Stoner 63, 63A, & Mk23: History and Mechanics 

The weight difference of the ammo alone would have been significant.

M60 was chambered in 7.62x51... So not comparable

​@@weasle2904 Good point, but a) the Stoner LMG was yet introduced as a more lightweight alternative to the M60, at the expense of some firepower. b) the Stoner LMG still weighed 30% less than the 20 year later design M249! So, while it didn't really weigh half as much as other designs, it was still very lightweight.

@@andrehashimoto8056 I thought the LMG gunners helper carried the most ammo because the LMG guy has to carry the added weight of an LMG already

@Parker Hetzel I humped the 60 around the hills of Georgia and deserts of Texas..it was heavy ..but you get used to it.dont forget the spare barells that had to be humped along also..lol..still it was a decent MG

Andy Prariedog There is a difference between beeing a stoner and be the Stoner.

Theres a saying about engineers, if you fail to present them with sufficient problems to solve they'll start solving problems of their own creation.

When I have nothing to do I watch these videos.

He would of just invented calculus but that already existed

boredom is geniality's biological father

Thank you for your service!

The m16 is a stoner system

Thank you for your service John

Thank you for your service. Semper Fi.

Welcome home, and thank you for your service!

Well, the closest rifle system to the Stoner is the Steyr AUG. It has 4 barrels: very short-submachinegun, short-carbine, long-rifle and heavy barrel with bipod-automatic rifle. The barrels can be easily swapped in the field by locking the bolt in rear position, release the barrel knob, rotate the barrel 20 degrees and take the barrel out. Put another barrel in.

​@@mardiffv.8775 The closest rifle system to the Stoner 63 is the AUG? Can the AUG feed belts and magazines? The AUG is closer to the SA80 series; a bullpup select-fire assault rifle. The Stoner system could be reconfigured to feed both belts and magazines. This is closest to something like the FN Minimi (M249 SAW for Americans) which feeds belts of 5.56 but will also accept 5.56 STANAG mags in a pinch. FN Minimi and FN MAG both have quick-change barrels too - weapons which are largely used to replace these rather silly attempts at creating some versatility in a service rifle by changing barrel lengths. this only works for so long and systems designed specially for certain roles just do them better.

KelTec have been working on weapons systems based on the Stoner 63 for some time.

@@Lavenderlore1043 That is great news, thank you.

Robinson arms also produce civiliian remakes of the stoner 63 under the name M96. Probably still would be hard to get a hold of one i reckon but its an option nevertheless

It's gun nerd porn, gotta love it

A gun that works upside down. Pure genius.

The ar 15 is more modular u can switch between belt fed ,mag fed, long barrel ,short barrel, gas impingment, gas piston change between 556,7.62x39,6.5grendel 300blkout u can even put a 50bmg upper on it

any of which you could also have done with the 63, if it had been as common as the m16/Ar platforms , just not enough military addoption

@@joshualance6005 The AR-15 isn't more modular, so much as it's been redesigned more times and is ubiquitous enough to have mass market 3rd party parts manufactured to fit those designs. Hypothetically speaking this could be done with nearly any weapon.

Eks calybur lol, thanks for the laugh. Your comment reminded of Gordon Ingram, and how hard he pushed to sell the Mac 10’s. “This brick shaped gun will dump a mag so fast it’ll make your head spin. Look at this wire stock, that ain’t no coat hanger ma’am.”

@@bobamus1987 And what, I pray to the divine Emperor, would a member of the Mournival know of Mac 10's, exactly?

7hart2 as a member of the Mournival, “I can’t say”

​@@bobamus1987 But that's a lodge rule, but it makes sense you wouldn't know that, garvi.

@@zerocool4835 The original smg was the MP18. It was so useful, if not particularly good, it still managed to spawn a new type of small arms.

Czechoslovakia: do you want best beer and guns you can copy? rest of the world: yes please!

