actually it’s pretty smart that they are not shipping chargers in iphone boxes because 1. they can get more money 2. the next time you buy a phone you won’t need to throw away the charger from the box (u already have one) which reduces ewaste
Also Steve Jobs himself just admitted right there that Mac is a PC (Personal Computer). Because it is despite the god like delusion they love to spin up around it.
Bestow5000 well tbh instead of arguing with each other about if apple is making the right moral decisions or not, how bout we just move on and enjoy what we own. Steve’s dead and Tim is in charge and he is minting money so if he doesn’t care, why do we?
@@Silver_x86 Tim actually came at Apple in 1998, after their bad period. It's the Apple IIgs and Steve Wozniak's team that held Apple strong till the 90s. Also, the fact that Apple sold many Macs to schools
If you look really carefully, you’ll actually see that Tim Cook is wearing an early prototype of the AirPods. That’s why he never heard a word Steve said.
If all cellphones cost 1000 USD it would not be so popular....Jobs was a seller I have a great phone almost half of the price of an Iphone and I was an iphone user let me tell you
@@rubenrodriguez5020 i don't think your half priced phone has the same camera feature as an 1000usd iPhone. end of story. You pay 80% more premium for 20% better, that is ALWAYS the rule of top product in every single product category.
This isn't true. There were Macs and Powermacs, iPod Shuffle and iPod Video when Steve was alive and in-charge. He would say just anything to sell Apple products, and his main market was people who needed to use such devices without much knowledge. His idea was to turn technology devices into fashion-gear like sneakers or watches.
@@mikeclark7532 The first iPhone had a 2MP camera with no video-recording, at a time when entry-level, bar phones had video-recording capabilities. "We don't ship junk." End of story. ;) #SweetLittleLies
@@baileycrawly He is good salesman but if to look more closely at Apple products today then it is true that not everything seem to be priced to be competitive really. 1. Mac Pro - good price as long as you do not invest in the cheapest edition. In case of the cheapest one easy to find out that PC competition for same price could be easily a better option especially considering Apple's release schedule of their products (see Mac Pro 2013 as an example but also even iMacs really have this issue from time to time). 2. Mac Mini - good and fun computer but tbh if you do not need that performance of SSD (and let us face it - most people don't) then Intel NUC + SATA SSD drive that will do as good costs easily less than 50% of Mac's price. And btw you get replacing components in case of failure is also cheaper (not like disk drive soldered into board). 3. Apple Watch - fun product but let's face it that currently in era of mobiles (such as iPhone btw) the most common usage for such devices is activity tracking which you can do again with device for half if this price. Rest of what Apple Watch provides is definitely fun to have and use but then it s nothing that people definitely need. 4. Some accessories. Not just some display stand but but even i.e. Mac keyboards. Compared to i.e. Bluetooth Designer by MS slightly better really (if at all) but at least 100% more expensive. 5. Also btw prices for those modern top tier iPhones are questionable really. Fun devices? Yes. Any game changing either to customers or other companies? Most certainly not. With devices such as iPhone SE being actually properly priced for that they deliver by comparison to competition those top tiers are simply way overpriced.
BULLSHIT! Steve's basic laptops in the early 1990s where over £3500 with a 3GB hard drive and 32MB of RAM. That's £6000+ in todays price. His anniversary computer in 1998 was £6000 upwards. You never had it so good with todays Apple and its prices. I know, I've lived through all of these decades!!!!! And the quality is far supper now than in the 1980s, 90s or early 2000's. My gosh! Please speak from experience!
they could have been not looking the same every year, because apple would bring true innovations on the table. And I mean something real, not a new variant of black.
Honestly we can't even imagine. I really think he would've continued to innovate and move things forward in a way that we haven't today. Apple is a $2 trillion company now, but I think that valuation hides the fact that they really haven't changed much on the product side since Steve's passing.
