Stephen Fry's Best Arguments Against Religion 

It's true, but he probably borrowed it from someone else

​@@briancox9357 Possibly, but an actual attribution would be more useful than merely casting doubt.

Ricky Gervais fails to realise that science owes its entire foundation to not just theism but to Christian theism. He stands on the shoulders of giants while attempting to kick the legs out from under them. He is a hypocrite.

​@@briancox9357 Untrue. Religion is science before your very eyes but you can't see it. The memes ingested by developing infants whilst their brains go through vulnerable formation stages - will return in exactly the same way. Only names change through the generations as they discover what is more effective. Reptilian stage Mammalian stage Executive Function stage Each violated mind, given preferential characteristics and those cursed with hate crimes. Promises of peace from ever being stressed in this life or the next. In return, is their obedient servitude without ever knowing it. Edward Bernays in the early decades of the 1900s easily got females to smoke cigarettes by calling them "Torches for Freedom". Masturbationalists for freedom. Wokeness for freedom. Submission for freedom. Pride Months of intense consolidation. Therefore, Holy Books like the European Human Rights Act - one law for the powerful and one law for you - will always be reassembled. And you will be forced to subsidize it; or imprisoned at best. Religion. Definately science at work.

But that is completely false. The library of Alexandria was destroyed and the textbooks which has followed has not been able to build the pyramids or make sense of things which seem to be known before. Neither the Holy Books or Science books remain the same, and neither should they if they were evolving and progressing. The Holy Books would not be and have not been completely different either, this is totally false. The morality taught in religious books today is virtually the same it was 4000 years ago with a few evolved or progressive ideas, as it should be. The same is the case with science books, as it should be. Ricky Gervais needs to update his knowledge of both science and scripture, for the only thing which seem to remain the same is his ignorance!

The argument is very weak. If there is no God, no creation, no purpose with life then of course bone cancer in children means nothing. Nothing means anything. Fry is (though he believes he is) not an atheist. He critizes organized religion. Not faith. Believing in God (whatever God is, we only have the word) is believing in life. In that life has value, meaning, importance. Atheism is nihilism. If there is nothing, then there is nothing. No love, no meaning, no good or bad and bone cancer obviously doesnt matter. Get it?

Here is an interesting take on that - since God created us with a completely free will, we have the ability to choose what we beleive. If we reject being with God as Stephan says then that is his choice, it would be terrible if God forced him to be there with him so God made another place where those who don't want to be with him will be able to do as they please ... some people call it hell but it's actually just a place where God is not which sounds kind of pleasing but where God is not means that you can do as you wish, meaning anything you want to do is acceptable you can be as bad as you want and we know that people can be quite bad. So Stephan and anyone else is totally free to choose that is one of the amazing things about freedom of choice it is even more free than the freedom of speech which is not really free.

​@@dennisash7221One little problem with that hypothesis; Not one single shred of evidence points in that direction. It's an idea in your head that you contemplate might be true, without any proof whatsoever.

@@stickyrubb So you don't beleive that we have free will ... Well I cannot agree with you on that one.

@@dennisash7221 No, I think he's trying to tell you that blaming the senseless suffering in the world that is beyond human control on our free will has no proof and is just an idea that the men who created your religion came up with

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​@@r0bw00d how do you know my name? Did we go to school together? Are you that giant dude that picked on me for being the smallest boy in class?

I thought he would answer "that is the work of the devil" or smth

@@youtubestudiosucks978 Look the guy up, you fool.

The answer to the question lies in the very basic concept of God's creation, he created all things for good, set it all in motion and has allowed us the freedom to choose and told mankind to look after the world. So when you try to blame God for what we screwed up that is a bit of a long shot.

"Atheism is a disease of the soul, before it becomes an error of understanding." Plato

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@@dennisash7221 "An atheist is a person that has no invisible means of support" Fulton Sheen

@@trollemctrollersen Zero objective evidence there is a soul, indeed, there is evidence against its existence which rather destroys your quote from Plato doesn't it...

