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Hey Alex, my fellow big guy. Do you have advice for powerlifting for guys who also have injuries. I'm in my 30's, decided to lose weight during covid 495lbs to now 265lbs, still a little chubby but have been powerlifting for a little over a year. I herniated my L4/L5 when I was a diesel mechanic and that's why my weight blew up. I've tweaked my back 2 times in the past year lifting but I've made progress without injury for a few months now. I can 5x3 405lb DL and 5x3 455lb squat. PR deadlift is 425 because I'm afraid of hurting my back, but I want to be able to hit 500lbs. Is that possible? I'm a big guy, big boned, wrestler/football in HS. Genetically I think I could do it. But with 2 kids and a full time job I'm scared to push my lift and risk injuring myself and not being able to work. Help me out here brother
@@DadGetsFit Yes. His advice is going to be to take drugs. Take PED's. That's what his advice is gunna be. Its like you didn't even watch the video lol. There is a reason why he himself juices after all.
As a natty is not easy. I got years under the belt. I see kids and old, lifting for one year and have a body of a 3 to 5 year lifting. They look bigger and won't lie better cuts or ripped than me. You can't sustain a 6 abs all year round naturally. No water or food all year round (yeah, right). Only on competition can you do that for a limited time. That is how u can see hoes the fake natty are. And if ur not natty, I understand u want all eyes on you. But don't say ur natty when ur not. Including movie stars with rice and broccoli formula.
Steroids have been a game-changer in my fitness routine, providing the extra edge I needed to advance more rapidly. When used with careful planning and consideration for overall health, they can be a powerful tool for anyone serious about reaching their peak potential.
Test Enan is commonly used in hormone replacement therapy to address low testosterone levels, promoting muscle growth and improving overall well-being. Tren, on the other hand, greatly enhances muscle size and strength. Speeds up recovery from injuries as well.
Totally agree. Steroids helped me recover faster and maintain muscle mass, especially during intense training or after injury. It's amazing how they can support bone health as well, which is crucial for people with conditions like osteoporosis.
There’s no doubt to the benefits of steroids. Honestly, it has greatly impacted my life. It played a major role in achieving my desired physique. People should learn not to abuse these substances and act like they are all bad.
Hey everyone, I’m looking for reliable sources for both steroids and protein supplements. I know it’s crucial to be cautious with these, especially with steroids, so I want to make sure I’m getting them from trustworthy sources. For protein supplements, I’m also interested in recommendations for reputable brands. Any suggestions or advice on where to find safe and high quality options?
Bromley, I don't know if anyone has told you this yet, but whatever you're doing these days to take care of yourself is really working. You're looking sharper than ever and you can even see it down to how you're animating lately. I hope you're feeling as good as you look!
Really good video. I’ve been training for 44 years. I grew up under Muscle and Fitness, Joe Weider and Arnold/Zane etc.. I didn’t know that 30 sets per body part was bs. I do now. Experience is beyond important. So many younger lifters think because they have been working out for six months and watched a few videos that they are experts. Nobody has all the answers, and training is nuanced (even if we wish it wasn’t) With that said. For those who are natural, consider the following. 1. Have a plan that is based on sound principles. 2. Get educated. I love the 6-30 reps for hypertrophy idea. While I don’t know exactly the numbers, common sense tells that 30 reps is a ton of time w/o fatigue. 3. Eat well. No matter your goals, food matters. 4. Recovery enough. The idea isn’t to train so hard, so often that you’re constantly fatigued. Rather it’s a balance. 5. Stick with movements that promote growth. A squat - deadlift - row - press - hinge work. They always have and always will. 6. Go slow, train long. While I can’t say I’ve never gotten injured, most of my career I’ve learned that slow progressions work. 7. Lastly, ask for help. Avoid the “I know everything” mantra. Now, ask questions.
How important is protein in a diet? I understand it’s very important, but what’s your intake/day? Gram/pound ratio, I’m asking. I’m 220lbs, and 220 grams of protein @ about 16% bodyfat seems like an absurd amount of protein to continue to gain muscle tissue.