I just think that steve jobs would try to make a phone with no more selfie camera. Putting the selfie camera under the screen. And improve it to mske it perfect
I’m the lucky owner of an iPhone 11 Pro Max . It’s simply the best phone I’ve ever had . Light and sleek , but functional and reliable . It was advertised as the strongest touchscreen ever built . I’ve broken every screen on every iPhone I’ve ever owned . But yet her is the 11 as new and intact as the day I bought it . No scratch’s no fractures . Still perfect. I spend hrs with my phone it has my thoughts my dreams and my memories. All tucked away safely in a digital safe . It’s my most valued possession . Steve truly did achieve his goal . Apple is part of my life and a member of my family . He has touched us all with what he did . A genius to me is not defined by high IQ , it’s by what they do . Steve Jobs truly was a genius.
@@Revelator2025Ironic. Talking about taking the “L”, it’s evident that you have no clue on the events which occurred between electrical engineer Wozniak and Jobs.
+ScopedPewPew A battery is a consummable, No comapany can make a battery that woný wear out. But if you can invent one you will be the richest person in the history of mankind!
I think Steve Jobs did a good job of leaving behind his influence. Kinda like what Disney did. The company is a bit more generic and a streamlined business now, but the elements that made the products "magic" are still there.
@@darkwoodmovies Maybe 10 years ago when movies were what they sold to the public, but now? No. It's really weird how much worse they got in the last 6-8 years though, like walt has not been with the company for a long time, and they somehow had this golden period back in the 90's and yet they never recovered until frozen helped them but that was it. Pixar was there sure but they also fell by the wayside with subpar movies and now it's the same junk that disney produces.
@@E620SE Literally the first laptop in a decade that Apple's made with good value in mind. I remember in college buying a Dell that was complete trash and kept breaking down every month. It was sleek and pretty but who cares if all your components are junk? Bought a cheaper MacBook base model that even had a GPU and still works to this day. I've dropped it a dozen times and even coded an app on it and run tons of compiles. Solid components and engineering means you can own and use a laptop for 10 years without issues. I can't say the same for even current Macs as I've seen countless in my old job overheat or broken key switches. The Air is the first Mac in a long time I can recommend to everyone. Not much is gonna go wrong when there's no fan and moving parts with a more traditional keyboard. Even the SSD issue seems overblown and mostly due to Rosetta. My M1 writes about 30GB per day and I'm a pretty hard user. I just make sure any app that's emulated is not running in the background when not in use.
To be fair, they're not. For example, XDR display is near-reference quality at $6,000, while other slightly better reference monitors are $10k+ USD. Same goes for the MacBook Air, you're not gonna find Apple's quality hardware on any other $899 Windows Laptop or Chromebook today. The base model iPad at $340 is the best affordable tablet today. Sure, some products like the MBP 16 and iPad Pro are relatively very expensive, but they also happen to be Class-leading with no other better alternatives in that price point. Tim Cook is doing a good job, he's not Jobs but he knows exactly what he's doing.
@@mini9503 But they are not expensive. They are aimed at professionals and the professional market. A maxed out MacBook Pro is £5500 for video editing - cheap when our RED cameras are £50,000 each its lens or £100,000 upwards for our Phantom cameras. They are pro grade products that are also sold to the mainstream market and that's what some people don't understand.
have you seen the storage specs apple offers now? hideously small and you have to pay ridiculous amounts more to upgrade to a decent amount@@aaabbb-py5xd
cough cough professional items cough cough RED and blackmagic also do this cough cough bugdet does not matter for professionls cough cough and you are not the intended demographic for the pro display xdr, mac pro and its accesories cough fucking cough
@Tong Zou they do actually, and professioanls either buy this with their own mony or the companies budget. thats just how the world works there, like RED MINIMAGS etc..
Cant even imagine what the latest iphone would have looked like if steve jobs was alive, there would have been true innovation,instead of a new gold color as a feature
PS: It would be exactly the same. Very little change inside Apple since Steve Jobs’ death. People who were working with Steve Jobs, almost all of them are still working there.
