objects, in water, all of that seems nice but most likely not practical.
jeenyus720 No they'd think "No this is stupid. 9,600,000 liters of water is needed for the base alone, an 2,000 more liters every hour from evaporation. 10 years to construct a canal for just 6% of the stones? (94% of the stones were from the Gaza Plateau itself). The water would stagnate and become a giant puddle of disease ridden mosquito infected filth. And there's no way to make pipe door and compartments that are both *air* tight and easy enough to open, and there's no way to fix this if just one part of the pipe springs a leak/blockage/stuck doors."
ParallelPain: on the other hand it would be much easier, than to drag all those stones from ships to the construction site. Not to forget that it's more than 40 degree in egypt for quite some months. Slaves would probably be able to pull of that tough work for a week, than get ill or die of exhaustion. The egypts had the best architects in the world, pretty sure they've figured out a smart way to filter the water somehow like the romans were doing with their aqueducts.
Der Dudelino Building a path for water is A LOT easier than making an air tight compartment door that can be opened easily. Which we have no evidence of anyone figuring out how to do before modern materials and engineering because it's downright impossible. And dragging the blocks using pulley/lever/rollers plus wetting the sand is far simpler than any of this. And requires less labor than digging a canal and then constructing that stone pipping. And we actually have pictorial evidence for it.
While this seems perhaps plausible at a first glance, just consider this. Floating a block up the shaft comes with a price: an equal amount of water (by weight) travels down the shaft. Consequently, the weight of water that would need to be carried up to the top of the "water shaft" to replace the water travelling down+ leakage etc. would exceed the weight of the blocks being lifted. So, the manual work would actually increase; it is not easier to carry 2 tons of water than it is to carry 2 tons of rock up the pyramid. Not counting the need to carry floatation down the pyramid, work to build and maintain all the complicated shafts.. And working in murky, mosquito-infested water all day till your hands dissolve is not such a great working environment as this video would like it to be. Chiselling stone under water? Hmm.
@@alde1611 You must be the type of person that when asked "what is heavier, a ton of steal or a ton of feathers?" answers confidently "a ton of steal".
@@vivazapata123 From scientific work load point of view they are equal, they take the same energy to move. That doesn't mean its easier. Everything is easy on paper. I tell you to move a 2000 pound block of steel 100 feet or 100x20 pounds of steel the same distance just using your hands and see which one gets done first.
Imagine cutting block in river water not to mention all the excess material coming off the blocks. Does someone swim down there and remove all the scrap ?
Agree, the water around the pyramid would not be flowing and would quickly become stagnant especially with all of those bodies inside, carrying many pathogens, along with fertile breeding for billions upon billions of disease carrying mosquitos. The workforce would be decimated in a fortnight. Now if the pyramid wasn't built on a plateau and part of a river had been diverted into a canal then it would seem plausible.
I love reading comments. It's hilarious...humans today can't fathom building the pyramids by hand. So, it's impossible for humans who lived thousands of years ago had the brain power to engineer them. Today we look at ourselves as geniuses because we've created the "smart phone". However, take a man's smart phone away and he forgets how to wipe his own ass. Our technology is just an invented brain.
I see some Truth in his words. I mean you can have computers do Math for you, To figure stuff out or to give you information from someone who has all ready figured something else out.
Sethdarkus Yes, but the outcome of that is you find out the answer. Back then either you were rich enough to be educated and know the solution, or you just didn't worry about it.
@@zach458 _this is taught to 5th graders. not complicated_ You keep propagating this assertion...can you provide proof that 5th grade teachers teach water elevator theory to 5th graders?
@@gorillazilla4534 this is over engineered???? You should look at the shit they do now. This is simple. Saying this isn’t possible is anti science and anti history
Using this theory, I feel like building the pyramid was the easy part. Building a vertical air tight water tunnel is much easier said than done. Currently the deepest pool in the world is roughly 200ft. Now try doing that above ground 500ft, and make some doorways to hold in the water pressure. 😂
Easy one! just make the distance of each doorways not to far (50ft or so), so each doorways can still hold the water pressure of each section. and use pulley to open and close the doorways. Not need to be 100% air tight just water tight, leak a little here and there are acceptable. The water which is reduced due to leak can be refilled with bucket, rope, pulley, and brute force (they have thousands of slave there..) just my speculation, not an expert...
LOL Only the amount of water in the rising pipe would be enough to make it explode. Tons and tons of water. The first infiltration will dig the way for the tube to collapse.
I have always said don't use a smart guy to design stuff, use the lazy guy as he will get it done the easiest way. This looks to be the smart guys idea.
Not from their perspective if it was something they did for other things as well. No matter how they did it, they left no instructions for any of the structures to include the pyramids. The Egyptians were so attached to the Nile that they felt sorry for other civilizations that had to wait for the 'Nile in the Sky' to grow crops. Whatever the method, it was something mundane and didn't seem worth noting for future generations. Look at the Mult-Station Modem chip in the cell phones used around the world today, just 100 years ago, it would have been the most amazing thing ever heard of and would have taken a massive infrastructure to make that is now, although specialized to be sure, normal to manufacture. The pyramids are so old, that even the Roman Republic would have been looking at them the way we look at the Roman Republic today. To move massive stones, the Romans would use gigantic wheels with the stones themselves being the axle that is ingeniously simple when you think about it as these are stones that are 100s of tons. However the Egyptians built their structures, like many other things, they just didn't seem to think it was that important to document in any fashion.
@@jammcguire1276 I can confirm that it wasn’t built using a water shaft elevator, anyone saying “yeah plausible” in the comment section are thick as dog s*it there’s no nice way to put it
So I know this is an old upload but out of curiosity I looked up the book on Amazon Hardcover prices range from $438 - $777 used !! For those prices those books better be signed by the Pharaohs
Offer and demand, dude. I know it's absurd but this book is really expensive because it is not printed anymore, it's almost imposible to buy it, but I don't care about it either.
It's so easy to build an ancient water tight elevator system 500 feet above ground, but listen to him bend over backwards when describing the difficulty of dirt ramps.
