STIHL FS-111R VS. ECHO SRM 3020 Comparison [I Expected More]

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In this comparison Video I go over 2 of the preferred trimmers on the market. The ECHO SRM-3020 (30.5cc) and the Stihl FS 111R (31.4cc). Both of these units are very good and honestly its probably gonna come down to dealer support, comfort and features. Let me know in the comments below which do you prefer?
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@campoffthemap8307 3 года назад

I’ve got all echo trimmers on my trailer - 1 SRM225, 2 2620’s and a 3020. My business partner that runs our other crew has all Stihl stuff. We’ve asked our employees and most prefer the Echo and they all say the 3020 is an absolute monster for ditches and overgrown properties. I’ve seen them pretty much race each other to grab it. We also run Darwin grips on all the trimmers and they make a ton of difference.

@SnifterRoux Год назад

If you could only have 1 to use as an all rounder being 85% tidy edging around the yard and 15% light to medium brush, would it be a 2620 or a 3020? The 3020 is on special where I am for less than the 2620 1.36 : 1 gear ratio version)

@campoffthemap8307 Год назад

@@SnifterRoux Personally Id pick the 3020 (the non-t version). It’s nice to have that extra power when you get into thick stuff and I don’t think the weight really slows you down. If it’s only between the 2620 and the 3020t, I’d probably take the 2620. I haven’t been a fan of the t models.

@question1313 3 месяца назад

What's wrong with with those versions @campoffthemap8307

@campoffthemap8307 3 месяца назад

@@question1313 nothing really wrong with them, I just prefer the non t because you get a higher head speed that I feel like results in a cleaner cut.

@THEMOWERMEDIC1 3 года назад

Hands down the echo

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@locallandscapinglawncarel.6328 3 года назад

3020t is way to powerful for every day use, I prefer 2620/2620t for every day use on my business. 3020t is kept and ready when there's a big/tall law. I'm an echo guy and have always used echo.

@jimboneutron8399 2 месяца назад

What do you mean too powerful? Cant you lighten up on the throttle if doing finesse work?

@shepc1169 Месяц назад

@@jimboneutron8399 even with .105 line with no guard it will still rev like it is pulling nothing unless you run super long line. I have to run .130 just to keep the revs down. 3020T is obscenely powerful

@thomko2715 3 года назад

Been waiting for this review forever ! Great vid as always Danny

@717790 2 года назад

Thanks for the video! I ended up replacing my FS 90 R with the 3020 T. Great product! I also noticed the metal clutch housing rather than plastic on these. Really looking forward to not having to deal with four mix and the valve adjustment!

@rellmonger7935 3 года назад

Yeah I just bought echo trimmers last year. Haven't tried them yet. Out of season here in St.Louis. My stihl trimmers I have to pull more then my 2016 Redmax bcz260ts. I own 4 Stihl trimmers fs80, broke. Fs110r runs great burns alot of gas. 2015 Fs130 runs, 2014 Fs250 run sometimes. All of them got maybe 200hrs. My Redmax bcz260ts maybe 280hrs all I can say it runs great. My 2019 Echo hand held blower is what made me try them when my trimmers out of warranty. Runs great

@GrandviewLawnCare 3 года назад

Both seem like great trimmers even though I love echo. Thanks for the honest review Danny

@nicholasedwardbehindtheedg2343 2 месяца назад

I have both brands, like them both but the Stihl is my favorite.

@Mopar-Pioneer 2 года назад

The more reviews I see on the echo product the more I am begining to like them !

@patmason7276 3 года назад

I'll take my 91R sthil any day any time 5 years and its still like new and runs all my attachments. Haven't done anything but gas and go. Just got a 131 R to join the fun!!!!

@robertmatthews5020 3 года назад

Excellent video. Thank you for your unbiased opinion! Have a great day!

@edp9743 3 года назад

Running Echo SRM 2200 30yrs old still going, was commercial use now residential. Stihl FS 90 carb shot no parts, had to retro fit , wall hangar.