@@utubekullanicisi that was the beauty of Steve...he alone made the changes....the people who worked with him were just followers..now they dont have a leader with a vision like steve
@@ajanmathewphilip3109 That's what people don't get. There are talented engineers everywhere, but without vision, it's chaos. This reminds me of MCU vs DCEU. Both studios had money and gifted graphics people, but only Marvel had Feige.
@@asherujudo7383 there was nothing new or innovative about the iPhone, iPod or Mac. We can use all the colorful language we want to describe his "visions" , but at the end of the day he was a great marketer. And I don't know about you, but I don't look up to great marketers.
@@Aitcheoz The iPod changed the way people listen to music and moved society from cassettes to digital music; the Mac changed the way people thought about computers. He and Bill Gates have equal credit for taking what was essentially workplace tech and expanding its applications to insane levels. As for the iPhone... if you don't think the iphone changed anything then there's really no point in having this conversation. It literally set the blueprint for modern mobile computing. That was Steve's true gift, not technical wizardry, but the ability to apply technology in ways no one ever imagined and in turn, inspire newer more practical innovations. It's like the Internet, it was designed for researchers to share work, but now look how big it's gotten and how many innovative ways it is applied in our lives. You call it marketing, but really it is ingenuity. The first tools were just sharp rocks and dry sticks until early man decided to turn them into knives and kindling.
Steve Jobs *makes history with the iMac, iPod, iPhone and making the first successful pushes in many major innovations to push the industry standards forward* Tim Cook: We removed the charger to make our product more environmentally friendly by including a cable that doesn’t work with prior charging bricks we have shipped!
“Don’t allow stripped down lousy products” no human would have had personal computer back in 2000s if the price had been £1000 for typing word documents. Microsoft is the only reason people had knowledge. If it was apple most people wouldn’t even be able to afford any tech.
Every company has its own vision. Just because some people need cheap, lousy devices to get familiar with technology doesn’t mean we all have to. Apple made quality products for people who demand perfection and stability and aesthetics and dedication. Was Microsoft’s vision successful? Yes. Is it still relevant in this day and age? I don’t think so.
My first Mac in 2001 was $4000 and I was a student. Many "word processors" were well over $1000 and were essentially small computers attached to a typewriter....wtf are you talking about?
@Carlos Polanco I could afford multiple I just dont need one. They are shit. That is why people who know anything don't buy them and tards with money to burn do. Macs are made to gain money from people who have no clue about computers. That is why owning a mac is a joke. Iphone? Sure that is a totally fine choice but macs are absolute shit. You run Macintosh? Lol. You want software you get windows or linux not some filthy normie shit who couldn't build a computer. You use a mac then you are a joke. You can a build pc far more expensive if that is what you want.
He is right. Back in 2008, I was looking for a laptop with a discrete GPU, 8600mGT was the option there, and apple was the most affordable and the best looking option in that category. That day gone, till now, I have not purchased a non-apple laptop. That laptop is slow by today's standards, but still runs just as well it did when I bought it (13 years later).
Totally agree. I got my first Mac in 2007 because I no longer stand the poor quality of MS Windows. In the beginning I thought switching platform would be a little scary, as I was then doing my bachelor's degree at that time and worked at the same time. Finding spare time to learn new OS would've been tough, but the experience with Mac was a breeze. And then, the more I used it the more I loved it. The very first time I booted it I opened my mouth, that's how impressed I was.
@@tombjornebark Just to make things perfectly clear, you would rather spend $999 on a stand that doesn't allow any movement of the display than on some deskmount stand at similar/ lower price which will have the ability for you to adjust where the monitor sits?
Ah yes, the MacBook Air(introduced by Steve Jobs btw) cost $1,800. As much as I have loved using my 2015 edition, the first MacBook Air wasn't very practical, I read somewhere that it had hard drives similar to the ones found on the iPod so that it could be as thin as it was and a lack of ports which other laptops had at the time. Also you needed to pay $1000 to upgrade to SSD storage. This was at a time when thin notebooks weren't very common so they were expensive, but it wasn't a laptop that was worth the price(at least at the time). Today, the MacBook Air(in the USA) costs $999. And its well worth the price because of the M1 chip.