@@mcfcguvnors Read the book ( NO MONEY ) ” THE SECRETS OF BUILDING THE GREAT PYRAMID OF EGYPT ” , on the website www.thegreatpyramidofegypt.com On a 26.5° inclined "main inner mobile ramp" located in the "central channel" of the Great Gallery, about 150 workers with the help of a system of traction levers of order 2 with a height of 5 m in which the active force arm "F1 of workers" is b1 = 5 m . The arm of the resistant force "F2 = Gt ( tangential component of the weight of the stone block) + Ff (friction force given by the weight of the stone block on the sled") is b2 = 1 m, can pull closer and closer on the "main inner mobile ramp" inclined at 26.5° [~ 1,24 m. (distance traveled by b2) X 70 elevations = 87 m. (40 m. length of ascending passage + 47 m. length the "central channel" of the Great Gallery)] a stone block of 60 tons in an "elementary" simple and easy way up to a height of 43 m. for the construction of the King's Chamber. In this case on the " main inner mobile ramp " the lever of order 2 serves to multiply by 5 times the workers traction active force of F1. You can find drawings and explanations on page 32 ~ 43 on the website www.thegreatpyramidofegypt.com in English or Romanian (no money , 1 - MENU / Menu ; 2 - ENGLISH / Romana ; 3 - FRAGMENTS OF THE BOOK / Fragmente din carte ; 4 - Comments / Comentarii ; ). Leave a comment if you can! Have a nice day. Thanks for watching! Hănțulie Ionel
READ THE BOOK ; READ THE BOOK ; READ THE BOOK, THE SECRETS OF BUILDING THE GREAT PYRAMID OF EGYPT, which has completely new theories about this subject ( WITHOUT MONEY) on the website www.thegreatpyramidofegypt.com , accessing „Read fragments” ; ( 1 - MENU / Menu ; 2 - ENGLISH / Română ; 3 - FRAGMENTS OF THE BOOK / Fragmente din carte ; 4 - Comments / Comentarii ; NO MONEY ) I'm open to hearing new ideas and new arguments. Pragmatic people always cling to the popular proverb, burning those on the "Galileans" who claim that the world isn't flat ,or that the universe revolves around it ; so I prefer to give everyone a chance to present something new; YOU NEVER KNOW ?, (what if one of the 78 novelties proposed in the book on page 57 , is finally accepted ? ). Have a nice day. Thanks for watching! Hănțulie Ionel.
Jackmono1 Is is REALLY that far fetched? I think the idea of Alien visitations in the past makes almost more sense than aliens visiting in the modern human era. I think they would rather be intervening when human society is still rather young and in an age where alien visitations would be regarded as "gods" visiting Earth, rather than today, when we have knowledge of potential other worlds and the idea of extraterrestrial civilizations, which combined with our much larger, more communicationaly savvy populace (internet/phones) could cause mass panic.
***** it is- because that tv show leaves out tons of important details. How did they cut stone? they used a flat copper 'saw' and sprinkled sand on top of the block and grinded it away with the saw+sand. This has been demonstrated. If you look up Houdins hypothesis of how the pyramids were built its not that out of the way for what the egyptians were already doing. Internal Ramp, the grand gallery was a counterweight system. Theres evidence inside the grand gallery for that(friction marks and worn away stone at stress points) Personally, while alien visitation is of course always possible, I think its insulting to our ancestors to think that they couldnt POSSIBLY have constructed these monuments without outside help. And figuring out the simple methods that were used give you a new appreciation of how brilliant some of them were.
Bro imagine dozens of documentaries all imagining how Egyptians built the Pyramids and they still can't get a 100% explanation and still theorizing LMAO. Aye, Egyptians are master constructors, to this day.
We know exactly , how they built the piramids, only we cant accept it. We cant comprehend, what insane power do you can have, if you are the main priest and the earthborn son of the sun, who pray every morning to the sun to rise up. Now you say your whole country to come up and work for you, for 20-25 years. The population was 1-1.5 million in that time, and "only" needed 15-20 thousands, max 40thousand workers. Which looks insane, by modern standards and modern mindset. (also, these were capable masons, not slaves) Also, this water elewator with 1.5 cubic meter airtight waterskins, and reed mattes and reed ropes, that can withold 1.5 tonnes of force is bullshit.
Finally a more logical explanation of how the pyramids were built... And blocks were carved with precision.... It's something I've often thought about for years and seemed the most plausible.....
It is not logical at all. The pressure on the bottom gate would be enormous. What material would be used to make it and how would the gate be held in place?
Rectangular water shafts - horrible idea from an engineering perspective. They would not be able to sustain the pressure, nevermind having a number of water-tight gates with perfect seals. The height would produce a strong vacuum near the top of the tube. Managing pressure distribution would be impossible. Even the demo plexiglass tubes don't deal with actual heights and volumes of water involved. It's easy to calculate what kind of stress water would produce at 42 floors if taken up a pipe. Additionally, there would be no way to quickly extract the ropes from under the stones perfectly every time, while having the stones fit with laser precision. There'd be ropes stuck between and under stones everywhere, yet we find nothing between the stones. Water buoyancy, is a good theory, however for transporting stones to the pyramid base. It would explain why the structure had to be lowered by 8m, as if to contain something. I think this system works to the lowest level, but then stones are taken up differently. Where are the id markings? The stones aren't random but strategically placed. What about granite portions? Were those floated too? Even in the pictures provided in the video, the workers are shown near the tops of the stones, implying they could've delivered them and worked on them while the stones were still submerged. That's a silly assumption, considering where the stone would be relative to the water surface if the floats were attached. Each stone would be more than 1m below the surface. Good luck working a block that deep. And if the rope snaps, how do you reattach it? How do you troubleshoot, when everything's submerged? It makes the technique more sophisticated than the problem it's trying to solve.
its perfect idea to reduce cranes cost, a lot of opening shafts available in the towers they can use, just fill it by water and close from the top and use gates
Certainly doesn't explain the stones in the king chamber or in the channel leading up, but definitely water shafts and canals a better theory than the leading egyptologist ramp dragging theory smh
On a 13 acre land base,to keep true with 8 sides,would of utilized a large central tower of block ,not only to keep true center up,but as a hoist to lift each block.To prove is a central core, I thought when kid climbed to top,he could of got GPS mark but then to check inside signal wont go through the block to prove.Once they got up halfway,easy enough to stand another long tall block for rest of lift crane.With a rope and mathematical measurements ,could math out to still keep true by measuring in a circle around existing structure from center.(rope length from central tower\Axis).Easy enough manner to constantly assure of true because first run was around extruded mound they had "X-ed" out from jump street already in the block bed.
Well the remains of non-human elongated scull people are still in existence. And the rocks to build the pyramids were cut using machine tools, because the deep power-saw marks are still in evidence.
