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Updating the Great Pyramid Internal Ramp Theory 

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@HistoryforGRANITE
@HistoryforGRANITE Год назад
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@leckmich8169
@leckmich8169 Год назад
THX from Austria👍
@dravidakumar1697
@dravidakumar1697 Год назад
Herodotos reporting is accurate.. first they would build stepped structure using inset ramps and then fill in the same as well as arrange outer casing stones around this by dismantling the inset ramps stage by stage starting from top down. the geometry problem could be resolved by using ropes to measure the accuracy during each stage of the consturction ........ it makes the best sense as compared all the other complicated theories.
@JonnoPlays
@JonnoPlays Год назад
I bought a shirt and I love wearing it! 👌 💯
@beru58
@beru58 Год назад
About your critique of the counter weight theory that they were not needed cause they had all the man power they would need: Ok. They had enough man power. But not the space to do the pulling.
@syjwg
@syjwg Год назад
Thank you for another great video! I've seen some spiral ramp images that showed the spiral pattern from above. Don't know if it was from the neutrino study/experiment?
@nabiliskandar6598
@nabiliskandar6598 Год назад
I am Egyptian. I am so proud of your detailed knowledge. I am so grateful to you and John Pierre Houdein. On the other hand, I am also so ashamed of Zahi Hawas.
@stevea2909
@stevea2909 Год назад
You should not feel shame. He's greedy in so many ways, he became a joke.
@patriciaoudart1508
@patriciaoudart1508 Год назад
And if Zahi was from a gardians of the pyramid dynasty. This will be accurate to do his best to recover the antiquities robbed from your country and stop speculations, letting Pharaohs living their death in peace! So you could also be proud he dont let clowns trying now to unmount the pyramid to see the inside, what is dangerous.
@jayc2469
@jayc2469 Год назад
I agree do not feel shame because you share the same common country of ancestry to Hawass but I understand that Hawass is a Very Bad advertisement for Egypt
@Kidraver555
@Kidraver555 Год назад
Hawass has promoted the idea that there were no slaves in egypt, shows how corrupt he is.
@MrBottlecapBill
@MrBottlecapBill Год назад
@@Kidraver555 Incorrect. His assertion is that there were no slaves used in the construction of the pyramids............not the same thing. Directly on site he is probably correct.......however in the quarries and places where items were outsourced there were absolutely slaves used.
@johns1625
@johns1625 10 месяцев назад
1 year later they had put a camera into the void behind the chevrons proving the ScanPyramids project correct, and Zahi Hawass immediately started bragging about it and making stuff up about Khufus burial chamber still being in there. It's so frustrating being forced to deal with such a capricious personality in order to study this.
@irtnyc
@irtnyc Месяц назад
Capricious is too kind a word. Insecure egomaniacal jackass, morelike?
@guardrailbiter
@guardrailbiter Год назад
As far as I am concerned, the Great Void refers to the interior of Zahi Hawass' skull.
@busterbiloxi3833
@busterbiloxi3833 4 месяца назад
Hawas is a brilliant and patriotic Egyptian.
@guardrailbiter
@guardrailbiter 4 месяца назад
@@busterbiloxi3833 Did I touch a nerve, buddy?
@busterbiloxi3833
@busterbiloxi3833 4 месяца назад
@@guardrailbiter I'm not Egyptian, if that's what you you're getting at. I'm a European who admires the brilliance of the non-Albion world. Engerland is a land of traitors and toffs and Yobs.
@andrewandres148
@andrewandres148 3 месяца назад
@@guardrailbiter I think you may have, or buster is on robot mode..... And Hawass has a very self descriptive suffix in his name..... He has always been a most annoying self absorbed road block to true Pyramidology... And he does not even look at the great step as important....
@stripeytawney822
@stripeytawney822 Месяц назад
​@@guardrailbiter you might consider things from a local point of view. What has been the Egyptian experience with oh, start with napoleon? Nappy took obelisks and handed them out to countries as party favors. Next, those British? How much art was hauled off to English museums? I have read that the British burned mummies as fuel in steam locomotives. Hawass is an Egyptian. His first loyalty is to HIS country. Controlling the tourism industry- what runs their economy and yeah being the boss and letting all know it is his job. Add in both third world hunger for respect (you will wait in line because I can make you) and disqust for every millennial twerp with a blistery channel degree pimping alantean alienz from planet dumbass theory.... Maybe he is being the gatekeeper his nation needs. Think about it.
@shubus
@shubus 11 месяцев назад
Hawass has been an obstacle in Egyptology for more than 30 years. He has been the ultimate gatekeeper and done everything possible to stifle any ideas put forth other than his own.
@loxoloveXo
@loxoloveXo 8 месяцев назад
Yeahh he needs to go somewhere far away from Egypt. And let people that can solve the mysterious pyramids...
@sirdetmist3204
@sirdetmist3204 8 месяцев назад
@@loxoloveXo One day hell be dead but the secrets will remain to be discovered.
@robertmortimer8288
@robertmortimer8288 8 месяцев назад
@@sirdetmist3204 I really hope that, if there are evidence that undermines some ideas of egyptology, that it have not been destroyed just because of it!
@thelegion3682
@thelegion3682 8 месяцев назад
Helwass must be in his mid to late sixties by now and his personal life has not been lived the healthiest so that being said... He's an obstacle now... But he's not going to be for much longer. That's the beauty of these people. They are mere mortals and don't last forever
@you2be839
@you2be839 7 месяцев назад
Hawass really does seem to be the kind of person that, if he could, he would have someone build a pyramid for him, and then take all credit for himself in building it in some hieroglyphs... he truly embodies a pharaoh without a pschent (crown) like nobody else I know of!! 👌😆
@wendymartin6479
@wendymartin6479 Год назад
Zahi Hawas is the embodiment of Max Planck's quote: A scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.
@TheCuriousOrbs
@TheCuriousOrbs Год назад
Boomers really dont like having their personal beliefs challenged. They never have.
@Nightdreaux22647
@Nightdreaux22647 Год назад
Thanks to the internet the old knowledge will not be forgotten by the new generation.
@Dave-ty2qp
@Dave-ty2qp Год назад
@@TheCuriousOrbs Millennials don't seem to have any beliefs that have merit steeled by experience. But they do have immature ideas that might grow into fruition. I wish you good luck on your quest..
@aolinger680
@aolinger680 Год назад
@@TheCuriousOrbs Middle schooler input is always welcomed here.
@sadavir429
@sadavir429 Год назад
@@Dave-ty2qp Right! Like these guys never take historical context in their analysis, and are blinded by their own baises- Like the reason Hawas is so protective of Egypts archaeological sites is bc they have been looted by European powers for the last 300 years. Europeans even used to eat mummies back in the 1800s that's why there are so few of them left.
@walley2637
@walley2637 Год назад
Zahi Hawass was a villain. i don't know his true motives but he did a lot to hold back Egyptology.
@wtfgreg1246
@wtfgreg1246 3 месяца назад
Still is
@Afdch
@Afdch 2 месяца назад
Money
@RickshawMunky
@RickshawMunky Год назад
History will remember Hawass very differently to what he thinks he deserves
@naradaian
@naradaian Год назад
You are being generous- he is an enemy of humanity and wont be remembered at all
@6thmichcav262
@6thmichcav262 Год назад
I remember watching late 90’s and early 2000’s documentaries with Zahi, and I had no idea who he was. But it was clear he knew who HE was. He thought he owned Egypt. All of it. No, no-ALL OF IT. ZAHI OWNS EGYPT!
@daos3300
@daos3300 Год назад
@@6thmichcav262 i bet he also talks about himself in the third person
@barryminbiole6199
@barryminbiole6199 Год назад
Harass is a legend in his own mind!
@kalrandom7387
@kalrandom7387 Год назад
It also never seems to never come up about him selling off Antiquities.
@ShawnieP512
@ShawnieP512 Год назад
Fantastic video. You showed complete non biased work here. You provided sources and gave feedback both for and against each expert involved. Personally, I admire JPH's work and dedication. He put his heart and soul into it. He seems genuine and sincere and wants to progress science, not his personal agenda like some others. I'm sure he would like to receive credit for all his work, like we all would, but him refraining just shows us his class. People have such shallow egos that they can't admit they could be wrong. That's what science is all about. Testing, evidence, trial and error. I wish him long health and hopefully he can remain around to see some profound discoveries.
@libertyauto
@libertyauto Год назад
I like how you present Houdin's ideas with both respect and skepticism. You acknowledge how his work, even if you disagree with some parts of it, was critical in furthering what we know about the Great Pyramid. Thank you for your videos.
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc Год назад
Sometimes being wrong in a way that causes the right answer to be revealed is as good as guessing right in the first place.
@libertyauto
@libertyauto Год назад
@@mal2ksc Nice. grin
@chrish4439
@chrish4439 Год назад
@@МаркелСосипаторыч lol dude. Do you seriously think your long winded rant, that was essentially just one long run on sentence that didn't even make sense. Is some how a well thought out critique of a theory a man worked on for years? Lol fucking step away from the arm chair there tough 🤡🤣
@mostafaayyad690
@mostafaayyad690 Год назад
ironically, zahi hawass has officially announced the presence of the void behind the Chevron blocks entrance thanks to the great work of the scan pyramid project, which he himself was criticising his results, thank you again and again for your brilliant work
@abcdedfg8340
@abcdedfg8340 Год назад
At least archeology seems to slowly be opening up to realization that specialists in climate scientists, economics, religion, architecture, and engineering, among others can offer valuable insights into more practical problems that archeologists, are not exactly expected to be experts in. There may be some holdouts unfortunately.
