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He has already repented and confessed his sin. Remember when we repent and turn back to Gad HE FORGIVES. Remember the Prodigal son? Remember David and Bathsheba? We are all capable of falling.
u don't think she really didn't know or suspect since the get go OR within 5 years just know...but because of his "fame" at the pulpit she had to endure quiet humilation or for the "sake" of his income/job, she said nary a word?? Tis still very sad for her.
Sorry, but its not only a world of hurt. It is sin and 5 years too long. And in no ways a good example for Jesus and the Christian World. I am sad, because it seems to be normal in these last times. Our preacher in Germany did the same. He divorced and married the new divorced woman. And many many are irritated.
@@MS-kp3wn We are living during the apostasy. These things are going to get worse. Your pastor has disqualified himself from the pastorate. If he continues in this capacity he is in further defiance of God.
Are we looking at this biblically? What if we judged David, Abraham, Jacob, Esau the same? Should we stop reading Psalms and Proverbs because the writers fell from grace? The enemy here is Satan. We should be humbled that we haven’t given into sexual temptation by the enemy instead of shooting the wounded? How do we restore brothers and sisters in the faith? I understand that church discipline needs to happen here and it is a process to restore someone, but to cast out those who have sinned and not care for the fold shows the world that we are above sin, feel it can’t happen to us, and have no use for anyone who messes up.
“For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?”
Why should you care about his wife? Steve certainly did not. She was his covenant partner and he carried little for her. By the way, is he now properly designated a covenant breaker? Romans 1:31
@@johnnilan8240I’m genuinely concerned for you reading this response 😢 I can’t imagine how broken up inside I’d have to be to say something so cold, so cruel but I have said very mean things online too. I pray for Holy Spirit to break your heart with need for sorrowful repentance the way He broke mine back when I used to find empty satisfaction in picking on others online, trolling and flame war mongering as a teenager on social media. I was so lonely so I craved any interaction. Only Jesus could reach me. You gotta be set free, brother - the bible says “Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear” That’s Ephesians 4:29 I don’t want you to suffer any more or be hurtful because you are unhealed. I pray that the Lord will show you what true empathy and compassion is. That preachers wife and family does deserve prayers. The young lady involved too. We should all be praying for each other.
Can you look lustfully for five years at the same willing young woman and eventualy not act at all? Well, that will make Lawson a super willed man worthy of praise instead of a disgraceful one.
married woman? well maybe that's why it's already adultery. but we should know the principle Jesus is saying cause if one can commit adultery by looking, how can one not commit fornication at the heart? @@saintlunaticv3602
Proverbs 24:16-18 New King James Version 16 For a righteous man may fall seven times And rise again, But the wicked shall fall by calamity. 17 Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, And do not let your heart be glad when he stumbles; 18 Lest the Lord see it, and [a]it displease Him, And He turn away His wrath from him.
It's not the fact that he was away a lot or that he wasn't accountable to a church. It is a question of lack of respect, seriousness, fidelity and decency.
Your two points on Ravi are correct. Ravi was not tethered to a local church body. Lawson was tethered to a local church body and seeing how this played out,he was held accountable by a local body of Elders.
Ya, so much for the “hiccup” …the one “slip up”. A hiccup isn’t premeditated. The level of sneaking around for 5 years is absolutely disgusting. He was one of my favourite pastors. Nothing shocks me anymore but oh so disappointing.
@@Sherlock245 the Bible never says that as Christians we shouldn't judge those in the Church. There are lots of Biblical instructions on what to do if a brother or sister in Christ is caught in sin. Rather, we are not to judge those outside the Church (non believers).
Guard against worshipping a man. Man is not to be worshipped. The only one worth worshiping is King Jesus. Only He is perfect and He will never let you down.
I keep seeing comments like this on these videos. I just want to say that having a favorite Bible teacher doesn’t mean you worship him, love him, put his preaching above the word of God, don’t read and study on your own, or take what they say as the Gospel. It has nothing to do with worship but with seeking more and more information about what we can exposit from scripture. PLEASE stop saying this as though everyone who is upset about this somehow has some weird obsession about Lawson.
This makes me tremble. If King David, in the Bible, a man after God's own heart, fell into temptation and he was blinded by his sin that Nathan was sent by God to lead him to repentance, so we all are in danger to fall. That is why our Lord Jesus taught us to pray first of all that the name of God be honored as holy and also that we pray to the the Father to deliver us from the evil one. We all should watch ourselves, or we also may be tempted as in Galatians 6:1 says. Someone once said that men in ministries must be careful with three things: the love of money, the love of women, and the love of fame. Sorry, my English! I speak Spanish.
@@robw2486 God was alive and well, Holy Spirit was around. When the saducees emerged saying God had abandoned the earth is the same that cessationists do: God only manifested in the days of the apostles....so they became religious but with no guidance to God. Today God still raises Prophets to correct His people when they sin. This group does not hear His voice, they are religious, brain knowledge. Thus, he wad exhibited, his sin exposed.... very sad.
Thank you Phil Johnson, thr whole world have been waiting for more information and clarification as to what is going on, the trinity bible church is sugarcoating "inappropriate" and not being fully honest and truthful.
@@KristiLEvans1 Are you saying they were best friends, that they wore friendship bracelets and told each other secrets? I mean, that's the alternative.
@@PaolaSanchez-hc5my listen, I’m telling you that that’s the only way I can see him pulling this off, mentally. I’m not saying there was no sexual component, I’m saying I can believe he avoided the act of coitus, and that’s why he’s unrepentant.
@@KristiLEvans1 And that is why he should come forward and publicly confess his sin to the millions of people he has hurt, because we are left guessing. I personally think people can be deceptive and it's possible that Steve was one of them. He is a 70-something year old man with a wife and grown children. He knew what he was doing.
When pastors fall into sexual sin, it can serve as a wake-up call for the Church to re-evaluate its understanding of leadership and reliance on individuals rather than Christ. In the New Testament, there is no central figure, like a modern pastor, dominating the gathering or holding all spiritual authority. Such failures can remind believers that their faith should not rest on human leaders, who are fallible, but on Christ alone. These moments often prompt deeper reflection on biblical leadership, humility, accountability, and the importance of every believer's active participation in the body of Christ. It exposes the danger of placing too much trust in a single person and encourages a return to the early Church model where Christ is the true head of the Church.
Amen...all humans are sinners but for the grace of God who forgives the repentant heart. Look to Jesus only..He is God, to whom we are to honor with our life!
