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ECHO SRM-2620T vs STIHL FS90R LINE TRIMMER COMPARISON 

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See the comparison video where I put the Echo head-to-head against the Stihl. I have the high torque Echo Srm-2620T going against the Stihl FS90R. Please watch the entire video and share your thoughts. I would like to know what one you would choose?
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@thomaslopez2427
@thomaslopez2427 2 года назад
I personally don’t think you can go wrong with either one. I use the Echo and it has never let me down. One major positive for the Echos are they have a 5 year warranty compared to Stihl’s 2 year warranty.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 2 года назад
Yes, good point.
@zachsowell8845
@zachsowell8845 Год назад
For home use, for commercial use the Echo goes down to 2 years
@pillcosby3949
@pillcosby3949 Месяц назад
@@zachsowell8845and your point?
@NoName-py2dh
@NoName-py2dh 24 дня назад
@@MarkThomasBuilderI have both of these. love them both - but for me I prefer the echo. But rate them both.
@volli56
@volli56 11 месяцев назад
I had a model older than this one that I love. My sister has difficulty with tools that are too heavy and she actually loved mine and found it easy to use ru-vid.comUgkx_rBCFuDW1zD6blTGhLkvAkxU657uR_lG . This is a newer model but was even lighter which she really appreciates. She enjoys it and I no longer have to go to her house to trim as she can handle it fine. Haven't used it enough to comment on the battery life but lithium batteries last longer than the old style. Being cordless makes it easy to trim the far edges of the property. The entire yard can be trimmed with one charged battery.
@DSwenson900
@DSwenson900 2 года назад
Wow, was I impressed. I recently bought the Echo 2620T. Couldn't wait to start it up and give it a try, I fueled it and followed the instructions. The beast fired up on the 4th pull for its maiden run. Keeping the speed down, I edged our lawn, and trimmed the few areas my mower can't get into. I called it a Beast, because it is one. I had first ordered the 2320T, and was disappointed that it wouldn't cut our St. Augustine grass runners. Sending it back, I then ordered the 2620T, and what a difference. I also installed a timer on my new beast, and to date, I have run it now for 10.7 minutes. I'm not going to use full power till I reach 25 minutes, but then I haven't had to either. This beast is beautiful, and worth every penny. I highly recommend the Echo brand, because if all their gas engines run as well as my new 2620T trimmer, I will no longer use my old FS55R Stihl. It was good, but then I didn't have anything else to compare it with. Now that I do, I won't be going back to Stihl. I'm also running Ethanol Shield now mixed in my 5 gallon gas container. Life is beautiful in my two yards.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing. It's good to hear in depth experiences with both brands. My 2620T is still going strong, by the way.🙌
@jeffervin9401
@jeffervin9401 4 года назад
I own that Echo trimmer and have found it to be the best one I have ever had. It is a beast and goes through anything and doesn't complain. First trimmer that I have kept the factory line feed system on. The Echo string is the best, sometimes I will trim for almost an hour and never feed new line out. Since I got this trimmer I have been converting other thing to Echo and have not been disappointed.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 4 года назад
That's awesome! I like their Black Diamond line.
@mattcruz4837
@mattcruz4837 Год назад
Me to!!
@LansingLawnServiceLLC
@LansingLawnServiceLLC 7 лет назад
The comparison was pretty close to even except you took the echo right done the middle of the thick grass while you did not do the same with the stihl. You also went over the Echo side twice while only going over the stihl side once. If I had to choose I would choose the Echo. I bought an Echo trimmer from Home Depot two years ago and haven't had a single problem or issue with it. It trimmers about 55 yards a week including edging. Echo all the way all day!
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 7 лет назад
That's an impressive amount. Thanks for the feedback of your Echo experience.
@mariofranco2583
@mariofranco2583 5 лет назад
What mower do you use?
@pappas1000
@pappas1000 5 лет назад
55 yards a week? So you do more than 9 a day?!? Based on a 6 day week??
@strykerv1620
@strykerv1620 5 лет назад
@@pappas1000 solo if you get route density up can do 15 - 20 yards a day. so 55 could be 15 a day over 4 days.
@Hugeroost
@Hugeroost 5 лет назад
I'd like to comment on LLS comment. I say your exaggerating here ole buddy, I've had a lawn service in SE Texas for 30 years, we now year round, normally do around 100 a week so I can surely see your 55, but doing 50+ a week ain't happening w no home depot echo, man those things wont hold up at all. I have Mexicans running my equipment, they are really hard on stuff, a Stihl is the only thing that will hang with them, they can't tear em up. I have tried echo several times over the years, even just buying one and keeping it for personal use, they just won't hold up period. When they run they do good, but that's a big IF, that new 4-mix Stihl makes is damm near indestructible, next time you buy get you that 131, you can thank me later
@lanceadams2774
@lanceadams2774 5 лет назад
thats a good comparison. I'd be happy with either although I'd lean toward the echo because it has a greater fuel capcity so you don't have to refuel so often. Thanx for your effort - it's probably the best - non-bias video I've seen
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 5 лет назад
Thanks, I tried to make the comparison as fair as possible.
@JonsDailyHustle
@JonsDailyHustle 3 года назад
So far I've just been running echo and love them. I put them through hell every week and they keep going so far
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 3 года назад
Awesome, I'm definitely happy with mine as well.
@civildk9077
@civildk9077 3 года назад
9 years, 11 miles of road, 7 parks, 5 wells, 1x 3500 plot cemetery.. 4 echo trimmers, replaced all 4, once... most likely from 3 things, abused running wide open, fuel too lean (burnt cylinder) or ran over by a truck... if I recall correctly.
@ForgeKnife
@ForgeKnife 5 лет назад
I have a 30 year old echo trimmer, it still runs like new and it’s a good thing since parts are no longer available. Also still using an echo power pruner that is about 25 years old.
@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176
@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176 Год назад
Good to hear! My echo trimmer is 40+ years old and works great also. Five years ago my clutch went bad and was able to get a new clutch and throttle trigger. I can get both today if I am willing to wait. Echo online's (out of Florida) prices are great. Do you have the original head on your power pruner. I bought mine when there was no auto oiler. Went thru 2 heads and added two more power pruners. Did you get the 4 ft. extension for it? Hope yours run for many more years.
@Zach-sg5uu
@Zach-sg5uu 2 месяца назад
@@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176 Modern power plants will be unlikely to last more than 20/25 years definitely not 35 or 40!
@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176
@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176 2 месяца назад
@@Zach-sg5uu I wish you were wrong. I hate that they complicate the carb adjustment screws with these outlandish screwdrivers we have to buy.
@Zach-sg5uu
@Zach-sg5uu 2 месяца назад
@@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176 Why do you have to be sarcastic?!
@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176
@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176 2 месяца назад
@@Zach-sg5uu I don't understand. I was stating my opinion in the negative: I think today's quality is not nearly as good as many years ago. Ergo agreeing with your statement.
@brittthomas7618
@brittthomas7618 4 года назад
I've got an ECHO SRM-266S, & it's an absolute beast; especially w/ the Samurai Fury line. I love it. Nice vid!
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 4 года назад
I've been happy with the ECHO trimmer's power, ever since the start of using them.
@brittthomas7618
@brittthomas7618 4 года назад
Line suggestions?
@Fottoamatore
@Fottoamatore 3 года назад
As a former professional user (did a lot of landscaping and gardens maitenance while at university) shindaiwa (same as echo machines) was my choice when i bought my brushcutter for "domestic" use. My T260 (26cc) stood my abuse fighting weekly mediterranean maquis, cistus, heater, bramble bushes and so on, weed is the lightest thing it cut, for 20 years. So, if it never fails on me, it will be replaced by shindaiwa or echo.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 3 года назад
Interesting to hear that. I'm very happy with my ECHO outdoor equipment as well. They're built to last.💯💪
@jose77460
@jose77460 2 года назад
In P.R. still the price is more expense over $600. I like more eco
@stephenott9089
@stephenott9089 4 года назад
I've owned a small lawn care business for 15 years and still have 2 Echo machines running from the beginning. All I have done to my equipment is use non-ethanol fuel (91 octane), Echo brand 2-stroke oil, added Stabil to the fuel. Prior to storing for winter ran the engine till warm, drained fuel from tank, started till engine dies. Never any issues. Solid equipment.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 4 года назад
That's good to hear! Sounds like solid advice for winter storage.