@@seanhokanson4115 obviiisly since you’re training you need protein to help the recovery process and to build muscle. There are general guidelines of 3/4 to a gram per pound of body weight. I think that while that may seem like a lot, it’s all part of your overall calorie consumption. I’d definitely spread it out over the course of a day. If you had 5-6 meals a day and snacks it isn’t as daunting. Stick with quality as well. Chicken - eggs - lean meats - a quality protein supplement if you need it. Finally, if you’re a little short, that won’t make a huge difference.
@@chattingwithshap8010 220 grams of protein spread over 6 meals would still be 36,6 grams per meal. Every day. These high numbers are indeed absurd and not sustainable for average people.
@@nothingEvil101 you’re right. But the person asking isn’t average and I didn’t say it needs to be 220. I said 3/4 to 1 gram. He is 220 and 16 percent body fat. That’s not even close to average. I didn’t want to write a super lengthy response. Getting enough protein is important for muscle growth and recovery, but it’s more of an Art than anything else. On those training days, especially harder ones it’s more necessary than on a day off or a recovery day or week. Plus, at 220 pounds getting 150 or so grams or so on certain days would be totally fine. Most people, even those who are intermediate lifters, and even some as advanced ones vary their calorie consumption regularly. But again, it’s important to see each person as unique, not cookie cutter.
Excellent! Thank you for shedding light on natty vs. not natty. I started weight training at 13. I’m 45 now and continue to learn, especially from your channel. Ive been natty my whole life. In my early to mid 30’s I was my strongest squatting 300x10 and benching 285 for a 1RM. Personally, I’ve trained all of the rep ranges through a 12-week periodization program. I’ve typically only have trained my body parts once a week. I think I’ll try training them twice a week with a little lower intensity and see if I can get back up to my old numbers, although, I don’t have much hope. I think the greatest takeaway is that there’s no magic program due to our bodies always trying to adapt.
A huge POINT to remember and understand this is that this 10-15 percent in strenght gain is when lifters stay in the same weight class if the gain muscle the Steroid related strenght gainn effect can be much higher.
Yeah, in reality it's more like you'll double your numbers quite literally if you're pushing natural vs enhanced. The most major component of steroids and the like is the increased lean mass your body will grow and is able to sustain, which leads to immense increase both in strength and in size as well.
Doubling your numbers is not accurate. However, your 10-15% statistic is. I used to compete at the international level and one of the russian coaches told me that he estimated about 15% strength increase from PEDs. That never left me because at that level, I was getting beat by about 10% and I was natty. I think the larger point is the recovery, the volume some of those guys can handle is insane and volume is the biggest driver of progress. You can still get stronger on PEDs with less work, but when you actually do more work, the results are astounding.
@@sandrost4243 So you mean to say that PED's will only increase your lift from say, 300 kilo deadlift to a 330 kilo deadlift? How do you think Hafthor deadlifsts 501 kilograms? I already explained, you can quite literally double your numbers from using PED's versus staying natural, because of the extra lean mass your body can hold when using PED's, which is really what makes the difference and allows top level strength athletes to perform superhuman feats of strength. PED's when in the same weight class probably doesn't make that much of a difference, however the point I make is, the true strength of these PED's is how it allows you to surpass the limits of what a human body is naturally able to do massively by increasing the lean mass which can be supported by your body due to the increased testosterone levels and also the growth hormone which allows muscles to grow far larger than they otherwise could. When you remain in the same weight class, you basically only use the PED's to 10% of their effect at best. What really makes the difference is how it allows people to become 180 kilograms while only at 10-15% body fat, carrying more than 150 kilograms of lean mass, which is absolutely ludicrous.
@@luka188 Okay I must have misunderstood your point, you are also including increased mass, i.e., putting on weight. I was indeed talking about staying in the same weight class and I was also talking about highly trained individuals, 15% is very accurate. But yes, if someone puts on 40 pounds of muscle, you could double your lifts. Apologies for misunderstanding you.