Proverbs 24:16-18 New King James Version 16 For a righteous man may fall seven times And rise again, But the wicked shall fall by calamity. 17 Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, And do not let your heart be glad when he stumbles; 18 Lest the Lord see it, and [a]it displease Him, And He turn away His wrath from him.
I do not believe that for five years nothing sexual happened. He is so delusional in his pride he thinks we are stupid! I am glad Justin Peters made the statement he did. I was slightly afraid he might try to minimize this. So glad he didn't.
“The wisest man in the Bible fell into sexual sin, the strongest man in the Bible fell to sexual sin, and the godliest man in the Bible fell to sexual sin. For me to think I'm above falling into this sin is to think that I'm wiser than Solomon, stronger than Samson, and godlier than King David.” Voddie Baucham
Is this man's temptation a distraction from what is truly the most important question of how we are saved today? We are saved by believing the gospel of the grace of God (that ONLY Paul taught) as recorded in I Corinthians 15:1-4.
You are correct. This type of thing questions a man's true faith. Just astounding has been doing this over 5 years, with no fear of God's judgment. Unbelievable.
This happened at my church , the pastor never repented , he resigned and started a “new” church with the help of some very well known celebrities , makes me gag
@@john5389 I don't know about you, but it feels like God's judgment against him is currently being poured out. He is being exposed, ridiculed and berated by millions of people.
He should not hv been counseling or spiritually advising a 20yo female. He used very poor judgement and a bit arrogant to think he was above moral failure
I disagree with your poor choice of words. This isn't "poor judgement" or a "bit arrogant" Too soft. We have to question this man's true faith. To do this for 5 years and not fear the Lord's judgment is incredible.
A spiritual leader should not counsel another gender alone. Or maybe it should be a lady needs to counsel a lady. Or two different coun selors should be present at a counseling meeting. Emotional bonds can be made.
How dare he preach the Gospel of Jesus, week after week. The fact he could go that long and not feel convicted or guilty because he was hurting his wife. God will be his Judge. I am extremely disappointed
I am not justifying.. but do not place words in anyone's mouth. How do you know he did not feel convicted or guilty. Please stop. Just pray. He sinned against God first then his wife.. there is another family as well. .. so just pray stop guessing at maybe what and if.. it's sinful. We have enough sin. Let's not add
@@nancyjhdI disagree with you. He continued to preach about week after week for years, certainly living a holy life came up during that time. Anyone who can carry on a double life like that means a part of their heart is callous to their own sin.
@nancyjhd this is a big issue in the church. There is no fear of God. And more sympathy goes to the perpetrators of bad things then the ones they hurt. When a season of sin, especially of this magnitude can continue, I question even their genuine conversion. This hit me hard. And my empathy goes to his wife. Adultery hurts!
This was no spur of the moment "mistake". A mistake is when you miss your turnoff on the freeway. This is hardened persistent sin. Even so, I do hope he repents but the circumstances make it apparent that Lawson hasn't been responsive to the conviction of the Holy Spirit.
He has repented, he has confessed, he has done all that he can do. God has forgiven him and we should forgive him too. I do not know any human being that is sinless.
@@robertagabor9128 Pure copium. Unless of course, you are a prophet and the Lord gave you a message saying so... how on earth do you know he has (biblically) repented? All the signs I see point the opposite direction. He confessed when he was caught--as even Achan did.
@kb27787 - you’re correct. It’s presumptuous to assert that he has repented. Remember David wrote a bunch of psalms after his sin and cried out to God over it. As far as I’m aware we haven’t heard a public confession from the pastor directly. So, only God knows someone’s heart.
I listened to his last sermon. You can hear his justifications. If the woman is so young, then he could be the age of her grandfather. Pride and arrogance. So sad.
It's worse. His last sermon published several days ago on the Sermon Audio website is called "Being Truth tellers" and is absolutely breathtaking in its arrogance and utter hypocrisy. Pure evil.
Then you may need to throw the whole bible away because it contains stories of terrible atrocities of mortal men. Why should we still call Abraham the father of faith? I feel very sad for our self righteous attitudes 😢
@@rhondae8222 I used to love Terry McAlmons worship music. Then he committed adultery and it's just not the same. His music since isn't the same to me either. I'm sorry if that offends some of you.
@@rhondae8222 The Word of God will NOT come back void. It WILL do what He has sent it to do. Don't worry about the man, worry about the message being sent forth.
@@TheNewyawker82 I’m more righteously angry. He would tell his congregation that going to his church proved that they were people with zeal for God. He would preach purity to them and was fooling them. Now they are left in the dark with no lead pastor. The world is now laughing at the name of Jesus Christ even more than they did before…. He had everything to lose and gambled it all, and for what?
@@Romans6_23 From what I read others comment that visited his church, Lawson wasnt a lead pastor, he was the lead preacher. He was also away traveling a lot.
Calvinism is biblical. You need to repent for rejecting God's Word. “Those he predestined, he also called; and those he called, he also justified; and those he justified, he also glorified” is a verse from the Bible, Romans 8:30.
The person who has been hurt the most was the last one mentioned. 5 years is a long time to choose to lie to your wife every single day… the life shattering destruction she is experiencing is beyond comprehension unless you have been through it yourself. Betrayal is worse than death….. The Judas kiss everyday for 5 years…. I can not wrap my head around this at all….
That is not true, his wife was not hurt to the point that she has just cause for divorce as per Matthew 19:9. His wife should stay in submission, since Lawson stopped short of fornication.
@@Clrfy As I said only fornication, I.e. sexual intercourse is cause for divorce according to Matthew 19:9. Not even oral sex with another partner is cause for divorce. If we are going to use your standard and use the word pornea, or the definition of adultery Jesus used in the Sermon on the Mount (looking at a woman with a lustful eye) women would be divorcing their husbands every time they open an instagram account of a fitness model or glance at a hot woman at the beach, mall, office, or walking on the street. No marriage would be alive if we were to apply your standard of sexual purity to marriage. The Sermon on the Mount, just as the story of the rich young ruler, was addressed to Pharisees that thought they could be justified by the law to show them they could not keep the law. Jesus does not expect us to stop looking at women to lust after them, ,he knows we will do it, and in the sermon on the mount when he said it is better to pluck our own eye than looking at a woman to lust after her, he does not expect us to mutilate our bodies, the Sermon in the Mount is to show us we cannot stop sinning. For the purpose of the law is knowledge of sin as Paul says. No different from the rich young ruler, Jesus does not expect us to sell all our possessions and give them to the poor, he is commanding us to do it to show us we cannot do it, and we cannot be justified by the law. Your interpretation of God’s law is legalistic, and your marital advice will end up obliterating the institution of marriage since no man except Jesus can meet your standard of sexual purity. Your thinking resembles radical feminism more than biblical Christianity, sadly so did Steve Lawson’s who preached about sexual purity as if it was attainable, and damn himself by his own preaching. Radical feminist and the women’s movement has invaded the church and is destroying it, by creating false expectations of what a husband is capable of doing, no man is capable of lusting after women other than his wife, that is fact.