Congratulations,you can count to 37.Thats a big achievement for you,i presume.Now try the other numbers :)

​@1966jo Butt hurt theist alert😂😂

Atheism and deism are being told with stories like denial is a fashion, they are trying to spread it, but it is empty and wrong. For billions of years, people have believed in the governorship of Allah. It is in human nature to believe, to pray, to do good, there is a feeling of doing good, it is Allah who created this, nothing changes with the denial of the person who denies, there is Allah, billions of people believe in prayer. and it is Allah who gives the answer. For example, if there is a drought or it does not rain, who can change this? Can a person make it rain? or if there is a flood, earthquake or fire, from whom do you ask for help? , we will die. On the day of judgement, we will be held accountable for what you have done. He who does good will be rewarded with heaven, he will be abundantly blessed, and he who disbelieves will remain in the fire of heaven. This is a very clear fact. Islam says that Allah exists and is one, and people flock to Islam and prefer Islam.

Confirmation Bias Hit you 37 Times. Congrats, you did Not get the Point of the Video at all.

You need to get out more often.

@@jake5811 kneeling on the floor and talking to imaginary friends is worse than liking someone who is actually real.

@@derpy9452 ----From what I have observed imaginary friends are the only kind of friends you have. So, don't knock it.

@@jake5811 making stuff up is a strong suit of theists, so I’m not surprised the only argument is to assume something because of projection, kinda weak man

@@derpy9452 ---The evidence for God's very real existence if virtually everywhere and the arguments for His existence are not only compelling but logically coherent and viable. Clearly this is a topic that is beyond your understanding and your comments are puerile, baseless, mindless, and totally lacking substance. In essence, you're an adolescent with the intellect of a child.

It's easy when you know that the god of Abraham is an amalgamation of ancient gods from a pantheum. The angry god is the desert mountain thunder god who was bloodthirsty in randomly killing people in flash floods. It was first followed by bandit groups. It's name is Yahweh. It was merged with other gods while the Jews were trying to create a national identity through an amalgamation of borrowed myths from other nations that were popular. The main one being El. This was a grandfatherly god of boons who especially cared for children. The nice elderly guy with a white beard who is kind to its followers. This is why the Hebrew god is bipolar. At one time the god of blood sacrifice and death and other times the one who cares for everyone and forgives people. Neither are real and the combination is especially unreal. Mostly because the ancient Jews got their butts kicked a lot and wanted people to take them seriously. Tall tales and borrowed stories to feel better about themselves and justify genocides that continues to this day. I'm not claiming them to be worse than anyone else. Or not worthy of being a people or to have an identity. I just mourn that this effort has caused so much death and suffering throughout history. What was once just people making stuff up to feel better about living has become excuses to end other people's lives. People should have grown up by now.

Because, mysterious ways and POOF! You’ll be in heaven, where everyone is always happy and worships god all day long. Ignore all the pointless horrors god inflicts on the world, drowning every human, including children, ordering wars based on territory and tribal loyalty which itemizes killing children except the pre-pubescent girls for, you know what. No sense on worrying, it’s all for their own good.

Presumably you don't wish to dig any deeper than Fry,. He has such a daft idea of religion he's bound to find it daft. I blame the Roman church for the nonsense they peddle. .

Religion will never blame itself. It will always shift blame for all the bad things that happen. Um, lets see how we can shift blame. I know. Lets make up a story that there is something else causing all the misery and pain. And lets call it, um, i know, The Devil.

@@peterjones6507Stephen Fry is right and knows much more than you do, I bet. All religion is daft and the moment you grow up from it (and you probably inherited it from your parents), your life becomes better.

No, it is very trivial, low level thinking.

@@JohnBorstlap You say that because you have no answer to him.

@@peterbunyan3924 No, the banality is glaringly obvious. His 'arguments' don't deserve serious opposition. Becasue then one would have to first explain context, and what is meant by the concept of 'God', and of 'good' and 'evil', and that would be not a religious topic but a philosophical one.

He literally talks about the philosophy of nature, good and evil and the unexplainable paradox that leads to the human creation of deities in his first point

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Great word🎉

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Chances are he's fully booked until after Christmas 2025.

Well, do THEY proselytize to YOU? If so, you'd just be returning the favor. 👍🏻😁

If you religious friends arnt open minded nuff to check out your argument then get some new friends. Christopher hitchens

I watched a documentary video 20 - 30 yrs ago, if I remember correctly is was called “god on the brain” and the basics that I remember from it is we all have things that make us happy and also things that make us unhappy. This was plotted by monitoring brain activity during conversations about various random subjects. In short after testing thousands of subjects science concluded that the same areas of the brain (areas related to pleasure/happiness etc.) lit up (became more active) when ever the subject talked or was engaged about their prefered preferences. The same areas of the brain lit up in the football fan when engaged on football as with the skateboarder engaged discussing/watching skateboarding, religious person talking/reading/viewing their chosen religion. They all gained happiness, pleasure, contentment out of their chosen subjects. Understanding this has allowed me to keep jehovah’s witnesses and mormons standing at the door for hours trying to convert me, as in my mind I am giving them the pulpit they crave to stand at, it makes them happy, and at the same time I am saving some other poor wretch from suffering that fate I am then subjected to. Levity aside take what makes you feel happiest, what makes you feel good about yourself, then think how you would feel to have that feeling taken away from you and that is what you are contemplating subjecting your religious friends to. Is that really helping them????