@dbod4866
@dbod4866 4 года назад
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@joshuautley8415
@joshuautley8415 6 лет назад
I’m having a hard time deciding which trimmer to purchase. I’m looking at a Stihl FS 70 R, or another pro series model, or echo. Any suggestions?
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
I use ECHO and Stihl on a weekly basis. Both are reliable and do a great job. If you're looking for an ECHO product, I suggest the SRM-2620 Pro Extreme.
@chadharmon7563
@chadharmon7563 6 лет назад
Husqvarna is the best.
@roemartin6893
@roemartin6893 5 лет назад
You totally missed the main difference. The line feed for the Echo is the best in the industry. One would have thought that the one item most used would have been in the review.
@patmason7276
@patmason7276 5 лет назад
Stihl has quick feed head and I have a pile of attachments to do more than ono echo. Have more toque and better fuel economy that's why echo has a bigger tank.
@andrewsobek2386
@andrewsobek2386 4 года назад
I run the Echomatic head on a SRM 225. It's STUPID how simple and easy to use that head is. It's all of 2 pieces: the outer shell on your weed-eater, and an inner spool with attached spring. Twist and rotate to remove, twist and rotate to replace. Holds plenty of .095" or even .105" inch line. I'll never buy a different head ever again!!
@Paisteboy
@Paisteboy 4 года назад
I'm sure the Echo is amazing too but I can only speak to the FS 90R that I've had since 2012 and Stihl starts and runs like it's brand new! Love it!
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 4 года назад
Mine also does a great job of starting. It's needing an adjustment for a slight miss at top speed. I'm sure there's a RU-vid video for that.
@chucknorris8759
@chucknorris8759 3 года назад
My favorite was definitely the echo I can’t believe it had a smaller engine and it’s performance was better I will definitely buy an echo
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 3 года назад
The engine really revs up high and keeps going through the tall stuff very well.
@jjruparcic
@jjruparcic 7 лет назад
I currently own an electronic echo and love it. My favorite feature is how the line is loaded!
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 7 лет назад
I like the Echo Speed Feed Head. Very innovative!
@AnimauxdeCampagne
@AnimauxdeCampagne 5 лет назад
All my garden tools are Stihl. I did try Husqvarna, which is a rather known brand but did not make it. For me Stihl, german brand is known for quality and reliability. Stihl has wont me over for quality and relialibity.
@michaelmactavish1728
@michaelmactavish1728 5 лет назад
mine mostually all stihls kombi systems and sh86 blower
@CC-mf4kl
@CC-mf4kl 6 лет назад
I swear by my 2620T trimmer and my Shindaiwa LE254 edger. Both have been extremely reliable.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
Thanks for the info!
@dcyphrz8532
@dcyphrz8532 2 года назад
I got a 2320T last year. Cleaned out a ditch with Black Diamond 95 line and it was amazing. My neighbor’s kid runs a 2620T for his lawn care business. He’s the one who turned me on to Echo stuff.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 2 года назад
This video is about 5 years old now and the comments started out with everyone voting for Stihl. I discovered a shift in votes for ECHO about 2-3 years ago. The word is getting out on how well they compete.
@mattd8411
@mattd8411 4 года назад
I love the echo used Redmax,stihl,husqvarna and shindaiwa. My two favorite is shindaiwa and echo which are basically the same. I can do 9 good size yards on one tank and refill my line in seconds without beating the head to death trying to get it to feed. That speed head is definitely a game changer. Good video man stay safe.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 4 года назад
Thanks man, I'm a big fan of the speed feed head as well. I'm going to put it on my Stihl trimmer.
@daviddavis5689
@daviddavis5689 6 лет назад
I have one of each. The echo has more torque and stihl more RPMs. Both work well but love the Echo head. Other than that its that Echo parts are available on line at lower prices compared to Stihl at authorized dealers and more expensive. Have also owned e several of each since 70's and they last equally as long. Both good just which models are on sale when I buy.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
I have a new Echo Speed Feed head, still in the package. I plan to test it out on my Husqvarna and Stihl trimmer and see how it attaches and if the RPMs increase.
@gregbrock9296
@gregbrock9296 5 лет назад
I’ve owned stihl and echo. I live on a small farm. Use both and beat both to death. The stihl is not made nearly as good as the echo. I switched to echo and have only bought 1. If I can’t tear one up then it can’t be tore up. Echo all day.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 5 лет назад
Wow, that's interesting to hear. I've had good luck with both trimmers, but haven't used them in extreme conditions.
@MotivatedMetalworks
@MotivatedMetalworks 5 лет назад
My FIL bought a Stihl fs90 in the early 90's, and it's still going despite 20 years of ethanol crap gas. It doesn't get used all that much, so it's not wore out. It doesn't hold a candle to my Echo 42cc brush cutter, but that makes sense since the Echo is 14cc's larger. What's interesting is that the Echo uses less fuel for the same amount of work when it's a larger engine. The Echo also starts easier cold and hot running the same non-ethanol mix. I run 40:1 on the fatter side in all my 2-strokes. 50:1 is an EPA compromise and is too dry for my liking. Bottom ends need oil for long bearing life and cooling. What's interesting in your comparison is that the Echo didn't bog and has the smaller engine. If you consider your concern for breaking the line as it slowed your attack, the Echo actually out cut the Stihl. Echo's always been reluctant to post HP ratings, so you can't use that data. But you failed to mention their 3yr commercial and 5yr homeowner warranty vs Stilh's 1yr. I have 2 Echo chainsaws in the 35cc class and the 42cc brush cutter. They range from 3 to 9 years old, and have all been flawless. Stihl's lower end homeowner machines don't compare favorably in the long run. They're just not designed as well or built as robust. I put a brush blade on the FS90 and the shaft flexed when hitting saplings despite it being the same diameter as the Echo's. The Stihl was sold with the brush blade and guard as factory. In fact, it's poor performance with the brush blade is what made me buy the Echo. Stihl and Husqvarna's comparable brush cutters are hundreds more vs the Echo in the same engine class. Stihl does make some great stuff, but you end up paying a lot more for it. When you get into large chainsaws, Echo doesn't offer them (at least not in the US), and Husqvarna and Stihl end up a lot closer price wise, CC for CC.
@esgp2868
@esgp2868 5 лет назад
Which echo model did you buy? Thanks
@MotivatedMetalworks
@MotivatedMetalworks 5 лет назад
@@esgp2868 srm-410u
@michaelmactavish1728
@michaelmactavish1728 5 лет назад
km131r is the monster 36.3cc biggest weed wacker on market
@Methodical2
@Methodical2 6 лет назад
Have you used the brush cutting kit with the Echo? Thoughts
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
Not yet, but plan on making a video with it this summer. I've talked with someone who owns the Stihl Kombi and they swear by the 3 blade cutter over the other ones. I've seen it in action and it cleared right through the tall weeds.
@powis8935
@powis8935 4 года назад
Hey there, I do have a question about your stats? How bout ease of use? Which string trimmer did you feel was easier to handle and manuver? I own Shindaiwa and Red Max trimmers I love my red max because it is so light and easy to handle. Thank you. Lindy from Virginia Beach Va
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 4 года назад
That's a good question. I've found that I get used to running one and then when I grab another, it feels awkward for a few moments. I've basically used these 2 trimmers and a Husqvarna over the years and they all feel a little different and take a minute to get used to when switching. I think the ECHO is balanced a little better for my height and usage style.