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Jöerg Sprav : Let me show you it's features. Ha ha ha

@@filipzalud9825 🥴🤣

*Imperial Japan would like to know your location*

You'll shoot your eye out, kid

sounds like a solid plan to sidestep the ATF to me!!

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Correct. NWM was the manufacturer of the stoner 63 for the Netherlands. in English it Translates to Dutch weapons and Munitions Factory.

Also the Eickhorn KCB-77 is still in production so not in any way "rare".

Looks almost exactly like the bayonet for my Steyr AUG.

And cuttlery.....

My fucking gosh, funniest shit I ever heard

Plus each 5.56 cartridge weighed less than half of the 7.62 cartridges of the M60. The SEAL could carry far more ammo, which is very useful. The distances in Vietnamese jungle fighting aren't usually that far so the disadvantage of 5.56 is minimized. So more than double the 7.62 ammo plus 12lbs of ammo, which in M193 5.56 is around 462rds. Or carry less ammo and have other equipment or be less encumbered for more mobility. Having a thousand extra rounds or more for the same weight is a major advantage for a machine gunner. And we're talking guys doing LRRP and going deep on foot into North Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia who really needed to be able to cover ground and lay down suppressive fire and fight without running out of ammo with all their equipment and weapons man-portable. The additional potency of the 7.62 cartridge of the M60 wouldn't rarely be worth the massive trade-offs necessitated by the additional weight.

m60 go durkadurkadurkadurka. STONER GO ZURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

@@theme7363 thx

Forgot a few... Mk 46: 15.43 lbs... Mk 48: 18.0779 lbs... M240: 21.8-22.3 lbs...

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Im really hoping that he drops the g11 video on christmas. It would be perfect.

I misread that as "a million stoners with subguns." 😂 Not really, but it is an amusing mental image. 👍

Nah, Christmas comes when Ian releases the G11 video

Should we hold your company somewhat responsible for that?

@@crominion6045 One of the most armed and least aggressive militias ever haha

As he said, it was expensive and a bit finnicky. Maybe not the best thing to trust everyone with.

pretty sure I’ll slice all my fingers working this thing

Didn't watch the vidja didja

If you chould re chamber it then you got a dmr

Proof that something that tries to do everything does nothing very well

The sandwich goes UNDER the ammo in the box!

Sandwiches go on _top._ Drinks go underneath, so the weight doesn't squash the brass. :-P

You shouldn't lock in freedom

Listen... :opens ammo box cover: ...pppprrttt, ahh, still good...

@@matthewjacobson5779 Was disappointed it wasn't a pssst, Nice hiss.

Like the Rear Sights on the M16A2, that Marines use just fine; but the Army said were too complicated ?

Just let the armorers configure it and I'll stick to just shooting it. A Marine grunt.

It has issues with ammunition since it opperated at lower pressure due to the different configurations

Should have packed it with crayons

(EDIT: to explain exactly what was wrong) The M16A1 was very reliable for frontline use and worked well in the mud. It was only the first M16 version that the US Ordnance company screwed up intentionally because they hated it and wanted to keep the M14. They were mad it wasn't procured under their control, and that it was privately developed by Armalite instead of the government's Springfield Armory. They ended up changing the powder that the rounds used to a cheaper surplus alternative. What this caused was an extreme pressure imbalance that the rifle wasn't designed for. So bolt velocity was substantially different. This caused lots of ejection failures, light strikes, and small remedial problems. On top of this they also refused to issue cleaning kits, under the impression you "don't need to clean the M16," which is obviously absurd and it's astonishing they did that. The rifle wasn't originally chrome lined either. That was actually by design, it's technically not necessary to do so, but it helps a lot especially in places like Vietnam. This was all quickly (I use that word loosely, quickly for the government at least) resolved with the M16A1 Turns out the babies throwing a hissy fit didn't get them their beloved M14 back, and only caused hundreds of G.I. to lose their lives because a perfectly good design got fucked up intentionally. The only good news is there was a congressional investigation into the matter, with several men arrested (not sure if they were actually charged), and the US Ordnance Department was completely dissolved.