@JimAirborne25
@JimAirborne25 Год назад
He seems to have quite a few portraits of himself.
@jameshemphill-lt5fq
@jameshemphill-lt5fq Год назад
OSSILATOR using moon and core...
@chippysteve4524
@chippysteve4524 Год назад
Standard backpeddling tactics of any conman being exposed. The world can see that he is an obstacle to knowledge and discovery. Far too late to start pretending to care about the truth now!
@sitkimintas1451
@sitkimintas1451 Год назад
Zahi hawass is corrupted as you all know he is the head of ministry of antiquity
@gt4654
@gt4654 Год назад
I am fortunate to follow Jean Pierre Houdin from around 2008 if I remember correctly, and I lived almost in real time the problems that Hawas introduced. I remember talking with Jean Pierre in facebook, asking him why he is not in this new "committee", and he explained me briefly the problems and that he was just being patient. At that time, he lost all of his fortune, and his father had just died, and from what I understood, he was being unofficially "employed" by the dassault guy, just to help him, but also to keep him silent on the side, because Hawas was not happy that some "foreigner" was steeling his thunder and the situation was very delicate at that time. It was after Hawas brought down from his "throne" and a new minister was appointed that didn't like Hawas that the whole project started, but the new minister also wanted to keep a balance and didn't bring Jean Pierre.... This is a great but tragic story, but I know that he will be written in history as the guy who started this new wave of explorations that brought all these new discoveries.
@armiltupil1810
@armiltupil1810 Год назад
You have an intelligent Opinion
@gt4654
@gt4654 Год назад
@@frontenac5083 It hapens for me to wuork on the restorant that yu had eatn on yesteday. I hoppe you've enjoid the sekret ingreedient on the whitte sause.
@nwchrista
@nwchrista 7 месяцев назад
Houdin got it right on the spiral internal ramp but badly mangled the rest of it... UNLESS, he intentionally mangled it in an attempt to get through the eternal CRIMINAL, Hawass. This means, he sold his soul... And neither position is where I'd want to be.
@JonnoPlays
@JonnoPlays Год назад
Possibly one of the best available theories to explain construction. Great work as always!
@ottavva
@ottavva Год назад
keep up the good work 😀
@Ron4885
@Ron4885 Год назад
Agree. The grand gallery being used as room for counterweights makes a lot of sense to me.
@ottavva
@ottavva Год назад
@@Ron4885 they'll never stop puzzling us with how they did it
@untouchedsports8296
@untouchedsports8296 Год назад
There was never a ramp. The bricks were formed in place. There is more proof of the bricks being formed than there being a ramp people just choose to believe what they have heard first. If you do some true research you will see this video has no good info at all.
@ottavva
@ottavva Год назад
@@untouchedsports8296 GEOPOLYMERES i.e. liquid mass which solidified into sometime we later believe to be compact rock/stones, maybe combined with actual rock/stones where needed and/or wanted the pyramids were most probably NOT assembled like LEGO cubes, but rather poured and molded, the process just like e.g. a drive way in front of your house
@DarkSlayer010
@DarkSlayer010 Год назад
Thanks for this awesome video, Mr. Granite. I love Houdin’s theory. It really fired one’s imagination. As for Hawass, unfortunately people like him, in positions of authority, will always be a stumbling block to true science and research. With people like him in place we’ll never see another Flinders Petrie come along and uncover the last mysteries of the pyramids.
@johnlong384
@johnlong384 Год назад
You're absolutely right and "Mr. Haw Ass" would sell his grandma before accepting the truth about the pyramids being built long time before Egypt's have been around!
@histoiretraduite
@histoiretraduite Год назад
Since I knew of Houdin's work, I taught it was the most interesting discovery about the great pyramid since a long time. Further Moree, I like Jean Pierre Houdin as a person. The man is full of class, never rude. Things that neither Hawas or the female archeologist "discoverer" of pyramids can stated of themselves. Very well done summary and video. Thks.
@nuntana2
@nuntana2 Год назад
She was very annoying, likely a feminist and likely wrong. Dunno man, as with their construction, should women be involved in the pyramids today? lol
@olsim1730
@olsim1730 7 месяцев назад
*thought
@pedro_mab
@pedro_mab Месяц назад
@@nuntana2 a woman was involved in your birth, but maybe that shouldn't have happened either. waste of oxygen.
@Useless22
@Useless22 Год назад
It’s kind of infuriating to think about the fact that the only reason why we aren’t actively solving the mystery of the pyramids and sphinx is the ego and greed of men who at this rate will die before ever uncovering it’s secrets.
@taimoorshah8230
@taimoorshah8230 Год назад
yes and all that because of that asshole minister.
@JosephFuckinStalin
@JosephFuckinStalin Год назад
Beautifully put, but still very sad. I'm sure there are other capital interests preventing us as well, depending on what the true purpose of the pyramids are
@pkrmkn31
@pkrmkn31 Год назад
@@JosephFuckinStalin tombs obviously
@nonyobussiness3440
@nonyobussiness3440 Год назад
For thousands of years foreigners, distant rulers in Europe and Middle East conquered and ruled Egypt. Taxing Egypt, exploiting Egypt, marveling at its structures, stealing its treasures and marveling at its history while exploiting Egypt. They now are now an independent self ruling nation state with complete control of its marvels. I can’t blame Egypt and the man in charge of telling the rest of the world to fuck off, you cant explore and dig up and take our “shit” away for your entertainment and in the name of knowledge. I don’t think there’s much more to learn about the pyramids. They’re stone giant tombs with some tunnels. There are some mystical secrets in them.
@ZpLitgaming
@ZpLitgaming Год назад
They want to farm it for tourism so they think they need to keep the mystery alive. They probably assume that it's in their best interest to make sure that investigations fail
@JonnoPlays
@JonnoPlays Год назад
Why am I not surprised that Hawass has inserted himself into a scientific process that has nothing to do with him, and erased all trace of the person who initiated the entire thing. That's how I understood it anyway...
@starkistuna
@starkistuna Год назад
He has been doing that for decades, there was one guy that found a subterranean system that had been ignored since Pietrie's days that can possibly connect with the Giza complex , and when he announced it , hawass had it dismissed and locked under heavy security even tho it was a "worthlless" discovery then a couple of years later he takes credit for rediscovering it and is conducting work in that area.
@JonnoPlays
@JonnoPlays Год назад
@@starkistuna so true and shows his consistency at least.
@Vandal_Savage
@Vandal_Savage Год назад
Hawass is a grandiose narcissist who seems to have total control over all of Egyptian archeology... I almost switched off when I saw him onscreen, I cannot bear to watch him talking about himself and how he discovered everything singlehandedly (as he has done in every other of his appearances that I've seen). I watch history shows to learn about history and every time Hawass comes on all he ever does is talk about himself and I learn nothing...
@starkistuna
@starkistuna Год назад
@@Vandal_Savage Lol same he demanded to be in every single documentary shot in his time as reigning the supreme council. I hate everytime he says "perameds"
@GigaNetBoy
@GigaNetBoy Год назад
Also... But rest assured his time will come, and the "perameds" (as the sucker says it) will remain there for centuries to come. He is just another rock on science path to understanding a lot more this ancient culture.
@ldugois
@ldugois Год назад
Thanks a lot of the critical analysis of Houdin's theory. I always like his internal ramp approach and it is great to have a serious review of its probability, as you did. I just hope, like everyone, that we will know in our lifetime
@billywild5440
@billywild5440 Год назад
Thank you for supporting Houdin's work and keeping it in the public eye.
@jakemoeller7850
@jakemoeller7850 Год назад
I was very happy to see John Romer in your video. His presentations are by far some of the most eloquent and informative.
@HistoryforGRANITE
@HistoryforGRANITE Год назад
I like Romer - although he made a colossal error in his Great Pyramid book about the 'air channels' which needs to be addressed. But that book also has one of the best observations I've ever read in Egyptology, which I will share in a video about the same subject.
@EbonyPope
@EbonyPope 2 дня назад
@@HistoryforGRANITE Hey history for Granite. I love your content. But since you showed Hancock and mentioned bias do you see any merit in his theories? Dan from Dedunking channel often defends some of them. What is your opinion?
@milanetc4865
@milanetc4865 Год назад
Never heard of the great step before. Love your antique photo of how it looked. So great. Subscribed :)
@yotday
@yotday Год назад
Any plans on doing a video on the 2nd largest Pyramid? Not many know that a lot of it's base is actually bedrock and a lot of the stones along the base are more megalithic than most of the stones that make up the Great Pyramid. The builders would have also had to have cut out and flatten out the bedrock for where it's base is located. The base they created is also fascinating since it is made up of megalithic blocks that were laid down and locked into place to create a surface for the base of the Pyramid.
@mnomadvfx
@mnomadvfx Год назад
Megalithic is a really dumb word, it just means big stonework. Please stop using it - it's stone, not magic and its use confuses the subject matter needlessly.
@yotday
@yotday Год назад
@@mnomadvfx Megaliths, derived from the Latin mega (large) and lith (stone). Only one bringing up magic is you.