That's Tim Cook realizing Apple could be a 3 trillion dollar company instead of a 500B company because the competition is so far behind that people are willing to pay almost twice as much for a phone not running Android.
To be fair, it’s not junk. It’s actually a very good stand and some very good wheels. That said, they’re still overpriced, and the mere idea itself is ridiculous.
Akos Solymosi, what Steve Jobs said is true. If he's still alive today, Apple products will not be too expensive. Bear in mind, he is passionate and committed to Apple Inc. Which USA corporate CEO can take yearly salary of US$1?
To people pointing out to Tim Cook, remember, the Apple Silicon Mac's were done completely under his leadership. It is truly the biggest thing in tech since the iPhone. The Apple Watch has proven it's worth over the period of time. Apple's engineering team has some champions in Audio hardware as well (purely with respect to computational Audio, spatial audio and sound quality).
Steve Jobs hired Johny Srouji and set up the Apple Silicon team. He thought that in order to make great software you need to make your own hardware. He had the goal to design their chips in-house and managed to transition both the iPhone and the iPad to Apple Silicon before he died. The credit I would give Cook is that he at least didn't cancel Steve Jobs initiative. My guess it that their whole product line-up might already be Apple Silicon by now without change in leadership but that is my speculation.
Lars Andersen you’re responding to an out of date opinion. Apple 3 years ago was definitely teetering on the edge of questionable decisions, but that’s changed drastically. If you look at Steve’s old interviews where he talks about the future, so much of what he says is directly seen in apples lineup today. They are truly making the best again, at insanely affordable prices for consumers and now they are actually cheaper than their competitors in this space. (iPad pro for $799, iPhone 11 for $699) They are very much following his vision as best they can in recent years again.
@Bestow5000Because that thing is not meant for everyone. Anyone who will buy the Pro Display XDR likely already has a monitor stand. Also, that thing is in the "Pro World" most of the products in that world are extremely overpriced, like the red dsmc2 handle. It costs $950. Point is, yes they have some crazy stuff, like the map pro wheels but their regular consumer product is finally fulfilling Steve Job's dream.
@@Danker19991 There is a difference in providing 3 versions of the same product than shipping out one product. It used to be iPhone 4 Only now we have iPhone 11, iPhone 11 Pro, iPhone 11 Pro Max. WTF is that shit. Same with all the other products.
Yeah man, there's no more revolutionary products nowadays after his gone. Except for improved computing speed, changed mechanical design, better display... and some tweak here and there.... no more music players that CHANGED the world.
This is why I waited for Apple to release a smart watch. They don’t shipped junk! I know I get a quality product with Apple no matter what it is. Looking forward for the iGlasses! All my electronics are Apple. The best in the industry. Just picked up a new Iwatch series 3 for $129 at Walmart during Black Friday. Great price for a great product.
@@Lucrativecris Ever realise that not all people use computers to game? I love my MacBook, I use it for development and it's by far the best laptop I've ever used. I don't game on computers, so Mac is perfect for me.
The back fell off of my Apple Watch. Replaced under warranty. Same again. Replaced under warranty and sold unopened on eBay. The watch is glued together, that’s cheap and nasty.
Apple is overpriced if they were more competitive with their hardware too the actual cost (like most Windows PC's see Zenbook or HP Specter or Microsoft Surface to the Macbook Pro & the Microsoft Surface Pro Tablet v the Apple iPad Pro as just two examples!) I would have no real beef with Apple! Next big thing from Apple the iRock for just $9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 and Apple will gurantee you it is not only Hacker and Virus proof but update brick proof and you can use it for self defense! Comes in Granite, Marble, Onyx or fake Rose Gold! ;P
No it's about value for money which which Apple has never giving with it's cost to hardware ratio! I do not dispute that Apple use to give value in terms of Software & Security to price although the former is not really true any more with the likes of Final Cut 10! Apple still puts DDR3 in it's top Macs when I can go out and buy a Windows PC with DDR4 and better overall specs and still come out cheaper! I hate when people say Apple's Mac OS is optimised all that means is that Apple is unable and/or unwilling to allow it on non Apple Hardware, Windows 10 is optimised for Windows Surface devices people have never had a problem but Microsoft still allows it to work with almost any device dispite is configuration! BTW Mac v Surface PC/Ultrabook or iPad v Surface Tablet. MS devices cost about the same as the Apple but you get much better hardware for the value!
