She was essentially/figurativelly/literally the elder sister of the whole group and the one whom felt like she failed in keeping the family together, because they were a FAMILY...Lee was the second oldest(Trying to be everyones strength and willpower), Lisa the middle child(Whom felt betrayed and hurt and I honestly feel sorry for Lisa above all everyone), H(Despite his Hyperactivity, was feeling drained and wanted to do other stuff)was the second youngest and Claire(She was afraid which is why she panicked and jumped ship) was the youngest of them all.
@@PeterBerisha this is accurate as in personality wise but in reality lee and lisa are both older than faye and none of it was her fault even though she felt like it was
I love that Lee was just listening and observing, giving short statements but straight to the point.. Maybe that's why I find him attractive.. Him and Faye are my fave though I love this group since then and I am sooo happy they were able to put aside their issues and reunite for the best.❤❤❤
I'm so glad we got them back. They are such a close family these days. They bring me such joy with each new song. I feel like we've all grown up together. They are about the same age as me. All the more recent comments are talking like this was filmed yesterday but it was filmed in 2011. That's a whole nine years. They aren't like this anymore. They relaunched as a business where everyone is equal. While they are signed with BMG now the last album was self released on their own imprint. They are in their mid 40s now. Times have moved on.
It's clear how it started and how it ended. Claire, as the best vocalist, was given most of the lines. This led to Faye, Lisa and Lee feeling resentful towards Claire and Claire feeling excluded by Faye, Lisa and Lee. H just tagged along with Claire because he thought it would further his career. Hence the band was split in two.
They didn't answer to Faye's questions. Claire just cried and H said that he regretted it. No apologies, no explanations. It's not the point that Claire and H were tired and wanted to leave the group. The point is that it was very wrong of them to notify the rest of the group of their departure just 1 hour before their last show. Also, It was not a momentary decision. It was planned way before the last concert. After the concert, every staff and management was gone for the next project: H & Claire, and none was left for the rest 3. And how foolish were H and Claire that they actually believed that people would love them just after few weeks passed since their breakup. I personally think that the rest 3 might have had their own faults of the group's disharmony, but even if they were not friends but they were still colleagues and they deserved the truth.
They were still so young and were trying to figure themselves out way before they even knew what they wanted. Yes, I understand that I know nothing about our beloved quintuplets/siblings or what they went through their 5/6 years of being together so I can't add nor provide anything to this comment to say that I know what they went through, because I REALLY DON'T, so the only thing for me is to just back off and mind my own business, but I feel compelled to say that Claire and H( I will always Love them regardless of my civilian position in society) destroyed the group and I understand they wanted to try new things, but leaving everything behind and going off on their own without addressing important matters, such as communication and just putting their problems on the table for everyone to figure out and fix, or try to work around it was scary I guess, and it could be why H and Claire left, because they were afraid to see what comes next? I'm still heartbroken for Faye, Lee and Lisa and they deserved better.
Nah, Claire did what she had to do. She keeps saying to them "working with you was awful, we didnt speak to each other, i was miserable, i had to get out". And they dont respond to that at all. No regret, apology or explanation of how they treated her.
@@jamesmclellan2408 their album debuted at #58 on the charts and then fell off the charts after one week, it TANKED. The only reason they got a couple of top 10 singles was because there was enough hype around them (they released just a few months after leaving Steps) to score them a single week in the top 10 following months of pre-orders. Their entire act was a complete failure and based on short-lived hype
They were all incredibly mature, civil and brave for coming together to air things out after so long. Knowing what happened in the background and how they felt was both something you wanted to know and needed to know but also wished it wasn't true. For "H" to say and accept that his actions caused unnecessary grief and hindsight was error in judgement was incredible and gives renewed respect to hi
watching this now - with them releasing the Hard To Forget song and video for their 25th PLATINUM ANNIVERSEY IS SO BITTER SWEET - SO GLAD THEY ARE STILL HERE RELEVANT AND SMASHING IT
I just can't help but think that H is the one behind all of this and persuaded Claire to leave and now tries to wash his hands of it all. I truly think he was the instigator of the break up just by his demeanor and overall attitude. Too bad he wasn't replaced...
Knowing now that they are on tour again in 2022, makes me glad they sorted things out. But I didn't know about this split 10 years ago, I'm thinking this new tour is happening because the group aren't as well of as they should be for the success they had .
There's one thing missing from this documentary- Tim Byrne, the ex-manager. I know he and H are no longer together, but he hasn't shared his side of the story. For some reason, they didn't give him the chance to explain his actions, or at least apologize to the other members (Faye, Lee, Lisa) for his role in the split. His handling of the vocals issue, the secret relationship with H, and leaving with H & Claire. Faye's comment that songwriters were writing for the duo indicate that Byrne had been planning this for quite some time....