@pii-chan8804
@pii-chan8804 Год назад
I really don't get your disproval... the term is accurately used in this instance. Only children believe in magic, so why even bring it into a discussion 😆??
@DriftWizard750
@DriftWizard750 Год назад
@@pii-chan8804 any civilization with sufficiently advanced technology, would be indistinguishable from magic. Please try harder next time!
@johnwalker1553
@johnwalker1553 Год назад
@@pii-chan8804 Where in the text did you read about magic? Building foundations are one of the most critical elements of any project, even though they aren't visible when the home or structure is complete. On this Article, I refer you to a book by Mark Lehner. However, you should know what you are writing. Magic and Demonology in Ancient Egypt (Harvard Museum of the Ancient Near East) Public Lecture by Rita Lucarelli War of the Magicians: Si-Osiris and the Nubian Sorcerer Papyrus Westcar (The King and the Magician) The Concept of Heka. I AM HEKA ! To Become A Magician -- Wim van den Dungen
@louislux
@louislux Год назад
I remember watching the video about Houdin's theory a long time ago. I'm glad I stumbled upon an update. It's a shame Houdin's work is still met with so much skepticism even though it has a lot of merit and is very intriguing.
@stevelangstroth5833
@stevelangstroth5833 Год назад
No, they KNOW Houdin is onto something. That's why they are so dismissive of him. It's there way of saying, "Pay attention to me, instead!".
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc Год назад
Skepticism is all well and good, but when someone makes testable predictions that are well within the ability to check (although it takes permission), then philosophy is the wrong tool. Get out there and make the measurements. Oh wait, they did, and that just pissed off the authorities even more.
@markbrown5253
@markbrown5253 10 месяцев назад
I just wanted to drop a comment that I really appreciate your critical yet open-minded attitude toward this subject. So many people view it either simplistically or go straight to "ancient aliens," of which neither really advance the scholastic investigation of determining the how of building the pyramids. I studied history, not engineering, but I appreciate having an open mind, but not so open as to suggest human couldn't possibly have built them.
@nefernefer19
@nefernefer19 Год назад
Amazing content, honestly! I just can't get enough! I always defended the point that Archeology should be joined by Geologists, Engineers and Architects as they would have a lot of light to bring according to their knowledge and experience. The best pyramidologist that I've known in my life started his career as an Economist! He travelled to Egypt more than 120 times in his life and he's is one of the few people that has visited and filmed the whole pyramid inside, even the well-shaft. He sadly pased away in 2020 but I'm sure he would have enjoyed a lot your videos.
@stephenjohnson9560
@stephenjohnson9560 Год назад
Another great presentation and constructive analysis. It was great that you gave tribute to Houdin as with all theories whether we think they are correct or not they give us another avenue to the truth. Look forward to the next video and thank you.
@jasonbull6560
@jasonbull6560 Год назад
36yrs ago doing my bricklayers apprenticeship we were asked to explain or suggest how the pyramids were built. I came up with almost exactly the same theory, I was ridiculed and laughed at. I used too blush a lot, VERY Humiliating. Much thanks. Always ask a Builder.!x
@donnievance1942
@donnievance1942 Год назад
Many years ago I also had the thought that the pyramids could have been built using a spiraling ramp built on the structure itself, although I imagined it as being on the outer surface. I see that the idea of an internal ramp does away with some of the problems of the external spiral that I had imagined. It's kind of surprising to me that the general idea of a spiral ramp didn't come to the foreground long, long ago. It seems like a rather obvious solution.
@klubstompers
@klubstompers Год назад
As a union mason i would have said, "go ask a hod carrier, keeping me stocked is their problem." :D Iv'e always thought an internal ramp would be the best solution as well, with the ramp being right being the casing stones.
@karlkarlsson9126
@karlkarlsson9126 Год назад
The Pyramids suggests to me that whoever built them really knew around the architectural structure of it, various "blueprints" and mini-models with accurate calculations was probably very much present before they started building. The shape of the Pyramids suggests a bottom to the top building process with layer on top of layer. Lifting stones for the most part doesn't seem necessary, but more likely "dragged/pulled" and then carefully dropped into place. How they adjusted the precision with other stones I have no idea, but surely some imperfections must be found as well. If internal ramps were used it has to been a core part of the structure, meaning that the ramps was a part of the building process from the beginning, and then they somehow pulled and dragged stone-blocks into place to build floor after floor. If they actually did create internal ramps they must have been operational all the way to the top, or close to it. If this would be the case then these ramps should still be there inside the Pyramid today as a part of the structure, or at least one may think, unless the "Egyptians" had some kind of plan on how to fill the ramps with stones as well on the way down after the Pyramid was finally built.
@klubstompers
@klubstompers Год назад
@@karlkarlsson9126 The theory is that the ramps are still there, but they were filled with stones. They would have to slide a block all the way to the top, and then put another just below it, until they hit the bottom of the ramp. Using log rollers under the stones to move them up the ramps, would be the way to go. I have moved wood stoves and inserts, weighting up to 1000lbs with broom sticks as rollers.
@garymitchell5899
@garymitchell5899 Год назад
Why are you lying dude. 4,500 years we haven't a clue but some kid gets it in five mins. FFS.
@collectiontime7341
@collectiontime7341 3 месяца назад
Honestly Houdin should be proud. He's the only person who's ever offered a comprehensive and sensible explanation giving precise engineering principles and in doing so he gives great respect to the Ancient Egyptian builders' sophistication and abilities. It is the mainstream who should be ashamed and lambasted, THEY are the ones who, in portraying the Egyptians as rudimentary in their engineering skills, pave the way for speculations on the AE not having been the true creators of the pyramids. Even if they don't agree, it's the best theory we have. That alone should mean it is promoted as the correct thesis, only when a better idea comes along should it be changed. Isn't that the whole point of academic study and peer review, I mean they tout that all the time in dismissing other alternate theory such as those by Chris Dunn et al
@daveburrows9876
@daveburrows9876 Год назад
It felt really good to hear this. It comes across as authentic, objective and unbiased. You asked questions and pointed in rational directions for answers about many of the things I have also been thinking. I'm not a scientist, but I've been fascinated by Egyptology for nearly 60 years. Zahi Hawass is an enigma. It's not unusual for people who have a lot invested in being very certain to feel easily threatened. Scientists, after all, are merely more focused, more neurotic versions of anyone else.
@donnievance1942
@donnievance1942 Год назад
Apparently you're a person who doesn't live in a social sphere where you've ever met many or any scientists. The scientists I've known have tended to be more down to earth, psychologically balanced people than the average. They also tend to be kind of outdoorsy and more physically fit than the average schlepp. After all, you're talking about people who have had the discipline and mental resilience to master huge volumes of knowledge over many years of professional educational training. This kind of person tends to be emotionally stable and generally maintains a high level of health.
@KameraShy
@KameraShy Год назад
History will not remember very well scientists who unreasonably protect their theories only to have them debunked years later.
@markuse3472
@markuse3472 Год назад
@@donnievance1942 Hawass was replaced or, fired yet, all university and other tech institutes professors teaching evolution as fact still have their jobs. You mistake me on Hawass: no, I don't condone his dishonesty. Saying that, it is outright brainless to support evolution when it has been proven a total lie by Honest science, specially and most importantly, in mathematics/numbers (the only none bias and none prejudice science), not only millions, not only billions, but Trillions of times beyond the point of Probability. Many scientists are overall honest, but evolutionists are Not scientists but counter it instead. Oh, yeah: most scientists on biology, archaeology, anthropology, geology and a few more, are not as you said "down to Earth..." but arrogant, overly proud and ignorant when challenged, specially when it comes to creation, in which there is much evidence for.
@turin357
@turin357 Год назад
This is quality work, well thought out. I have never been a big fan of Houdins ramp theory, and still think in whole it is unlikely, but I was unaware of the full extent of his exclusion. It saddens me that Houdin was never given enough access to develop his theory while undoubtedly showing that he was graced with all the humility that never made it into Hawass at his making. I could be wrong, but I believe you made this as a homage not to Houdins theory but the man himself, and your objective approach combined with knowledge of the field of Egyptology has resulted in something I would have said belongs on the History channel. In truth, your work far exceeds anything they have produced n at least the last 2 decades.
@Tailss1
@Tailss1 Год назад
Those blocks didn't get up there on their own and until mainstream archeology/Institutional Egyptology can tell us how it was done (that actually isn't silly) Houdin's theory is the best in my opinion we have got.
@otherkorean
@otherkorean Год назад
Can't be on the History Channel without aliens, though. Also, great vid.
@turin357
@turin357 Год назад
@@Tailss1 I agree, it is far better than many mainstream ideas, and it is why it saddens me he was able to develop the theory further because he could have overcome some of the problems with the theory. But the theory didnt even attempt to solve all of the unknowns. I would personally like to see more work on the geopolymer idea, I believe it is a fairly low tech solution that removes much of the logistical and precision issues that most other theories dont even try to explain.
@turin357
@turin357 Год назад
@@otherkorean There was a point about 15-20 years ago when I could say that I had seen the entirety of the History channels catalogue. The majority of it multiple times. When H, Disc, and Sci went to hell, I quit watching TV altogether, cant say I miss it.
@KameraShy
@KameraShy Год назад
Politics and egos rule.