@@Yzyenthusiast I will give Apple that. Faster chipset and flagship camera features at a mid range price tops. I guess for Apple, it's like you gotta give up on design and battery to get flagship processing at a lower price. Seems fair enough
This answer from Steve is one reason why his Apple brand is so strong today. Of course, there are always over priced lemons that are sold occasionally, but that is the same from all technology companies.
It's *because* of Steve that Apple still has it's momentum. I highly doubt it would have ever taken off if Tim instead started it lol. I'd loved iPhones until iPhone 6 but after Steve passed away, Apple has only went ahead with "reactive" changes and nothing innovative to have an "industry-first" change except for removing headphone jacks and chargers and boosting CPU and GPU clocks by adding on-chip AI and naming it "Bionic". There's a reason it's not able to pull *new* customers into it's ecosystem anymore.
It's more then a good experience to have worked with Steve Jobs excellent programms like Quarck X Press, Macwrite, Photoshop, Pagemaker, Illustrator and King. Those are excellent, thanks to Steve. Kind regards.
My iPhone 5c phone which I use indoor to browse internet still works better & reliably than all the android phones that I have bought since. No wonder why the Apple world is winning.
Every time I look at the crappy 2016 MBP I realize how important Steve jobs was to Apple! apple seriously starting to neglect creative professional with their computers product line!
Tong Zou That’s the problem - people in one industry telling others what ‘professionals’ want. The goal with USB-C is to declutter and amplify usage. Do you own a 2016/2017 MacBook Pro? I do. Are you a creative professional? I am. I had a 2013 MacBook Pro for 4 years and as I’m not a photographer / videographer I didn’t use the SD card slot once in 4 years. Nor the display ports. Not even the 2nd USB most of the time to be honest so why would I be mad at losing those ports? A lot of the time people moan that they want it all and tend to negate the benefits outside of their box. As a consumer you have every right to an opinion, but the goal was to have 4 multi-function ports to connect peripherals that suit your particular profession instead of just chucking everything on there whilst being able to utilise ports that have superior data throughput and charging in any port. MagSafe was cool, but who buys a £2000+ laptop and leaves it in a compromising position? Should Apple also include a guide detailing how not to be a fool? I’ve travelled all over the world with my laptops and phones and I don’t break them. The benefits outweigh the setbacks IMO - I’m a music producer and all I need is one dongle that gives me HDMI, 2xUSB-3 for midi controllers, Thunderbolt 2 for an Apollo interface, and USB-C for charging, all through 1 port. As for power - I can run projects with 30+ tracks, multiple instances of Serum, Battery, Sylenth, Massive - you name it, and I’ve yet to experience any dropouts in the Kaby Lake 15” MacBook Pro (which is a quad core, not sure what you meant there). Each to their own, but don’t project your own peeves as peeves of every creative profession because that’s not the case at all.
Tong Zou and perhaps they don’t use the display ports? Everyone cried when Apple removed the Ethernet port, but who uses that when we have gigabit wireless lines now? Same goes for the disc drive. All you need is one multi adapter and you’re set, and in buying an adapter you also have the benefits of USB-C for use now and with your future devices.
You can get an ethernet to usb-c adapter for £4 that clips onto the cable permanently for those probably not so common situations. Problem solved. Now go buy a Macbook ;)
Every time you upgrade to a newer version of the operating system, we silently degrade the performance of your older iPhone and make it slower and slower to the point where it becomes unusable eventually and you are forced to buy the latest iPhone... but we don't ship junk. We only convert it to junk using our software.