Interesting argument you have there. You’re wrong because I don’t believe you.

Not really, and as soon as someone starts to think about it, they almost immediately realize it doesn’t make sense and become, at the least, agnostic.

I was raised Mormon. When raised in it, many don't question. Mormonism teaches members to seek answers from scripture and words of "prophets", and not outside sources because all that is anti-mormon and they'll lead you astray. I left about a year ago, once I started to learn the truth and I was, still am, very upset that I was duped for so long. I'm nearly 39. Glad to be out now. All my of siblings have left as well, but not our parents. Fortunately, we all still have good relationships with one another, but for many, that's not the case. I've heard many stories of parents essentially cutting off their children if they leave the church. I'd call myself agnostic now, but my belief that there could be a god is about 5% at best.

I have posted elsewhere on this thread about you question. Hunt for a video called “god on the brain”. Basically it’s a documentary about a socio- scientific experiment which uses brain activity monitoring to show that we all have “happy places” in our brains. These “happy places” all take different stimuli to activate them. For a football fan, football switches them on rugby fan, rugby and so on. Some people’s pleasure receptors switch on with religion, most know the anti arguments, but believing in their chosen god/s takes them to their happy place. It has also been proven that the majority of people like to be told what to do (which is why we have governments). And religion does this to all followers. And if you do not believe people like to be told what to do go look in the mirror. And then into your kitchen cupboards, then see just how much overpriced shit tv advertising had made you buy. Go for a walk and look at all the sheeple walking by in the latest fashions. It’s also addictive.

@@michaeladams1523 Well done Michael, what do you think you replaced the mental stimulis with? What helped you break the circle?

Yeah grown adults still having imaginary friends in the year 2024 lol

Exactly! If this all loving God existed he would be looking after them! And look at the animal kingdom. I saw a video on RU-vid were a pack of hyenas ripped apart a rabbit before eating it alive! Where was God?

@@irishnz_9558 God would be looking after everyone if mankind did not reject Him and started to follow Satan instead. It's all told in Bible.

@@jounisuninenThat is a manmade book with a lot of stories, most of them meant symbolically and not literally. Symbolic truth can still be truth, however.

​@@jounisuninen bruh if true we didn't do anything to deserve this we never asked to be born and we weren't the ones who ate the forbidden fruit. So why that gotta mess things up for us? God or no God he's a sick being

@@JohnBorstlap That is a man made book inspired by God himself.

Conman is a liar

Donald Trump

Money is the only true god in terms of what people really believe in

Con men are prevalent,and every purchase has to take into account you could lose money