@jiraiyagoketsu5092
@jiraiyagoketsu5092 Год назад
A long time ago I was privileged to see a presentation by some university students who invented muon scanning. They actually scanned the Khafre pyramid, and found voids within it.
@saturno_boom3490
@saturno_boom3490 Год назад
Hi! Are you saying that also in the pyramid of Khafre they find some kind of void? 😯😯😯
@merlin9702
@merlin9702 Год назад
​@@saturno_boom3490 No there were no voids found
@Jack-Hands
@Jack-Hands Год назад
I remember watching Houdin's documentary. Quite enjoyable.
@lowtuned
@lowtuned Год назад
if you know about this theory, especially the gallery and its purpose, you can apply it to other buildings. there is the stepped pyramid with its "chimney". inside the "chimney" there are marks of slabs or something and nobody knows what they were for. but if there were counterweights used to lift stones up high... it makes perfect sense to have a vertical shaft, and to stop the weights with slabs from falling all the way up or down that shaft.
@crhhh6045
@crhhh6045 Год назад
smart
@kxkxkxkx
@kxkxkxkx Год назад
Fill the chimney with water and you can just attach floatation to the blocks and lift them effortlessly using buoyancy ☝️
@untitled6391
@untitled6391 Год назад
@@kxkxkxkx no way they had the technology to make it all watertight.
@kxkxkxkx
@kxkxkxkx Год назад
@@untitled6391 yeah no way they could get hold of any bitumen 🤭 genius
@kxkxkxkx
@kxkxkxkx Год назад
@@untitled6391 obviously you're too dumb to understand my subtle rejoinder, so just read this if you can: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bituminous_waterproofing
@keithfitzpatrick4139
@keithfitzpatrick4139 Год назад
It seems greatly probable that the lower third was done with a large external ramp. It also seems highly probable that the grand gallery had a lifting function and that an internal spiral ramp was used to complete the upper portion. I look forward to more discoveries.
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc Год назад
It's not like this was the first pyramid built, I'm sure the had developed multiple ways of delivering materials where they needed to be. Some of those would have worked great for smaller pyramids and then not scaled well or only covered the base of a larger pyramid, like a fixed ramp. I know the "spiral outside" method has a problem of hitting corners and having to turn large blocks, but what if the scaffolding earth was laid down in a circle rather than sticking closely to the perimeter of the current level? Then the blocks would still have to be turned, but they'd be turned _continuously,_ without any sudden changes of direction. The disadvantage is, of course, that you're not taking the shortest path, but that may have been an acceptable price to pay. A round mound will also be less prone to collapse, since it is already closer to a relaxed, slumped state.
@SyntheticSpy
@SyntheticSpy Год назад
@@mal2ksc I guess they could’ve also rotated them the correct direction on the ground, and then pulled them from different sides in one direction, switching at each corner
@wilhallman2890
@wilhallman2890 Год назад
Even so, the sheer magnitude of the pyramid, the amount of material, etc is just insane
@Bassalicious
@Bassalicious 9 месяцев назад
I think these construction and engineering possibilities make them all the more fascinating. "Hundreds of thousands of slaves" brute forcing it is impressive but less so than much fewer skilled workers making use of brilliant techniques with limited material quality and relatively low technology imo.
@JuisSekasi
@JuisSekasi Месяц назад
​​​​​@@BassaliciousRome before its collapse, before Constantinople, was largest city by population in the world, with just over million people, yet somehow there was hundrets of thousand slaves in egypt... when romans "refound" egypt, the egyptians told stories if the romans visiting there, possibly thousands years before... yet by romans there was only 4-8 million people in whole of egypt at the time, bit over thousand years after the pyramids were built. Russia has bit over 540 000 soldiers in ukraine, and they have population possibly 36 times larger than egypt at roman times, with moscow alone having same population as whole egypt back then. USA that hosts 20% of all prisoners in the world has just 1.2 million prisoners , with US population being 333million. at the start if the civil war USA had 3.9million slaves, about 40% of all slaves ever in USA, and the whole us population was 31million, 7,7 times more than in egypt even in roman times. hundrets of thousands if slaves, even 100k slaves seems impossible, and prolly is.
@RobertBreckenridge13
@RobertBreckenridge13 Год назад
Hawas fancies himself the Walt Disney of Egyptology. He wants to be a larger than life character, charming, immortal, omniscient. He wants to be a modern pharaoh, basically. He also doesn't care who he has to trample or how many lies he has to tell to achieve it.
@urnicer1
@urnicer1 Год назад
Hawass is the worst. Cant believe he was never charge .
@johnnycab8986
@johnnycab8986 Год назад
Reminds me of Neil Degrasse Tyson, slimy, dim witted, self serving 'scientists.'
@DennyTolhurst-BARCH
@DennyTolhurst-BARCH Год назад
Well, he did everything in his power to come as close as he could to completely controlling ANY and EVERY research effort approached or done in/on ancient Egypt for a very long, very long time. We can be sure that 99% of what we all know of, when it comes to ancient egypt from the past 40 years or so, has been directly controlled and or limited by the controlling grip of Zawi Hawass indeed. Shameful legacy that Egypt is going to have to bear for many, many years to come.
@jordanwilson2470
@jordanwilson2470 Год назад
Zahi Hawas, thinks he is the Egyptian version of Indians Jones!! That portrait of him with the “Indi Hat” is just precious.😂
@evarichieangelo86
@evarichieangelo86 3 месяца назад
😂
@bastadimasta
@bastadimasta 5 дней назад
Wrong. Zahi Hawas thinks George Lucas created the Indiana Jones character after Hawas himself.
@doronron7323
@doronron7323 Год назад
Another fascinating video, thank you. I admire your humility when considering all aspects of the pyramids and your evaluation of what is available to you. I'm quickly consuming these presentations and appreciate how much work is put into them. Please continue.
@WolverineOfficial
@WolverineOfficial Год назад
i am really happy that i saw this video , the host of this video or the creator of this video actually have a better idea then most of the scientists itself and that makes me feel really good about the information provided , thank you soo much for this beautiful information provided by you and thank you for making this video ♥
@JaiPritchett
@JaiPritchett Год назад
Why the F would anyone decide to "restore" the "step"? Cant they just remove the material that was used to fill in the funnel? I love this theory! Its not conclusive. I can not wait till there are more discoveries of records that explain evidence. Such a wonderful mystery we were all left with! Thank you whoever left us with these incredible ancient relics JUST A CONSTANT WOW
@mikethemaniacal
@mikethemaniacal Год назад
i love your stuff. well thought-out, well-presented, and a joy to watch. thank you for sharing these ideas.
@mikethemaniacal
@mikethemaniacal Год назад
heres my two cents. im 100% on board with the internal spiral ramps. the grand gallery being a counterweight system holds a lot of water with the evidence, such as the scraping along the sides throughout the gallery and the older photos of the great step definitely looking like some sort of guiding notch. however, i also think that it is a facade of deception, so to speak. i think the great void is a double-chamber burial room (or perhaps triple) as in the interior of the red pyramid (snefru). the way the air shafts from the kings and queens chambers bend and turn suggest another chamber in the interior as well. i think this is the real final resting place of kufu, with the current broken sarcophagus placed in the pyramid in an already broken state via the non-load-bearing block directly in front of the sarcophagus on the northern wall. the “official” (but completely hidden) access to this area being the hallway-like void behind the chevron blocks above the regular entrance (or perhaps some northern entrance yet to be discovered). i think there were meant to be two sections of the pyramid once it was completed, and i believe they were meant to be separate as in the bent pyramid before the connecting tunnel was dug. perhaps there was the “public pyramid” which we currently have access to, and the “private pyramid” which is the aforementioned hidden chambers. deception seems like a theme in this pyramid. i also think the subterranean chamber was for doing cult worship but was intentionally unfinished so people would just do their libations and not go looking for anything, but thats another thing. kufu seems like the kind of guy who would troll robbers “hey you got through the granite plugs in the ascending corridor, ill trick you with the immensity of the grand gallery only for you to end up with a broken coffin. oof, looks like someone beat you” all the while being tucked in safe.
@-Gumbo
@-Gumbo Год назад
I like Houdin's theory, it is the best so far I think, but what really annoyed me is when Bob didn't prepare properly to inspect that void. He should have taken an inspection camera or something. I also agree with you about the casing stones. It serves no purpose to finish them before transportation.
@mnomadvfx
@mnomadvfx Год назад
"but what really annoyed me is when Bob didn't prepare properly to inspect that void" To be fair it really isn't his area of expertise and he did the best he could given that fact. The problems extend far beyond that to the gatekeeping effort preventing a return to investigate with more equipment. "It serves no purpose to finish them before transportation" Of course it does - transportation weight. That being said I don't believe they transported it all the way from Tura that way, possibly from the base to the top of the ramp.
@lubumbashi6666
@lubumbashi6666 Год назад
Considering the difficulty and sensitivity obtaining permission, it might have been prohibited. If Bob suddenly whipped out a fancy piece of equipment the Egyptian handlers could have stopped the filming.
@JeanPierreHoudin
@JeanPierreHoudin Год назад
Bob was not supposed to inspect the cavity behind the notch...He stumble on it when he went up there...Big surprise for him... As for me, the Secretary General of Antiquities prohibed me to climb with Bob...Too afraid that I could discover something... By the way, this cavity was known since the 16th Century and I've many ancient text from the following Centuries which are about it. It disappeared from the "news" in late 19th Century...and was brought back to life by Bob and I in 2008.