@bobwhite4098 Год назад

FS 111 With bike handle badger head with .155 line on 2 1/8 acres some green some tough dry land grass. Cuts sunflowers and Jgrass over my head. Have only made adjustments and changed filters, greased bearing. Have heard neighbors remark about what I can cut down with it. Still running strong

@ricardowoods8133 3 года назад

Great video I'll take the echo I have the 3020 t it's a great weedeater I wish the handle was a little smaller but I can deal with it.

@travisc3571 3 года назад

I have a FS110 from the first year they came out and it seems better than the new Stihl in the video. I have all Echo equipment for my lawn service and today you solved my questions about the new ones. Looks like an upgrade in the very near future. Great video!

@JuanGarcia-kv7yv 3 года назад

Are you staying with the Echo?

@travisc3571 3 года назад

@@JuanGarcia-kv7yv Definitely.

@Axel-tk3tk 3 года назад

I have a 111rx. I like it, it's lighter, it does seem to struggle with the higher stuff but I have a 240r to deal with that. 111rx still handles most overgrown stuff. It does have good fuel consumption. I love how Echo is easier on maintenance, but I would like a sparkpkug cover. I don't mind adjusting valves myself, but it is something to consider. My 111rx is fine for now for the weight vs power. 3020 will be something I consider in a couole of years if the Stihl gives out, thanks for the review.

@lorenzomendoza1476 3 года назад

Yes, my neighbor has a FS240R and it’s a beast I think better than the 111

@marcolopez3438 3 года назад

Wow do you really get 2 year warranty on the Stihl ??? That's weird.... the dealers in South Miami FL are only giving 90 day warranty on the Stihl, a lot of landscapers are switching to echo because the Stihl weedeaters are coming out with problems straight out the show room. In South Miami the grass grows year around so these landscapers put tons of wear and tear into these machines. Stihl was king like 5 years ago, but now with this new model it's just been a big headache and the carb flooding issues and even bogging down. Landscapers take the guard off and run the string long and have no problem with the Echo, in contrast the Stihl's clutch spring would break often when running the string longer the supposed to. Echo > Stihl

@covertdestroyer 3 года назад

90 days is if it’s not for personal/home use. If it’s for personal/home use it comes with 2 and the day you purchase it you have the option to double it to 4 years. As a stihl dealer we don’t sell to many 111’s. We sell more 91’s and 131’s. The power to weigh ratio is better. I’m not the biggest fan of the 4-mix though.

@Scatpack23 3 года назад

Always used stihl trimmers and chainsaws, great equipment, never tried any other brand might try echo weed trimmer now that the season jus started

@noteworthy227 3 года назад

Their trimmers (straight shaft) might be good. I wouldn't waste any money on an echo chainsaw though... can't get any better than a stihl chainsaw

@Jv19979 3 года назад

@@noteworthy227 echo chainsaw is not a waste of money it's all I use now since Stihl quality is junk. Still have my old stihls though

@tanjowil9743 Год назад

Thanks for the review. I am in want of a whipper sniper and hadn't considered the Echo brand but your video have helped me a lot. From Brisbane Australia 🍻

@lylekehrer6159 3 года назад

Looking at the Wal Mart Black Max reviews and saw this. Echo was another brand I was considering. I liked the break down, as far as the comparison between the two. I've had Poulan, but now actually looking for a more ”quality”one

@logansimpson305 3 года назад

Great video I like both trimmers

@gunlover5564 Год назад

I came close to getting an echo. Had full intentions, but I used my father n laws stehl FS-111 with the handlebars and I knew right there and then I wanted one. I don’t regret getting mine.

@gregb1037 3 года назад

I have a 3020t and it shreds! The dual air filters, the speed feed head that holds 25 feet of .95, and the warranty from echo is nice, its a no brainer. My buddy had a sthil and its louder, burns gas quicker, and the head design takes longer to load and hold less string. He sold it and bought the 3020t. German design vs Japanese design. Think about it. Japanese have always made the best small engines

@lostmoose7352 3 года назад

To me Echo sounds more powerful....and according to my experience with Echo chainsaws, it is more powerful than my Stihls. I had many Stihls in Europe, but since I got to know Echo, I dont buy any Stihl any more. This being said, I am German.