@@Clrfy The greek word for adultery in the New Testament is Moicheia and not porneia as you state. That said the word the bible uses for fornication in Matthew 19:9 is porneia, which must be interpreted as sexual intercourse. Modern bible translations unlike the King James use sexual immorality, instead of fornication, but this is an incorrect translation. Jesus was clearly referring to fornication (sexual intercourse) as the sole cause for divorce. Friberg's Analytical Lexicon to the Greek New Testament defines porneia as being "generally, every kind of extramarital, unlawful or unnatural sexual intercourse". Oral sex is not cause for divorce, let that sink in, and much less is Lawson's behaviour. Jesus set the bar low,, He was not a marriage breaker like modern feminists that think they can leave their husbands if they fondle another woman or engage in oral sex with another woman, if a woman were to do that she would become the adulteress as per Matthew 19:9. If Steve Lawson's wife left him over this relationship it would be her committing the adultery, and not Steve, whose sin did not break the marital bond because it stopped short of sexual intercourse as I explained. Now clearly Matthew 5:27-30 defines adultery as looking at a woman with a lustful eye, and goes further to state if your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out, or your right arm, cut it off, but the purpose here is to convict us of our sinful condition so that we would embrace Christ as Saviour, Jesus did not intend for us to mutilate our bodies to stop looking at women to lust after them, he knew very well no man can stop looking at women lustfully, so he issued the command not with the expectation of obedience on our part but to show us our disobedience. As Paul states the purpose of the law is knowledge of sin and no man can be justified by the law.
Are you joking, is this what they call trolling? Unbelievable. If you are serious you need to go to God and repent of your worship of man. I'm so sick of this crap.
@@KennethSeeit absolutely was. Whether physical or not, adultery can be emotional too. But we’d be naive to think there wasn’t any physical adultery esp when Steve has been deceiving everyone for 5 years
You're correct of course; why else would they be praying for his repentance. Even more clearly, he must not be remorseful, if they're praying for his repentance.
@@natlee5051 we have no idea if he has repented or not. Some people posting here act like they know the mind of this man. Also, I see people on here who are totally insincere. They want to gossip and to know all the details of the sin. We all need to look at our own lives before we so boldly desire to focus on the sins if others. Vengeance is the Lord's.
Surprised? NO -- stop making clergymen out to be Jesus --- they are NOT. Lawson in his last sermon could have been honest, confessed his sins to his congregation, apologized to God, his wife, his children, his grandchildren, his congregation, and vowed to repent of his sins - but did he do this? -- NO -- instead he said his transgression was "just a hiccup" -- he was DEFIANT in his last sermon - by doing so he revealed his true self - the actor pastor that he really is. I will pray for him and his suffering family.
Did you hear that his latest book was released the morning of his confession? He confessed later that day ...l wonder if he waited to get that out first. Pre-sold thousands of copies Soo don't wanna lose your income when they live such a lavish lifestyle.
@@justinherbert9146 The Bible says to trust in no man, or a friend, have no confidence in a guide, went so far as tell us not to even trust our wives. Psalm 118:8 Micah 7:5. Lawson was a guide, and the Bible clearly told us not to trust in a guide. I don't have anything to forgive him for, I can and I have prayed for him, but his sin is against God, he's family and his church. Not against me or anyone else. It's public because his a public figure, but he didn't sin against you, once God forgives him and his family as well, I don't think he'll be concerned about you or me and he doesn't have too. We as Christians I think are becoming busy bodies, and gossipers.
Proverbs 24:16-18 New King James Version 16 For a righteous man may fall seven times And rise again, But the wicked shall fall by calamity. 17 Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, And do not let your heart be glad when he stumbles; 18 Lest the Lord see it, and [a]it displease Him, And He turn away His wrath from him.
@@damilolaa.3752Literal adultery? Jesus Himself said lusting after a woman is adultery. These two were caught holding hands, and her father said it was a 5 year relationship. Lawson only spoke up because he was going to be outed. The man is a fraud.
As a person in ministry for 30+ years, I have spoken with many young adults who suffered unconscionable mental, emotional, and sexual abuse at the hands of adults. The story of this woman sounds all too familiar, an older respected adult violating the trust and manipulating an impressionable younger person. The victim in all of this is the woman. Steve’s family and ministry are tragic collateral damage. This woman needs our prayers. I pray she has godly parents, pastors and elders who will lovingly walk her through the process of repentance,, restoration, and healing.
His wife is JUST as much a victim. The 20 yr knew it was wrong and could have asked friends if it was ok to do. The wife didn't know it was happening! She's the bigger victim.
I always thought there was something off about Steve Lawson. I never really liked to listen to him preach. Strange how that inkling has been confirmed.
Same. He never was someone I went to for teaching so this scandal is not so devastating to me.
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Olá, eu sentia a mesma coisa. Ele veio para o Brasil semanas atrás para uma conferência e não consegui assistir a pregação dele, somente do pastor Paul Washer. Parecia ter muita raiva no sermão dele.
As a believer in Christ, I am very aware that to some people, I represent the God I serve. Steve Lawson represented the God he served to many people. And because of this, he has put God in a bad light to those people who are not strong in their faith or to those who didn't know God at all but were watching. This is exactly why teachers and preachers are held to a higher standard than others.
Someone I know had a decade plus long affair. When confronted he literally defended his actions talking about how generous he was to the church and how God was displaying His approval because he was gaining wealth. Lawson saying you shouldn't judge a person on one issue because they have a body of work dedicated to the truth sounds like a similar cop out.
@@John14Verse6commandments #3 and #7. He has taken the Lord's name in vain by committing perverse acts under the name of God and committing adultery. You don't really have to dig up too many verses for this. The commandments say enough.
@@John14Verse6Matthew 5:26-27 27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. First thing that comes to mind.