1. There are not a lot of bronzes unearthed in Egypt. The latest archeology proves that they were built by construction workers, not slaves. Slaves can eat high-quality beef and can be buried near the pyramids. 2. There is no history of bronze wares in Europe, only a very small amount of bronze is fished out of the water or bought from the antique market, so it is impossible to measure carbon 14 (compared with Sanxingdui in China to see what bronze wares can be measured by carbon 14) 3. There is no such thing in Europe Astronomical calendar (there are many observatory sites in China, there are no such sites in Europe, and it takes hundreds or thousands of years of continuous observation, calculation, and accumulation to have a calendar) 4. There is no unified weights and measures in Europe, and China has unified weights and measures for more than 2,000 years. Many instruments related to measurement have been unearthed in China. There is no unified weights and measures in Europe, so where does advanced arithmetic come from? History cannot be recorded until there has been no change for thousands of years. For the above points, can anyone overthrow it? If it cannot be overthrown, then ancient Babylon (someone obtained a cuneiform dictionary and translated clay tablets?), ancient Egypt, and ancient Greece are all false. Ancient Rome was a very small place not a great empire, let alone a civilization. If you look at the technology of the Song Dynasty in China and the Sanxingdui site, you will know the reason. Note that the first steam engine-driven car was also in China, but it is a pity that the Ming Dynasty, the creator of civilization, was stolen by barbarian Manchus and European missionaries, and rewritten the real history. 6. If Babylonian civilization is as great as described in textbooks, why is writing still written on clay tablets? Why not use noble sheepskin? 7. There is no such a grammatical dictionary for cuneiform, which can allow ordinary people to translate these clay tablets into modern characters. If there is no such dictionary, then they can make fakes at will. The ancient nautical chart of ancient Egypt is marked as Babylon, which is the map of China 600 years ago(it was codified by European missionaries to 1601): www.loc.gov/item/2010585650/ This is a map of Europe:commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Geographia_by_Ptolemy,_Aphricae_Tabula_III,_1540_Basel_edition_-_Maps_of_Africa_-_Robert_C._Williams_Paper_Museum_-_DSC00625.JPG
I think the real conspiracy theory is that with our modern technology we somehow can’t figure out how they built the pyramids. When you factor in how half of modern-day Egypt’s economy is dependent on tourism, it creates an incentive to preserve the mystique of ancient Egypt. The biggest reason I visited Egypt with my family was because of this idea of adventure or discovery beyond what I fully understand. Everyone successful tied to the tourism industry was extremely quick witted and knew what tourists were drawn to get them to spend their money. The reality is modern-day Egypt is a struggling nation that is trying to milk the mysteries of the past empires to get rich tourists to boost their current economy. Which is why, even if we solve these “mysteries”, there is no way the (somewhat shady/ self-serving) Egyptian government would ever reveal these truths to protect their tourism industry. I don’t think this is a bad thing. I actually loved the experience of visiting Egypt and feeling like a kid again, where there is so much you don’t know.
This is exactly how they have done it , the difference is that they didn't need to quarry the stones and transfer them in place , they did something far more efficient and intelligent , they used molds and the land provided all the ingredients needed to mix with water and create artificial stones with something similar to what we call concrete .
The causeway was part of the setup for the pharaoh resuscitation so that he could use his boat back into the Nile. The water lift is unimaginable for the culture level of this ancient civilisation, notwithstanding the numerous pictorial and bass-relief evidence left by the Egyptians dragging the blocks with men and ox and not floating them. But I do like the idea.
"The water lift is unimaginable for the culture level of this ancient civilisation" Although I agree with your point that there is no pictorial evidence to suggest this method being utilized, I disagree that the Egyptians were incapable of constructing such a lift. They had full knowledge of building water-tight boats which would have just as easily been applied to stonework. And they were capable of building a structure as massive as the Great Pyramid with 20+ ton blocks of stone in such a way that a credit card (and in some places, a sheet of paper) cannot be inserted into the gaps. So this engineering feat was not out of their range of building. Actually, the water building method would explain the tightness of the stones a lot better than if you expect me to believe they were manually moved that close together. It is a very interesting concept, to say the least...
You just made that up! There are no pictures of them building pyramids that’s the problem we’re left with. Secondly they were evidently highly skilled builders and experts with irrigation.
Gates can be on the side ways, easy to be pulled by animals. It is possible to make it airtight by taking care of the leakage, where they are pulling it. small leakages will not be a big problem.
Thank you for this detailed tutorial. You could've also specified more about the materials, I'm concerned that my back yard pyramid will colapse, but very good totarial
2 300 000blocks of stone 10hours/day x 365days x 20years = 73 000hours 2 300 000blocks / 73 000hours = 31,5blocks/hour (including finding them, cutting them and transporting them) Why don't they just admit they have no damn clue...?
they didn't prepare the blocks one by one! they were preparing a number of blocks togother in the same time ! i think you don't like these theorys so you should ask: how did they (who was responseble of building these pyramids) know that the blocks are not hollow?! how did they know that there is no air inside these blocks?!!
man, this theory makes sense to me. He is right, there is no evidence of a ramp being used. A water system like this could be broken down and you wouldn't need that large work force to create a ramp and use rollers to drag the stones up the pyramid. you could focus your workers on the quarry shaping the stones. Very interesting theory, im impressed.
@@sunpallinkarvat Ramp systems would all take far more time to construct and move blocks, whereas this system simplifies the movement completely. It actually makes a lot more sense than any of the other theories I have seen. Additionally, it will guarantee that the pyramid stays level for every single level being added on. My only issue is building the covered causeways so that they are airtight, or very near airtight, to minimize leakage and allow the buoyancy movement to happen.
@@DrAGGill Internal ramp does not take any more time to construct. It fact it decreases the building time because you can leave empty space inside the pyramid. The Egyptians did not have water pumps. Thus this floating theory is absolutely bullshit.
@@sunpallinkarvat The secrets of building the Great Pyramid of Egypt. On a 26.5° inclined "main inner mobile ramp" located in the "central channel" of the Great Gallery, about 150 workers with the help of a system of traction levers of order 2 with a height of 5 m in which the active force arm "F1 of workers" is b1 = 5 m . The arm of the resistant force "F2 = Gt (tangential component of the weight of the stone block) + Ff (the frictional force given by the weight of the stone block on the sled") is b2 = 1 m. The arm of the resistant force "F2 = Gt ( tangential component of the weight of the stone block) + Ff (friction force given by the weight of the stone block on the sled") is b2 = 1 m, can pull closer and closer on the "main inner mobile ramp" inclined at 26.5° [~ 1,24 m. (distance traveled by b2) X 70 elevations = 87 m. (40 m. length of ascending passage + 47 m. length of the Great Gallery)] a stone block of 60 tons in an "elementary" simple and easy way up to a height of 43 m. for the construction of the King's Chamber. In this case on the " main inner mobile ramp " the lever of order 2 serves to multiply by 5 times the workers traction active force of F1. You can find drawings and explanations on page 32 ~ 43 on the website www.thegreatpyramidofegypt.com in English or Romanian (no money). Leave a comment if you can! Have a nice day. Thanks.
@@sunpallinkarvat and how did the material hold together. or was not drown, during rainfall? you need a tub and drainage, heavy compaction vibrators. this tub seen for yourself, would be another world heritage.
This is beautifully thought-through and illustrated and would work very nicely if they had access to giant-sized plastic tubing, and the mass of the planet was lowered, to diminish the force of gravity. Water is heavy stuff - the elevator-aqueduct is a lovely idea but trying to contain a column of water in a brick elevator shaft up even a very modest height, never mind the pyramids, would be effectively impossible. The outward pressure on the structure would be huge, and it would be in tension where any masonry structure is all but useless. The pressure on the magically sealed gates would be huge even for a single section and the seal would have to be absolute and airtight, both at the gate and through the stones and mortar - if any part of the shaft breathed even a little there would be constant loss of water. There would be a huge daily loss of water simply to evaporation, and all of the losses would have to be carried up the growing pyramid. It's impossible in oh so many ways but it's a beautiful conception.