@dollyhadbraces9361
@dollyhadbraces9361 Год назад
@@JeanPierreHoudin i respect you
@johanzuidema353
@johanzuidema353 Год назад
@@JeanPierreHoudin Isnt the issue more that u couldnt/wouldnt pay Hawas ? (In my experience money turns an Middle-east no quick in a YESS!-Sorry if I insulted one.)
@jsbaker2795
@jsbaker2795 Год назад
Thousands of years later we're still scratching our heads. That's just mind blowing to think about.
@seeerr5570
@seeerr5570 Год назад
Thanks for this. Houdin's theory always fascinated me, and it is so disappointing that the antiquities leadership, current and past, as well as the vast majority of the egyptoligy community has done everything it can to get in the way. At the end of the day, it should be about finally determining how the pyramid was discovered.
@claudio2874
@claudio2874 Год назад
One of the best if not the best video I've seen about the construction of the pyramids. My sincere congratulations. I believe that we will only go further in this direction when we remove a "big block of the way": Zahi Hawass
@hm5142
@hm5142 Год назад
That the ancient Egyptians came up with this incredible approach is really remarkable. The fact that they could build the pyramids at all is really amazing.
@TalkingGIJoe
@TalkingGIJoe Год назад
it really isn't... this was world wide knowledge for a long time... it was lost to the earth cataclyism cycle. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Kywa1QsvwKc.html
@TannerSwizel
@TannerSwizel 7 месяцев назад
Ramps aside, I think parbuckling would be a much easier way to move the large stones up the pyramid. Sleds make sense for delicate and asymetrical objects like statues, but rolling the stones themselves by ecasing the ends in some sort of wooden structure like how the Greeks move many of their temple stones would make more sense than sledding them or rolling them over loose timbers
@ashrafulhaque8759
@ashrafulhaque8759 Год назад
Another incredibly educational and informative video. You are surely becoming one of the leading authority explaining Pyramids secret.
@Incandescentiron
@Incandescentiron Год назад
I was looking for an update on this story less than a month ago. Thank you so much for posting!
@flikersprigs5641
@flikersprigs5641 Год назад
I found one video from your channel, a day later I'm going down an ancient egypt rabbit hole and designing a pyramid dungeon for dnd. your videos are great and you should keep them up
@patrickblanchette4337
@patrickblanchette4337 Год назад
Thank you for your fair & balanced take on the Internal Ramp Theory.
@silvijosokol9539
@silvijosokol9539 Год назад
After all those pyramid chanell that I come across this one is amazing, pictures, videos, and narration are on the point, and really amazing, keep up the excellent work.
@AFowkingPanda
@AFowkingPanda Год назад
When I found out Hawass is no longer director I jumped for joy but as you pointed out, institutional Egyptology still has more Hawass' standing in the way of actual investigations... Thank you so much for making a new video and I cant wait for your next!
@mnomadvfx
@mnomadvfx Год назад
Which means.... he's not alone in the way that he thinks, not even remotely. He's 75 so he will die or retire within a decade or 2, but the institutional mindset will remain, mark my words. This is what comes from treating Egyptian archaeology like a strip mining operation since Napoleon led his own expedition here before the English and various others started blasting their way through things. The western nations fostered this gatekeeping attitude in many Egyptians - and only continues to reinforce it by refusing to return countless ancient Egyptian artifacts. You can bet that if Houdin brokered a return of French kept ancient Egyptian relics to the Cairo Museum that he would go from being treated like 💩to being treated like 👁Ra himself overnight, and get his own little plaque on the new exhibits to boot.
@UnitSe7en
@UnitSe7en Год назад
I believe that Hawass himself is still standing in the way. As the video says, even after being relieved of position, he still took the authority upon himself (no doubt with blessings) to determine what is right.
@JPCollectables
@JPCollectables Год назад
Yes! Just found your channel and binge watched everything! Been hanging for the next upload.
@marcmarc172
@marcmarc172 5 месяцев назад
Always the highest quality content on this subject. No one else on this planet matches your work.
@ashleyking6743
@ashleyking6743 Год назад
So glad I found your channel back at the very beginning. Your channel is growing pretty fast which is awesome to see. Keep up the great work mate. I’m really enjoying your vids.
@HAL9000.
@HAL9000. Год назад
Not a Zahi Hawass fan then, huh? 😂 Another great video. Working my way through them. I'm a fan of Bob Brier from years ago. Such an accessible way of learning.
@wmfwoodworking
@wmfwoodworking 10 дней назад
"New fangled technology" ? ...what? Thank you for your content and dedication. I respect and appreciate all that you have done for this community. Thank you. ❤
@smole321
@smole321 Год назад
You only need one ramp for the counter weight and the block lifted. If you have the counter weight long and thin it could fit in the groove under the raised section on the walls with the places for the wooden rollers to go. This way one block goes down underneath as the other raises up on top on the rollers. The stairs could have been carved after or placed after. The only missing part would be a larger roller for the rope connecting the counter weight and block being lifted to connect around
@dougg1075
@dougg1075 Год назад
I bet it was done so simply that if we were told we would say “ I should have known”.
@cerebralm
@cerebralm Год назад
I think the spiral ramp theory fits that description :)
@notreally2406
@notreally2406 Год назад
@@cerebralm I don't
@andrewrehnert4997
@andrewrehnert4997 Год назад
Exactly Genius is usually seeing the absolute obvious
@Tony-dp1rl
@Tony-dp1rl Год назад
Probably something like this, far easier, less waste, no internal magic needed. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j4cdDT1ZvAA.html&ab_channel=JohnTupper
@cerebralm
@cerebralm Год назад
@@Tony-dp1rl This would have left far more extensive and visible evidence then the internal spiral ramp theory, would it not? Seeing as there would be a large region of separate, non-interlocking blocks spiraling up the outside of the pyramid? Wouldn't we have noticed that by now?
@kadmii
@kadmii Год назад
one benefit to labor-saving technology for building the Great Pyramid is that it makes the massive reservoir of labor that was available more effective in producing ever-grander achievements. As you pointed out, 600-man teams pulling up massive stones starts to run into logistical concerns irrespective of how many thousands of people might be on site
@robinmcara793
@robinmcara793 9 месяцев назад
Plus, there are megalithic slabs above the Kings chamber that a ramp would not be able to be used.
@n3d.studio
@n3d.studio Год назад
I didn't think an internal ramp needed to start at the bottom either when a single ramp was probably used too. Houdan's ideas are really intriguing and one day will get the credit he deserves. The grand gallery as a construction device is really eye-opening, the marks and those slots. the void, we'll never know because you'd have to deconstruct the pyramid and that won't happen but it likely was used in the construction. glad you covered this documentary and construction theory.
@youtubecomments5951
@youtubecomments5951 Год назад
Imo. Anything they find out now is all thanks to houdan his is the one who got the idea to solve it. Only to be cut off with someone with more power and has the ability to get permission to do work on the pyramid. Scan pyramid will be know as scam pyramid for taking credit on others ideas.
@hawaiianprestigecars8493
@hawaiianprestigecars8493 Год назад
the internal ramp is very likely the key
@someoneout-there2165
@someoneout-there2165 Год назад
They know they can't take it apart because they wouldn't be smart enough to put it back properly. People were obviously much more intelligent back then. 👍
@n3d.studio
@n3d.studio 4 месяца назад
@@hawaiianprestigecars8493 I'm not sure it had to be internal ramp, but I do think it was a ramp along the outer edge starting from where the straight ramp ended. I think an internal ramp would have been overly complicated when you could have it on the outer edge but still within the footprint of the structure.
@karlkarlsson9126
@karlkarlsson9126 Год назад
I think the Grand Gallery being used as an construction ramp is so cool, especially when they walked through it on the documentary, just standing there seeing all the markings for it, it felt very conclusive, it was used for something all right. It's a shame people behave like children when all people are trying to do is to just figure out how something were built.
@franciscorompana2985
@franciscorompana2985 Год назад
Hawass wanted to appear on TV, that's all. 📺
@LBCAndrew
@LBCAndrew Год назад
The slope of the grand gallery is about 26 degrees. I'd love for someone to demonstrate using sleds and pulleys, the moving of an 80 ton block of granite up such a steep grade with manpower.
@karlkarlsson9126
@karlkarlsson9126 Год назад
@@LBCAndrew Counter-weights an trolleys.
@gjh42
@gjh42 Год назад
I believe the idea is that the Grand Gallery is a path for counterweights, not that the big blocks were pulled up in it.
@greg1161
@greg1161 Год назад
@@gjh42 , same group(s) can reset counter weight while first sled descends back for another larger block. Pretty freakin' clever. I believe the "mystery voids" were there for the functionality of the pyramid. Used to have a moat around it too. Perhaps that's why the main door is located above ground level. Perhaps the drummers/caretakers took boats over. Tesla designed his Colorado Springs wireless energy device after the great pyramid's setup.