Maybe he's too ashamed to admit that he took advantage of Five Young People. Alot of Managers are really bad. Remember what happened with Louis Walsh (Girls Aloud). He made a pointed remark about their weight and he didn't even "Manage" them. Kimberley Walsh Managed them for Two Years before Hilary Shaw took over who also as you know managed Banarama. If TLC had a Manager like Hilary instead of that "Thief" Peri "Pebbles" Reid former Wife Of LA Reid that Cheryl Ann Tweedy worked with briefly on The X Factor US things woudl have worked out differently.
@@laminage I think this seems to be common to a lot of 90s/00s pop acts. Most of them became successful in their late teens/early twenties (some even younger, Billie Piper wasn't even 16 when her first single went to number one). You are still quite vulnerable at that age, but you see a lot of them now and how splitting up or being dropped affected them. And I'll be honest here, a lot of these so called managers - Tim being one, Nigel Martin Smith with Take That being another and Lou Pearlman being a whole other can of worms with Backstreet Boys, *NSYNC and O-Town, should've known better and quite patently demonstrated that they had no business managing these acts in the first place.
I wasn't aware of the secret relationship but that now clearly explains why Lee was never given much to sing in the early years as H wanted the spotlight on himself as much as possible, even though his talent level was questionable...
this is all history but this is a classic example of how inequality in any kind of group ultimately leads to conflict. the classic example is The Supremes (Diana Ross). Three ladies started singing and each had some lead songs - jump forward a couple of years and Diana Ross was pushed to the front leaving the other two ladies very hurt and dejected. Eventually the group split and Diana Ross did not talk to the other ladies for some years. There has been conflict in most bands. The key is to let everyone have their own significance within the group (sharing the leads) and also ensuring you have similar personalities. Once you mix personalities and levels of talent, you end up with friction.
Faye handled it amazing and kept H and Claire accountable but I feel Claire didn't take any responsibility or have any remorse just turned the tears on when Faye was only wanting a straightforward answer I thought was rude of Claire
I'll tell you this much: half the issues that festered amongst them for years were partly because of their manager Tim. After reading Claire's autobiography and seeing how other bands have been treated in the industry in the past, I'm no doubt he was definitely a contributor to the problems the band members had with one another. He sounds like a complete Svengali figure who was pulling their strings behind the scenes.
He really was. I'm sure Faye, Lisa & Lee knew their vocal capabilities compared to Claire, they don't want to be the leader but they're a vocal group, they just want to get fair share of line distribution but Tim Byrne couldn't understand it.
This is really quite awkward to watch. And also... I feel like I'm losing respect for H here, he seems to be just agreeing with the others and leaving Claire in the lurch, when it was both of them who decided to leave the way they did.. But in saying that, Claire, who has always been my favourite, does interrupt a lot. I've gotten lot more respect for Lee, who is quite calm..
@@olliestone5051 I agree with RainyDayWitch. It seems to me that H was letting Claire take all of the heat. As I watched this video, I wondered if this scene would have even been shot if H and Claire had been successful as a duo. They likely wouldn't give the other 3 the time of day for this talk, publicly made comments about how much they "love" their former singing partners, and never acknowledged that they basically shafted them. Faye comes across very well in this --- specifically voices her concerns, allows them to respond and never loses her cool. Lee also is very calm about the entire thing. Personally, I wouldn't have much dealing with Claire or H as I would never truly trust either one of them again.
That isn't fair on H at all. If he felt tonnes of regret about the split & Claire felt like she had 2 do it 4 herself so they're coming from 2 different perspectives. H has the right 2 regret as much as Claire has the right 2 stand by her decision
It sounded like H was immature and fame got to his head a lot and of course he was hyperactive as well. What he said to Lee about him not singing was bang out of order. I think H has calmed down a lot lately and realised what he was like.
DaNgEr88GiRL I think the whole situation had the biggest effect on Faye ❤️ breaks my hearts because I fee she’s the nicest and most genuine out of the group.
I was hoping that when Lisa asked who ended the group Steps, the answer would be their manager Tim Byrne but no it's not. It means both H and Claire are the main instruments for the split.
I used to like them equally before realizing their problems and the split. Now my only favorite is Faye, vocally, personally and in any other ways. I cried when Faye asked “ did you really hate us? “
putting this out there, Claire is indeed that voice that carried this group...it's always like this..it's mass appeal...but I'm glad they have matured from this and
the other girls were VERY catty towards Claire back then.....because she didn't drink and party, but stayed in at night....and very catty that Claire got more leads due to the better voice. I think I would've left as well!!!