@Termite159
@Termite159 7 лет назад
I think the Echo sounded like it had more power. I have an Echo SRM 265S. I'm looking for a new unit. Have been doing some comparative research online with RedMax vs. Maruyama vs. Shindaiwa vs. Echo. I've tried Stihls and I prefer otherwise.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 7 лет назад
Thanks for voting! I haven't tried Maruyama or Shindawa yet.
@agoushy74
@agoushy74 7 лет назад
Termite159 yeah, I have a 266s, and I love it! Recommend redmax all the way, or new echo: top two brands for weed eaters are those.
@Termite159
@Termite159 7 лет назад
Thanks Alexander! I actually ended up with a Maruyama BC2621CA. It's a 25.4 CC, straight shaft that is very light in terms of weight but has great power, a quick reloading head, near zero vibration and a 5 year commercial warranty. I've had it about 6 weeks and am very happy so far.
@carsonchaney950
@carsonchaney950 6 лет назад
markthomasbuilder Kinda late and I figured I would point out that Shindawa makes that Echo trimmer just an FYI.
@Thelivinglifeshow
@Thelivinglifeshow 6 лет назад
I use Echo products and I’ve never had any problems. I have the SRM-225 and the CS-590 Timber wolf chainsaw. Love them both.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
Sounds like my experience too. I'm doing a tree cleanup today and know the ECHO saw will come through for me.
@fernandodelasancha6328
@fernandodelasancha6328 5 лет назад
Can you please compare also with husqvarna I about to make the change , I've owned the husqvarna weed trimmer 128LD for 7 years until now I'm experiencing some problems. Don't know which one to get next. Thank you very much.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 5 лет назад
I ran the Husqvarna 223L for years. I'm a fan of them as well. I see what I can do to make another comparison.
@fernandodelasancha6328
@fernandodelasancha6328 5 лет назад
@@MarkThomasBuilder thank you very much for your quick response, I appreciate it.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 5 лет назад
You bet!
@blertonjaha9060
@blertonjaha9060 5 лет назад
Have you had chance to test Model# SRM-410U?! I wanted to buy it but wont until someone gives me some thoughts about it
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 5 лет назад
Brad from Copper Creek, here on RU-vid, has reviewed an ECHO U style trimmer. I own 3 ECHO trimmers and happy with them all.
@treemanpierson8865
@treemanpierson8865 5 лет назад
I bought my wife a echo trimmer with easy start it's the best trimmer I've ever had won't buy anything else but echo they are so much better than sthil there's no comparison trust me I own a small engine shop I work on them for a living I know what I'm talking about
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 5 лет назад
Wow, that's interesting to hear. ECHO power equipment has always come through for me.
@alexanderbarrera9140
@alexanderbarrera9140 4 года назад
Echo is my favorite. Have you ever tried a Toro weedeater. Was curious about em.
@victorrippe5845
@victorrippe5845 7 лет назад
Both trimmers are really good i don't own the echo 2620 we use the echo srm266 and the stihl fs90r both are very dependable in my company the echos are less maint then the stihl fs90 we have to adjust the valves on them every year its very easy to do but echos and stihl is all we use here in south fla.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 7 лет назад
Cool! What oil do you mix with your fuel? I switched to Echo Red Armor.
@victorrippe5845
@victorrippe5845 7 лет назад
markthomasbuilder i use nothing but echo oil not red armor and sometimes husqavarna oil exp we use the heck out of my trimmers 6 days a week all year around.
@agoushy74
@agoushy74 7 лет назад
Victor Rippe yeah man! I have a echo 266s and I love it!!!!!
@victorrippe5845
@victorrippe5845 7 лет назад
Alexander Goushy yeah man they are really reliable in my company i just got the 2620 its awesome it has a little more power then the 266
@1d1hamby
@1d1hamby 6 лет назад
Don't forget to tighten the bottom engine pan screws on the Stihl. Always see them back out.
@j109joell
@j109joell 6 лет назад
Good video. I use the Stihl 130 Kombi. I cut grass/weeds today for 45 minutes that was at minimum 2.5 ft high. No issues at all. I also have had good results with the hedge and limb trimmer attachments. I recently got the tiller attachment and would take it any day over a light duty gas tiller. The versatility of tihls kombi system is hard to beat. Does Echo make multi tool trimmers?
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
Yes, they have the PAS-280 power head which runs many of the same items you mentioned. I made a video featuring it running the stick edger attachment. Its a very powerful machine.
@BackyardBourbon
@BackyardBourbon 5 лет назад
Late to comment but ehat Husqvarna is comparable to these? The 525 LST? I currently run: Primary-Husqvarna 322L, Back up-Echo SRM 225. First year in lawn care. Part time business with 8 properties. Started on 5/25/19. Not sure that I can swing it till next season but looking for a helpful beefy option for overgrown yards/ditches. Really love my 322L so far.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 5 лет назад
I've run a Husqvarna 223L trimmer for a several years and had great success with it.
@hyakkimaru6709
@hyakkimaru6709 5 лет назад
I have a stihl 130 and it has alot of power. The only problem is the lowest speed is high as FUCK so you can't cut around plants at all. Too much power for normal yards. But anything overgrown can kiss it's ass goodbye.
@mrdossp.9647
@mrdossp.9647 6 лет назад
Both are excellent. I use and prefer the fs90r by far more powerful machine. One swipe and done as the video elistrated. Thank you for the demo
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
Cool, thanks for posting!
@ritualafterlife
@ritualafterlife 4 года назад
I'm fixing to buy one of these. I don't think it matters which. Both seem to be complete overkill for my application. The Echo did sound more fantastic-er tho. And yes they both sounded incredible idling together. Killer drone shots as well.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 4 года назад
Thanks man, even if they're overkill, either one should last you a very long time, giving you a good return on your money.
@budgunter8950
@budgunter8950 Год назад
I'm curious about the comfort from the grip using the trigger, and how much vibration you get from each one. I'm wondering how tired you get from the vibration after a while? Any Ideas?
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder Год назад
I think ECHO upgraded the loop handle a year or 2 after making this video. I've never had any issues with vibration that I recall. I highly recommend the 2620T, if you want my opinion.
@budgunter8950
@budgunter8950 Год назад
@@MarkThomasBuilder Thanks for the reply, I'll check it out.
@tomjohnson9976
@tomjohnson9976 7 лет назад
How long are the warranties? Echo saws are 5 years for residential. I love my 352 saw.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 7 лет назад
Echo is 5 years residential and 2 years commercial. Stihl offers a 2 yr warranty or you can double your warranty if you buy a 6 pack of their Ultra HP oil and exclusively run that in their machines.
@stephenscott186
@stephenscott186 7 лет назад
markthomasbuilder what is Stihl's commercial warranty?
@theonetheonlyw5483
@theonetheonlyw5483 7 лет назад
I'll say this I used the same Stihl on a golf course for ten years and now use it to do several yards. I am not easy on it whatsoever, I use it to line up honeysuckle and just about everything else, never had an issue with it, never worked on it, only gone through one head, but like I said. I am not easy on it. but after 10+ years of service... like a sore Peter, can't beat it!
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 7 лет назад
Haha, wow! These professional grade trimmers are a classic example of getting what you pay for. Worth the money!
@noteworthy227
@noteworthy227 3 года назад
Finally a fair opinion
@heavymechanic2
@heavymechanic2 5 лет назад
I just invested into a SRM-225 (Homeowner grade) and I'm just getting used to the ECHO trimmer, I tuned the fuel screws because it sounded a little rough out of the box. In heavy weeds, it seems to have plenty of power and does not give me problems like the MTD stuff. The ECHO also seems to run a long time on a tank of fuel.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 5 лет назад
I haven't had to tweak mine yet. The motor seems to take slightly longer to warm up, but once it does, it powers through.