@axlslak
@axlslak Год назад
It took me a few weeks to get up to speed with the subject. But I think I can form an minimally informed opinion about the subject. I will only address what seems interesting to me because I assume it's going to be a long post. I will start with the most obvious thing for me. The drawing at #1:30 where we get an artist impression of what Herodotus was describing to us, about the description that he got. So it's 3rd hand knowledge, AT LEAST, but I trust it the most. And here is why. Forget about the pyramids. Let's just start over with something simpler. The Unfinished Obelisk. Now, in truth, that one came 1000 years later. And I'll keep numbers round to make some sense of them. Now, the way The Unfinished Obelisk is carved, allow us to see that they expected at some point to be able to raise it. That thing is around 40 meters long, and 1000 tones heavy, and was carved in a quarry of granite like in a bathtub. Now, again, it came 1000 years later vs The Great Pyramid, but we might expect similar technologies to be used. Now, if you assume a person can lift like 50 kilos, than in order to lift a block of 1000 tones, you would need about 20000 people. Just to lift it from the position (tub) where it was carved. You can't fit 20000 people in the space of 40 meters, so brute force is out of the question. So you would need a counterweight system, as described and drawn above. We wont find any cranes as described/drawn because they were repurposed, and removed once the job was done, but I find it terribly improbable that they didn't have this technology. And if they did in one place, they did in all places. Meaning that if they knew how to use counterweights at the quarry, they must have had T shape cranes at the docks/ports too and at the pyramids themselves as well. And that solves a tone of problems. Second problem in my estimation is that people tend to think about the pyramids leading with The Great Pyramid. They really shouldn't. The Great Pyramid is the oddity, not the rule. Lets make some simple generalizations about pyramids and you'll see what I mean. Excluding The Great Pyramid, how many pyramids use rooms above the level floor? None. How many use granite so much? Well some use it, but in modest amounts, for the burial chamber. Either for floor or ceiling or Sarcophagus. And the plugs that block corridors. But NEVER high-up in the pyramid. Sometimes below ground level. So you see, The Great Pyramid is the oddity, not the rule. I think it's important to remember the "who". At least what we know. So we're talking about rulers of the 4th dynasty. Just to put in some context, the little that we know. So the first ruler was Sneferu, and he is attributed with the Red Pyramid. One single room, middle of the pyramid, with a single corridor going down to it. The room at floor level btw. His son Khufu follows him. I only mention Sneferu to point out 2 things. The time we think it may have elapsed since The Red Pyramid till The Great Pyramid at Giza. New site. New technology. Raised rooms. Multiple rooms, Grand Gallery. The Great Pyramid doesn't resemble anything that came before, and nothing that came after. It's important to remember that. Next after Khufu, follows Djedefre, that has both a short reign and a modest pyramid. I mean, in our time, seems like just rubble, but it said that in his time it was the most beautiful. Many things to say, and prolly most revealing. Wikipedia reads: "Djedefre's pyramid was architecturally different from those of his immediate predecessors in that the chambers were beneath the pyramid instead of inside". Well technically, Djoser Step Pyramid that came, uhm, 5(?) pharaos before it also had an underground burial complex. Let's move on. So Djedefre has a small but (said) beautiful Pyramid) and a short reign. Then Khafre follows, that is not the son of Djedefre, but his brother. And he builds the second large pyramid and Giza. Almost as big as that of his father, way bigger than that of his brother that preceded him, but still, not as complex as that of his father. Important to remember, the burial chamber, floor level. Modest use of granite. Then his son Menkaure follows, which builds the smallest pyramid at Giza. I think this succession of events is important to illustrate one thing. Khufu was an overachiever (lets put it like that). His pyramid is nothing like his father, or that of his first first (direct) successor. Or that of his second successor. Or that of his grandson. So going back to my initial point, it is (I think) important to remember the time span. It was mostly from father to son. And ONE dude has like the biggest grave of all time. Not just in his own time, but ALL TIME. Khufu's "grave", is one of the 7 wonders of the ancient world. So I think it's important to remember that, that we are talking about MASSIVE ego, completely unchecked. I wont go on, but there is more to it. And third. People keep asking the wrong questions, and they do have they answer right in front of them. So by this point, I think I have convinced you that they knew about counterweights and at least T shaped cranes. As shown in the drawing. So from my point of view, the question becomes, what kind of rope and timber can haul 1000 tones of stone? That is what I want to find out. Again, the Unfinished Obelisk would have weight more than that, but if they had the ropes and the timber required to raise it, then certainly not much else has to be explained. Although I would say this. People always ask about the ramp. "And would have been made of this and that?" "Should it be 10 degrees or is that too steep?". I find those questions to be ridiculous because again, people look in the wrong place for the wrong question. Not every block is 70 tones. In fact, limestone is lighter and easier to carry, than granite. So you only need to account for the big pieces of granite in the Great Pyramid. But again, The Great Pyramid is the only pyramid with a Grand Gallery. The only pyramid with chambers above the floor level. The only pyramid with large granite stones above ground level. But if you put all the data together, I think the Grand gallery IS _THE_ ramp. Well, one of them. There is probably another one just like it on the other side. Two platforms, with counterweights, suspended with ropes at the top. The holes in the margins of the grand gallery I think were places where to place the breaks while you slowly raise the granite blocks. The way it would have worked, and why THIS pyramid needed this complicated elevator system is because of the granite blocks used in the kings chamber that was like half way in the elevation of the pyramid. Pretty hard to raise that much weight. But anyway, I think that's why we have the ascending tunnel and the grand gallery at the same angle on inclination of 26 degrees I think it was. No need to ask about an outside ramp, because they would raise normal limestone exactly like the drawing shown at 1:30. But for granite... that's why they built the grand gallery. It was a pulley/elevator system. One platform goes up, one platform comes down. Imagine another ramp on the southern side. exactly like the grand gallery + ascending tunnel. Same degree. And like a pulley on top. A great big tree trunk, that was freely rolling, lets say. So it is conceivable that if they knew about the counterweight principle, they could make the system work. One elevator cabin at the top floor, the other one at the bottom and viceversa. Now, you would want a way to make sure you don't have accidents, and again, I think those holes in the grand gallery is where they installed breaks so that a platform can't move up or down. And that's that. Explained. And in this context, I find it ok to ask what sort of rope they used. What sort of timber they used. Methods, I don't find any of them to be alien made. Reasons, again, don't find any of them to be alien made. But rope and timber has to investigated. I talked extensively with chatgpt about this subject. Sometimes he's wrong. You correct him and he goes back on track. But in my research I only asked myself the 2 questions, what sort of rope they used, because no matter what you think, rope had to be used. And it had to resist those weights. And fine... hemp and flex rope. But that's not the whole story. If you only consider the stones at the pyramid, fine, it's only 70 tone block, easy. But 1000? That is steel cable area. Not rope area. The way they did they rope must have been... something amazing. Hemp and flak, but none the less amazing. And second the timber. Now, it's easy to say a T shaped crane. It's easy to imagine. But if there are some studies here and there about rope, there are even less about the study of timber. We often hear that cedar wood was most prized, but we don't know why. I for one want more research on it. Like what sort of tree trunk you would need as a roller at the Great Pyramid in order to be able to sustain that weight. What sort of timber can be used and in what configuration to make a simple T shaped crane. Now that I have actually looked into this, the questions I have left are only related to those 2, rope and timber. Everything else is ... weird, but not out of the realm of explaining.
@dropnoelfield295
@dropnoelfield295 Год назад
Your interpretation of Houdin's work is reasonable. Much food for thought, especially the void being "another" pulley chamber. Very interesting and informative, thanks mate 👍👍😁🤷‍♂️
@njm3211
@njm3211 Год назад
Incredibly informative. Your videos are an intellectual feast.
@MsMcKat-ub4sm
@MsMcKat-ub4sm Год назад
If I remember correctly the overhead scan that was done previous to Houdein's presenting his theory, showed internal anomalies that ran along the inside edges which corresponded with Houdien's theory. Yet I recall thinking there should be more ramp, your theory that the internal ramp started higher would conform with what I remember that overhead scan showing.
@HistoryforGRANITE
@HistoryforGRANITE Год назад
My first video talks about this a bit: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dM3kpOF8ews.html
@philmorton4590
@philmorton4590 Год назад
Why build a great step without a ladder? It was definitely a channel for pulleys, the void is obviously another such chamber. The internal spiral method has promise, but more likely it was in mirror image on both left and right sides for only the top half. This allows for 3 work crews, one left, one right, and one middle. This increase productivity by preventing blockages and traffic congestion. It also utilises the available personnel. The middle ramps became the galleries. And the side a way of count weights back and forth to leverage blocks into position. Furthermore internal ramps creates less waste and makes it safer for the workers, even cooling workers as the pass through shadows provided by such ramps and shafts. All of which can be back filled to prevent us seeing them, the outer limestone case added by a fourth crew for Further counter weights.
@CaptainDonut0
@CaptainDonut0 Год назад
Everything Ancient Egypt is my beginning for the love of History. Be it Antiquates, medieval or WW2, I love it all.
@Zodroo_Tint
@Zodroo_Tint Год назад
Your WW2 knowledge probably based on lies. :) Same with the medieval. This is just how the historical science works.
@CaptainDonut0
@CaptainDonut0 Год назад
@@Zodroo_Tint am from Lithuania, I know our medieval history and ww2 and even the era with many gods. My language is so ancient, I could cave complex philosophical debate with ancient Lithuanians' no problem. Lithuanian is the oldest Indo-European Language still in use and is now in use continuously with little change for 2123 years. The only ones still speaking are us Lithuanians and our little sister Latvia. Tho, Latvians see the language more evolved, we still can have a conversation in with our languages and understand. Buts it's a learning curve. I can tell you from our history that we were the biggest nation in Europe at one time, stretching from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea. And yes the ww2 didn't start in 1942 tho it did end in 1952, but that was just for Lithuanians. Sorry for ranting.