I totally agree with Justin Peters. I was devastated by the news of Steve Lawson. He no longer should be able to minister in any form due to his hiccup that lasted 5 years. He didn’t want to embarrass his earthly father due to all he had sacrificed for him, well how about his Heavenly Father who sacrificed his only begotten son?
Really? Hmm. So if Steve Lawson is repentant, should the church receive him back? If yes, shouldn't he minister to the church? The new testament is filled with the verses that he should. Don't you read David? David who committed sins more horrendous than Steve Lawson from human perspective. and isn't in a way David ministering to you? A physical adulterer and murderer minestering to you - who is of course better than David and Steve Lawson... No i do not excuse sin or belittle sin. In fact none of is really knows how horrendous sin really is. And will never ever know in eternity. To grasp the heinousness of sin you must first grasp the value and Worth of God, with other words only God alone knows and will ever know how bad a sin really is. But here is a list of bible verses referring to minestering in the church. I think according to the New Testament, Steve Lawson should not be a Pastor that Shepherds a church anymore for "above reproach" is in this context. But certainly he should minister to his church and even minister in many different ways as the doors open except having a church under his shepherding:
From Chat Gpt: Certainly! Here are the previously mentioned Bible verses translated in the **New American Standard Bible (NASB)** version: --- ### **1. 1 Peter 4:10-11 (NASB)** > **"As each one has received a gift, minister it to one another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God. If anyone speaks, he should speak as one who speaks the oracles of God. If anyone serves, he should do it with the strength which God supplies, so that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belongs the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen."** **Explanation:** This passage encourages believers to use their unique gifts to serve one another, emphasizing stewardship and service within the community. --- ### **2. Ephesians 4:11-16 (NASB)** > **"And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, > > until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; > > so that we are no longer children, tossed back and forth and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, > > but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head-Christ- from whom the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part is working properly."** **Explanation:** Paul outlines the roles within the church aimed at equipping believers for service, promoting unity, and building up the body of Christ through mutual ministry. --- ### **3. Galatians 6:2-5 (NASB)** > **"Bear one another’s burdens, and thereby you will fulfill the law of Christ. > > For if anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself. > > For each one shall bear his own load. > > Let the one who is taught the word share all good things with the one who is teaching. > > Do not be deceived: God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. > > For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap everlastingness."** **Explanation:** This encourages believers to support one another by sharing burdens, fulfilling Christ’s law through mutual care, while also taking personal responsibility. --- ### **4. Romans 12:4-8 (NASB)** > **"For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function, > > so we, who are many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another’s body. > > Having gifts differing according to the grace given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith; > > or ministry, let us use it in our ministering; > > whoever teaches, let him do it with his teaching; > > whoever exhorts, let him do it with his exhortation; > > the one who gives, with liberality; > > the one who rules, with diligence; > > the one who shows mercy, with cheerfulness."** **Explanation:** Paul likens the church to a body with diverse members, each with different gifts, all essential for the functioning and ministry of the whole community. --- ### **5. Hebrews 10:24-25 (NASB)** > **"And let us consider one another in order to stimulate to love and good deeds, not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day approaching."** **Explanation:** This passage emphasizes the importance of mutual encouragement and motivating one another to perform good works within the church community. --- ### **6. James 5:16 (NASB)** > **"Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, so that you may be healed. The effective fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much."** **Explanation:** James highlights the role of mutual confession and prayer, fostering spiritual support and accountability among believers. --- ### **7. 1 Thessalonians 5:11 (NASB)** > **"Therefore encourage one another and build one another up, just as you are doing."** **Explanation:** This encourages continual mutual encouragement and edification within the church. --- ### **8. Acts 2:44-47 (NASB)** > **"And all who believed were together, and had all things in common; and they sold their possessions and goods and distributed them to all, as any had need. > > So continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they were eating their food with gladness and simplicity of heart, praising God and having the favor of all the people. > > And the Lord added to their number day by day those who were being saved."** **Explanation:** Describes the early church's communal living and mutual support, setting a precedent for shared ministry and care. --- ### **9. 1 Corinthians 12:12-27 (NASB)** > **"For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so also is Christ. > > For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body-Jews or Greeks, slaves or free-and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. > > For the body does not consist of one member but of many. > > If the foot shall say, 'Because I am not a hand, I don’t belong to the body,' that would not make it any less a part of the body. > > And if the ear should say, 'Because I am not an eye, I don’t belong to the body,' that would not make it any less a part of the body. > > If the whole body were an eye, where would be the sense of hearing? If the whole body were an ear, where would be the sense of smell? > > But as it is, God arranged the members in the body, each one of them, as He chose. > > If all were a single member, where would the body be? Now therefore, He likewise disposes the members in the body, each one of them, as He has determined. > > And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or, if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it. > > Now you are the body of Christ, and individually members of it."** **Explanation:** Paul explains the interdependence of church members, each with unique functions, emphasizing that every member is essential for the body’s overall health and ministry. --- ### **10. Philippians 2:1-4 (NASB)** > **"Therefore if there is any encouragement in Christ, if any consolation of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and mercy, > > fulfill my joy by being like-minded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind. > > Do nothing out of selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. > > Let each of you look not to your own interests, but each of you to the interests of the others."** **Explanation:** Encourages believers to prioritize others’ needs and interests, fostering an environment of mutual support and ministry. --- ### **11. Colossians 3:16-17 (NASB)** > **"Let the word of Christ richly dwell within you, in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another with psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with thankfulness in your hearts to God. > > Whatever you do in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him."** **Explanation:** Highlights the importance of teaching, admonishing, and worshiping together, promoting a collective ministry within the church. --- ### **12. 1 John 3:16-18 (NASB)** > **"Hereby we know love, that He laid down His life for us; and we ought to lay down our lives for the brothers. > > But whoever has this world's goods, and sees his brother in need, and shuts up his compassion from him, how does the love of God abide in him? > > Little children, let us not love in word or talk, but in deed and in truth."** **Explanation:** Encourages believers to demonstrate love through actions, reflecting ministry and genuine care for one another. --- ### **13. 1 Corinthians 14:26 (NASB)** > **"What then, brothers? When you come together, each of you has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. Let all things be done for building up."** **Explanation:** Emphasizes that every member contributes to building up the church, ensuring mutual edification through various forms of ministry. --- ### **14. Romans 15:1-2 (NASB)** > **"We who are strong ought to bear with the failings of the weak, and not to please ourselves. > > Each of us should please his neighbor for his good, to build him up."** **Explanation:** Encourages believers to support and build up one another, especially those who are weaker, fostering a supportive ministry environment. --- ### **15. Titus **3:14** (NASB)** > **"And let our people learn to devote themselves to good works, so that they may not be unfruitful."** **Explanation:** Highlights the importance of active service and addressing the needs within the community, promoting mutual ministry and productivity. --- These verses collectively underscore the biblical foundation for mutual ministry within the church, encouraging believers to use their gifts, support one another, and work together to build a strong, loving, and effective Christian community.