@Mr.Moose5000
@Mr.Moose5000 3 года назад
Echo all the way.i have both.. But my fav is Echo.. Less weight.. I just feel a faster reaction from Echo.. Echo last for ever too if you take good care of them.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 3 года назад
I have an Echo You Can kit for maintenance. I need to do that to this trimmer before next spring.
@andybub45
@andybub45 3 года назад
Yep the Japanese build great engines
@m3vt2seffn
@m3vt2seffn 6 лет назад
I have been a landscaper for the last past 25 years I've used nothing but Echo echo is a great company every time I needed my power equipment and always there they always started that's why I go with Echo
@fastrivers812
@fastrivers812 2 года назад
What cc do you recommend for tall and thick grass like this guy has? I ask because I have two 21cc and they seem ok but not that powerful. My thought is to go with a 30cc or higher but people seem to like the 2620T's. Thanks.
@m3vt2seffn
@m3vt2seffn 2 года назад
@@fastrivers812 I walked in the home Depot about 20 years ago and I bought the most expensive as one that had the bigger motor and that cost me I think $339.00 see I like the metal face you're able to change the thick string on it and it will go through any grass
@chunker6455
@chunker6455 6 лет назад
If the echo has a cable shaft, I wouldn't want it, my other echo's with cable shaft start making racket as the plastic around the cable starts wearing. If anyone knows if echo 2620T uses cable or solid shaft, let me know
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
It's a 4-layer cable drive shaft.
@Daehawk
@Daehawk 6 лет назад
I remember our first little string trimmer as a kid. I think it was 1978 and it was a Weedeater brand. Little electric. back then the string on them were SO TINY. I own the Echo P225. Beastly little machine. Would not own anything but Echo.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
Haha, I think we had the same trimmer. I also remember a weed cutter that was like a mini hedge trimmer on a stick. It was about 4" wide for cutting the weeds. It was slow going for trimming weeds. Anyways... Thanks for voting!
@RRaucina
@RRaucina 5 лет назад
I want a Stihl, but the Echo quick load head might make me go over to them. Whats up on that Stihl?
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 5 лет назад
The Stihl has the standard bump feed head. I think you can put and ECHO Speed Feed Head on the Stihl.
@show2ime
@show2ime 5 лет назад
@@MarkThomasBuilder I have all Stihls with Echo Speedfeed heads. They give you all you need to put the heads on nearly any trimmer in the package.
@jamesjamison4005
@jamesjamison4005 6 лет назад
7 years and still running my FS 55 R, it will always be Stihl for me.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
Thanks for voting! I used to run the same one a few years back. I wasn't the original owner and don't think it was properly taken care of.
@Eagle031265
@Eagle031265 4 года назад
I'll go for the Stihl, due to its manufacturing quality standard.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 4 года назад
Okay, thanks for voting!
@MESABOOGIE01
@MESABOOGIE01 6 лет назад
Good comparison video. I own a landscaping business and I swear by Echo trimmers. I have 6 Echo Trimmers. The Stihl trimmers these days don't hold up, and from my experience if you use a weedeater like we do, we get about nearly a season out of the commercial grade Stihls. I think I have 2 of the same Echo trimmers you have, but they may be slightly different models, they are 7 years old and we run them hard every day with no problems except the usual wear and tear. An occasional air filter or maybe the bump head wears out, or a pin hole in the fuel line, or a throttle cable breaks. Normal wear and tear on a machine. The Stihl machines that were the best were the FS 80R's because they didn't have the over head valve motors. The new Stihl's with the over head valve motors like the FS90, in my experience, have too many problems with the valves coming out of alignment. I've got 4 of them with 3/4 of a season on them sitting out there in the junk pile. Also with the Echo machines, they told me that they are all rated at commercial grade machines. Stihl does make good backpack blowers, or they used to, and good regular type chainsaws. But in all honesty, with trimmers or weedeaters, I go with Echo. You'll be working while the other companies are sitting around waiting to get their Stihl weedeaters or trimmers out of the shop.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
Interesting commentary. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience.
@snoopfurlow1275
@snoopfurlow1275 5 лет назад
Cole..which echo are you using for your lawn business?
@errolpoxleitner3163
@errolpoxleitner3163 5 лет назад
Mostly bull shit
@connor.crees1
@connor.crees1 5 лет назад
I agree echo is better
@jbuzzy
@jbuzzy 5 лет назад
I have both the echo and the Stihl. The Stihl died after one year and the Echo is still going after 10 years. I use the same cord as you and it is the best trimmer cord I have ever used. Thanks.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 5 лет назад
That's interesting to hear.
@jeffreylc
@jeffreylc 6 лет назад
I use them all. Stihl, Echo and Husqvarna. My Echo 2620T with Weedshark head is my go to for heavy brush out on the property around ponds, etc. For grass and normal; everyday trimming its dealers choice. They are all great machines.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
I haven't tried the Weedshark out yet. I'm interested to see how it knocks down the tall weeds.
@STIHLSEAN
@STIHLSEAN 7 лет назад
Great video! I would take the stihl over the echo, but I'm a bit biased. I used to work for a stihl distributor so maybe that's why. I also like the way the stihl engineers seem to think ahead and incorporate a better service experience when designing their products. However having said that, the echo srm-2620t is one hell of a nice machine.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 7 лет назад
Thanks, I'm happy with both brands to be honest. I think Echo is also working hard to compete in the professional outdoor tool arena.
@jonathanheuring3681
@jonathanheuring3681 2 года назад
I like Stihl that said I graveyards and I used both Stihl and echo.Echo gets it done .but Stihl just goes through it a whole different way in my opinion.
@Likethetacosauce
@Likethetacosauce 6 лет назад
I'm biased since I own an echo but I've used both and sthil like the echo.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
Thanks for your vote!
@Vffr1
@Vffr1 5 лет назад
I see what you did there.
@hyakkimaru6709
@hyakkimaru6709 5 лет назад
HA I see that! Trying to be sneaky huh?????
@noteworthy227
@noteworthy227 3 года назад
@@Vffr1 stihl spelled it wrong tho 💁‍♂️
@domen808
@domen808 3 года назад
I run 2 echo 2620s for my small lawncare business and they are great . Taken down some tough yards with ease. Use the easy tune up kits every 6 months and strictly ethonal-free w/red armor. keeps the machine running top shape for an extended time
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 3 года назад
Thanks for the tip. I use the same fuel setup as you. I need to try the tune up kit this spring.
@domen808
@domen808 3 года назад
@@MarkThomasBuilder no problem thanks for videos . The tune kits are great , super easy and i can tell the difference with fresh filters and a spark plug .
@JESSEPAVON
@JESSEPAVON 6 лет назад
I’ve had my echo for about 3 years, it’s a smaller one and it was 200 bucks, one of the things i do for a living is clean yards and i absolutely love the echo. It has never done me wrong, it just wont quit, It always start pretty much at 2 or 3 pulls. Has great power, not to mention restringing it is easier then all other weed eaters. My other tools are stihl.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
Sounds like my experience with the Echo line trimmer. It works very well and is starts easily. I'm in the process of putting a ECHO Speed Feed head on my Stihl line trimmer.
@JESSEPAVON
@JESSEPAVON 6 лет назад
That will be an awesome upgrade, i love mine.
@MrLovestuck
@MrLovestuck 6 лет назад
I use Echo products because thats what my local dealer sells! Love my 2620
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
Having a good dealer makes a world of difference!
@ahidedelira12
@ahidedelira12 3 года назад
I just want to say hello from Oklahoma, my son Mateo has autism and you have no idea how he enjoys your videos
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 3 года назад
That is so awesome!😀 Tell him I said hi and thanks for watching. I'm happy to send some stickers and a magnet to him. If he would like that, feel free to email me an address to send them. I'm at markthomasbuilder@gmail.com
@severoferova5928
@severoferova5928 Год назад
What dose that have to do with the weed eating????