@sclawns5257 3 года назад

Good job Danny. The Echo may consume more fuel WHILE it is doing more work.. just saying. Im all in on the ECHO. what you did not mention is throttle modulation. I have the 111rx from stihl and feel that it is nothing or full speed not allowing finese near obstructions and thats in comparision with my ECHO 266T and 2620T and 266 raw. Ergonomics on the ECHO work best for me also. Now i would like to see you do a strapon challenge between the biggest strapon blowers from each. I just wish ECHO made a bigger hand held blower.

@gregb1037 3 года назад

me and my buddy have this friendly little rivalry between out weedeaters. I use echo and he uses sthil. He has the 131 r and i have the 3020t. He always runs out of fuel before me on jobs and we are basically full throttle the whole time while working.

@chriscostlow4210 3 года назад

There's also the 94r stihl if concerned with the valves and it's a pound or 2 lighter. I have the sr 225 and the 131r. I like em both.

@Jv19979 3 года назад

The 91r is actually more powerful

@freedomisntfree_44 2 месяца назад

@@Jv19979it’s a 4 stroke

@Capmybets 3 года назад

Don’t let the stihl sound fool you. It’s got power. Echo looked good I want to try one

@JohnnyMow 3 года назад

Great comparison video.

@LanierLawnCare 3 года назад

Thanks Sir

@josephpuchel6497 2 года назад

Hey I like both but will opt for the ECHO. What’s the thickness of the line do they recommend ? Nice video

@LanierLawnCare 2 года назад

They bot come with .095 but I believe you can do .115ish.

@cartoonkiiller8812 2 года назад

Very Informative ...thank you

@andrewbooher1106 2 года назад

I run echo everything and once the trimmers are broke in you can tune the carb and make them run even better. My tuned pas 2620 will out perform my 3020. I've never heard a trimmer sound this good.

@mikep1584 Год назад

What do you do to tune it? I don’t see any carb adjustment screws on my 3020.

@brandonblack1540 Год назад

I use brand new Stihl 111 on state roads and I love it

@chuckybaby1973 Год назад

I bought the SRM 3020 after using a Stihl for 12 years and I love it. I find the Echo easier to start in my opinion, and I love its power.

@JonsDailyHustle 3 года назад

I am a huge echo guy right now, but I do want to give stihl a try eventually. Great video Danny 🙌

@victorrippe5845 3 года назад

Want an advice from a guy that has worked on lawn equipment for over 35 years don't waist your money stick with echos

@scottjohnson5828 3 года назад

@@victorrippe5845 I just bought the stihl on an impulse buy I regret it now

@victorrippe5845 3 года назад

@@scottjohnson5828 Man that sucks ive always advise guys to buy echos some have listen some have not even echos low end trimmer like the Echo srm225 outlast Stihls high end trimmers echos advantage over stihls is they withstand heat much more then stihls and there internals are superior to stihls i also tell guys if you live up north and you use your trimmer 8 months out the year commercially then go with stihls if you like but for hotter climates like South FL that is none stop mowing all year long go with Echos.

@jeffpadgett6275 3 года назад

I am a echo guy to.

@smallnuts2 3 года назад

@@victorrippe5845 I'm getting a echo leaf blower. For blowing leafs on rock landscaping, is the echo pb800 to powerful? Should I go with a echo 770t? I dont want to be relocating rocks with the blower. Lol

@jamiecrisp5084 3 года назад

I use both STIHL and ECHO to me they are about equal i have 2 fs55Rs,1 fs70R,and 1 ECHO SRM 2620 it really boils down to preference and which one you are comfortable with both are top of the line pieces of equipment STIHL will cost more to maintain than ECHO but get past that and running both can be a great experience i choose my trimmer according to yard size and fuel capacity for that job small yard=fs55r medium yard=fs70r and large yard=srm 2620.

@tanjowil9743 Год назад

Ah thanks, I will look at the fs70R

@romaldothomas8653 Год назад

Great video thanks for sharing

@Photostudioww 3 года назад

Echo srm 225 is all a lawn mowing guy needs. If you need bigger than that you need a brush hog. Been using the 225 for 1 and half seasons now. Just bought a fs56 and I prefer the 225 but they both have their good and bad.