Personal anecdote: trained from 20-25. Went from 135 to 190 10-15% body fat. Best numbers were 315 bench, 425 squat, 505 deadlift, 225 overhead press. At 35, went on trt. Total test at 800. 315 total before trt. After one year went from 185 to 205 lbs. Bench 385, squat 485, deadlift 575, overhead press 265, strict curl 135. Fat went from 18% to 10%. This is just trt in normal range. The stuff works. Edited: total, not free test levels. 800 free would be nuts
Damn, 35 and taking TRT? I'm 39 and not taking trt. I'm squatting 425lb, deadlift 500lb, bench 325. But I been almost nonstop exercising since the military.
To answer your question at the end, a recent change that has worked well for me in terms of "shocking" myself out of plateaus in both size and strength is doing 6-8 week cycles of 5x20 on front squat, incline bench, RDL and OHP on their respective days, keeping the weight just light enough for about 1-2 RIR. I need a diaper change at the end of each workout. Let's just say that watching you squat 185x50 in a previous video not just how absurdly strong you are, Bromley, but also how mentally resilient you are.
This was an excellent video Bromley! Very detailed and well argued on all fronts. The prominence of drug use in gym culture you presented here is quite eye-opening , and really puts much of our current culture into context.
I stalled on Madcows 5x5 with only a 245 bench. One day I said screw this stupid math crap and just started working hard. In just 6 weeks I added 40lbs to my bench. I benched hard, heavy and frequently. It makes sense a lot of these programs were written by enhanced lifters because I didn’t make gains for shit on these “intermediate programs”.
I’ve never liked the idea of a 5x5 unless it’s for squat or deadlift. And with deadlifts I still prefer warming up and doing 3x3’s because deads are taxing. When I squat 5x5’s I usually lower the weight after my first set and continually lower it by small increments. Math crap will never get you stronger really. You have to use math crap to determine what kind of hard work you’re able to do. That means recording your lifts and tracking your strength.
I kinda like to warm up to a set of 3 reps for squat or deadlift, then do sets of hopefully 5 around a weight I should be able to do for 5 in my head and track my lifts for that day.
I was wondering when we were going to hear from a real authority on the effectiveness of anabolics! As a non-serious lifter who has never used PEDs, I'm also interested to hear your take on the 'human genetic limit' that you're 4 standard deviations away from.
@@AlexanderBromley And blasting gear for 20 years doesn't make you an authority on the subject. Especially when you still look like a dyel manlet. That would be the equivalent of a heroin addict thinking he's an expert on chemistry. Please stop pretending like you aren't completely biased on this subject
A lot of good info and perspective here. For me, through the past 20 years Ive found not training to failure, and rather training around RPE 7 for both size and strength is far far more effective. I personally cannot agree that natural lifters should train their sets to failure... whereas I believe enhanced, you can and should train to failure occassionally. If and when I go off the natty train, will be interesting to see how my training can change and be effective for gains
Thank you for being the voice of reason on these topics. So few people are honest about this while still bring reasonable about the huge progression natural lifters can have.
I have been a novice bb for years. I recently started oly lifts and focusing on strength and speed. I’m 40 tho and your “ big dreams and bad genes” comment explains my entire life. Love it!
All through my 20's I was an overtrain-and-crash natty lifter, because I did try to go to the gym super frequently and push myself hard and tried some dumb stuff. There were some results, but I've been able to dial that stuff back in the past few years and go down the route of calisthenics, bands work, cycling. I'm probably undertraining now - I might be hitting something like 1.5 times a week, with a lot of "just do a little warmup" sessions and then one bigger one - but it's in a relatively healthy place, where I'm not pummeling myself with fatigue and I can focus on other parts of life.
Maik Wiedenbach was an Olympic swimmer for Germany. He has some stories about dealers, when the wall came down, going from shoe boxes of D-bol to rooms filled with boxes of D-bol, T-bol, Test & others. There was so much that they couldn't possibly sell it ("I'll give you 50 instead of 10, for the same price, and I'll throw in 200 T-bols for nothing!"). Later, he was a bodybuilder & "fitness model", so he sure knows his PEDs. Even he says that "strength training has gone from a training culture to a drug culture".