+murfleblurg Not to mention the more than likely chance for the floatation attachments to break or be punctioned on both the shaft walls and gates due to the enormous inertia of it's load. I don't think that evidence or traces have been found of any large quantities of water nor waterbasins, either.
A cubic foot of water weighs 62 pounds, an eight foot square of it would weigh in at around 4000 pounds. A fifty foot column 200,000 pounds. Even half of that, at 25 feet and 100,000 pounds, would destroy a primitive gate system.
Yes they had primitive tools. The construction of the pyramids is still debated because of what we know of their primitive tools. 8 meters of water is 50000kg, that means every single 8 meters! Not the full height, but the pressure on each and every gates. Now if your gates is made of wood, it needs to be huge to not crack under that pressure, and bigger it is harder it is to move it. The video just shows an innovative idea, but it never happened like that.
this hypothesis seems unlikely. The most obvious problem I can think of right now: how do you work stone underwater? Try swinging a hammer underwater. Try seeing anything in dirty water (and this water would have been dirty). So basically these people would have had to be precise and efficient while standing in chest high water and not able to see what they were doing?
TheNinerion Didn't he say that they only worked the top surface of the stone by making it level with the water? I would worry more about waves making it hard to tell where the water level was than about the water being too dirty to see. EDIT: I would also worry about the inevitable blooms of algae and the huge amount of evaporation that would take place in the desert.
Jacno77 ok, that opens up the question: "where did the gentle running stream come from?" these pyramids are on a plateau in the desert next to the nile... how?! The water hypothesis is cool and maybe even workable and efficient, but is there any evidence for this actually happening? It seems rather unsupported.
Really good theory.My big question is how did the make a good enough seal on the gates? Those gates would have to water tight or nearly water tight in order to work. Now I know humans have been able to make water tight objects for millenia. But I can't think of any objects that can be contained water tight movable parts before the 1800s. Humans pulled it off with a combination of percise, strong, and form fitting components, special lubricants, and rubber.
TC Coltharp They didn't have to use anything special for a sealant. Humans have been dry distilling wood since time immemorial. What does wood distillation get you? Charcoal and TAR. Wood pitch was a great sealant and used all the way through the 1400s in wooden boats. Tar in it's more liquid form (wood pitch is tar, just less fluid) makes for a relatively easy to manipulate, hydrophobic layer of resin for just about ay application.
***** Well the thing is that given the pressures we are looking at, even an opening of a single square centimeter in total could quickly outpace a bucket brigade. Also I doubt the spring was all that strong of a current. A spring will quickly erode itself down to low level of pressure. It probably only saved them some work, not power the whole thing.
TC Coltharp multiple gates = less water preassure per gate. like the guy said in the video. that and the fact that they wouldnt have to be completely water tight
Zamis Gama Like I said, I am quite aware of humans making water tight objects since antiquity. But these objects lacked moving components.If you just create a gate out wood and pitch, water either leak around the edges of the gate at rapid rate or it would stick in place all the time.If you are still having trouble envisioning it, imagine a bottle with cork in it. The cork can make a great reusable seal because it can be compressed and then rebound. To create the gates like they imagine you need a solid that can be compressed and rebound. The rebounding pressure is what makes the water tight seal. Most Solids and liquids can not be compressed and rebound. If you hit them pressure they tend deform or bond instead. Cork & rubber can do this easily. But most lumber won't rebound from compression. So every time you open and close the gate, it will leak more and more. And tar will tend to bond when compressed. So for this to work, the ancients needed a material that would rebound from compression and would not bond when compressed.If you can track down one such material that the ancient Egyptians had access to and I will consider this theory viable.
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I love the theory and the videos! I especially love the demonstration of the working water elevator, it made me think about ways to use this idea for a modern invention or two… I can see how floating the blocks could and maybe even did work to get the blocks to the building site, but; Unfortunately, it seems to me, there are lot of challenges to overcome for this system to really work. Just to mention one, how could they have efficiently pumped that much water up to the top of the pyramid? The other elephant in the room is the problems of constructing a leak proof and strong enough water tube… still I really do love the idea, super creative and inventive. Great food for thought. Thanks for all the time and work you’ve put in to this. I really think you could apply this idea to present day needs and make big money…
the fact that every time the stone is struck while under water slashes and waves are produced, not even considering the movements of the workers by it´s self throws this ides into the dump. amazing all the effort that went into this production but zero thought.
The causeways have a slope of 8.5 degrees. That doesn't seem enough to be effective to float stones. Keeping the volume of water needed for this system to stay full would also be a daunting task
More dawnting than assuming you use MILLIONS of people to drag it. let me ask you this, yo I got a job offer you and some guys can drag a multiton block miles in the hot sun and make a GIGANTIC ram made of MILLIONS of tones of dirt and sand, or. move this floating block along and pass a bucket, while you get to stand in cool water and shade all daw working? And early understanding of water was some of the first science humans were begining to understand. it's also possible the smaller pyramids were done getting the basic concept down and then they just scaled it up bigger and bigger.
@@LegoSwordViedos With the water method you need to carry the same weight of water as stone to the top to keep the pipe full, as far as i can tell as a water engineer. and they had no pump so it would have to be carried up in bladders, also to fill all the leaks. Also the pressure down the bottom is too much
very compelling theory indeed. it sparks the imagination regarding the use of aquatics. I remember the lady that put forth the idea that sails were used to move the huge blocks about and I thought that was very interesting. now add the use of huge stone floatation and hydro atmospheric pressers and your just about there. best I've seen yet. thank you. in these ancient times humans would've been understanding water - hydrodynamics a lot more bluntly than needed today
@Think4yourself ForOnce You're comparing the floating element of the 1st (Hulled ship) with the cargo of the second (piece of stone). lol That's where your mistake is. A more honest comparison would be: ''A Hulled ship vs floating materials'' or ''a fuckton of cargo vs a solid piece of stone''. As you see, when put this way, you can start understanding why the analogy with the ship works...
@Think4yourself ForOnce Let me try again. Hulled ship (floating mechanism) + a fuckton of cargo (cargo) = cargo ship. cargo ships float. Floating materials as explained in the video (floating mechanism) + a solid piece of stone (cargo) = also floats. You comparing the hulled ship (floating mechanism) of the first object, with the solid piece of stone (the cargo) of the second, was a dishonest analogy, if your point is that therefore the second can't float. You see it now? ;)
This theory answers more questions then other theories that only solve portions of the build. Also becomes very interesting when you learn that part of egypt had a massive flooding issue. To the point were the first pharaoh of lower and upper egypt had to construct a massive retention wall to keep the city from flooding annually. So there was lot of water around and lots of knowledge and engineering regarding bodies of water. In any case its still a mystery to mankind.
One only needs to witness the operation of locking sluice gates in a major canal to see the power of hydraulics. Many ancient civilizations used them for aqueducts, harbours, irrigation, public baths and other building projects. The interior chambers are a massively scaled gravity fed hydraulic ram pump. Best theory yet.