@knightimusprime25 Год назад

that 225 isnt gonna have the power needed to cut taller thicker shit

@easttnlawncare6740 3 года назад

To be honest with you I think I like that better than the 1:30 just for everyday trimming

@dannypatrick6262 2 года назад

Been running stihl for 9 years now and I also have a couple of echos and I can not keep the echos running and before anyone says it’s probably the gas you are running it’s not because I run all 93 in my equipment

@brianburchard1 Год назад

Great video! I go with Stihl because of dealer support. Appreciate the grind. 💪🏾

@nes999 Месяц назад

I didn't think of this, I can walk to my nearest stihl dealer, echo is 30 min. That might sway me.

@jstinnette 3 года назад

Echo for me. Got a SRM-225 that's been great. Also echo blower and chainsaw...I like orange I guess🤷👌

@eugenecrabs3954 3 года назад

We have an early 90's Echo GT-2400 that STILL has more compression than a new Stihl!! And it max takes only 4 pulls to start. Echo is king

@KriegerKrieg 2 года назад

I had a fs131r and still have a 2620t. In tall wet grass they seemed about the same with the 131r maintaining RPMs a lille better. The throttle on the Stihl was disgustingly incapable of modulation. I just wished 3020t wasn't so damn huge, it's like a foot and a half wide at the motor.

@shaneparnell1477 3 года назад

Unless the stihls have changed they used to be junk i had 8 of them and everyone of the shafts broke. Ive never had any luck out of their chainsaws or blowers either they dont last long if u use them alot. Ive got an echo weedeater thats been a good one we've used it to mow 130 properties a week for the last 4 years no trouble besides replacing the coil. We've had the best luck with maruyama weedeaters they seem to last forever.

@eugenecrabs3954 3 года назад

We have an early 90's Echo GT-2400 that STILL has more compression than a new Stihl!! And it max takes only 4 pulls to start. Echo is king

@easttnlawncare6740 3 года назад

They both are very good weed eaters in my book they're almost equal that is a very good comparison that one pound difference I don't think you're going to notice on the echo

@harryerhart5978 3 года назад

I've been a Stihl customer way back when I've switched to echo because there's no carburetor or starting problems nice video Danny

@Photostudioww 3 года назад

My first new echo srm 225 has carb problems from the beginning. It ran too rich. I pull the plug so I can tune it down and now it's running better. I could have taken it to the dealership but I don't have time for that I lose money. We will see how long it last . Bought it in 2020.

@christopherhamm1574 2 года назад

Had an Echo SRM2110 for 20+ years of hard use and very dependable service. Have an Echo chainsaw and shredder/vac. All have been trouble free. Just bought another srm266 trimmer. Why switch brands.

@mrcharlot54 3 года назад

Nice vidéo thanks !

@grassyfieldz4578 2 года назад

I cant say for sure because I haven't seen an echo in person but their shaft looks like it is more solidly connected to the engine. I got a stihl fs 70r and its great, but how the shaft is connected to the engine looks flimsy and if i was to accidentally lightly step on it or something i think it'd break.

@michaelmactavish1728 3 года назад

i use mostually all stihl but getting a 52cc chikura unit

@tonyslawncare 3 года назад

Great comparison bro. I adjust my own stihl valves takes 15mins

@atlantapowerwashingsolutio7420 Год назад

We for our landscape company the 111 and 91 amd 131 are kings 🤴

@diyguybz6191 Год назад

I've got a Stihl Fs 90 for ten years. I swapped the carb out for a Fs 130 carb. It turned into a whole new beast. What I've learned, don't use the stihl oil. It's good oil, but leaves too much carbon. I run Lucas SemiSynthetic 2 stroke oil, fc fd class. I add about 100mls of seafoam to every gallon of fuel mix. For anyone else, run a good quality oil, can't go wrong.