@danielstollings9619
@danielstollings9619 Год назад
@@severoferova5928 you’re pathetic
@bradshoop8194
@bradshoop8194 Год назад
Don't be dick all your life Sevro.... Great video man thank you for the knowledge looking to buy new equipment for my farm!
@Zach-sg5uu
@Zach-sg5uu 2 месяца назад
@@severoferova5928 Nothing & autism doesn’t actually in occur in most people that are supposedly diagnosed with it! A lot of women are under diagnosed & a lot of men are over diagnosed!
@Omegadoomship
@Omegadoomship 5 лет назад
I have an older Echo SRM 230 and SRM 260 and I like them a lot. But I also have a Stihl FS55 and FS90R and I like them a lot too. It's hard to say which brand I like better. I've had no problems with either, and they have both racked up some hours cutting grass and brush.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 5 лет назад
I use both Echo and Stihl trimmer. They've both served me well.
@mmafanatic90
@mmafanatic90 5 лет назад
What type of fuel do you run? Looks like the premixed kind!
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 5 лет назад
I normally use 89 octane with ECHO Red Armor. I don't recall if I used the premix Red Armor in this video.
@MrCutLawnCare
@MrCutLawnCare 7 лет назад
I've recently started switching over to echo so I would probably choose the echo, the 4mix is still good though. Great video and comparisons
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 7 лет назад
Thanks!
@4wdaddict41
@4wdaddict41 6 лет назад
Mr. Cut Lawn Care, LLC what made you switch
@nsatoday
@nsatoday 6 лет назад
I went from Echo to Stihl. Love the 4-Mix. And the Stihl chainsaws are beast
@PastPreserver
@PastPreserver 6 лет назад
I would say the Echo wins. The Stihl has a bigger engine and a smaller cutting head and it still bogs down. The Echo has a smaller engine and a bigger cutting head and it still takes with out really bogging down. Also the Echo has a bigger fuel tank the speed feed head. (I cant tell if yours has that or not.) I have used a couple Stihl weed eaters before and they have just never wowed me.The one Echo weed eater that I own is from the 80s and it would mow circles around the Stihl that my dad had. Right now they are both down I need to get my Echo going again a mud dauber built a nest in it and it has been sitting for a few years. I have been using a Cub Cadet for the last couple of years I have yet to have an issue with it. Great video :)
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
Thanks, I used to have a Cub Cadet trimmer a long time ago and my main issue was my right forearm would touch against a part of the engine that was very hot. I'm guessing they fixed that?
@keithcronk7980
@keithcronk7980 6 лет назад
ACguy 1948 YOU NEED URE HEARING CK. IT DIDN'T BOGDOWN
@MadMetalShop
@MadMetalShop 6 лет назад
The echo did bog its just a much different tone being a 2 stroke and the stihl a 4 mix.
@woodyclemmensen5222
@woodyclemmensen5222 6 лет назад
The echo might have a bigger fuel tank but the stihl is more fuel efficient
@MadMetalShop
@MadMetalShop 6 лет назад
jack mehoff well stihl discontinued the fs 90r and replaced it with thr fs 91r which has a 24oz tank. larger than the previous 90r. That was one of many improvements made.
@raysears8120
@raysears8120 4 года назад
How many years of daily service does the Stihl FS90R get? I have only used Echo SRM266T in my business and get 5 years of daily service here in Florida with the Echo SRM266T spending $34.95 in maintenance over that 5 year period excluding fuel and line (head replacement, plugs, and filters) . I use enclosed trailers to protect the equipment from the environment, used Stihl 5lb. commercial green round .095 line spools that cost $25.95 with a $5 off coupon from Ace Hardware. I do use edgers when necessary, but the majority of the time we use the trimmer as a vertical edger. Can you use the Stihl FS90R in a vertical position for edging walk ways and garden curbing? I would be open minded to switching brands. It is all about the cost of doing business in the nickle and dime America we have today.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 4 года назад
These are great questions. Yes, both trimmers work well to turn for vertical edging and for daily use. I use ECHO Red Armor oil with 89 octane and that seems to be the trick for great performance. Both of these trimmers perform well and make it a hard choice to choose between the two. Sometimes it comes to dealer support. I've switched to a stick edger from ECHO and it gives me the best results.
@DDOUBLEYUH
@DDOUBLEYUH 6 лет назад
I can't comment to the echo, or the fs 90 really, but I own an fs91 and my dealer why it seems to bog in short grass and why it bogs (head not in grass) at WOT. He said it has a rev limiter that engages when the unit isn't under a load, that it's a fuel saving feature. Sure enough, I can put it into 2 ft tall, thick grass and it powers right through. I have been thoroughly impressed with it! Maybe the fs90 has the same rev limiter as it's the predecessor to the 91?
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
That's interesting. I'm not sure if there's a rev limiter on mine. I'll have to try it out today. I'm aware of this with my new ECHO 58v chainsaw
@petemudri9804
@petemudri9804 6 лет назад
The echo sounds like a beast didn't bog at all
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
It does a great job, for sure!
@plantationlawn8733
@plantationlawn8733 6 лет назад
what's the reduction rate on the stihl? I see the echo is the T which is 2:1 compared to the normal 2620 being 1.62:1 (i think)
@WJCTechyman
@WJCTechyman 6 лет назад
plantation lawn The Echo regular head does well too but for his scenario the "T"-model with the 2:1 head would be sufficient. I know this as I believe I have the PAS model of this trimmer but with the regular Speed Feed head and gearbox.
@inspectorconscious2388
@inspectorconscious2388 5 лет назад
Idk echos we use seem to bog and not run to full power. Even after cleaning them and maitence work. It always seems to happen.
@davrosdalek5548
@davrosdalek5548 4 года назад
I’ve got a 1000 cc strimmer it goes through anything . It has 200 bhp
@patrujo
@patrujo 7 лет назад
I bought the 91r and the throttle response was abysmal. I returned it for Stihl's only 2 stroke trimmer the fs94r. It's worked flawlessly for 2 seasons. The best power to weight ratio in any trimmer I've used beside my old Kawasaki. Echos are awesome, but heavy beasts.
@Mr_Tecumseh
@Mr_Tecumseh 6 лет назад
I was given a Stihl FS80R. It came with the more expensive 3 point 12 metal blade and adapter set up. It also came with a cultivator attachment. So I bought a string trimmer head for it, because I got the unit free. The unit is almost 20 years old appears to be from 1999. Well the thing starts right up and runs and cuts great. The clutch might be slightly worn because the blade does not completely stop, but it slows way down. I'm gonna be getting a tube of the grease for it, it could use it. It is still one of the best weed trimmers I ever used hands down. Stihl.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
That's a nice run with it, especially if you're using a blade, which is probably more strenuous on the motor.
@dgjardinage7517
@dgjardinage7517 4 года назад
I'm happy with my fs38 fs55 fs120 fs131 and fs 560 always running winter and summer!
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 4 года назад
Wow, nice collection!
@dianeross7611
@dianeross7611 4 года назад
I love Stihl I grew up with em. They run great and they run forever.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 4 года назад
I grew up with an old Stihl chainsaw that cut a lot of firewood. I'd like to get another one someday.
@g.d.7629
@g.d.7629 3 года назад
Not true none last forever.
@mikechapman4767
@mikechapman4767 3 года назад
GD, I don't know. Our farm Stihl was purchased over 20 years ago and is still running strong. I've put 5-6 plugs, a coil, and a carb in it. It's a heavy beast compared to the echo 266 I bought as a backup, but it just keeps on chugging. Metal blade on the Stihl and string on the Echo
@richardf9137
@richardf9137 6 лет назад
As a homeowner I’ve run a Shindiawa for 17 years just purchased an Echo 2620 so we shall see! Thanks
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
I would say your Shindiawa had a good run if it lasted that long. I think you'll be happy with the 2620.