I have no issue at all with people using. It’s when they try and fool People with “I am all natural” They still are insanely dedicated and it takes a huge amount of work. Just don’t try and say it’s natural. I hate that
If they want to lie and live in a fool’s paradise that’s fine too. But if they want to take peoples money and promise the same results as natty yeah then it’s straight up fraud
Dr. Mike's take on Greg Nuckols' research is actually a little off. He is comparing, for example, the strength of a 100KG natty lifter to that of a 100KG enhanced lifter and noting the difference between the two is somewhere around 10%. Now, that is not telling us what will happen to the strength levels of that 100KG natty guy after that guy himself goes on gear. PEDs not only help in adding mass and strength, they also help in the reduction of body fat. In other words, that 100KG natty guy could stay at 100KG with significant added strength and size. I would guess that he would make a lot more than ten percent gains.
If steroids dont give you a massive boost and help you push further than natural limits, why would you take them. They are a game changer,. Bodybuilders/ strongmen ect wouldnt take them otherwise
Survivorship bias. You are looking at the outliers who get massive gains and ignore the thousands of nobodies in commercial gyms who blend into the crowds... Most people on roids are under 200 pounds, you wouldn't even look twice.
@@amazin7006 yes some dont respond to it. But my point still stands. Just cos it dosnt work for some dosent change the fact that its a game changing drug. Theres a reason we call them enhanced. So if steroids dont turn you into a beast (if you respond to it cos for some reason i have to specify that cos you are all idiots) then why would body builders use them.
@@Ojthemighty Who the fuck said they don't make you bigger? You are responding to a comment nobody ever made in this entire video. Go rewatch from 10:50 and try again
People who take significant amounts of steroids to look good, their outside bodies might seem muscular and fit but that does not equate to health, health is mainly determined by how well your organs are functioning and the balancing of your blood chemicals. What heavy steroid users do is sacrifice the health of their organs for the aesthetics of their physique.
Strength day (legs) Technique day (full body) Power day (torso, either horizontal, or vertical, never both) Power day (legs, sometimes overhead included) Technique day (full body) Strength day (torso, again same plane) Rest (Saturday) It works for me. I basically am training the shoulder girdle and lower body daily either directly or inadvertently, esp since I picked up clubbells, my shoulders have never been happier being mobilized, even strengthened, daily. I train in waves like a restart week, a builder week, another builder week, a peak week, and grounding week, and then a deload week before I "restart,
If these drugs are so ineffective, why would anyone take them? It seems illogical that people risk their health for such a small effect. if you take this and apply it to a sport like Olympic weightlifting, you might notice that someone like Ilya was able to snatch 190, but after he tested positive, he only snatched 160. That’s a very significant difference. So I question the methodology being used when people claim that steroids have a small effect.
I feel like being natural is the most important part of my fitness journey. I mainly train to push my limits and see what my body can achieve just by eating and training. Plus being healthy is a really big bonus, so it's a win win situation :)
The last 3 chapters were very helpful for me, as I am still workshopping how exactly progressive overload works. And I love how at the very end of the video, they included the part where he reaches to rip the mic off and be like “finally I’m done with this crap.”😅I subscribed, keep it up!
I thought I had bad genetics and I just worked really really hard until I uploaded my dna to genome link. Turns out in every metric my genetics are amazing and I just didn’t eat enough for the first two years of my training lol
Great editing. Feels like a documentary. Reminds me of the ZT MPMD team up & Josh Brett Videos. The memes were fun too. I appreciated the audio clip from The Office
I started full body workout cycle with three days a week with every workout have the big three started to brine out and changed it to two days a week and so far it’s been working better the strength I started out with has improved and I keep getting stronger
Wish I saw content like this earlier on. I realize alot of advice on the internet is geared toward enhanced training. A huge thing I've learned that took my training to the next level is learning that 10-20 sets, got to hit a body part 2 times or more a week to grow, and hypertrophic ranges are relative. Once I understood this, I started training full body hard training 3 days a week. Did less work and got more gains. Since then I just progressively overload from there.