Indeed, while the gardens of Babylon have no actual evidence to them, its telling that their myth also describes mechanisms lifting water up to higher elevations for a cycle
So how do you get the water up there in the first place? And how do you have gates and shafts that can practically contain that much water? Remember that the Obelisks demonstrate that the Egyptians could maneuver very large stones in pretty precise ways, but the evidence suggests they didn't have as much knowledge of plumbing, as say, the Romans. And also consider that the water shafts would have to be large enough to move the largest of the stones, which were much wider and much heavier. Imagine a shaft which is a conservative 2x2 meters wide, running up the height of the side of the pyramid, a staggering 185 meters to the top. That volume of water alone weighs 740 metric tons by the time the top capstone was put in place. I don't know how much pressure that exerts on the sides at the bottom, but I'd wager that there would be a leak or two.
The water part is explained in the video, what is unclear about that? Yeah there'd be leaks, but there's no reason that they couldn't close them as explained in the video. Also the biggest blocks didn't need to go up high; the higher you get the smaller the blocks. Building the shafts would be quite a project, but lifting the blocks up with manpower would be even harder. The shafts would probably have been built from smaller more manageable blocks from what I can imagine so it wouldn't be that long of a build time. Plus it might seem hard to built but I do think that if you just make the walls of the shaft thick and the base large enough it would function just fine; back then they probably didn't worry so much about constructing efficiently. And once the shafts are in place the construction would go really fast. I'm not saying it's THE theory though; the water probably wasn't clear so perhaps the in water block cutting wouldn't work; unless they'd do this work in clear water from the underground. Personally I think they moved the blocks close to the base of the pyramid via water transport and then went and built the pyramid the inside out... but who knows how it really went down.
Thebeastcalledmydong No they don't. They claim that spring water could have been used and then piped up the structure. This assumption is betrayed by the facts; 1. There are other pyramids, most notably the Red Pyramid, and other tall, colossal structures built by the Egyptians, with no evidence of any nearby springs. For another example, Khafre's pyramid is almost as large as Khufu’s, and does not have the same internal shaft structure as Khufu’s. 2.The "air" shafts do not continue reach the top of the pyramid, so without having a shaft to build the top of the pyramid, there is no pyramid to lean the shaft against. It's a chicken and egg problem. 3.The egyptian artists depicted themselves as hauling large blocks by ropes, levers, skids, trusses, and boats, but not by "floats" or vertical aqueducts. 4. Herodotus wrote that he was told by Egyptians that wooden machines, probably meaning wooden cranes and levers of some kind, were used . Although Herodotus lived over 2000 years after the Pyramids were built, grooves cut in the bedrock around the pyramid suggest that wooden scaffolding and simple cranes could have been used. Tests with ropes and wood available at the time confirm they were strong enough to complete the task. One of the claims made is that the shafts were sealed with mud, and baked in the sun. This is funny to me because if you ever try to plug a leak from the outside, it never works because the pressure pushes the plug from underneath. If you seal a leak from the inside, the pressure presses the plug against the leak. But if there is mud in the shaft, it will never seal because it is wet, and if the seals are on the outside, they will never hold. Not to mention, with every new course of stones, the water shafts have to be added to and sealed and a new water trough has to be built and sealed as well. On the other hand, wooden cranes and levers, ramps, and lots of manpower, can work course by course with no water, no sealing, with many teams working at once. Lastly, the Egyptians left a pretty good record of how they developed the pyramids; starting with Mastabas, then to a Stepped Pyramid, then to a bent pyramid, then the true pyramids, but after a while, cheaper materials and smaller stones were used and eventually they were abandoned altogether in favor of tombs dug in the earth.
Thebeastcalledmydong I dont think you understand how much water actually weighs. It doesnt matter if they have someone every 5 feet patching leaks, the weight exerted by that much water would make a crack seem like a fire hose.
Trond Tangen This one isn't even crazy, it is based on very reasonable principles, using the available materials of the time. I have to say the first time I heard this I found it instantly more sensible than the idea of building massive ramps or other such structures.
@Dawid Alone? I think I would need quite a few people and the spare time of course. It's really not that stupid as all one needs is a sealed shaft and they had clay and other waterproof and viscous materials which would be suitable for that. Then you need some sort of float device, inflated goats bladders or skins would be suitable and as these have been used by many peoples for transporting water it hardly seems likely the Egyptians didn't see that possible use for them. Remember how ingenious these people were. They built canals up to the pyramid in order to pull barges carrying the quarried stone close to the pyramid rather than pulling it along on sand. Of course the final part was pulled on sand but even then they wet the sand to make pulling the sleds easier. I wouldn't dismiss the idea out of hand just because they were an ancient people. They were smart and dedicated, this can achieve a lot even with technology we today would consider primitive.
Great comment, everytime I hear a new theory about how they were built, that they were power generators, or anything else, I've never seen anyone make even a 1/4 scale model to show their theory is viable
You know something a lot of people probably haven't thought about... Did they have sunscreen? Because I'm not sure how many of you know this, but being in water for an extended period of time, the sun reflects off the water and it burns you way quicker than just being in the sun. (Does that sentence make sense? lol) They mentioned in this that the water would be refreshing for them in the hot sun, but they don't realize the fact that you get sunburned easy if you're in the water for a long time. It could even happen in a day... I only know this because when I was a kid I went swimming at our apartment pool literally all day one day, didn't think of sunscreen at all cuz I was like 8, and that night I was so sunburned I got melted to my bed sheets... :0
This is amazing! I've been looking for a solution to how the water to displace the rocks was transported to the top for a long time and this goes a long way towards explaining that.
sure, 2.5 million blocks cut with 120 million copper chisels and wooden mallets, blocks floated by 100 animal bladders each and miles of hemp ropes, which stretch when wet, per block, inflated by ????.Give me a break.
too bad they try to solve an engineering marvel with another engineering marvel that was impossible to construct. maybe next they will explain how the egyptians built water tight gates and channels with stoneage technology.
I believe this is the best theory I've seen and the most plausible because of the evidence and the science behind it, Occam's razor would apply here and this gives this more credence to this theory.
Its not. The one about using rollers and an internal ramp to make the great pyramid make the most sense. This is nonsense. And that water would be a cesspool within days
Chris Ashtear Not to mention the nearly impossible level of watertighness needed to be achieved with basic tools and primitive technology. I believe this is the main flaw of this theory, because otherwise it would have been a rather solid construction method, though not the most practical. With that amount of water and submerged work, workers would have developed specific illnesses due to prolonged exposure to water. And I assure you, regardless of how nice it would seem to cool off in a pool during the hot Egyptian summers, after a couple of hours spent in that water, it would be unbearable.
peter8488 Occam's Razor would not apply to this idea. He is assuming they had this technology. The old ramp and thousands of slaves idea doesn't need any assumptions. And so by the definition of Occam's Razor we would have to chose the later method. Also wooden sleds designed to pull large heavy objects were found at the site of the pyramids.
daniel fay - The sleds were used for internal ramps. There was more than one way to raise the blocks, using a 7% slope. Greater than that slope and they would need another technology. Water flotation is a great solution.