@adamholbrook2281 Год назад

Thanks for the review. I was surprised by the Echo/ Husqvarna. I had the 111 in mind, but I think after seeing this and the maint issues with stihl (valves) I will stick to Husky/ Echo. Will look into the price difference too. The 111 did not seem to have the RPMs of the echo and did seem to lag in your test.

@stevew3978 3 месяца назад

I find Echo engines extremely hard to pull start. The Echo 2060 has very inadequate compression release during pulling. It takes a very quick and sharp pull to get it started. If it doesn't start after one pull, the second pull becomes much harder because of the built-up pressure in the cylinder from the first pull. Pulling the Echo engine hurts my hand so much. In comparison to my Echo 2060, my Maruyama is a dream to pull start.

@raulchavarria7446 3 года назад

Echo definitely has more power. More power equals less straining for you. Common sense, the machine does the work, not you. You’ll feel the difference after a long day of gardening and be thankful you owned that Echo.

@santizoslawncare8084 Год назад

Stihl makes AMAZING chain saws. Which we run. However everything else string trimmers, blowers, hedge trimmers etc. We prefer ECHO all the way Great video by the way

@shanepipkin4041 2 года назад

what's your thoughts on the 111rx it's a pound lighter

@deecee2837 Месяц назад

That one pound savings comes at the expense of a lighter, less robust drive shaft that is not rated to run metal bladed for brush-cutting.

@zerocool212121 3 года назад

I have always been told to just go with the next one up 131 not the 111 its power to weight is so much more. You dont need to adjust the valves that much and when you do its very simple and you should do it yourself. Id only adjust it when it has issues if it runs great dont fuck with it its that simple. My 131 and br800 have a couple years on them and havent had to be touched fwiw. Stihl gets better fuel imo and the 131 still weighs less with more hp. Dealer support should be your first thing but if you do the stihl get the 131 or drop down to the 91 or 94, if you want a pure 2 stroke from stihl you will pay more but the 240 is your ticket :) 4mix vs 2 stroke the 2 stroke will always feather the throttle easier so if you cant do that well might stick with a pure 2 stroke, trying them out is the best way to see dont take my word for it.

@aodhmacraynall8932 2 года назад

Si, I'm Mexican and only 3 feet 4 inches tall I have a Stihl and I feel that I can set the handle back further than the Echo and it makes it easier to balance it when doing all day jobs. Ole!

@sebastianpinto6514 Год назад

Thank you sir 🙏

@atlantapowerwashingsolutio7420 Год назад

Weve added the edgit pros and Darwin grips to all of them the guys love them

@georgemullin7772 Месяц назад

Is the echo a solid shaft because the sthill is.

@ccmogs5757 Месяц назад

No , thinking you have to go up to the SRM310 for the solid shaft .

@matthewswan649 3 года назад

You did do some good explaining but me personally I fell more comfortable with echo

@braddenr.4778 3 года назад

I use my 94r Stihl quite often for my business in larger taller lots and it doesn’t struggle like your 111 did. And my 111r certainly doesn’t struggle in equal circumstances. Even taller vegetation on .95 string. My 94 hasn’t even bogged on me with all kinds of crap wrapped around the head through super tall stuff. Weird.

@Capmybets 3 года назад

I know right I have 55, 90 and the 130. 90r which is a little smaller than the 111 is almost too much power for regular stuff. I use the 90 in ditches and tall grass because the 130 will literally launch shit on to oncoming traffic at full throttle. Hell even the 55 kicks ass.

@braddenr.4778 3 года назад

@@Capmybets yeah, there’s no middle ground with the 111. It’s either no power or too much, not a good candidate for residential lol. My 94 is a jack of all trades, light, super powerful, can cut tall grass on banks all day and I can use it everywhere I cut. Not to mention the 111 is quite a bit heavier. I have a 55 too, exceptional power to weight on that one. Pretty impressive thing.

@braddenr.4778 3 года назад

@@Capmybets I was tempted on the 130 but for the same reason you stated. It’s a desert eagle to a stick fight lol.