I will give you credit for a partial truth. There are many who have come up with a religious myth to explain the unknown or unexplored, however I think they do so at their own peril. Furthermore, it is not even remotely fair to only place such at the feet of the religious. Granted, if one could prove there is no God the only logical conclusion would be that the universe and the evolution of life MUST have somehow come about purely by material means, and such must have at the same time precisely followed the fine-tuned laws of physics and astrophysics to have success. But apart from explaining repeatable principles of physics and natural processes, as most of us agree is how we create many great modern conveniences, there is a tremendous amount in the universe for which an explanation of origin is completely beyond laboratory science. I applaud those that postulate theories for many to dream about proving, but it is amazing to me how the public will readily swallow some scientist's fancy-sounding theories as proven fact and not notice the ideas are never repeatable and have not been observed. It escapes many of us that some of these theories are perhaps emotional mechanisms themselves, albeit of a more complicated nature, but nonetheless meant to weave a story to explain the unknown. Consider living cells. With the most sophisticated microbiological science today we still have not come close to creating life no matter what the titles in the sensational articles say. Articles are written about science being on the cusp of creating life, but if you read the whole article, you will often only see breakthrough discoveries in microbiological protein creation or protein self-duplication. Those on the cutting edge of microbiology will admit we have capability to only make very rudimentary amino acids which only go a short way in building parts for living cells. Even creating these require much intelligence, skill and equipment. Not a strong case for life happening under a rock or near a volcano vent. In laboratories the amino acid chemical processes must be stopped and preserved at certain stages to prevent the chemical process from continuing on and destroying what has been made. In such articles the part about actually creating life is still admitted to be an as yet unrealized hope. Even though great strides are made in microbiology the discoveries about the complexity of the needed cell structures means the industries are actually finding themselves farther away from the target of building the basic components needed for a real living cell. Even if we could figure out one day how to build all the components for a “basic” cell, we then still have no understanding of how to make the cell alive. What’s life? It gets worse. How do we build in to a new cell the programming to make new cells before it dies? Inside each cell are all these little amazing machines with highways, factories and the programming to make the protein parts for a new cell and then the programming for how to assemble them all together in the right order. Folks, this is far more complex than any computer program we have ever seen. When have you seen a computer just decide to write its own software? Fry postulates religion as an evolution of the ignorant, and for some examples he may be right. But, isn't atheistic views toward the creation of the universe and evolution of life also a very devoted and narrow religion itself? Not only that, atheism seems to be completely closed to any view outside its own. To me, it seems folks who cancel views of those who disagree with them don’t really do their own case any favors. What does it hurt for a person to actually make a search for the one God to see if He left us a first-person written account that invites us to actually make an honest and reasonable examination of the physical world and see if what is discovered backs up what He claims? That should be pretty doable. There have been many who have done so and are surprised and changed by what they find.

I think I would rather sit down to a shared meal with you than with Mr Fry. But may be both either together or individually. Now I am getting a bit unreal! I could learn more from you.

Atheists have no scientific explanation for the life appearing without God, since abiogenesis and macro evolution are proven fictions by both theoretical and empirical science. So atheism has no science behind it, only the hate for not only God but for the very idea of God. Atheists claim that God (Lord Jesus) is not falsifiable, so you can't disprove him. Lord Jesus' existence however is falsifiable. If you can prove … 1. that life could have started by abiogenesis against the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, 2. that a Universal Common Ancestor has existed and has been able to produce Hox genes for constructing future generations, 3. that while being an asexual organism UCA had genetic variety for natural selection, 4. that species have produced new genera while they only have genes for their own species, 5. that empirical tests show that mutations generate new life forms and new body plans, 6. that abiotic matter has independently started to plan, organize and produce the immaterial genetic information needed for all living organisms, 7. that human DNA with its 3 billion nucleotides got arranged in exact order in a random process that destroys the DNA by a handful of errors, 8. that intelligence can appear from a non-intelligent source, 9. that matter and energy can appear from nothing. If these are proven, we can discuss the possibility of a world without Creator.

The problem is, believers rarely keep it to themselves.

The problem is, believers rarely keep it to themselves.

Agreed@@MarkoVukovic0

I don't know what dimension you're using to measure this matter of being "greater." It seems to me that you're only trading off two failed systems against each other. Irrational belief - or even worse, belief on faith - is demonstrably unsound. A billion individuals could have a billion different individual irrational beliefs, all mutually incoherent, and mutually irreconcilable too, since each person's belief is entirely reliant on that person's internal sense of conviction. This is merely stochastic noise. But on the upside, it does promote individual freedom. Religions, on the other hand, while equally irrational and based on faith claims, attempt at a kind of unification through authoritarianism. The upside here is the unification, though it comes at the heavy cost of personal autonomy. Many people engaged in the same project can do impressive things, far more so than a random collection of individuals with personal beliefs. But there's no assurance that those impressive things are in any sense good. They might be horrific.

If by greater you mean less harmful, I’d agree. But religion is just belief and most people believe religion. Certainly, I agree that groups of believers grow exponentially problematic.

I think you need to watch a lot more of Stephen, there are some videos where he really starts to let fly with his opinions, maybe let fly is a bit wild as Stephen is generally very much in control of himself. I watched one vid where he is in debate with an (Australian???) rabbi and lets him know in no uncertain terms how disgusted he is with the rabbi’s comments and thoughts. He is not always so gently spoken.

I'd like that too 😅

Thor is the only whorty god...get you hammered

Well said. But you forgot to include, undetectable and mysterious in action as to be in line with the natural universe. God is so undetectable that it makes even what it does no different than the natural universe. Oooh, mysterious.

@@josephbelisle5792When faced with the complete absence of even the tiniest shred of evidence for a god, Christians declare “divine hiddenness” yet another amazing “miracle”: there’s no excuse wild enough to be ignored in their desperation to “prove” their chosen “god’s” existence.