Discovered you a couple of weeks ago and you have become my favourite lifting channel. Impartial, evidence based approach, explained intelligently in an engaging way with clarity. Thank you for all you do.
Statement: "Tested powerlifters in the US don't cheat." Source: "Trust me bro, you can smell it in the air bro, please bro, they told me they are clean bro!"
Americans always first to claim natty, hold all the records in powerlifting then complain about competing Vs countries without testing in the IPF, really gets the noggin joggin doesn't it..
@@SUPER8ALTERN8 It's literally just cold war era propaganda. US at the time was trying to besmirch the soviet union as much as possible, so they convinced the public that americans are proud and noble and natty whilst the dirty soviets were all drug cheats.
awesome vid. i clicked on it because i work in substance use and we have clients that use PEDs and although I have done a little powerlifting myself I didn't really know anything about them. this covered a lot, thankyou.
Im 35, I was natty going on about 2 years, didn't see much gains nor a lot of strength buildup (and this was going to the gym 4 to 5 times a week). Decided to jump into small dosages of test and an estrogen blocker, and I have to say, my pumps jumped up like no other. It was like the missing piece to a puzzle. Not encouraging supplement use, but I'm pretty sure it wayy easier for younger people to stay natty.
@@HerbanMagi Go to T test and if you score low then you will get permission to legally buy it. IF you have normal or higher than normal T... Well... You can always go to weightloss journey to artificially drop your T levels to the bottom.
Another factor is if your goal isnt entirely hypertrophy. If you're training for cardio, seperate it by at least 6 hours as the research shows that it's more optimal for improvements by doing this. Cardio doesn't kill gains (unless you're starving) just don't think both won't affect the other.
The things that got my natty gains moving many years ago was moving to short full-bodied workouts of 5-8 exercises twice a week and these exercises could be different. The other major difference was cycling my training intensity. So many guys train flat out all the time and it doesn't work for nattys. The book Brawn, opened my eyes to these ideas and got me quite far before I decided to dabble in the dark side but I still found I needed the cycling intensity with short abbreviated workouts. Although fluff work ie throw in some light curls etc for high reps actually worked. In a natty state it would be a waste of time and I would be better just using my energy to hit heavy compound exercises like bb rows and they would do more for arms than a couple of pump sets of curls would.
As a natural training tactics matter so much more. Most people jump on gear because they simply don’t know how to get past the plateaus. It seems like you really learned how to train first before dabbling.
@robertquinlan8063 bru, most don't even have a basic strength level before starting gear. Most commercial gyms you rarely see someone squatting or benching 2 plates aside drug free even after a reasonable amount of time training. That shows you they don't know how to train. The recommended Drug free standards to reach or get close to is 3 plates on the bench, 4 on the Squat, 5 on deads. I have noticed some guys can reach the deadlift mark but not the Squat and vice versa, I think it's a genetic thing. I think if you can get within 10% of those marks, you're doing well and probably stand out as one of the strongest in most commercial gyms. If you walked into a powerlifting gym you'd probably be humbled quickly though.
@@dansmith9724 yes for sure. But if they want to look aesthetic faster they jump on and don’t care about strength. Though I think naturally you do eventually have to become stronger for more gains.
Natural, do full body 2 or 3x a week, mostly 2. It's been incredibly hard for me to recover and make progress because I work as a climber for a tree service M-F, and I'm toasted from work on the weekdays, leg and arm inflammation, fatigued back, etc
Ayeee, I'm a climber too (a beginner that probably doesn't climb as often but still). Recently started a 5/3/1 program and probably have to cut out so much accessory work because I can never seem to eat enough between that and climbing, dragging brush and carrying logs all day. I need to start working on my cardio again too because it's starting to get harder lol
That is WAAY too much, imho. Unless you train with low intensity? I say this only because it was the same for me, i was overtraining for the first 15-20 years of my fitness journey. Sometimes less is more and we need to use our discipline to stay OUT of the gym and use our time and resources for smart recovery instead. Maybe try hitting the muscles once per week but with higher intensity and low volume for a little while and see if the results get better?