Doing a little research I found how many stones were in the great pyramid, some weighing more that 80 tons. Now we are told of the time in which the pyramid was built.. Doing a little math, one stone cut moved and placed every 80 seconds. THINK ABOUT THAT??? There are more than 2,500,000 stones.
Okay but his theory says there are four lifts, so quadruple that time: 320 seconds. It's not outside the realm of possibility that blocks could be pushed through both gates in 80 seconds, that's quite a long time after all. Have more than one person working on cutting the blocks: say 10? They didn't have to be perfect, as evidenced today: the blocks are all different. You can always just get more slaves
EpicFishFingers The blocks are all different but all matched very exactly, which I think takes longer than if they are all similar like house bricks. One every 360 sec 12 hours per day would be about 22 years for a million blocks. Bit hard to cart shape lift and position so fast.
soundhill1 They're not positioned perfectly either, where did you get that idea from? 22 years is a completely acceptable time to build 1 million blocks. These could have been built over hundreds of years, I mean why not?
Why accept what the archaeologists tell you when they tell you they were built in 20 years when it suits you, yet choose to disbelieve them when they tell you they were built by humans? No archaeologist will tell you there is rock solid proof for a 20 year build time, yet alien nuts lap that figure up because they use it themselves for their own purposes. Perhaps if you all listened to a bit MORE of what archaeologists have learned, you wouldn't believe stupid things about Space aliens. Archaeologists spend years looking at the actual thing in question and all the actual physical evidence involved. Ancient Aliens authors, spend minutes browsing the internet, looking for other peoples incorrect arguments to repeat and sell books. It's also apparent from other pyramids, that a great deal of the interior of the Great Pyramid is probably rubble and filler. Not cut blocks.
EpicFishFingers He got it from the ancient aliens nuts. I've personally sat at the corner of the pyramid and sighted along the bottom row of blocks and they are pointing all sorts of different ways. SURE, if you average them all out, they point true north. Just like if a thousand people sing a song it will always sound in tune.
What about the rope rubbing they found in the shafts some years ago. They were ignored for decades until someone noticed them and thought them to be where the ropes were attached to a crane like structure in the middle of the pyramid. The ropes had obviously been used extensively as they had cut into the stone blocks throughout the passageways.
Yes, the most literate, obsessive record keepers of their time, didn't leave a single document describing this method of building. This information has been lost to time as has happened countless times with other technologies. We're barely scratching the surface of how they were able to build these pyramids. Edit: Look up what happened at the Library of Alexandria, there was lots of knowledge there.
I was thinking the same, this is actually brilliant and makes a lot of sense. Who knows if we will ever find out exactly how they were built, but this is definitely plausible
That was completely amazing , I like this theory ... the next crazy part to figure out is how, how did they get the pyramids in perfect alignment with the cardinal directions ( N , E , S & W ) . TY very much for the movie, I will be looking for the book, again to for sharing.
They show this glass tube as scale model to demonstrate how a stone (with swimmer ontop) can float upwards. This is working because they have an absolutely air-tight and water-tight tube to have the vacuum holding the water. But I wonder how you could build this from stone, several meters high. Making sure it's air-tight until the top. With movable gates which need to be sealed air-tight again! In a scale where those heavy stones can freely float inside. And sturdy enough not to scatter when the floating blocks bang against the walls. And a second thought: Say, all this is working. Then: How would you press the blocks (with floaters) under water so it can enter the tube's entrance? You would need to apply pressure of several tons AGAINST the floaters, right? And then move it carefully under water until it is inside the tube, then release it carefully so it doesn't bang with 80 toons lifting force against the walls...
You could you could easily take away floats to a precise amount then put any amount of weight on to top sink but there’s a lot more that’s wrong with this idea
well said. there is no vacuum on the top to "lift the water" to a higher level... I've never seen my straw hold liquid at a higher level then what my cup has. Well said Wolfram!
@@rarodriguez I think Thats the job of the two gates.. Vacuum dont hold the water up in the tube.. The gates hold the water up in the tube when they fill it.. at all times you will have one gate closed. thats why they are two.
@lol bad kid Wtf do you know about it? Did you not see the explanations and scale models? Explain how it's not plausible without resorting to your own personal incredulity.
he claims the pyramids are from 4,500 b.c., which is false, weathering and further excavation of the sphynx puts it roughtly at 30,000 bc, as it can clearly be seen by archeologists the numerous stages of erosion, furthermore, using a water based walkway seems feasible, but that only makes sense for the 6 pyramids around giza, what about the 20 or so other pyramids scattered across egypt? they werent built next to the nile, and there isnt evidence of aquaducts sprawling across the entire country, which the egyptians didnt even invent, the romans did, and is recorded as a technological marvel, but apparently the egyptians invented it first? then the claim of each 2 ton block is hand carved? bullshit, each block is precise, you cant even squeeze a bank card through the gaps, and each block is practically perfect, you simply could not acheive this with handheld tools, least of all copper ones, least of all for over 2 million individual blocks, all hand carved and perfect? sorry but you'd have to be an idiot to buy that, why? because how are they getting perfect moulds? thats a catch 22, "the egyptians were able to make perfect casts of stone blocks, by making these perfect moulds" it doesnt explain anything and just adds a rabbit hole thesis as for the comparison of how boats float vs how these stones are supposedly floating, well if you know anything about buoyancy then you would understand that it recquires alot more than just strapping a load of air filled containers onto an object to make it float, boats float due to their shape and material, the underneath of a boat is arched in a very specific way, the stone blocks are not curved, thus the laws of buonancy falls short, due to a lack of structrural support, if you've ever done team building exercises at the seeside, then you'll know that strapping a bunch of plastic drums to some shit doesnt make for a very good raft, it'll kinda work but you'll keep submerging briefly, now change a few people for a 2 ton stone block and you have a better insight, as its depicted that the stone blocks have a flat bottom in this video, meaning they simply wouldnt be buoyant at all, and only the floats support the structure, but air alone isnt going to counter the forces tht are pulling that stone down as thats only what could happen given the video's diagrams, air vs gravity on a ton block, theres alot more in physics to help something float that ive already expressed, i would go more and more into detail but its rather boring to comment on a load of bollocks edit, said 200 ton block instead of 2 ton block, typo's happen
@@marcusavey8529 1: ''weathering and further excavation of the sphynx puts it roughtly at 30,000 bc'' Sources for that? 2: ''and there isnt evidence of aquaducts sprawling across the entire country, which the egyptians didnt even invent, the romans did, and is recorded as a technological marvel, but apparently the egyptians invented it first?'' Woah, easy there with the aqueducts! There's a big difference between an aqueduct and a small canal! Aqueducts span from mountain tops over miles and miles, over any terrain, and is elevated. Aqueducts are A LOT HARDER to build than a simple causeway that doesn't start up in mountains, isn't very long and is not elevated. Please don't pretend like they're the same challenge. 3a: ''what about the 20 or so other pyramids scattered across egypt? they werent built next to the nile'' I don't know you're talking about. Link to one, or name one? Sources? 3b: ''"then the claim of each 2 ton block is hand carved? bullshit'' Your own personal incredulity. Of course you can do perfect blocks by hand. Of course the Egyptians had protractors. And the video explains how they could use the water as a level too. ''because how are they getting perfect moulds'' Yeah they had protractors. It's actually very simple. 4: ''as for the comparison of how boats float vs how these stones are supposedly floating, well if you know anything about buoyancy then you would understand that it recquires alot more than just strapping a load of air filled containers onto an object to make it float'' Baby floaters? WTF seriously? How can you even say something so demonstrably wrong? ''the underneath of a boat is arched in a very specific way,'' 1: There is more than one way to make something float so even though the thing looks nothing like a boat, that doesn't mean it doesn't float just because of that. 2: The angles of a boat hull isn't even for floating! These angles serve as hydrodynamics + stabilizers so that the boat stays upright and can go forward without too much drag. You're all wrong on this boat thing. None of your objections hold any water. ;)
I appreciate the theory, good work. Thank you. But I agree with all of Ted S's comments. Highly, improbable the building of the pyramids was done this way. Research buoyancy in connection to a 1 ton limestone block, along with volume of water, flow of water, size of canals then X's by 80😳 There is no way the pyramids could be built by this method alone. And, I'm not an alien theorist. I do appreciate your time & work but, no. With much respect. Thank you, Joshua
@@kxkxkxkx I don't think that changes the point of the size of the vertical perfectly waterproof sealed channel needed to raise the largest of the large stones. I have seen plenty of explanations for the majority of the smaller stones (Like this one). But no explanation for the largest granite stones of the kings chamber. Even this doesn't explain the precise placement.