@Capmybets 3 года назад

@@braddenr.4778 yeah unless your in the business or have large property you don’t need the 130. Your 111 and 94 is the perfect 2 to have in your garage. Thanks

@aaroninks 2 года назад

Shindaiwa/ Echo. My Shindaiwa equipment is over 20 years old. Purchased in 1998. They are finally showing signs of age. The fuel lines are rotting as is the pickup inside the tank. I’ve used and abused them. All have original air cleaner lol. They get a new spark plug once every ten years or so. The 230 trimmer is blue (anniversary edition) it has had a couple new string trimmer heads put on over the years, and the pole shaft has wallowed out so the head is sloppy. I have a blower, edger, power broom, trimmer all purchased around 1998. Although the power room is older I bought it from a tool rental years used. I have two Shindaiwa chainsaws that are a few years newer. All start on 2nd or 3rd pull and always first pull once warmed up. Best starting chain saws you can own. No ten pull BS here… I’d put them up against any orange machines twice their size. I won’t own anything else.

@sunnydelight4991 3 года назад

Echo and Shindaiwa nice if you buy new...and take care of it ... never buy used, but I’m throughly Shindaiwa blowers and maruyama trimmers. I own a stihl fs110r but rarely use got used. Works good

@LanierLawnCare 3 года назад

Never used a maruyama or even seen one around here. Would like to try one.

@sunnydelight4991 3 года назад

@@LanierLawnCare they are really nice. 100% Japanese

@seabass22 3 года назад

@@LanierLawnCare all my dad runs and he is somehow extremely hard on equipment. Rarely has issues out of them and he doesn’t even run the top of the line. He still running his two originals and won’t use anything else. If I go to get a new one, it’ll probably be a maruyama. They high though.

@nothanks3462 3 года назад

Used Echo equipment has been some of my best purchases! Got to know what you're looking at and be careful like any purchase, but people pay a lot more for the Stihl name.

@sunnydelight4991 3 года назад

@@nothanks3462 I have an echo 230 I bought used and you right, it got me through a season but isn’t really at peak performance but definitely a back up, backup!

@timw6281 Год назад

the stihl 4mix engine not only runs on less gas but completely burns all the fuel vs the echo which can have up to 30% bypass gas oil mix going into the atmosphere where the stihl is a complete burn...stihl has a foam outer elenent and a fiber second element...only difference is both filters are attached to each other vs seperate with the echo...the stihl has a lot more low end torque vs the echo needs to run in higher rpms for the same cutting force...

@302vettelife2 2 года назад

I may have missed it in the video, but were you using the line that came with the trimmers? If so, Stihl trimmer line is complete garbage. I'm assuming the Echo had black diamond on it. A curved shaft craftsman with Black Diamond will out trim most with junk line.

@stephenparchewski1998 Месяц назад

Good video. I have a KM130, which has a bigger engine than the Stihl in your video. One thing that I love about my KM130 is the torque that it has compared to a 2 stroke. For real thick grass, it really shines. I put between 75 and 100 hours on it per year. In 13 years, that’s a lot of hours. I adjusted the valves once, and they’ve stayed in spec after that. Otherwise, the only repair has been a carb replacement, so I can’t complain.

@MilesG6010 Год назад

I like echo, I have a old srm230 and it’s still going strong

@DoctorRickSanchez 3 года назад

Echo for me adjusting valves are a hell of a lot easier and it's a pound lighter with the same power.

@firstname6208 3 года назад

I have the .105 line on the 3020t,. I have the .095 line on the 2620 and I have .080 line on the 233 echo. All are great for their purpose. I also have the 410u for hoggin the brush. That is a beast. Has compression release so you can spin it over. It can cut a 2"sapling in a second. Never owned a stihl, can't knock em, some like em , whatever works for u.

@shepc1169 Месяц назад

echo 3020T owner here and that damned thing is a BEAST!!!!

@user-fl7qo4oc2f 2 года назад

Hello I'm interested because it's a machine that can't be purchased in Japan. I want it if I can buy it.

@markclark1605 2 года назад

Valve adjustment takes only 7 minutes. I like two strokes as well. Sthil uses the four mix engines because of the epa regulations. Two stroke engines release more emissions. Both are good trimmers for sure. Both of them will be phased out with the electric models in the near future.