I love this video. I have been working out for a while and only have gotten really serious about it in the last few months. I have already plateaued on my squats, although my bench and deadlift are still going up. I have gone to different forums and asked different people what I could do to make my squat go up, and I've been getting an alarming amount of people telling me to "jump on gear, bro." I'm only 5'7" and have been told by some coaches who casually watch me as I work out at my college Athletic Center that I'm "built for running," which I agree. Putting on any muscle takes a lot of work and food, but I've always had great endurance when doing cardio. Those gym bros who tell me to jump on gear are astonished when I tell them I don't want to. It's not because I'm taking the "higher path in life" or anything. When I get older, I probably will go on TRT, but I don't see the point right now. I suspect my body won't react well to it, and I don't want to risk destroying my body's hormones just to up some numbers on a lift. As I said, it's terrifying that many guys think gear is a super serum that makes anyone into Arnold or Ronnie-level freaks of nature. As Tom Platz once said, "Steroids don't turn Volkswagens into Ferraris".
For natty lifter intensity is most important factor, everything else is secondary. Intensity + calories will get you gains. Try to have spotter and do somewhere around 5 reps per set in bench & take it to failure. Last rep of last set is good to be forced with assistant. This is what have worked for me. I have trained 5 years mostly calisthenics & noticed everytime my intensity drops i platoon.
I'm a 185lb natty whos been training for a bit over a year and is obsessed with watching 100s of hours of videos on strength and muscle gain. I train very hard 2-3 hours a day (think I tore my bicep though), eat more than enough, but my gains/and muscle/weight gain have slowed to a crawl. I know I'll continue to progress very slowly for the next however many years it just kinda sucks knowing I could skip yearrssss of training hoping on
@@WH-sz3bh I wishhh. paid out of pocket for a physical therapist and looked into mri/ultrasounds but they're too expensive for me without insurance let alone surgery... Just gotta deal with it now. Lost significant size in my left arm trying to baby it the past couple months
@@shycreation9418 Look into getting medicaid. Once you're on it you can get the surgery. I had it last year and it can save your arm. I think it's worth going into debt for. Your window for doing the surgery isn't that big. You can do it later, but it just gets harder due to scarring and tissue change.
Mark Rippetoe focus on movement patters, rather than muscle group or belly, I found it working quite good. I am bigger and stronger than I ever was. I don't use his programing to the point, but I use that concept of focusing on movement patterns. Highly possible it be anecdotal, but it worked well with me.
I love steroids. I started using in my 20's. Now @ 43 I do trt, (not through a doc),. My wife loves steroids too. She loves the fact I have the sex drive of an 18 year old at 43. I plan on being "on" the rest of my life. Whether you choose to train natural or use PED's genetics still play a role. To each his or her own
@nukesploder you mean guys like yourself that call juicers "beta males" because you're natty and too scared to go on gear so in order to feel good about yourself you put steroid users down
Maybe some are, but the last USAPL meet I was at was disproportionately made up of underweight teenagers. The 70 year old refs were admonishing lifters for swearing and using smelling salts and they specifically outlawed back slaps.
The thing that sticks out to me the most in the online community is that people have super low expectations of natty physiques and anyone who achieves a high level automatically gets accusations.
I think its a reaction the over prevalence of fake nattys, We've gone too far now and think that any high level physique is not naturally obtainable when the truth is that that the top 0.1 percent can achieve that 28 FFMI, what I look for in determining who is fake or not has to do with timescale, an ELITE natural takes decades to reach that point when you have young lifters reaching 28FFMi in 4 years by the time they are 21 its extremely unlikely they are lifetime natty, but freaks DO exist.
Thanks for the video. Getting closer to 45th birthday I'd say that 2 times per week per muscle group training frequency is sort of overrated at least for me as a recreational lifter. Tight triceps and rear delts make squats really funny with barbell rolling up and down between high and low bar positions. So I stick to the bro split these days it at least gives 3-4 days for recovery per muscle group.