(1) Steve Lawson’s “last sermon” says to me he was anticipating the bad news that he knew would very likely soon come out and was trying to “get out in front of it” as the PR hacks would say. (2) This indicates a consciousness of the backlash that would result and a cynical effort to “manage” the news when it broke. (3) Unfaithfulness in marriage is always extremely painful, even if it’s only “emotional”; but if this “inappropriate relationship” was carried on over a 5-year period, it’s hard to imagine it was only “emotional”. In addition, there is the hurt, the shaken faith of young believers, the reproach to the name of Christ and His Church, and the mocking voice of the unbeliever ringing in our ears. 2 Cor 7:10 “For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death” comes to mind. Only the Father knows SL’s heart. Psalm 145:8 “The Lord is gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy.” I pray for the full weight of what SL’s actions have caused to dawn on him, that he make a full confession, comes to full repentance, and at some point makes an honest public apology.
All the years of lawson’s ministry n service going down the drain. For what? And he can still go up the pulpit to preach during the 5 yrs of infidelity n deception?
I did listen to his last AGTV Bible study and his last sermon and it grieved me to think while he was prepping those talks and Bible study he was somehow able to reconcile a five year sinful relationship with a young girl
@@E5nklodrthb yes, sadly, he had already been lying to everybody for five years, so why would he not lie about a physical relationship with her. I agree about that.
Could’ve been a texting/ online relationship. He was old already. It’s not like he has the same desires and stamina as a twenty-year-old man. He does have a list problem and he did commit adultery in his mind, so it’s still very bad, but consider that it could have been more of an online attraction turned into sexual/ romantic/ sinful texting relationship outside of his marriage.
@@tidepodmusical4173 Hate to tell you this, but while a 70 year old might not have the stamina of a twenty year old, he definitely has the desire. Even 90 year old men still have the desire!
We desperately need our leaders to embrace the "Billy Graham Rule." NEVER being alone with a woman, guarantees that we never have this happen again. Wouldn't that be wonderful?
I agree, but it’s shocking to me the number of times I have heard professed Christians try to justify all kinds of questionable behavior claiming those who would warn of the dangers are “legalistic” and that we “no longer live under the law”, forgetting or ignoring that we are admonished to “Abstain from all appearance of evil.” I Thess 5:22 and to consider the weaker brother I Cor. 8:9-13.
@@JonathanGrandt “The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked; who can know it”. This is precisely why Christians need to “guard their hearts” by observing sensible precautions.
@JonathanGrandt For immediate and vital reasons, for the public reputation of the body of Christ, we desperately need a reliable method of ending the constant parade of adultery in leadership. The deeper issue certainly needs to be addressed privately (between a man and God). I've got no power to make that happen. However, having our leaders publicly dedicate themselves to abstain from privately meeting with young women (ALONE) this would totally wipe out any further public scandal. It's doable. If anyone has a better suggestion, I'd like to hear it.
@@azgardenlover370 My judgment was fine. It was his I was appalled at. I came to know Christ during that awful time and now am very thankful it happened. I am so glad to be rid of him. Thanks, and God bless you.
Pastors should be above reproach, which means they should be blameless and free from sinful habits or behaviors that would bring shame to the church or Jesus' name. This is because pastors are examples for others to follow, and their character and behavior should set a high Christian standard (1 Timothy 3:1-7; Titus 1:6-9).
Anyone calling themselves "Pastor" is exposing their own phoniness and hunger for authority, not a true calling to serve. Jesus Himself warned against chasing after titles like "Rabbi" or "Father," yet some ignore His clear instruction to reject such labels in favor of humble servanthood (Matthew 23:8-10). These so-called "pastors" use a title to elevate themselves above others, seeking recognition and control instead of leading by example in Christ-like humility. If their leadership depended on the fruits of the Spirit and genuine service to the body of Christ, they wouldn't need a title to prove it. They're parading a false sense of authority, and it's an insult to the true worship of God in spirit and truth.
Justin Peters is correct. In my walk I have been blessed by multiple biblical teachers who were later found to have been living a sinful life. I have chosen to put their teaching behind me. God is not desperate for teachers and we need not settle for those who intentionally deceive.
@@bloodboughtbigphilr8266why do you say? Because he scrutinizes false teachers for the sake of the body? If you could please add a link so we know what you are referring to. I'd like to know.
@bloodboughtbigphilr8266 it is ONLY by the atonement of Jesus's shed blood. With that being said, he can't hold a ministerial position. The sermons, if live via anything other than his personal business, should not be linked with the church. Doesn't mean he isn't forgiven IF he repents (and only Jesus knows that), just means that he does not represent the church anymore. The Bible is clear on how to navigate the waters of a follower who doesn't repent and how it is to be handled. But Peter's is a babe in Christ, so let's not forget that either. WE have ALL fallen, none righteous, not one. The Bible states that in the end times, Jesus will, Himself, pick His church. We pray all come to forgiveness. I pray his wife is okay. This is trauma 💔
I’m with you on this brother, i could not listen or read S Lawson again knowing what has happened, not to say that i’m exempt from the fall, but knowing the details (5 years of adultery, lies, lack of fear of God, and after been caught in sin trying to minimise it by calling it a hick up) makes me stumble. i hope the Lord breaks him to genuine repentance. Lord have mercy on all of us.
Wow........ so sad 😞, 5 years...... 25 yr old...... no, sorry Steve, we all fall short but this is a bit much. He should have stood down a long time ago ❤🇦🇺
@@anthonycalipjo8669It's not casting the first stone. He wasn't like the woman caught in adultery who didn't know Jesus. He's supposed to know the truth. He is even a teacher and preacher. Read Titus 1 and 1 Timothy 3.
@@PPorell As a regenerated man we may fall into temptation once or because Satan is an active foe. Yet If truly born again, the Spirit of God will judge the action immediately and give a way of escape like Joseph ran away. A clean man will not take towels and soap to go wash in the sewer.