@ettepet9308
@ettepet9308 Год назад
Ha! Two of my very favorite Egypt theorists combine. Thanks for your added constructive musings. And thanks to those ancient Egyptians for constructing this colossal mystery. :)
@dutyrover946
@dutyrover946 Год назад
Ancient Egyptians found the pyramids they didn't build them. the pyramids and the sphynx have water erosion meaning they were there during a time of great flooding wich was around 12000-8000 BCE and the ancient Egyptians carved out an Egyptian head from a lions head. Nobody wants to hear this but it's true.
@catbritz9765
@catbritz9765 Месяц назад
What an amazing theory! I love that documentary with Jean-Pierre.
@Tr1Hard777
@Tr1Hard777 Год назад
This is actually a genius theory. The grand gallery might have been nothing but a channel to hold the counterweight and they could have had a ratchet and pully system. We for some reason give meaning to the grand gallery as a magical tomb or something.
@paulallen8109
@paulallen8109 Год назад
*Nobody* ever claimed the grand galley was a tomb. Because no sarcophagus or ornaments or anything remotely resembling a final resting place has ever been discovered there.
@kxkxkxkx
@kxkxkxkx Год назад
Plenty of people claimed it was the "entrance to the underworld" butt actually it's just a channel that was filled with water to float the blocks in ☝️
@Epiphany-818
@Epiphany-818 Год назад
​@@kxkxkxkx float... Float the STONE blocks which are denser than water.. UPHILL???
@SG-js2qn
@SG-js2qn Год назад
IMO, Houdin's idea of internal ramps is very sensible. It may not have been done exactly in the manner he tried to work out, but perhaps it was done for the upper portion.
@ezrarichardson279
@ezrarichardson279 Год назад
Yeah! Even if it’s not 100% accurate it’s the most accurate sounding thing I’ve found in a while!
@warrenroach3026
@warrenroach3026 Год назад
Absolutely, I agree it's the most logical sensible method I've seen .
@arnavverma3400
@arnavverma3400 Год назад
@@warrenroach3026 you are doomed!!! it was poured lol. can you answer why are these ramps are not found? watch the great pyramid k 2019 documentary by fehmi krasniqi, it makes much more sense
@Ericdw123
@Ericdw123 Год назад
@@arnavverma3400 k 2019 is a crappy documentary go melt some granite and pour it see how it ends up else go stand on the corner of the street with a sign and sell pencils out of a cup next to true earthers
@arnavverma3400
@arnavverma3400 Год назад
@@Ericdw123 then i guess you might have a better answer explaining how those granite artefacrs like vase or a petri dish was made.
@AnimeOtakuDrew
@AnimeOtakuDrew Год назад
Your idea that the internal ramp may have started at the staging area is a genius complement to Houdin's genius theory. I hope that someone brings this video to his attention; I would love to hear his thoughts on your ideas. By the way; any estimate on when you'll be doing the video about the pyramid portcullis systems which you mentioned several times in previous videos?
@AnimeOtakuDrew
@AnimeOtakuDrew Год назад
@Aqua Fyre The use of the word "internal" only refers to the location of the ramp used to move blocks up the structure. Internal simply means "located inside of," so an internal ramp is nothing more than a ramp located inside of the pyramid (as opposed to an external ramp, which would be a ramp located outside of the pyramid). The terminology offers no indication whether the pyramid was constructed from the inside out or the outside in. Considering the proposed ramp would have been located near the periphery rather than at the very edge, the casing stones and outermost blocks could have been placed first (and probably were). Just as the term "internal organs" is used to describe organs like the heart, lungs, liver, etc., which are fully contained inside the body while offering no description of what they do, how they evolved, or at what stage of fetal development the were formed, calling this an internal ramp is the appropriate term to use here.
@AnimeOtakuDrew
@AnimeOtakuDrew Год назад
@Aqua Fyre Okay, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with with referring to an internally located ramp for moving materials during construction as an "internal ramp." Unless I misread your initial response, it seemed as though your point was that calling the ramp this is inaccurate or leads to fallacious inferences. My response only points out that it is indeed the correct terminology and why that is so.
@geoffreykeane4072
@geoffreykeane4072 7 месяцев назад
I concur with the view on Sarah Parcak. She was a real darling of National Geographic about 10 years ago. I remember seeing one of her documentaries on something she had "discovered" from a satellite, and I was waiting for the bit where they check it out with a dig - but no such thing and the credits rolled. No problem with her identifying possible targets - but summarily declaring "discovery" before any site inspection is ridiculous.
@johnsolo123456
@johnsolo123456 Месяц назад
Shouldn’t she be laughed out oh the community? It’s clear her ego clouds her professionalism to the point of travesty.
@NoahSpurrier
@NoahSpurrier Год назад
Houdin is closer than anyone else has gotten.
@chrish4439
@chrish4439 Год назад
I think one of the main issues here is that everyone seems to think there has to be only ONE answer. I find it highly unlikely that all pryamids were built the same and that every part of the same pryamids were even all made the same way! I think at this point it's pretty obvious we know all the technologies, tools, and processes they used for mass construction. We just can't say for certain which were used exactly where and when cus that's almost impossible. But we know the how. We're basically just arguing semantics at this point....
@TomHand3
@TomHand3 Год назад
Great update! I am sold on Houdin’s original construction theory of the “Grand Gallery” as a shaft for counterweights and the spiral internal ramp. The evidence appears overwhelming. You have pointed out a couple very logical and important flaws. It does seem too complicated! Adding to the confusion is that Khufu appears to have changed the plans as construction was underway! Someday, after Hawas and his ilk are gone, the “Great Void” and “The Notch” will be thoroughly explored. Sometimes I wish Egypt would restore Khufu’s Pyramid to its original state, encased in smooth white stone!
@Hansen710
@Hansen710 Год назад
so how did they place the last rocks on top without any ramps on the outside.. please explain, because im not sold
@donnievance1942
@donnievance1942 Год назад
@@Hansen710 The problem of the last top blocks has bothered me as well. But here is a possible solution: Suppose that they created a platform near the top, in the form of a wooden collar that circled the pyramid. If they reduced the size of blocks in use, they could haul these blocks up the finished side of the pyramid using this platform. The collar platform could have an aperture penetrating its floor next to the stone pyramid side to pull the blocks through. There could be a reciprocal aperture on the opposite side of the platform so that they could run a cable for a counter weight sled. This cable would run over the unfinished top in the same manner as the proposed grand gallery sled, but in this case the whole apparatus would be entirely external. Wooden staircases running up the sides of the pyramid would give access to build the collar platform and serve as the means by which it would be dismantled after the construction was complete, and afterwards the staircases would be dismantled from the top down. A reduction in block size would be necessary to make this method practical, and I would be curious to know if the top blocks are smaller.
@leh3827
@leh3827 Год назад
I don't have the great patience required for this kind of work. I do however love the current state of investigative results. I am intrigued with history to the point of pain.
@mecandes09
@mecandes09 2 месяца назад
Very informative. I like the way you present the information and your theories. Bravo.
@trirycheman
@trirycheman Год назад
The thing I remember most about that first documentary, was there was external lighter "staining" on the pyramid that showed where the internal ramp would be. That stuck out the most to me, and you didn't mention that in this video, that I caught. Seemed pretty good evidence, was it ever looked into further?
@chloedeats1170
@chloedeats1170 Год назад
Yes I remember that how was that left out
@tristambre632
@tristambre632 Год назад
Matt from Ancient Architects presented Houdin's work on his channel a while ago, but you're presenting so much more from Jean-Pierre's background, which makes his works even more valuable than I thought
@charlestaylor3195
@charlestaylor3195 7 месяцев назад
From all I've seen Jean-Piere has the most compelling information I've seen.While it may not all be correct, it certainly should NOT be dismissed by any means. Great video.
@johngayder9249
@johngayder9249 Год назад
Houdin may eventually win the Triple Crown of Stupid-Crazy-Genius which all visionaries go through: “Houdin’s ideas are Stupid” “Look at that Houdin still persisting with his ideas - he must be Crazy!” And then, years later: “Houdin was a Genius!”
@paulallen8109
@paulallen8109 Год назад
Newsflash: 99% of them stay *stupid* and are forgotten. Some people have tried to prove the existence of the Loch Ness monster for almost 100 years and none of them ever proved sh*t.
@JunglingFist
@JunglingFist Год назад
Very interesting that there is still so much to learn about the Great Pyramid even though it is such a famous building
@chriskelly2939
@chriskelly2939 Год назад
My favorite part of the Khufu Reveled doc is when they finally access the notch, they didn’t bring a flashlight.
@-Gumbo
@-Gumbo Год назад
Thank you it actually annoyed me intensely, Bob is unbelievable. I would have taken a small inspection camera at the very least, a flashlight would have already been in my pocket. I wonder if Bob's hands were intentionally tied?
@lorimiller4301
@lorimiller4301 Год назад
Don't all cell phones have a flashlight app built in ?