@plantationlawn8733
@plantationlawn8733 6 лет назад
just a quick fyi, echo and shindaiwa are owned by the same parent company now. the 2620 and shindaiwa t262 are virtually the same machine save for a different grip material, throttle trigger and presence switch and guard.
@richardf9137
@richardf9137 6 лет назад
The shindaiwa has a solid shaft.
@jaspervonbach3621
@jaspervonbach3621 9 месяцев назад
Is it easier to trim a driveway edge with a straight shaft or curved shaft?
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 9 месяцев назад
I always go for straight shaft trimmers and edgers.
@jeremymassey5940
@jeremymassey5940 3 года назад
Have you thought of comparing 2,stroke with 2,mix and 4stroke with 4mix and 2 stroke engined strimmers I had a 4 stroke on loan when my stihl FS460 had a problem,I got the old FS 400 out a did more work in 10 minutes than the 4 stroke did in an hour
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 3 года назад
Sounds like an interesting idea. I need to get a 2 mix to compare to.
@plantationlawn8733
@plantationlawn8733 6 лет назад
I've read most of the comments and I think it's safe to say both are good machines and people have their loyalties to both. Dealer support is huge though, without it, it doesn't matter what you have if you need service. My dealer is fairly large and sells Stihl, Echo, Shindaiwa and Redmax but their commercial turn around time during peak season can be as long as 5 weeks. I'm fixing to pull the trigger and switch to echo. so i have to cast my vote for echo in this case.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
Wow, 5 weeks is a long time! Dealer support is where it's at. Good luck in your switch! ECHO has served me well, as well as Stihl.
@ryy597
@ryy597 5 лет назад
great video, i think ill give echo a try! had problems with my stihls trimmer, the higher end ones are very expensive..
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 5 лет назад
If you try it out, please let me know how it works out for you. Thanks!
@ryy597
@ryy597 5 лет назад
@@MarkThomasBuilder no problem! we still have 5-6 feet of snow so i won't be until june that i could try one. i recently bought a 501p chainsaw and was very very satisfied with it!
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 5 лет назад
Glad to hear the 501p is working well! It sounds like you live north of me. Are you in Canada?
@ryy597
@ryy597 5 лет назад
@@MarkThomasBuilder yes im in canada, im in the north east. we still have alot of snow!
@djangoapple8230
@djangoapple8230 5 лет назад
I had an Echo. Left a Stihl and echo trimmer in the back of my truck. Got back and the Echo had been stolen the Stihl wasn't touched. A good thief knows value and quality. Same thing happened to my echo chainsaw. First echo chainsaw I bought back in the mid 90s was stolen. I do have a Stihl edger I bought in the 90s that still runs to this day. That was before "obsolescence manufacturing" got started.
@BCBusinessBroker
@BCBusinessBroker 5 лет назад
I have an old Echo trimmer (1982 vintage) which was sold under the John Deere label. I still use it today. It still starts every spring and does everything I need it to. I am looking for a new head for a hedge trimmer and saw for trimming trees/shrubs. Based on the performance of my ancient Echo and this video and comments, I am confident to stick to the reliable Echo. I have heard a lot of good things from service shops about Echo's. They seldom come in for repair.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 5 лет назад
I'm happy with all my ECHO outdoor power equipment. I use ECHO Red Armor and they all run great for me. Thanks for sharing the story of your vintage trimmer. I'm glad to hear it's still running good.
@MattsRageFitGarage
@MattsRageFitGarage 5 лет назад
I've had the same experiences with Echo. Owned lots of them and abused the weedwackers and never had any issues other than old age fuel lines and the occasional tune up. I inherited my grandfathers Stihl FS90R and SH85 blower. I like the FS90R but I find myself always working on it to keep it running right. Nice machine, super powerful and smooth, but not the most reliable. I flat out dislike the SH85 other than using it to blow out the garage and suck stuff out of flower beds. Hard starting, wrist twisting, heavy bogging piece it is. I owned an SRM230 for 9 years and sold it after I got the FS90R (I regret that decision now) and I spent more time cutting down overgrown lawns with that thing than anything else. I also ran a blade on it a lot cutting fist sized branches and stuff I should have used a chainsaw for. I had that thing so hot so many times it faded the plastic cylinder shroud/cover and I burnt the skin off my arms multiple times. It always ran excellent and never had one issue out of it. The FS90R on the other hand has had way less use than that SRM230 and still gives running problems from time to time. I think when the FS90R bites the dust I'll replace it with a SRM2620 from what I've seen here.
@rubensandoval3486
@rubensandoval3486 6 лет назад
I have an srm210 I've been using since 2008. I've had to replace a few parts but I like it because it's light. I do have the sthil fs90 and carry it in my trailer every day as a back up. I go with echo every day though.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
That's interesting. Do you run them with a trimmer guard? I just took mine off for the first time and was surprised how much lighter it is. I'm probably going to put it back on though.
@rubensandoval3486
@rubensandoval3486 6 лет назад
markthomasbuilder I do run my trimmer with a guard. If I was to take mine off I would take the guard off the sthil. It is so big and makes it hard to get in tight spaces.
@vsteel
@vsteel 7 лет назад
I love my Shindaiwa T262 which is the same as the Echo 2620 with a little different control placement. I think the ergonomics on the Shindaiwa are better but the engine and rest of the parts are the same. Though the T262 has a steel rod in the shaft but the 2620 has a wire rope, the 2620T has a head which has a little different gearing (slows the line speed but give more torque.) The cutting swath is different I believe, 20in for the T262 and 17in for the 2620. I was a little concerned with the smallish engine but my dealer said it would do great for my usage. I have 700 yards of irrigation ditch and so I am going through thick grass, clover and weeds which can be from a foot to 3 feet tall. I also have several hundred yards of grass along fence lines that I am doing. My usage model is to fill up the trimmer, let it warm up, then start cutting. when the tank is almost empty fill it up and go wide open again. Lots of times I never let up on the throttle because I am going non stop. I will run 3 to 4 tanks like that back to back. I can't comment too much on the part throttle operation but it seems to do good, that is .01% of my usage. In case anyone is curious I use Maxima K2 synthetic oil in my 2 stroke machines. I love how easy to maneuver this trimmer is (lots of odd angles around ditch banks), I think it is well balanced and it doesn't tire me out like other trimmers. I can tear through the thick stuff and it has a lot of power and I am surprised at how thick and fast of material I have to go through to start to load down the engine. I didn't say bog because it never really bogs, it just slows down a little but again I am going through A LOT thicker of material than the average home owner. Also make sure you run about 5 tanks through the Echo before really getting into the power comparison, it breaks in and works even better after the first few and the power really picks up. I will also never own a trimmer that doesn't have the speed feed head. To put new string in the head just align the arrows, feed the line through and then spin the head to wind it inside. You can replace string in about a minute without ever taking the head off or apart. I would take the Shindaiwa/Echo trimmer hands down over the Sthil and I would take the Shindaiwa over the Echo.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 7 лет назад
Very interesting comments, thanks for posting! I'm very happy with the speed feed head too. I haven't tried Shindaiwa products, but know they are built under the same roof as Echo. Have you tried the Red Armor Oil? Echo highly recommends using it and says that it will improve the rms's and clean the cylinder over a 90 day period. I have the Echo PAS 280 and I'm thinking about buying the trimmer attachment and see how it compares to my 2620T.
@vsteel
@vsteel 7 лет назад
I have not tried the Red Armor Oil. I got on the Maxima K2 years ago because that is what the lot of the high RPM kart racers and chain saw racers use. I have never had it gum or carbon up, it burns very clean. I have been using it in my chainsaw for over 10 years and never had a carbon or gum issue and I can't tell you how many log trucks of wood it has cut up. It is a synthetic oil that has a lot of the same properties as the Red Armor. I don't think you can go wrong with either oil, I just get the K2 in big jugs and run it in all of my 2 strokes. When I got my T262 the dealer had both Echo and Shindaiwa so I got to feel them side by side. It also might make a difference my previous trimmer was a Shindaiwa. The dealer did say though that if a guy came in getting trimmers for his crew he would get the Echo's, if he was also going to be doing trimming the owners would get the Shindaiwa because they liked the feel better. The 280 vs 2620T will be interesting, from what I could see the 2620 is supposed to be the longest lasting trimmer Echo has. If that is marketing speech or some truth I don't know.