Very feasible, but I have my doubts about them being able to hold a "tight seal" with that floating shaft full of water: the margin of error - to cause of failure must have been intolerable!
***** I think you missed the point here... I think he meant the seal on the shaft itself. Such a huge shaft of water would weight a lot, and there would be a lot of stress on the gates...
And I like how they just off-handedly said, "the tube is filled with water." Like that's some kind of easy process. How the heck are they gonna fill that thing with that much water? It's not like they can drive up a line of firetrucks and empty 'em out for a couple days straight. Not buyin' it.
Acid Snow "but I have my doubts about them being able to hold a "tight seal" with that floating shaft full of water:" == That's what I was thinking. That can't be explained by showing a scale model but can be explained only by a life size model and only by using natural materials available at the time. I tend to believe another theory using spiral method (another video elsewhere) more realistic.
That is interesting. I'd love to see someone proof this out one day. Thanks for putting this together. Regardless of whether it is right or wrong, its a different idea that has been thought through and put forward. Good stuff! Cheers.
If it’s proof you’re after look up Joseph Davidovits. He has analysed rock samples and done experiments and has pretty much confirmed that the pyramid blocks were made out of a semi-dry concrete-type mix and poured into place
@@mjmellan noun noun: proof; plural noun: proofs 1. evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement. I'm honestly impressed that someone thought about grammar on youtube. You get props for that. If you could help people learn how to use their/they're/there correctly, I'd be a huge fan.
There is a hieroglyphic showing how they built these objects. It showed a statue on a sled with many people pulling it with a rope and another person pouring water on the sand in front of the sled. They tested it out and it worked. Most likely you aren't going to find a detailed hieroglyph of how to build the pyramids because it has either deteriorated or it was a skill they didn't want advertised everywhere as it was limited to kings. It was probably on long gone scrolls or tablets. If 10000 years from now people invent anti-gravity fields and the engineering knowledge of mechanical cranes are long gone there will be people saying "there's no way they built those sky skyscapers without the help of aliens because anti-gravity fields weren't invented yet!" Just because we don't know the details doesn't mean it's impossible. People are too quick to underestimate then ingenuity of human beings and also rely to much on what "facts" we know about history.
Also you're "Orion's Belt" correlation was proven false. In the original book by Bauval and Gilbert called "The Orion Mystery" the map they show of the pyramids was an inverted image. Because in reality the middle pyramid deviates to much north to line up with the belt. But when the image is inverted (so it is now south) then it lines up. Along with the fact that due to planetary precision the positions on Orion's Belt in the sky was in a different area 10,000 years ago. Just like how everyone's astrological sign is actually one ahead of what they think due to the rotation of the earth's axis over the course of 1000's of years. Of course no one wants to talk about that because it's not as interesting, so it gets lost as a foot note. Just like Christopher Columbus wasn't the first European in America, the Vikings had been visited here long before him. And people believing that ancient countries were all isolated from each other when in fact they all had trade lines to some degree. This is the problem with conspiracy theorists. They believe something, then go and try to find any evidence that justifies their claims while dismissing any that don't. REAL science is just being open minded and willing to accept we just don't know something yet, not just filling in the blanks with "aliens" or "God" and then calling it a day.
Kavan Cheff I'm in the construction industry and I can honestly say the system in this video is way more efficient than most of the stuff we have today, assuming there is an abundance of water and little other traffic which is clearly not a privilege you have today. You should be railing in the intelligence, resourcefulness, ingenuity and sophistication of the Egyptians not having a sulk because it's not built by aliens from delta 9.
+Kavan Cheff So form what source you get your opinion about Pyramids? I'm not ttrying to debate, I have no idea about this stuff, I'm just curious to understand your point of view, any link that can be trust if you have I would be happy to look at it, with a neutral and unbiased view.
I have to say this is a pretty clever concept. I would love to see a simulation testing with this concept. I just cant get my mind around the amount of displacement needed to float 2-3 ton stones, so it would be great to see this simulated and tested. I seen the amazing bubblewrap and 1-2 pound stones, but 2 tons is where I am struggling.
Isn't it obvious... They killed every animal in Egypt at the time to make 1 of those wonderful balloons and used all the water to fill the giant waterfilled air balloon tunnels. That is why Egypt nowadays is all dried up desert with hardly any animals...lol. The video is clever but completely a ridiculous theory...
limestone has a density of 2.7t/m3. So for each block (of aprox 1m3) you would need to displace another 1.7m3 of water, but make it 2m3 to account for the weitgh of the float., So the float, if compeltely hollow, would need to be about 2x size of the block.
Is the water level when shaping limestone topped constantly. Cuz every time the guys get out of the water they will be removing around a litre of water with the wet hair and clothing so over a period of time the water level will drop causing later blocks not being carved to same dimensions as previous ones.
Your technique of using water to determine which material to remove to get the perfect, flat, correct angle on the casing stones wouldn't work because of water displacement. Every time you add a new block to the water, the water level changes. Every time someone new leaves or comes in as well. Not by much, but it would be impossibly unstable.
A person would only displace a pool a few hundreds of an inch in . . .say. . . a channel as depicted at 08:35. Two or three dozen individuals might displace it a couple of millimeters. So I seriously doubt that would be a concern. What WOULD be an issue is the constant rippling and splashing of the water's surface and being used as a level indicator.