@brandonlewis5045 2 года назад

No they wont! Its impossible to be all electric or battery powered bud!

@joshslawnlandscape9935 3 года назад

Nice video Danny! 2 solid machines no doubt. How much do you think RPM rate varied from the 2 stroke to the 4 stroke? Also, it looked like you were using different line types on the machines...may make some difference as well. Excellent video though brother, keep it up and Happy New Year!

@LanierLawnCare 3 года назад

I just used what they both came stock with. I feel the 111R ramps up faster but I would say both seem to spin about the same. It’d be hard to honestly say without checking rpm as the stihl is quieter than the echo so it makes it hard to judge

@davidpavely4539 2 года назад

I prefer my echo. I agree with what you have noticed. Also ypu have to cut off the vibration sleeve on the stihl

@michaelhoffman1951 2 года назад

You are correct the 111 does sound like it was struggling

@Redneck1234-e9y 2 месяца назад

Hands down the stihl!!!!!

@timeversman9804 3 года назад

I just bought a fs111 bicycle handle. The only reason being a closer dealer.

@frank23894 Год назад

Wouldn't it be fairer if the 3020 was against the 131?

@deecee2837 Месяц назад

The fs131 is in a different, higher price range (>$500). It is the same trimmer as the fs111, except for having slightly more power. It possibly equals the 3020, power-wise, but the 4-mix engine problems & maintenance requirements remain. Even lifelong Stihl fans, including me, lament them replacing their legendary 2-stroke models (such as the FS250) with these 4-mix engines. Even their over-priced replacement 2-strokers aren't as good - being heavier & less powerful in actual use. Hence, many professionals are moving away from modern Stihl trimmers. It's commonly blamed on EPA & EU regulations, but Echo (& others) seem to have adjusted to the stricter requirements more efficiently without the sacrifice of usable power, increased maintenance, & reliability.

@georgea2334 3 года назад

Don't forget the Stihl requires you to use THEIR oil and requires much more maintenence. The Echo will cost less to operate overall. The Echo speed feed head is the best in the marketplace. Stihl is cheaper to purchase, but more expensive to own.

@LanierLawnCare 3 года назад

Very good point

@Patriotusa44 3 года назад

Been part of the mowing of the mowing business for a long time. The majority of the time using Stihl equipment. And the oil that they sell is pretty good and I did use it for a while until I found a better value. Lucas weed eater oil has been amazing and it comes in a bigger bottle for less. Been using ever since with no problems at all. Still use it to this day.

@andybub45 2 года назад

“Much more maintenance” the only thing you have to do differently than the echo is the valve adjustment, which is super easy.

@tylervanwormer8302 Год назад

You are very uneducated

@TheMoparGarage 2 года назад

I think a more fair comparison would be the 131 vs the 3020 no?

@wpghockey4631 Год назад

Stihl would win this comparison is paid for by echo why do you think they gave him a 111 vs 3020. Also note echo is a 2 stroke vs stihl's 4 stroke. This makes many stats hard to compare.

@michael-ki4sr 3 года назад

Echo all day

@KenMrKLC 3 года назад

I will take the Husqvarna 525L over either of these. The only thing I prefer on the echo is the trigger being solid as I have broken off a few triggers that are not by getting caught on something. Husq is a good deal lighter and I love the powerband

@LanierLawnCare 3 года назад

Husqvarna is worst trimmer I’ve ever owned.

@KenMrKLC 3 года назад

@@LanierLawnCare why? I have been running Husq for 18 years with other brands mixed in. What did you not like

@andybecker2693 3 года назад

@@KenMrKLC In his review of the 525ls he said if he took the guard off and lengthened the line to 20”” it bogged like crazy. That didn’t happen on his Echo 2620.

@andybecker2693 3 года назад

@@KenMrKLC Also the 525L is the box store version. The LS and LST can only be bought at a dealer.