That’s. Why Sun worship is the most reasonable religion, at least the sun fucking exists…

There are some minor exceptions to the rule that all gods are invisible. Some dicktators that have been visible, like Kim-Il Sung in North Korea and Mao in China, are celebrated as gods by some, complete with stories about "miracles".

In contrary, history shows that every civilisation on the planet began with religion - and religion presupposes ideas about morality because civilisations need to have rules and values.

Why is that amazing?

theologians would told you with necessary existence uncause cause excuses. means their particular God is uncreated timeless ageless exist as always something like this.

And maybe there is a Flying Spaghetti Monster orbiting the Earth. We can't know. Criticising Richard Dawkins for being "dismissive" when not wasting time on discussing utter nonsense, is strange. He has written several fantastic books where he has refuted lots of religious nonsense. Criticising him for not repeating the same debates over and over again is strange.

@@Bob94390 Mr Dawkins has made a career out of the NO GOD DOGMA. What is missing is another dimension of existence.... Not a God....but a spiritual essence. It is interesting that he has not experienced a deeper connection, maybe the love within our soul.... So busy intellectualizing the physical realm.... and campaigning against religion. None of us have total knowledge and wisdom... Some of us have experienced the truly extraordinary....

The problem with Stephen Fry and Richard Dawkins is that they obviously have not really studied mathematics and natural sciences. If they did, they would have a good chance to find Lord Jesus.

@@Bob94390 Dawkins has written several books where atheists believe he has refuted lots of religious nonsense. Dawkins however has never presented scientific evidence to support his theory of slow gradual evolution which has no genetic mechanism that could do it. Dawkins lives in the world that existed 160 years ago when nobody knew of genes, thermodynamics or biological information.

​@@jounisuninenGlad you have found your answer. 8 years at at Church of England school turned me off the Bible. There are many paths to spiritual awakening

you tube AI stupid music the uploader let it play trying to get more views , I turn it off on my videos.

totally agree

The god that makes people suffer is Devil. Leave him behind, repent and seek Lord Jesus.

@@jounisuninen The devil is god? Is the devil more powerful than the god you believe in? It sounds a lot like cherry-picking. "everything bad is the devil, but everything good is god". That's the biggest load of bull I've ever heard

"what complete and utter rubbish." - Do you have evidence to support this claim? And don't try to keep as evidence the fact that today people don't live that long. Without mutations and modern genetic diseases people lived much longer 4500 years ago.

And a lack of deep understanding and empathy is the root cause of anarchy

Meaning what????? I do not believe in any superior being but I say goodby when leaving people and often say 'jesus wept' and 'for god's sake' it is simple habit

Personal experience means nothing, especially if delusional like NDEs or spiritual encounters.

@@user-asmcmq397 Does the best truth says little but speaks volumes ?

The wise man knows he knows nothing The fool judges a man on the number of words not their content

@@joshsheridan9511 So the wise man KNOWS or believes ? Who called him wise anyway ?

@@johnrWyatt knows and other wise men.

When God created evil you call him evil. When God wipes out evil (flooding the earth) you still call him evil. If it is never good enough for you atheists why should God help you in your life at all? Why should God fix anything if he is evil no matter what

@@ededwards7226 I didn’t ask him to fix anything for me. I don’t believe he exists and even if I did I wouldn’t follow him! No gods, no masters, my motto!!

@@markwoods4439 so lets say for a minute God exists and you ask him why would he allow suffering. I think what he would tell you is your your own master fix it yourself, You know whats best so you tell me. If your suffering than its no ones fault but your own. So stop saying religion is a problem, if God doesn't exist than people who don't believe in him are the cause of their own suffering, especially if they suffer regardless

@@ededwards7226 so you advocate that evolution is false because of god's influence but the things we face modern day are because of our doing? A baby who gets strangled by its mothers umbilical cord is also at fault for causing that to itself, or the mother? Which is it, if god is real, he is an evil monster, you look up to an omnipotent, senseless and malicious being. You say erradicating evil with a flood was good, but if the flood was real, he would have destroyed millions if not billions of wildlife, does that sound like erradicating evil to you?