@michael4962
@michael4962 4 года назад
Good video!! I’m looking to buy. Based on the comments I’m getting the Echo. Thanks.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 4 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@kruppratte218
@kruppratte218 7 лет назад
Cool Video, around Memorial day My yard will get 2 foot tall grass because I push mow, the Push mower cuts higher than the Riding mower and doesn't scalp the yard as much, plus it gets pretty wet sometimes, but the Stihl FS 90r is a really good trimmer, use it to trim around the Bushes and trees and keep a path through the woods nice, made some paths to some wild black Raspberry bushes with it and I used it to clear an area passed the yard to be able to have a 30 yard shooting range plus I use it to trim overhanging branches that get in my way, when both my Push mower and Riding mower was needing fixed, I trimmed 2 acres with the Stihl FS 90 R trimmer, took about 8 hours to trim it all, just the mowing part with the grass 2 foot tall, The Stihl FS 90r is a freakin' beast, in case you're wondering why the grass will get 2 foot tall, it's because I'll be at work trimming grass for an average of 48 hours a week, even if it gets to be 95 degrees with a humidity that feels like 100 degrees.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 7 лет назад
Wow, does your back get sore after trimming for 8 hours? Mine came with a shoulder strap, but I rather go without it.
@kruppratte218
@kruppratte218 7 лет назад
No, that don't bother my back at all, before High School I used to help Grandpa with Fire wood, we didn't have equipment other than our backs, a chainsaw, a garden tractor and a makeshift sled made from metal roofing and a rope, or we'd use a trailer, sometimes the leaf collection trailer from those vacuums that fasten to the discharge on the mower deck, and we'd split wood with a Splitting maul, so I got a strong back from that and we had Gym class in school, plus now I trim 8 hours a day, with 3 breaks, at work, one day I trimmed for 11 hours, because we was so far behind for memorial day, the Newbies spent more time on their phones than they did trimming so we got really far behind, but yea, after a long period of time, it can have an effect, if you're not used to it, I got an Outdoors backpack from the Sporting goods store and converted it to a trimming supply backpack, it now holds a 5 gallon steel Jerry can for 2 cycle trimming gas, the small flat screw driver, the rod for changing trimmer heads, that multi tool that comes with it to change attachments on it, a can of Starting fluid, a spool of trimming string, and the Lubrication grease tube, when I was trimming by myself for that extra 4 hours, I used that Backpack that I converted at work, it'll wear you out faster than not having it, but it's a huge help, when you've got a ton of trimming to do.
@jimforjzs777
@jimforjzs777 7 лет назад
good job. what about warranties ? customer relations? 2 big issues.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 7 лет назад
Residential, Echo is 5 years and Stihl offers a 2 yr warranty and if you buy a 10 pack of their HP oil, it doubles the warranty to 4 years. If you find a good dealer from either Stihl or Echo, that means a lot. I personally know many Echo employees and even met the CEO. They're an awesome group.
@JohnJohnson-gt6xi
@JohnJohnson-gt6xi 5 лет назад
Echo. I have 20 lawns & I've used most all types.Echo for my hard earned money!
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 5 лет назад
I've always use Red Armor fuel in my ECHO equipment and they've always come through for me.
@zingobangee
@zingobangee 4 года назад
That’s right! This guy obviously doesn’t or hasn’t made any money with his equipment. He looks like he never will have a grasp of reality. The stihl company will NEVER get my business. I’ve been stuck having to use their crap and didn’t make any money those days. Fact is stihl is SHIT!!!
@mirandarivers9378
@mirandarivers9378 6 лет назад
My business runs echo for weedeating. We have 2 265 and 4 2620. The guys really like the 2620
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
Thanks, glad to hear it. I'm happy with my 2620T.
@SabreMatt
@SabreMatt 5 лет назад
I've had my Echo GT-225 curved shaft trimmer since 2012 & have had zero major issues w/ it. I service it yearly(clean/re-gap spark plug, regrease drive shaft, clean muffler/spark arrestor & clean the throttle assembly/carborator) & I have say that this tool can take a beating & still perform tip top. As someone said in another comment, Echo products are very easy to work on & replacement parts are easy to find for reasonable cost. I have other Echo gas powered tools & I can say the same for those aswell. If you give your Echo a little bit of tlc every 6 - 12 months it'll return it spades by making your outdoor work go fast, smooth & with out a hitch. I highly recommend Echo gas powered products.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 5 лет назад
That's good to hear! Preventive maintenance is key! I have one of their You Can Tune Up Kits to try out soon.
@SabreMatt
@SabreMatt 5 лет назад
@@MarkThomasBuilder It's very convenient that Home Depot is basically Echo's one stop shop. Most of the common replacement parts are usually available but any Echo owner can easily find what they need online with little trouble. Echo tools are as much fun to tinker with as they are to run. Good luck with your yearly maintenance & keep that beast running(Echo's don't purr, they growl). Great video btw. I really liked the drone overhead view. 👍👍👍
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 5 лет назад
Thank you! I'll be tuning them up soon.
@EricStevenTerry
@EricStevenTerry Год назад
Not sure if you'll see this and be able to respond, but how tall are you? I'm looking for something that is not going to destroy my back trimming down weeds on hillsides on a large swath of land.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder Год назад
I'm 6' 3. You may want to get the attachment called the Darwins Grip. I haven't tried it but I hear good things. Someday I'll have to review it.
@EricStevenTerry
@EricStevenTerry Год назад
@@MarkThomasBuilder I actually have the Darwin's Grip on my current garbage MTD trimmer. It's fine for level ground but kills your wrists on any sort of elevation. I've been thinking I need to get a trimmer with a handlebar, but that model is the non-torque for Echo.
@rico1319
@rico1319 7 лет назад
You got some beautiful lawn there my friend. Echo all the way
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 7 лет назад
Thanks! I'm happy with my Echo products too!
@WEALRO
@WEALRO 6 лет назад
Echo starts every time and I neglect mine for maintenance, nothing in 5 years and runs like i just got it. Only use the power blend echo oil and line. Great engine echo
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
I use the ECHO Red Armor Oil. It does a great job in my machines.
@WEALRO
@WEALRO 6 лет назад
I'll have to look for that oil.
@whiskeytangofoxtrot9403
@whiskeytangofoxtrot9403 6 лет назад
I run 2007 echo srm 230 and love it still runs like a champ. I have run all the major brands but like the echo the most including my cs620p.
@Jv19979
@Jv19979 3 года назад
My old robin 252b finally died i can not find a carb kit for it. So I'm either going to get a echo 2620t or the 3020t
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 3 года назад
If you're doing normal trimming and some ditch trimming I'd say the 2620T. It has nice power. If you want to run a brush blade I'd go with the 3020t.
@jacktinker3880
@jacktinker3880 4 года назад
I worked for a lawn care company for about a year, and they only had echo trimmers. They were some of the worst commercial trimmers I ever used. The motors were very temperamental. and there were no guards over the spark plug wires so after they would crack over time from being dropped you would always get zapped like a tazer. The best trimmers I ever used were the stihl fs44s, because they have an excellent power to weight ratio, they are easy to start, and easy to work on. In my opinion, the best trimmer on the market currently is the stihl fs94r. I have had one for about four months and I am very impressed with the trimmer. It is a 2 stroke motor, which makes it much lighter than the stihl 4 mix trimmers. It is also very reliable, I have been using it every day and it has not disappointed me. I know that there are people who will disagree with me, but it’s just my opinion and what I have found to work best for me.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing. I've never owned an older ECHO trimmer with the shock issue, but I am aware of it. Their newer trimmers like the 2620 works well and don't have that issue. I haven't tried the fs94r, but I'm sure I'd like it, since it's probably close to the fs90r.