@KenMrKLC 3 года назад

@@andybecker2693 What are you talking about? 525L is professional use unit. the 325L is a homeowner model you may find only at box store. Regardless there are prob 10 different models in all price ranges. Never felt low on power any unit I have used. If you want 30cc go with the 430LS still a pound lighter and same price. Their new 535LS is 35cc if you want power, and still weighs same or less than the Echo tank. I am actually ordering parts now for my 2620 echo power head because its a piece of plastic holding the carb on the motor as well as the throttle bracket at the carb which both snapped off. I have never had anything break on my Husky trimmers except the trigger

@erikabanuelos2299 3 года назад

I am going to go with the stihll because echo didn’t make 4 ciycol I have a 4 ciiycol

@whyme7470 Год назад

Try the Shindaiwa 302T. 20 inch cut width w/guard. I run the Shindaiwa 262T for everyday triming.

@SnifterRoux Год назад

If you could only have 1 would you choose a T303TS (1.62 : 1) or a T263XS (1.36 : 1)? The T303TS is on special where I am for less than the smaller T263XS. 85% will be neat edging around the garden and the other 15% for light to medium light brush.

@whyme7470 Год назад

@@SnifterRoux the 303TS if the price is better.

@noteworthy227 3 года назад

Stihl all day every day, twice a day, 6 times on Sunday. Built better, longer lifespan, easier to find parts, and unless you mistreat it or leave it outside for extended periods, will start right up and last a lifetime. Plus stihls resale value is great compared to echo

@Jv19979 3 года назад

Took my equipment to the Stihl dealer. And it's actually cheaper to buy a new one. Kinda stupid because I don't want the new ones. The 2 mix engine are stupid. Also the stihls you got to take the whole thing apart to replace the pull string or air filter. The echo is 4 screws for pull string. The echo tool less air filter easier string head better cutting. Also 5 year warranty.

@markclark1605 2 года назад

Sthil uses the 4mix engines for protecting the environment. I like the two srokes also. Sthil puts alot of emphasis on the environment. It's coming with the green deal for the environment very soon. Be ready for electric trimmers mowers blowers etc. In 2024 in California will be the first state abandoning gas powered small engines. Ouch!

@LuisGonzales-hb8ug 3 года назад

Hands down with the echo

@demetricwalker123 3 года назад

Echo all the way

@demetricwalker123 3 года назад

I have one for 2 year that same model

@eugenecrabs3954 3 года назад

We have an early 90's Echo GT-2400 that STILL has more compression than a new Stihl!! And it max takes only 4 pulls to start. Echo is king

@keithinthemountains6450 3 года назад

I have a fs111r but have not been happy with it. It just seems so labored while using it and also its unbalanced when using. Its not like the old Stihls! I really want a 3020 !!! I have a srm225 and very happy with it but also need a larger machine.

@davidbell6317 2 года назад

I have the FS111R Sthl and I have had to take it back to dealer twice for bad running. In gas Tank filter was bad and the carb was out of wack. Do not like the Head on the sthl. for the amount of $ you pay needs to come with a speed feed head instead of the piece of crap head! Not real happy with this sthl weedeater. Im not sure in the future I will hesitate the purchase of any Sthl products. I woukd like to see you do a Shindawa vs Echo trimmer?

@kengray5793 3 года назад

I don’t know how the speed feed head works. I expected more.....

@joegorman862 3 года назад

The new echo srm 410x is a 42 cc trimmer

@allaboutroofing2 3 года назад

In a Tim Allen voice...arrrr arrrr arrrr!

@brianocdgarner7184 3 года назад

Boom!

@douglashundley6777 3 года назад

Echo came out with the srm410x

@wherenorthbegins7831 2 года назад

I’m an Echo guy, use several Echo products for our Select Lawn Care MN and have never had any problems. #wherenorthbegins #selectlawncaremn

@benjaminleslie3155 3 года назад

The review almost ended right there 6:54 👀

@ybthegoat63 2 года назад

i wish i got the 3020 but the 225 is still a great trimmer

@KenMrKLC 3 года назад

What you did not see is Danny just beat down a guy on the other side of the truck in the beginning of the video... He was a Husqvarna fan like me.

@rumplestiltskin4113 3 года назад

u called it, it did sound like the 111 was struggling...unless my ears are going which I wouldn't doubt(😅)....it look like the echo cut faster...next up the 3020T...