@@ededwards72266th century mentality really doesn’t belong in the great 21st age of reasoning,rationality and hard evidence . Some deity that made things then goes into hiding ? Telling a child they will burn in a non existent hell fire if they are naughty naughty is child abuse at its finest. The earth is on the third arm of a spiral galaxy , one of infinite amounts. Not exactly centre of the known universe. Religion only exists these days because of peer to peer dogmatic indoctrination . The sooner it disappears the better for humans not being dragged back to medieval times. You don’t need it to be respectful. Treat those as you yourself would like to be treated. I can’t support a deity with such a narcissistic ego, that hides and wants people on their knees thanking it all their precious short lives. I pity people that waste their time doing this , having been brainwashed to believing there’s more after death.

*"It comes from the thought pattern of many atheists who think they are smart but in reality understand nothing."* We'll see about that. *"First of all, our personality, our consciousness is not our body, but it is our soul that is in our body."* This is factually incorrect. If we alter the brain in any way, our behaviors and personalities will change along with it. There is also no good evidence that a soul exists. In split-brain patients where the corpus callosum has been severed and the brain develops two separate individuals able to do different tasks, which of them gets/has the soul? *"This world is full of challenges. God doesn't want puppets, but he wants people to do good for themselves with their free will and to build a relationship with him."* Right.. "free will", yet if you don't do what your god says, he will send you down in his torture chamber so you can be tortured for eternity. We have as much free will as when a robber has a gun to your head and says "give me all your money". Also, if he wants a relationship with us, why is he hiding? Why doesn't he prove his existence objectively to everybody? Is he too weak to do it (all-powerful)? Is he not willing to do it (wants a relationship with us)? Does he not know how (all-knowing)? *"God is never evil or arbitrary, but He wants people to grow spiritually. Bad things like bone cancer can cause a change in consciousness in people. As a former unbeliever, I also had to learn this. And I am grateful to God for allowing me to learn my lesson. And if people stop their wickedness and disobedience and obey God, then all the misery in the world will end"* So he is "never evil", yet he set up a system of survival of the fittest where the only way for some animals to survive is to brutally kill and ingest other animals. What about when he created diseases and parasites whose only purpose is to dig into people's eyes and eat them from the inside out? What about when innocent children die of cancer? What about when natural disasters strike like earthquakes and tsunamis where hundreds of thousands of people can die? Don't tell me they "deserved it" and don't tell me god couldn't have prevented it.

"Bad things like bone cancer can cause a change in consciousness in people." There's the monstrous insanity of religion in a nutshell.

Not the over imaginative but the non imaginative, as imagination is fanciful and changing whereas religion is dogmatic.

@@donkink3114totally, it’s a failure of imagination to think a god proofed it all into existence.

@@ihatespam2 Don't seek for religions. Seek for Lord Jesus.

Did you forget what you were saying?

Paul, Stephen is either a eugenic elitist or a religious hypocrite. Ashkenazi heritage is statistically indicative of intelligence. But I want to let it slide since he eloquently makes points like those in the video, and that's good for us all.

What?

Liar or fool?

Advocating for atheism means advocating for monstrous world ruled by people like Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao Tsedong, Kim Jong Un etc. ... World ruled by Lord Jesus is the world of honesty, benevolence and love. Limitations of Naturalistic Science: Constant pursuit of knowledge, embracing ignorance, and excitement of discovery only to learn that all was misconception. Atheists use methodological naturalism for research. Methodological naturalism can hardly be called scientific because real science does not set preconditions. Naturalism sets the precondition ”there is no God”, which violates the principles of scientific work. The possibility of life appearing through a random process is figure one against a figure which contains 40 000 zeros. The mathematician Sir Fred Hoyle stated that this relation is enough to bury Darwin's theory of evolution. The real scientific conclusion here is of course that randomness can't produce DNA. That's the only possible choice when we think scientifically. Atheists however choose the most unlikely choices as long as they fit in their atheistic worldview. Is this scientific thinking? Of course not. It is based on prejudice, and prejudice is an anathema in science.

A rather trite statement that is as empty as the statement itself.

@@cupiddstunt Well that makes a lot of sense. Just kidding, you're obviously challenged.

@@ValiantGarton Hmmmmm so I am challenged????? Explain please, as that is yet another empty statement.

@@cupiddstunt It seems you have an addiction to the "trite" statement, "empty statement". Have you reread what you wrote? It makes no f'ken sense. My empty statement is an empty statement? That is a redundancy and you are an idiot. My statement may have been trite to you but it makes it no less true. Religious people are pathetic children looking for a protector to give them solace because of their fear of the unknown.

@@cupiddstunt We did challenge you once. It was called "school". You didn't rise up to it, though. :-)