I remember when I first watched this back in 2011 and I was shocked to learn the truth but in a way I'm actually glad to have learnt what actually happened that very night at the gold tour because when I was 9 years old I was just oblivious to what was going on but to find out not until the New Year from someone at my school that steps broke up it just broke my heart because back then steps was a huge part of my life and still is to this day. I totally understand Claire and H's reasons because I've been in similar situations where I've been isolated but I think the problem of the spilt was the lack of communication I think because Claire and H felt that they weren't close to Lee, Lisa or Faye at all and that's probably why there wasn't a lot of communication there because maybe they felt they couldn't tell them about how they were feeling because if you are feeling uncomfortable towards someone because they've may have treated you in a certain way or said something to you that makes you not want to be around them then I don't think personally I would want to go and talk to them about my problems even if I work with them but I do agree the situation could have been handled differently. But then again if this split didn't happen we wouldn't have had this documentary the number one Ultimate Collection album, the Amazing sold out ultimate tour, the light up the World album, The Christmas tour of 2012 and of course the 20th anniversary celebration last year. Everything happens for a reason so in a way I think it was destined that they split was meant to happen so then the band could get back together and move on to do bigger and better things together as a band and as friends and look at them now they're closer than ever. And I am so lucky to have been part of this journey since 1997 ever since I first saw 5678 on the music video channel and just following the journey as a steps fan and then eventually becoming a steps superfan due to my loyalty, dedication and standing by them for the last 21 years
Uniting, not siding with management and putting fame and fortune ASIDE makes a band a life long union with real life long relationships (not just a public working facade). Example of bands that united against management are: New Kids on the Block Back Street Boys NSync Hence till this day they remain as a band or life long friends.
I'm glad that they had this opportunity to just express their pains and grudges about what had happened ten years ago. It's healthy to have a confrontation. Currently, they are much healed and mature which makes me happy.
Lost a lot of respect for Claire here, diverting from answering the questions with her crocodile tears I just don't buy it. But also the fact she just didn't seem to recognise that the way in which she left was completely wrong. She might say they weren't close enough to have that talk but at the end of the day if there was a clause in their written group agreement then she's obliged to fulfill it just like we all are when you hand in your notice, regardless of how good/bad your rapport is with managers etc.
Let's face it Claire and H wanted to be soloists, they kept getting more and more lines but in the end they quit because they thought there was jealousy between them and the other members. It was a very selfish narcissistic situation. Did Claire not stop to think that Lisa, Lee and Faye wanted to be singers all their lives too, this was all about her and still most likely is. Even in this documentary you can see she is deluded thinking it wasn't her fault and that she was ganged up on.
I think she was. The others were jealous that as the superior vocalist she got all the main focus in a lot of their songs. If they were all such great singers, why didn't they have great successful careers after Steps? Simple - none of them except Claire was as good as they thought they were. It's the same with S Club 7, what exactly have they done since breaking up? A couple tried solo careers that went nowhere. They were a great as a team, no good alone
I thought Claire and H were really selfish to make that sudden decision without informing the other three especially right before a major show. It also really annoys me how Claire isn’t the least bit apologetic and thinks that what she’s done wasn’t wrong. At least H apologised and can admit it was a wrong decision. I feel Claire is very selfish and a bit of a prima-donna Diva. Faye handled this situation so well and it shows that she is more mature than Claire. I also feel that there’s a lot of tension between Lisa and Claire and I can kind of understand why. I don’t get why Lee didn’t hardly say anything.
Claire needed to apologise here. That's all that was needed. H apologised in his way. Claire needed to. I kbps this was ten years ago. It's extremely brave of Steps to do this. It's a great lesson about humility. Saying sorry doesn't cost anything.
Claire: If you look back at probably the issues that we had ten years ago and you think about them now, they are actually really silly Faye: What were the issues? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
started this year hearing there music was obbsed with them the videos the have done i agree everybody who are fans of them whatever yes they said that stuff was gabage still fans do love them
After hearing most of their songs two days ago, here's what I think about Steps now. I feel like Claire and H are hogging the spotlight almost all the time, which upsets me. But I'm glad that Faye and Lisa managed to get their fair share in singing their parts every now and then. As for Lee, they did him real shady by not letting have any solo parts at all, except for songs like 5678, Say You'll Be Mine, Neon Blue, and A Hundred Years of Winter.
Oh..my...I'm so sad about. my favourite groups, what's going on? I wish and pray that these groups be re-united again. or maybe i'm late about these video. go go go..STEPS, get together. for your FANS and ADMIRERs SAKE!! GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU (STEPS.)
