bit.ly/xfuElb - Steve Elkington and Mike Maves discuss Ben Hogan's Five Lessons The Modern Fundamentals of Golf. This is part one of a video series that continues at
i agree with Hawkwatch, what is overlooked generally when people are talking about hogans grip is how Hogan really described the left hand grip. from 5L - THE SHAFT IS PRESSED UP UNDER THE MUSCULAR PAD AT THE INSIDE HEEL OF THE PALM. pg 20. its not resting in or on, is UNDER.
@flowerdrop1 Thats a hoot. If you dont believe that the footwork and the pivot run the show which is what The Move was all about then I dont know what to say. Ive told people. Ive shown people and when they get it they improve. Im not saying that you cant play creditable golf hanging left and taking pork chop divots. You can! But there are limitations like with anything else.
Well, 5 Lessons was dictated to a writer and illustrations were mostly accurate except for the bound, rigid elbows. Hogan later said that was wrong. His arms were relaxed more like the illustrations in his earlier book, Power Golf. Now this is what really helps: The Boys are correct about the palm flab underneath and not much in the fingers. I think Hogan thought that was in the fingers, but it's not. You see, it's about whipping the blade like landing an aircraft, strike side of ball with 1 to 5 % downward blow and then flatten out on the airfield for 6 inches and back up again. It must be done at incredible speed with precision to get consistent direction and pro-distance. Hogan found the best grip to deliver the wrist and arm whip!
Roy Rubin- I find it hard to believe that a perfectionist like Hogan, would let something so obviously "wrong" slip by him and let it go to print. On the other hand, Hogan was known to withhold information and sometimes state false facts about his swing to mislead competitors. 5 Lessons came out after he was done with competition golf so there should have been no reason for him to misrepresent anything anymore. I would think. As a pilot , I must say you totally lost me with the landing airplane analogy..lol
Mike and Steve, one thing you don't show here is the part where Hogan balances the club under the butt pad and hooks the left index finger around the grip. He then completes the grip by wrapping the rest of the fingers and placing the thumb. How does this relate to what you show here? Hawkwatch
There is much in this video that is untrue. Hogan didn't grip the club like they show in the left hand. He held it under his pisiform bone, then lay it hooked onto his index finger as comfortably as possible whilst keeping the face square. From there, you just close your hand.
@MrLocacat I stopped wearing a glove because I always blew out the thumbs and wore out the heel pad area. I also got sick of people saying that it was an indication that something was wrong with my grip and trying to get me to fix things that I did not believe were broken.
@Farsigh thanks man, I get the right hand, its just the left is so different to what the majority of pro's would teach, that being the club in the fingers of the left hand, as opposed to what Mike & Elk are saying re what Mr Hogan did, which was across the left palm.
This is true it is against what is taught today. However, if you fight a hook this type of grip can be just the cure. This type of grip is more for the better player who has a proper delivery but can get stuck from time to time. With the club more in the palm it forces the hands to minimize rotation and just move the club up and down as they are supposed to. While working with Haney Tiger moved the club more into his palm to help eliminate his big miss. He would get stuck inside and either block it way right or flip it over trying to save it with his hands. That would sometimes turn into a hook. Haney talks about how much Tiger feared that left shot. Having the club in more in the palm facilitated the full release cut or power fade he was so good at hitting during that time. This grip also helped bring on the driver stinger.
There is much in this video that is untrue. Hogan didn't grip the club like that in the left hand. He held it under his pisiform bone, then lay it hooked onto his index finger. From there, you just close your hand.