@Mercy-lb5rq
@Mercy-lb5rq 6 лет назад
Thank you my friend. A great demonstration. I think I prefer the still, can't really say why, except for me I'm not that far from the factory, and it feels real American. Either way a lot of my preferences are not rational.I do once again appreciate your time very professionally done Henry
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
Thank you, sir! I'm always trying my best!
@TxDuallyNation
@TxDuallyNation 5 лет назад
Stihl is german
@easttnlawncare7573
@easttnlawncare7573 5 лет назад
I have been using both an my stihl always there my echo i had to put 2 carbs on it i like it thats y i wont let it go o use my stihl. An echo back up
@shogunMR
@shogunMR 5 лет назад
exactly my echo has needed a carb a few times in a couple years the Stihl never needed one and still went strong after winter the echo took a little work to get up and running
@TravisCadello
@TravisCadello 3 года назад
Thanks for this video! I returned a craftsman weeder it was trash! And stuck in between these two! You answered my question!
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 3 года назад
Glad I could help!
@noteworthy227
@noteworthy227 3 года назад
Should save yourself the trouble and go with a stihl
@Wadejm533
@Wadejm533 5 лет назад
Thanks for that, I've been wanting someone to do this. The echo sounds a little louder but that's all I can tell. I really don't know.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 5 лет назад
I thought they both performed well. The Stihl is a 4 mix and the ECHO is a 2-stroke, so the sound is a little different. The Speed Feed Head on the ECHO is what I prefer. I'll probably add one to the Stihl soon.
@dennisbatista6360
@dennisbatista6360 3 года назад
@@MarkThomasBuilder how do you put a speed feed to the stihl?
@joenuzback5474
@joenuzback5474 5 лет назад
I have used both Stihl is very dependable and has excellent power with wide open throttle on the four mix engines but they honestly make a pretty shitty weed eater I run my equipment without guards to maximize productivity and the stihl hates it it will bog down and foul out there only power is wide open throttle and a lot of times that is not necessary I don’t walk around cutting in wide open throttle it leaves very little room for error if your where to hit something or bump the head on the ground rocks pine cones debris flies everywhere let’s not for get dog shit too anyways I prefer echo traditional 2 stroke great power throttle response and it’s actually longer than the stihl so it’s less fatigue on your back from bending over and you get a broader sweeping cut
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 5 лет назад
I hear ya, I don't like running on full throttle either.
@azimaz5483
@azimaz5483 5 лет назад
Sthil has many different models which have gaurd shield and Sthil has different handles to choose from and can relocate handle bar and long one only for their own home not as a business owner
@azimaz5483
@azimaz5483 5 лет назад
Only problem with Sthil gotta hit the head few times for line comes out
@mrpotatoheadracing
@mrpotatoheadracing 5 лет назад
Stihl 4mix doesn't like the throttle "feathered," neither does the clutch. Echos are more forgiving and when trimming close to things you do not want to cause any damage to, the Echo is the winner hands down in that category. Echo is easier to use at part throttle, and slowing the head down to provide a "gentle touch" comes easy with the Echo over the Stihl.
@WiIdbiII
@WiIdbiII 5 лет назад
That's why I chose the fs-240r. I do go throttle wide open in 3foot high Johnson grass , I have to wear alot of protection. But it's a beast.
@ivantruckman1
@ivantruckman1 4 года назад
USE THE ZERO TURN , YOU WOULD BE DONE IN 5 SECONDS
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 4 года назад
Haha, 100%!
@Chevy268
@Chevy268 4 года назад
Just jump off the mower every time you mow and move the trampoline. It takes 36 seconds. No trimmer use needed.
@AverageNeighbor
@AverageNeighbor 4 года назад
Isnt the FS94R the better trimmer to compare to since they would be both true two strokes
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 4 года назад
That sounds like a good comparison idea that I'd like to do. I already owned the FS90R, so that's why I compared these two. Thanks!
@MikeDMays
@MikeDMays 6 лет назад
Just got the Echo and got home and got everything ready just before sunset and WOW big difference over what I did have! I know both are great brands but I was looking for some validation for the Echo since I had never had one till now. I can vouch for them being every bit as awesome as the video portrays! I have had STIHL before and honestly I like the Echo! I hope it holds up well!~GREAT VIDEO
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
I'm in my second year with the ECHO line trimmer and its doing great! The speed feed head is quite amazing. Good luck with it and let me know how it works out after using it a bit. Thanks!
@MikeDMays
@MikeDMays 6 лет назад
markthomasbuilder I’ll be loading the black diamond tomorrow morning and hopefully I can work the speed feed lol I’ve always done them the ole fashion way.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
It's much easier than having to take apart the head to thread it. You can also put he ECHO Spreed Feed Head on Stihl and Husqvarna trimmers.
@mrpotatoheadracing
@mrpotatoheadracing 6 лет назад
I would choose the Echo. More power, lighter weight, fewer moving parts...
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
Thanks for your vote!
@JKZ103
@JKZ103 4 года назад
I love a stihl "4 mix" basically a 4 stroke without a sump.... I have both brands and you dont have to run the fs series wide open because of the massive torque it produces. I have the fs91r and echo and they are both great depending on what your wanting. I prefer the stihl as I can cruise around with massive torque and not wear myself out. After 3 years the stihl starts first pull 9 times out of 10. The main thing in any trimmer is to run a good oil and NON ETHANOL GAS. To do a true comparison overtime you must run no ethanol to keep the carbs clean. Everyone has their brand though right. Good video man!
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 4 года назад
Thanks, I appreciate hearing that! I agree with your views. I actually run both trimmers as few time a week. The Stihl started first pull for me today, just like you said they would. I do like the ECHO trimmer too. It's great for the taller stuff, in my opinion.
@JAY_SS88
@JAY_SS88 2 года назад
I run ethanol 93 octane gas in my echo backpack blower and srm225 string trimmer , but I add Stabil 360 marine , marvel mystery oil and echo red armor , I've had zero issues for 3 seasons and they all start right up within 5 or so pulls once primed.
@bryanwhitford5444
@bryanwhitford5444 2 года назад
Great video! What type of grass do you have…it’s beautiful?
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 2 года назад
Thanks, I planted a blend years ago that had a higher ratio of Kentucky blue grass.
@moonchasestar
@moonchasestar 4 года назад
I love your film. I have a FS 90R but not using strings but blade. Can you show how to install the blade
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 4 года назад
I don't have the blade for the FS90R trimmer unfortunately. I did make a video featuring the blade installation kit for the ECHO SRM 3020T, which might help. You can easily search it on my channel.
@Effffrraaaaaa
@Effffrraaaaaa 5 лет назад
Echo ! Most repair shops don’t carry sthil parts
@shannonmccall8701
@shannonmccall8701 4 года назад
Were I live it’s all STIHL parts but u never need parts
@sheirlieprophet2248
@sheirlieprophet2248 4 года назад
Bought my stihl fs 74 in 1994. Still runs strong after 25 years. Will probably out last me.
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 4 года назад
Wow, that's getting your money's worth!
@michaelsimms76
@michaelsimms76 5 лет назад
Nice video I have an old fs55 sthil and also an old echo strimmer and would rather use the echo all day long less vibration and doesn't bog down in longer grass , cheers from across the pond
@dheadhunter413
@dheadhunter413 6 лет назад
I posted a comment and said shindaiwa , I meant to say Maruyama, we have both at the company I work for , the trimmer model I use is a Maruyama CER230E with a BT23L shaft, it’s so light and has tons of power ,
@MarkThomasBuilder
@MarkThomasBuilder 6 лет назад
I'm hoping to test out a Maruyama sometime soon.
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