It's made me think that there's a bit more anger there then I expected, still - Claire Sorry but what did Claire expect - Lee, Lisa and Faye to sweep what she and H did back in 2001 under the carpet
i wondered after all that have been said here in this table.. how did they end the conversation.. for us viewers.. its like everything is up in the air.. next thing we saw steps has a new album and tour around the country.. maybe all well annd ends well.. hope we also be part of that rresolution that you guys concocted before stepping into a tour
It seems odd to me that they can't get their heads around what happened. The way that it ended was how it was inevitably going to end. All bands split up and it's usually when things get bad. If things are not bad they don't split up. Five young people that didn't know each other beforehand thrown together into a high stress environment - of course tensions are going to arise. How could they not? When you have 5 singers and no musicians, everyone is competing to get the biggest singing spot. The best looking one with the best voice is always going to get more attention than the others.You could have predicted this happening on the day that they signed their contracts. Watch the David Essex films 'That'll be the Day' and 'Stardust' from 1973/4. This same scenario is played out exactly - 25 years before. Look at the story of the Bangles - same deal. The only difference is that in those cases there wasn't a dick head like 'H' involved.
I love Steps so much and I was gutted when I found out they split but this was like a few years after because I was only little when they split. And now watching all of these reunion interviews and them reflecting back on what happened on that night, it does make people realise that they shouldn't be so quick to judge. If Faye, Lisa and Lee all left, Claire and H would've felt the same way that they did back then. And yes, they had had enough and although H and Claire got together as a duet not long after, it's not like they formed a duet like a day after the split or anything. Faye has always exaggerated on why the band split the way they did and Lee and Lisa had her back on confronting Claire and H. It was their choice to leave, they didn't have to explain themselves. But, its 20 years into their music business now and they've reunited to get back out there and make themselves, their families and their fans proud. Let's just hope they don't keep bringing up the past all because of the way they left the group and their friends. It was probably just a spur of the moment, anyone else would've done the same. No disrespect to anyone. I am a huge Steps fan, I developed a passion for them because of my sister, just like I developed a passion for other bands like Westlife, S Club, Boyzone, A1, Backstreet Boys, McFly, Busted, etc. Sorry my comment is so long by the way LOL.
Claire was definitely not to be trusted back then. She must've felt she was more talented than the other girls but then again, things were different back then, they were younger and more naive. Business and fame can obviously result in popstars becoming selfish and there's always one or two people in a group who want to go on to Solo success, such as Diana Ross. She was a nightmare in The Supremes but look where it got her. Global fame and notoriety! I LOVE all of Steps. I think their music is pure "cheese" but it's bloody good cheese and they can sing. I suppose Claire has the "best" voice, but I adore Lisa. She seems like the nicest girl in the group next to Faye. Lee is adorable. What you see is what you get. H is sweet. Faye is so bubbly and Claire has real stage charisma. I love their music both old and new.
All 3 of those girls have great voices and each of them should have had a lead part in seperate songs to make it fair, H was a pain in the rear, i couldn't stand him, and Lee should have had more lead vocals because he had a better voice than H and that's the truth...i wouldn't trust H as far as i could throw him!
Where to watch the full video?.. I'm one of their biggest fan. Just want to know each of their side. It really breaks my heart after their split up.. :-(
for me i don't know if they really did settled everything. Claire and H haven't apologized yet for what they did... but it seems that everyone had moved on and they're all happy of what is happening to them now so i guess that's it then...
I agree. Now that the group has reunited, I wouldn't be surprised to see something similar happen again. While the others can sing, Claire's voice is the backbone to their music. If Claire had been successful on her own, I strongly suspect there would have been NO reunion of the original group. Steps would be a shell of itself without Claire. That being said, I've always liked Faye the most. She comes across as very professional, well grounded, and unafraid to say what she thinks (without being overbearing). This video is a prime example of that.
it's been a long time.. let them heal wounds.no need to explain,,just apologize. i really thought H and Claire get married.. but I think before they were offered a big money to do an album that's why they left the group..unfortunately..technology is so fast, casette tapes were replaced by cds. let's jsut be happy for them
also they did not think of it then because if they had and would have found 2 really good people they could have continued on like some other bands have done. also i feel that if Claire would have carried on to prevent disappointing them then she would have made herself really ill and also could have caused steps to instead of go out on a high start declining.
Im the biggest Fan of STEPS. i was a kid when im singing and dancing their music. i guess they have big misunderstanding all throughout their career. and they should know that being on a group will eventually end on separate ways. they should kept that in MIND. they realized they don't have a manager nor career after the final concert because, i guess they don't have money anymore and lifestyle is going down for them.
Clare and H were very naughty at the time and i bet on the very first day of Clare and H hosting SMTV Live in 2002 , Clare and H have to avoid bumping into Lisa Scott Lee in the London Studios