Steve Lawson was aggressive in his Lordship Salvation and borderline bragged to the young college folks in that video where he talked about sexual sins destroying your life and ministry. He said he as a virgin until he got married in his 30’s, he didn’t fall for sexual temptation like his college friends and he was probably the best athlete on the football team. He was basically bragging about how much discipline he had and those that fail would be doing a newspaper route and a few other degrading comments as if God could not bring a sinful Christian back to repentance. Kind David got another man’s wife pregnant, had her husband killed, then married the woman. Yes, he was disciplined by God, but he was still loved and considered a true man of God. Can you imagine any Christian leader doing what King David did in 2024? I’m not giving King David a pass, but I am saying that you can make a major sinful mistake and God will forgive you if you have a contrite heart. Based on Lawson’s Lordship Salvation ideology, he must not be a true believer if he’s been wallowing in an adulterous relationship for (5) years? It’s ridiculous and he had no problem talking about other Christian leaders that made comments or beliefs that he felt were wrong, so I hope he truly repents, but he created this holy than though persona about himself.
I totally agree with Justin Peters! The fact this went on for 5 years and it was the woman's father that stepped up to the plate is absolutely disgraceful - that it took her dad to pull the mat on this. I think it was sexual for sure! If Steve Lawson had any conscience about this at all he would step up and BE CLEAR what went on!!
Though I dont agree with every aspect of interpretation of scripture John has, I am glad he is doing well. He stands his ground on Gods word. He has much great insight which has blessed the church. Its sad that he also has to deal with this deception by someone so close to him in ministry.
Why not share her name, she’s an adult in a relationship with a well known pastor. THEIR SIN has brought down a pastor and publicly disgraced the Lord’s Church, and has possibly destroyed his family. Her identity should NOT be hidden.
ok but what would that achieve, really? people harassing and condemning her? the damage has been done, he's stepped down - it doesn't really seem necessary at the end of the day
I don't agree. Think about how young she was when this started. She is not innocent, but he is certainly the one who bears the most responsibility. No need to drag her name through the mud. Imagine if it was your daughter.
Ohhh.. I see.. we are now on the internet and as a mob we go after people and place a scarlet letter. Who did you last sin against? Tell us the details.. let's create a page and tell the world and shame you. Stop. Just stop. Read The Word and focus on your sin and repent. Unbelievable.
@@SK-mz4cq I know what you're saying but there are some studies out there that the age of adolescence has been expanded from 13-18 (in the past) to 10-25 nowadays.
"Never venture near the door where sin dwells least you are dragged in!" ~ William Gurnall I am sure brethrens he is close to must be deeply grieved, gutted and still in shock. He his a adulterer. I was hoping for restoration until I heard about the five year relationship with a young woman old enough to be his granddaughter, there's no talk of his repentance and he himself as not said anything because he was caught and we have continued had he not been caught. I pray for Steve's repentance and his family, especially his poor wife. However personally, I won't be sharing anymore of Steve's things because there's too many unbelievers that think we are all hypocrites at the best of times. Let this be a message of warning for all pastors who are struggling with this kind of sin to step down, and those thinking of becoming a pastor don't!!
I can no longer listen to Alistair Begg because he wouldn't repent of supporting gay marriage. It makes everything he said before about Romans 1 very insincere.
@@marybrown1806 I agree, but I also know that he was talking about a “grandmother “which when you are a grandmother and you love your grandchild you want to support them. But you cannot support them in their sinful lifestyle. You have to tell them it is wrong. You can still love them while not supporting the marriage.
I feel bad for his wife . A 25 yr old? Any affair is heartbreaking, but a woman’s worst nightmare has got to be their husband in a relationship with a 25 yr old woman at their age … devestating! You never know who your spuse is interacting with . We are all sinners is all I can say at this point.
@@robertagabor9128 Pastors should be above reproach, which means they should be blameless and free from sinful habits or behaviors that would bring shame to the church or Jesus' name. This is because pastors are examples for others to follow, and their character and behavior should set a high Christian standard (1 Timothy 3:1-7; Titus 1:6-9).
I understand your thoughts on this, however as angry and hurt as l would be, and more disgusted! I really think l would be more hurt if it were someone closer to his and mine own age.. reason being... the young woman was more of a lust thing! Still great sin! Where if the other party were older. I would take it MORE personal!! Feeling he preferred another over me, not just for physical lust. Being attracted for emotional,companionship, friendship, etc... Yes l would still be crushed no matter the age! I pray for him, his wife and family. For full recovery, just soo sad.😓🙏🙏🙏
Galatians 6:1 outlines the steps to restore a fallen brother caught in sin and they are: 1- Spiritually Mature Christians or those sensitive to God by faith & biblical truth; 2- restore implies bringing that person or persons gently back to God like mending a broken bone not with a crowbar method to restore them back to fellowship with Christ; 3- Be on guard yourself lest you fall into the same sin....we could all fall we are not immune to the dangers of erosion sinfully. 1 Peter 5:8 & Roman's 7 & Galatians 5..the Fesh/Spirit war within. Those of you who know this man personally should gently encourage him to repent before God...ask his forgiveness 1 John 1:9 & come clean before the Lord...😊
Proverbs 24:16-18 New King James Version 16 For a righteous man may fall seven times And rise again, But the wicked shall fall by calamity. 17 Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, And do not let your heart be glad when he stumbles; 18 Lest the Lord see it, and [a]it displease Him, And He turn away His wrath from him.
This is no "hiccup". He had a choice - stop before it started or continue with this sinful (which he knew it was) behavior. He chose to live this sinful lifestyle. The woman is just as guilty. She is not a minor child. This is disgusting behavior. My heart and prayers go out to his wife and family. The church elders and Board should not have a "poor you" attitude towards this man. Steve Lawson CHOSE this sinful activity. Telling the church staff was easy. Words are cheap. Now, is the hard part - facing his family every day and facing God every day!
Not to mention the fact that the young woman’s father was about to expose him so he wanted to stay ahead of the story. Does that constitute true repentance?
Facing God will be difficult, because he is condemned by his own preaching. Facing his wife and family should not be difficult, all he has to do is invoke Matthew 19:9 and show he did not engage in fornication, no matter how egregious his behaviour was it stopped short of fornication.