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You forget another thing…A pyramid you’re building is No mere edifice it is now an inclined plane for moving objects…At 51.5 degrees is pretty steep for an incline, but still better than nothing. The “Ramp” theories of pyramid building make no sense, because invariably you have to dismantle and rebuild the pyramid’s interior as you get higher and higher and the floor surface area of which you have to work with shrinks. wrapping cut blocks of wood around perimeter of the block, in essence turning it into an axle and the wood as a wheel and rolling the block along. The wheels mechanical advantage exceeds Pulling sleds by order of magnitude… moving a 2-3 ton block of stone by pulling it would require 25-50 men; A 100 ton block would take 500-1000 men. Rolling a 2-3 ton block only takes 2-5 men. So your mechanical advantage and efficiency improve 20-50 fold. E
As far as I know the base block are made of granite stone which is one of the hardest we can nowadays cut it only with diamond saw or laser tech. The the surface is made of lime stone to have the white and smooth appearance.
Yes absolutely. They did marketing research among the people to determine the shape. And then they used CAD software to figure out the tunnels and stuff :D
There is so many flaws in this theory..... 1. Not all pyramids are near water....... 2. Then how wide the canal to the pyramid and around pyramid had to be because of how wide the stones are. This would take alot of time. 3. What i have heard is the stones in pyramid are not just limestone, they are also granite. 4. When they have to be cutting the stones in water it would move around the water alot and not make it easy to shape them. Also when a person is shaping them they have to have atleast 2 people hold onto it from 2 diffrent ways so it doesn't float away. 5. All the extra wood needed to make the blocks to float especially if they are gonna have it on the side waiting...... 6. As some one else mentioned, the gates would be very hard if not impossible to make water sealed. 7. If gates where water sealed then they have to be strong enough for pressure of all the water on it and the pressure of the stone. And there is probaly alot more problems too.
1. Not sure but I believe that they wouldn't need to be near water as long as you could supply the water with a constructed path connected to a lake. 2. Don't see a problem it took 30-40 years to build a pyramid using any other theory (aliens did not make them). 3. Granite was used in the construction, it can float using wood or air filled animal skins, and can be cut using a abrasive and copper tools. (Sand/quarts as the abrasive) 4. A grove would actually be cut into the bottom of the moat around the bottom of the pyramid. Once they had the flat surface the building ground was set, then a grove could be cut in it and the point of the rocks/angled slope that you need to build the triangular shape is placed into the grove and the block would not move. The moat was shallow enough for this. (I'm sure this was shown in this video, maybe another I've seen).
5. They will have used animal skin filled with air to float the stones most likely rather than wood. 6. +7. The gates don't need to be water tight. They just would need to tight enough so that it will reduce pressure so a door that was the right dimensions made from wood would probably do the job, however if this does not satisfy you then there were ways of using mud or tar as a seal that would definitely be fine. I'm not a expert or anything Iv just watched a few videos on this and using what I know put together possible solutions I agree that there could be and will be many other problems that a expert in other theory's/the building of the pyramids could tell you. The only one that fits all the answers would be some fiction about aliens or time travel hahaha. Hope this answered some questions. :)
James C 1. What do you not understand by, no water near them? That means lake, sea, rivers and so on..... 2. Yeah it might be no problem atm, but if there all the sudden shows up a document which says the pyramid was built in 10 years and voila it would be huge problem. And you know there is like +50 pyramids and if each took like 40 years that would be alot of time.....i not checked how long time they said egyptian culture been there. 3. They talk about lime stone being easily shaped by cooper tools. Which is harder lime stone or granite?..... 4. Could you explain this more. 5. So what was it wood or animal skins?..... 6. + 7. They use the doors to keep the water in place so it's filled with 100% water and the granite having wood/skins on it floats in water. So what happens is for example they take 1 stone, drag it up a bit to the tunnel. Close gate 1 behind it. Now the space between gate 1 and 2 is water tight and the stone will start to float against gate 2. Before stone hits gate 2, they open gate and the stona continues floating upward. The second after the stone has passed gate 2 they close it. Because if they keep it open all the water from gate 3 all the way down to gate 1 will be on gate 1 and it might get destroyed. So they have to be water tight, cause if they are not water tight the stone can't float upward.
+Jonas Huovila And...as for using the water to gauge the level of the blocks, with all those blocks being brought in, people cutting them and moving etc...how or when would thewater be still enough to see if the blocks are flat/even or not. Getout there and try it practically.
Remember, just because YOU couldn't build the pyramids, doesn't mean someone else can't. Ingenious yet simple methods made this possible. Egypt had the world's greatest thinkers at the time.
This is such bullshit. Ok it sounds plausible in theory but seriously the whole water shaft idea when up to scale has to many problems. For starters the amount of pressure from the water at the bottom of the shaft would be absolutely crazy. I cant see mud and bricks withstanding that pressure and holding a perfect vacuum with no leaks. And not to mention how utterly difficult it would be to open and close the huge gates with immense pressure on them. If this theory is true however...The whole construction of this system would have to be more impressive then the fucking pyramid itself. Easy enough floating tiny smooth objects up a completely smooth plastic pipe. Try floating multi tonne stone up an angled brick chamber with multiple gates. The shit will be getting caught and stuck non stop plus banging up the bricks potentially breaking the structured seal. The Theory of hauling all the shit with man power up ramps seems more practicable then this.
Ardsgaine That's not true, since the float column was compartmentalised and any one door would only have to carry the weight of two compartments at the most, at any given time.
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Nope, this is not how it's done. Getting the amount of water needed all the way to the top, and the pressure at the bottom. The elevation tube would have to be massive at the bottom which would be an impressive built in itself. Opening and closing the valves with so many tons of water on top would be impossible. I see too many complications to make this doable, great idea never the less.
Klaus Jeppsen Yeah, the initial setup for this theory would be more complicated and time consuming than the pyramid itself. Because they had no rebar, the walls of the "pipe" would have to be extremely thick to resist the water pressure.
If I read the replies under Klaus J's post correctly, it seems to me that those viewers failed to actually watch the video. If they had, much of what they posted as opposition to the theory would be easily answered. Why don't viewers who post comments actually listen and watch carefully? I suggest these two guys replay the video until they get what is being offered as a feasible plan.
watched it, and I still dont believe they could haul as much water, that would be required. If you had watched the video, and used your brain while doing so, this would of been obvious.
We also have to keep in mind that for each stone floated to the top, more than an equivalent mass of water also has to be pumped to the top. The hypothesis is interesting, but I'm not convinced that it was feasible.
that's one fact that demonstrates this is a fantasy. water is hard to maintain and would leave lots of traces all around, considering the building took years
I’m just trying to summarize what I would need if I were to build the pyramid. Required: Archimedes 2000 auger, 5 Km rope 140 trucks of oak tree, 200 axe 10,000 iron chisels and 200 year .