Fitness is all about drugs and genetics. The concept of hard work is a cope and only gets you so far. You won’t be competitive in any capacity if you’re not optimized in one or both categories
The natty or not discourse is exhausting and in most cases pointless. My rule of thumb is if someone is trying to sell you something and using their physique as marketing, just assume they are using PEDs. Good lifting advice is like good science, repeated by multiple reputable sources, independently verifiable and doesn't claim to be generalizable to every case.
Funny AND informative, the best kind of video. Structured very well and a great listen to boot. I'm still on my restarted journey after many years away from the gym for various (and lazy) reasons. So much harder with age, warmups and more gentle progression are keys for me now to ensure I don't overdo it to the point where I'm still crazy sore 3 days later. Ego checks are certainly more important now and I'm hoping to make real, structured progress. Your channel, RP, Nippard, have all been fantastic resources towards that goal.
My cousin did rad 140 and put on 15lbs of lean muscle in 4 months when before he didnt grow. Don't tell me tren and stronger roids can't build like crazy.
Ive trained both way for decades. I was a powerhouse for 15 years , worked out and ate clean, no gear, no nothing. I peeksed for quite sometime before j even comsidered adding anything, and when i did , i grew again and my age didnt hold me back at all. Both ways have merit , take hard ass work and time, if your a grown man, have put your years of training in, did your reseach, make your choices, because they are yours, but euther way get your ass in the gym!
So odd I’m the exact middle. I’m just a guy that works out. I like adding weight to the bar, I like looking better and I like being more athletic and healthy. I like training hard but have no specific discipline I’m targeting. Tbh I just enjoy the process and I love staying a noble natty.
I think if you aren't winning in local, even state contests, naturally, you don't have enough to win anything significant like WSM, IPF World's, or Mr.Olympia
I think the worst thing internet drug culture has done is made everyone more interested in drugs than they are training. I am one such person, to be honest. I don’t use PEDs but I love reading about drugs more than I do training, although that may be because I’ve already read so much that I find more to be a distraction, whereas drugs still hold a cool mystique. However, I wish I didn’t find the topic so interesting to be frank.
The way chemicals effect our body and mind is truly fascinating. To think... there is a world overflowing with drugs"/substances" , each with their own structure, and effect upon one's psyche. The important thing is to be educated and well informed. They could be used as tools, to aid/guide, as in medicinal/spiritual use.
In literally one night I have become totally down with this channel. There are things to hear that maybe won't be said correctly in other places that will be said correctly here so that it clicks and It was very helpful. I subbed and im going to be watching all of your stuff over the next week while i work..love the material, very insightful, and even a heavily studied bro can learn something new here!
The people who act like steroids aren't that big a deal are just trying to cope. Steroids are awesome, and anyone telling you otherwise is just a sham. Remember that, kids.
Maybe for some people. Tell that to the zit-ridden 19 year olds with average level natty physiques who thought it would be cool to go on cycle because they heard about it in TikTok. The people who get the most out of PEDs are the same people who get the most out of natural training. Those looking for short cuts are unlikely to find them simply because they're taking drugs and ignoring the littany of other factors that give you success in the gym.
@@DCJayhawk57 it’s true that many people with the best physique on gear had very good physiques natty, but there are definitely some hyper responders who blew up once they used gear
If you already build muscle and strength easily naturally then yes OR If you're old, then hell yeah medically dosed or prescribed anabolic steroids help.
I once competed in a powerlifting meet (USAPL) where I was the weakest in the masters division. As I left, someone asked what if they wanted to test me. I laughed, because nobody could look at my numbers and think I was using. That said, the guy who won our division did get tested and failed. Dummy.
When I use to workout when I was 15yo I was maxing out leg orders and benching 250 all natural. I haven’t lifted since but I just started playing hockey again at 33yo after a 15 year hiatus and playing in the MHL so I need to start lifting again. From my research it’s not worth the health issues that comes with taking any bs especially in a sport where your heart rate is over 160 on the regular for almost an hour sometimes several times a day.
I think people place not enough emphasis on childhood development. It can be just as important as genetics when it comes to adult success in these sports