@@henrka that is now drawing a line. You are saying his made-to-report his "sin" okay. No, it is equally as bad if he did fornicate or not. He looked at this woman with lust while married, he might as gone "all the way".
@@susanbender6029 That is silly, every man looks at a woman with a lustful eye while married. I do not know a single one that does not. Although Jesus told us to not look at a woman with a lustful eye, the purpose of the command was never that we would follow it since none of us can. It was actually to show us we are all disobedient, for the purpose of the law is knowledge of sin. The Sermon on the Mount is addressed to Pharisees that thought they were keeping the law to show them they were not. If I had to follow the Sermon in the Mount I would have to pluck out my eye, and I can assure you it is not the will of God to mutilate my body. Same thing when Jesus told the rich young ruler to sell everything and give it to the poor, this was to show him his sin, and it was never intended that he followed the command which he was unable to. The purpose of the sermon on the Mount is to show our inability to keep the commands, and our disobedience. You are misusing the law if you believe the Sermon on the Mount gives you the right to leave your husband, it does not. On the contrary only fornication gives you that right as Matthew 19:9 teaches. Jesus was not a marriage breaker, he set the bar as low as he could, so that man could obey the law and stay married. But when it came to show us our sin in the sermon on the mount he set the bar as high as he could, to show we cannot be justified by keeping the law.
I do not hear any repentance from Lawson. A 25-year-old woman is very vulnerable, due to the current philosophy imposed on young women. He is a preparator of sexual deviancy.
Hold on, it is this sick feminism that you espouse and has infiltrated the church that is the problem much more than Lawson’s behaviour which stopped short of fornication which is the sole cause for divorce as per Matthew 19:9. Lawson’s behaviour is not sexual deviancy, it is the dream of every man in his 70s to be with a 20 year old. Whether you realize it or not, you are condemning all men and calling them sexually deviant. Are all men sinful and adulterers ? Yes, I do not know anybody that has not,looked at a woman to,lust after her, that being said there is grace in the gospel. Now as I said, fornication would destroy the marital bond, but any sexual sin short of fornication ought to be forgiven by the wife that must remain in submission to her husband. Sadly this is not preached in the church today, thus creating unrealistic expectations of male behaviour in marriage. And Lawson is guilty of this faulty preaching, think about it, Lawson condemned himself to hell by his own preaching, should his preached words be applied to his conduct he would go to hell. Lawson ought to repent first and foremost of his false preaching, and secondly only of his behaviour to his wife.
@@OneMan-wl1wj the philosophy of feminist to minimize their culpability of sin. Apparently it is now considered that if you any power over someone like boss and secretary, teacher and student, and the 2 have an affair the lesser power is a victim
His sin is egregious. I have been down that road. I did it at 20 years old and I regret it every single day. God has forgiven me, but I live single so I don't screw up again.
I do not think you have to stay single, as long as you stay out of fornication (Matthew 19:9) and agree with your spouse that is the most you will commit since you may be incapable of keeping a bigger commitment you will be OK. Sadly though, in today’s feminist culture very few women would accept that level of commitment, because of it staying single is a good choice these days. Feminism has destroyed the family, and the expectations women and society put on men are unrealistic. I can see from the posts of women here, that none of them are marriage material, since only Jesus can meet their expectations.
@@henrka You can talk about femminism all you want, the fact is most men cheat on their wives, even in christian circles. I am single mom because he left me for another woman. DO you have any idea how many of my christian friend moms have come forward to tell me of their husband's adultery? I mean most are still married with these men and they have children, it's no wonder women would rather be alone than married with children with an adulterer. And what's worse? These are women who don't deny them sex, are faithful mothers and wives, imagine the suffering they endure in those marriages.
So Steve Lawson never came forward willingly confessing to the elders board? Five years is a long time to remain in wicked premeditated sin. I call that FALSE TEACHER
I have a lot of questions… 5 years is a while. For the woman who was with him… why? Was he like her father figure? Did he give her money? How would their pairing lead to anything fruitful on her end? The fact that it went on for this long says a lot about the type of accountability he had… this is crazy. Since marriage represents Christ and the church, I assume his wife must be beyond disappointed. My prayers go out to her. That will take some serious recovery.
thanks Tim - still waiting to hear what JM has to say about it. I'm sure he's very disappointed and hurt by this. I am concerned it could affect his health and recovery from the procedures he's had recently
He does not have a ministry to his wife and family. Nope. He lost that privilege. I pray his wife accepted that and moves forward. At the base level, scripture supports her leaving him.
i think justin peters is right , i would wait until mr. lawson himself publically confess and apologise to the world. otherwise we have to treat him just like we would with ravi. after the obvious heart felt repentance i think the next generation of christians can still treat any man of God (judging his whole life of true fruits of sanctification) just like any biblical saints(david and abraham for example), for now and for some years or decades his reputation is of no use for the gospel and likely stumbling block to the unsaved.
My personal opinion: First, I believe Phil Johnson erred in his public posting of the "details" of brother Steve Lawson's moral failure. He is correct in saying he should have left this up to the leadership of Trinity in posting any further information on Lawson and his inappropriate relationship and thankfully, he took his post down. Second, we must pray for Steve Lawson, his family, and the fellowship of Trinity. We must affirm our love for him lest he become so cast down in spirit and soul. Our God and Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, has paid the penalty for his sin (as He has for all those who have put their trust in Him), and we must trust God to lovingly restore him to a right fellowship with Himself and with the brethren. Third, we must pray for Steve Lawson's full restoration and fellowship as he is a brother in Christ who has fallen. Finally, we must all remember that we, as sinners saved by grace, are all fallen, human creatures ourselves, subject to the failures of our flesh and only by God's grace and the power of the Holy Spirit are we able to walk in victory on a daily basis. The enemy, Satan, our flesh and the world are all present and willing for us to fail if we do not take heed......."Therefore let the one who thinks he stands watch out that he does not fall" (1 Corinthians 10:12).
I agree with you about Phil Johnson. I love Phil but I think he was wrong. Most of the newest details came from X, formally Twitter. How much of it is the exact truth? I don't think we REALLY know.
Thank you so much for this update. Ever since I heard about this situation, I have struggled with being shocked, heartbroken but also anger. Steve Lawson should have come forward immediately to clarify and show a repentant spirit. Without doing so, it left too much ambiguity and too many assumptions. This update is worse than I would have thought and I agree with everything you said. The ramifications are heartbreaking. I pray for his family especially and that he will own up to his failure and be restored. Until then, and even now, Satan will continue to destroy people and lives. But, in my heart I know God will not lose His church or His people.🙏🙏🙏
I don't think all of his materials, sermons, bible studies should be deleted. He wasn't in sin through his whole ministry. He knew what he was doing though and he knows the consequences. It's just all so very sad to me.