@davidbowerman6433
@davidbowerman6433 10 месяцев назад
And the video examination confirms a lot. Now they have to accept the scans. And hopefully soon, open the corridor they found and explore further
@njmikeche5575
@njmikeche5575 Год назад
It's shocking to learn that most academics initially dismissed Houdin's ideas. The inset ramp is one of those things that you can tell is clearly, obviously correct as soon as you see it.
@caodesignworks2407
@caodesignworks2407 Год назад
The problem is that despite it being, to me, one of the most plausible theories, there's still not a great deal of supporting evidence. Hopefully, much like how plate tectonics was dismissed, they find the supporting evidence. Or really any concrete evidence
@MegasXaos
@MegasXaos Год назад
​@@caodesignworks2407 The lack of evidence is due to Zahi Hawass not allowing it to be collected. Imagine being asked to say the number of apples in the store, but not being allowed to enter the store or count the apples, or have someone else go count the apples, and if you do somehow manage a count; management will be the one to own it and "publish" it.
@TheR0m0
@TheR0m0 Год назад
internal ramps would be too steep for mechanical advantage.. 10° maximum. Another method was used and it's time we admit we have no idea.
@johnadams7402
@johnadams7402 Год назад
@@TheR0m0 He's theory states a ramp angle of 7 degrees. Which is the same angle of the lines visible on the upper portion.
@atlantic_love
@atlantic_love Год назад
@@caodesignworks2407 Maybe that's because you prefer it to be forever unknown? The Great Pyramids are one of the last unknowns. At some point humans are going to stop with being so fascinated with Earth :(
@oivinf
@oivinf Год назад
If the grand gallery was indeed used for a counter weight system, why do we not see anything like that in the Khafre Pyramid? It is for all intents and purposes the same scale as the Great Pyramid, and built within living memory of it, yet seems to have needed none of the elaborations suggested for the Great Pyramid..?
@HistoryforGRANITE
@HistoryforGRANITE Год назад
Khafre has no upper chambers or corridors, and thus didn't need to get the largest blocks up high.
@The.BansheeRose
@The.BansheeRose 5 месяцев назад
Beautifully explained, easy to understand and follow. Thank you for your time and efforts to create this video. Kudos
@TheGreatest1974
@TheGreatest1974 Год назад
The grand gallery must have had a construction purpose. As it cannot have been to relieve weight, as there should have been one on every side of the pyramid. Something existed in that space that moved large blocks up it onto the higher levels. Also the lack of any writings or drawings in the grand gallery (as elsewhere) points to a construction use. The drag marks on the side walls are the tell tale clues from ancient times.
@tedolphbundler724
@tedolphbundler724 Год назад
It is obvious that a counter weighted trolley with toothed cog wheels ran up and down the Grand Gallery. The counter weight ran in the trough in the bottom. Could have been used for transporting stone, or could have been a tuning device.
@medea27
@medea27 Год назад
Thank you, I've been saying the exact same thing for years! 👏 It infuriates me that so many Egyptologists have _no_ knowledge about engineering or scientific techniques, yet they will dismiss rational, logical & _demonstrable_ ideas presented by _professionals in that field..._ just to cling onto some preposterous romanticised story. Frankly, it's insulting to the Ancient Egyptians... they were _extremely_ sophisticated builders, engineers _and_ scientists, yet Hawas & his acolytes seem determined to treat them like heathen simpletons. They are the only archaeologists I'm aware of who don't like expert input from architects, civil engineers, physicists, etc... it's embarrassing really.
@tooterfireball4018
@tooterfireball4018 Год назад
It’s because ‘rational’ is inherently irrational because of the aspects of change in our lives, and since none of us exist in the same realities just similar ones we will forever burdened with ‘thinking’ we are correct, doesn’t matter how wrong we are, do we even remember how we got to where we are let alone ruins in the past left for millennium.
@jamescheddar4896
@jamescheddar4896 Год назад
because they want to check this big void for gold so they can say its empty before they open it up
@Guitar6ty
@Guitar6ty 19 дней назад
As Bulls were worshipped in ancient Egypt I wonder if they were used extensively for heavy hauling of stones rather than humans pulling them. In our recent history heavy draught horses were used for heavy work such as ploughing and pulling heavy wagons. Apis Bulls could have been trained from an early age to haul stones and building blocks. Humans will always find a way to get out of heavy work or make it easier to do.
@Jupper1958
@Jupper1958 Год назад
Congratulaions for this excellent update! One thing I was wondering about is why nobody refers today to the 1986 EDF Foundation study and their resulting microgravimetric map. Do you have more info on that study, about its merits and its faults? I know that J.P. Houdin theory was inspired by that map, but it is strange that nobody else is making use now of it or mentioning it other than in passing. Could it be another of Hawass's obstructions? Thank you again for all your good work!
@mnomadvfx
@mnomadvfx Год назад
"the 1986 EDF Foundation study and their resulting microgravimetric map" Exactly - that is the one thing this video missed. It perfectly explains both how Houdin began his internal ramp theory, and why he believes it starts as low as the base.
@HistoryforGRANITE
@HistoryforGRANITE Год назад
My first video talks about it a bit. The book "Imaging the Cheops Pyramid" by H.D. Bui gives that data a very close look from an expert. I think he's correct that there's not enough information from the microgravimetry to be confident in a specific internal design layout.
@JeanPierreHoudin
@JeanPierreHoudin Год назад
@@HistoryforGRANITE I would like to correct Mountain Nomad VFX assertion... I never started my internal ramp theory from the EDF Foundation microgravimetry diagram. I discovered it near 2 years after designing the first path of the IR. That is quite different from your sentence above... No offense...Just a precision that is worth remembering.
@HistoryforGRANITE
@HistoryforGRANITE Год назад
@@JeanPierreHoudin Thank you Jean-Pierre. I'm aware that your theory was not derived from the microgravimetry! I hope you enjoyed this video. I know we don't agree on everything, but I have a lot of respect for the work you have done and it deserves serious consideration.
@JeanPierreHoudin
@JeanPierreHoudin Год назад
@@HistoryforGRANITE We don't agree on everything...yes ! But just for now 😏 You need just a little more explanation to be convinced on all the parts you don't agree... Am I joking or not ? Up to you to choose. Don't forget that I've 2 other Memoirs in progress...Lots of more details coming... If you think that my first Memoir is worth reading and a hard work, don't expect less for the coming ones. I know this pyramid much much more than anyone else on Earth...Believe me ;-) Friendly regards Jean-Pierre
@masimak
@masimak Год назад
The absolute best content on RU-vid. Thank you for your work!
@leighz1962
@leighz1962 4 месяца назад
Loved hearing about this story before. It just seemed so logical even if flawed in his proposed design. The higher inner ramp idea is great big brain work. Props to you if that was yours.
@MJIZZEL
@MJIZZEL Год назад
I can't wait to hear your thoughts on the different pieces of sheet metal found in the great pyramid, at different times. Just read flinders petrie mentioning it and also the vice explosives exploration that turned up a piece of sheet metal near one of the so called air shafts. I believe it's in the London museum today.
@BGraves
@BGraves Год назад
Wat
@askmeaboutfreewill5791
@askmeaboutfreewill5791 Год назад
Yeah man, mind elaborating/sharing some reading material on this? I'm familiar with the two extremes of iron chisels found between cracks in the fill and Dunns hypothetical gold plating on the "air shafts", but this sheet metal shit sounds wild. What kind of metal was it? Good old copper, or some kind of nickel/iron compound? Something else?
@mnomadvfx
@mnomadvfx Год назад
I don't find the notion of anyone using explosives on these monuments to be worth listening to. Such destructive means are unforgivable in my opinion, and all their works are tainted by it. Heinrich Schliemann eat your heart out.
@seeekerman1342
@seeekerman1342 Год назад
HI. You did a Wonderful Perspective on Jean Pierre's Internal Ramp Theory and how the Grand Gallery could possibly have been used as a Counterweight system for those Huge Granite blocks. I've admired your work since the beginning and I told you to keep at it in our emails. You were exactly right in that Jean Pierre's work at the very least, should be noted for his efforts and keeping people thinking. I have followed his work near the beginning and he has some wonderful theories. As for you, "masked man", when are you going to take credit for your Efforts? Keep the vid's coming and I'm glad you found Ancient Architects, Mat to be a wonderful resource for past history as I recommended him to you;-) He's a wonderful guy🙂
@HistoryforGRANITE
@HistoryforGRANITE Год назад
I have a feeling some of my viewers will get to see me in person this year...
@seeekerman1342
@seeekerman1342 Год назад
@@HistoryforGRANITE Take The Credit! You Deserve it! Joe
@CharlieDraper
@CharlieDraper 3 месяца назад
I am really enjoying these videos. One comment I will make as a former "institutional Egyptologist" is that while certain individuals stand out, I don't think it's fair to tar all institutional scholars with the same brush. Specific examples are far more powerful than generalisations, and the picture is nuanced (much as not all independent scholars are ancient alien enthusiasts peddling stories about Atlantis).
@RK-ej1to
@RK-ej1to Год назад
They might make the design more complicated to facilitate less labor if it increased the speed in which they completed the project. Doesn’t matter how much labor you have available if an alternative method was faster then utilizing just brute force.
@CristalLewis-oe2lo
@CristalLewis-oe2lo Год назад
As a trained stone mason, when building a cathedral spire you use the spiral staircase not to move material due to the plane but to move people you use a crane to move the stone and the spire is built internally and externally then the space between is infilled this is the real reason for the spiral staircases.
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