@@robertagabor9128Did he voluntarily end this “moral failure”, or did he stop when others found out? Why is he allowing the church to make this statement instead of sharing the details himself? Will we ever know what the “inappropriate relationship” was?
Who knows if this is his 1st hiccup. Could have been masquerading for years. If he could stand before God and a congregation and preach Sunday after Sunday like he has been for 5 years in sin, I have no confidence in him.
@@Teetech37 To be fair, the information that was shared about the 5-year relationship, the woman is in her 20's and the info about the father of the woman calling the church to tell them, is all coming from secondhand information. OnePassion Ministries nor Trinity Bible Church shared that information. It was information that was, as far as I know, leaked on Twitter. Supposedly, he only confessed because he knew he was busted.
I feel that Steve's last sermon was disingenuous. He knew he was doing wrong and about to confess his sin, so he tried to dampen down the judgement as much as he could as a pre-damage control exercise. He knew he had no right to on the stage at all preaching, but he did it anyway. He reminds me of the dishonest servant who made good with his master's creditors before being fired.
Knowing what happened, it comes across as self-serving and unrepentant. At the very least, it is tone-deaf. If you listen to the sermon, around the 11: 40sec mark he talks about how they are going to pick up on verse 33 in the following week. Makes me wonder how much of him stepping down was on his own volition or out of necessity.
Well done on this heartbreaking news. I agree with you, Phil Johnson and Justin Peters. I watched Steve Lawson 's last sermon. Was very strange message, knowing what I know since the news broke, he knew what was coming and try to play it down to John the Baptist and use Jesus words there by. The latter is what scatterd me for Jesus preaching was crafty twisted to suit Steve's situation. He has brought shame to the Name and teachings of Christ. That is what scatterd my heart. Would not and could not listen to any of his pastoral work. Praying that the Lord be mercy full and grant him true repentance. Soli Deo Gloria!
this is crushing....all pastors are held to a high standard....end of story. He needs to step down forever, reflect on his life and his walk with Christ. I dont think he lost his salvation and yes Jesus is merciful eternal life is waiting for Lawson...but he should never again preach, hundred percent. For some reason so many pastors think they can commit certain sins that are so castrophic to the name of Jesus, and yet continue in HIS GRACE by preaching. Step down, and walk away. No one is saying he lost his salvation but please stop with the second chances on the pulpit.
He’s basically condemned himself in every sermon he’s preached on adultery, so people who are accused of “judging” him are simply agreeing with what he himself has said.
Unfortunately you are correct. Lawson was a legalistic and his sermons on adultery were awful and he condemned himself in them. Instead of using the Sermon of the Mount for the purpose of knowledge of sin, he used it to tell others how to behave. This was a theological blunder, and had Lawson followed his preaching and applied it to himself, he should have plucked out his eye and cut off his arms. Lawson’s fall into sin amounts to a theological train wreck of what he preached.
By thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. Mat12:37 > And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Luk19:22 Sobering words.
To say that his books and teaching should never be used again it’s kind of ridiculous. We might as well stop reading, psalms in proverbs written by men who had fallen in their lifetime in sin. The truth of God’s word does not fall when a man falls. Yes there is shame from that person, and God will deal with them as he wills. Should we give credit to that person for the truth preached? All glory to God. He uses whom He chooses and God is not surprised by all this. Steve will be held accountable to God. Sadly, he has disqualified himself from future ministry!
Jesus said in Matthew 5 that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery in their heart. Jesus didn't say it was inappropriate! It is what it is.
It is absolutely ludicrous and hypocritical to believe it would be right to delete/"cancel" Lawson's content. And I'm not talking about individuals who are personally saddened and can't enjoy it. To each their own. I'm talking about the idea that it would be wrong to listen and use it any more. What, you were blessed by what he said 10 years ago, but now what he says is cursed? All of "our reformed theologians" died with unrepentent sin. People trying to cancel Lawson('s content) are no different than those who try to cancel Edwards and his content. The 300 years time spam between the sin and the present makes no difference in this particular judgement.
What do you mean by referring to Edwards? Please explain so I can understand. My problem would be I could no longer enjoy listening to his stirring sermons knowing all that time he was deliberately deceiving us.
I agree with you; as I am in no position to determine his fitfulness for preaching ministry bc of my lack of information, I would have to trust that the elders in his church have made the appropriate decision. Having established that, I don’t believe it is sinful to use his materials; however, I would consider the wisdom in promoting them to others. For instance, if I made the suggestion to someone else, I might include a disclaimer. I just don’t think we will ever really know with great accuracy the breadth of his situation, though as time passes, the wisdom around making such decisions will be clearer.
All of his materials are now cursed as a result of this relationship. You know why ? Not because of the relationship itself, but because of the content of his materials. Lawson condemned himself to hell in his materials, his preaching on sexual purity was so,legalistic, that the material is now cursed. Other great theologians like Karl Barth who lived a life of adultery with his secretary have not had their materials cursed, because Barth was gracious and he admitted in his materials that every man commits adultery and is forgiven by God, so his materials survived. Unfortunately Lawson ok a legalistic view of sexual immorality, by which he cursed his materials and his writings and videos cannot survive his relationship with the young woman. This is a result of Lawson’s faulty theology, Lawson needs a double repentance, first of his relationship and secondly of his writings and preaching and his materials, and sadly he has not repented of either. But even if Lawson repents of his false teachings, it would not suffice to save them, so they must be deleted from the internet and Lawson must be erased from the internet and his materials taken down.
"These things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our instruction, on whom the ends of the ages have come. So, whoever thinks he stands must be careful not to fall." 1 Cor. 10:11-12 "Search me, O God and see if there be any unclean thing in me." I really appreciated your comment at the beginning of this video. You said: "Men, if you think this could never happen to you, you're wrong!" We must be ever vigilant and keeping short accounts with the Lord.
I wonder -- is there an "appropriate" sexual relationship with a woman who is not my wife.? Just wondering how I can advise men how to dodge the "sin" designation. Maybe if we get enough 'elders' together we can come up with an answer to avoid the dirty word -- sin. Maybe Steve can designate the woman as his niece.. What do you think.