@@weasle2904 I still think the US should have used the FN FAL. We'd still see new variations on that platform today and its a very good bush gun

@@user-xg8yy7yl1d If you're talking about the FAL vs M14, then no doubt I think the FAL would've been a wiser choice. But history has proven that the 5.56 round is far more practical in combat than larger full power rounds. The M16/AR-15 is also objectively better than the FAL. More accurate, ergonomic, lighter, easier to maintain, cheaper to manufacture, and it also is far more controllable. Not to mention the AR-15 also performs better in muddy conditions than the FAL.

@@weasle2904 I was talking about for Vietnam use specifically as in a counter insurgency fought primarily in the bush. Rhodesia found the FAL so effective in this that they kept their old beat up FALs and just kept maintaining and using them. Specifically in the vietnam era though the AR15 platform improved vastly after

​@@user-xg8yy7yl1d Rhodesia was a state with very little money to spare. I wouldn't buy into many of the old wives tales. Soldiers tend to complain and make excuses for everything, and myths spread quite far through word of mouth. Take the myth about the Garand ping getting people killed for example. If you weren't able to see the enemy through brush, it sure as hell didn't matter much if your bullets were deflected. This kind of problem is only really valid for hunting. 95% of all gunfire is suppressive in nature, and isn't intended to kill. This is important to keep in mind. The benefits offered by the M16 heavily outweighed it's few negatives. It's why the US adopted it. The US tested experimental M16 models with a select few squads to see the effectiveness of the weapon. And the improved lethality, and ease of movement the group had with the new weapons was astonishing to the US Military >"Specifically in the vietnam era though the AR15 platform improved vastly after" *Sigh* I will state, again, the M16 WAS improved DURING Vietnam and functioned FINE. The M16A1 fixed the issues it had, and worked beautifully during Vietnam.

Thanks!

And now 2 million!

@@ErikAdalbertvanNagel 2.66 million now

About damn time too...

@@thegoldencaulk2742 He will be posting a 1 million subscriber special video in a few days too.

I've learned so much about Guns and History because of Ian. Last time i was with a friend in the military Museum in Vienna i could talk about ages and explain allmost everything to my friend. This Channel is not simply about gun's it is also about History and mchanics and therefore i love it so much

@@VadarVadar The history and mechanics is why I watch this channel. I'm not really in guns otherwise, but the clever ways of getting things to work and tid bits around that make interesting videos

Well deserved Ian. Outstanding work. BTW I have the squirrel marked bayonet in pristine condition. In all of my bayo collection I ever knew it would be one of the super super stars but it makes me smile. Big fan of Mr Stoner.

Kraut is superior! At least until they run out of money

Nah, at least the american space magic can be made again. Just give us time

*Yankee space magic 🇺🇸

G11: hold my Jaegerbomb

@@kyleclark4449 *American space magic actually made it to space*

Well yes, but there have only been two more machine guns adopted since. The M249 (If you consider it a machine gun, rather than a SAW but that's just splitting hairs in a lot of ways) and the M240. However, the Mk19 GMG was designed by NOS Louisville in the late 60s, and that's KINDA a machine gun.

@@CxOrillion Domestically _designed_. The M249 and M240 are both based on FN designs.

@@MosoKaiser Yes, I know. And that's why I only mentioned that the MK 19 was domestically designed.

@@CxOrillion The M249 SAW has been redesignated M249 LMG*, FWIW… * ) [EDIT] Formally, "Light Machine Gun, 5.56 mm, M249"

NATO allies tend to be the R&D of the US

Yeah before stoned was a thing

@Beel Zebub he is right, the 's he used is for possession. the gun's time = it's time

Before any time. That thing is wild.

There are so many problems with this sentence.

Nah dude "this gun was way ahead of her time"

If thy prophecies foretold bear fruit gun Jesus will have blessed us with his knowledge he should also do the p90

are you serious?!

Yeah, "somewhat exhaustive" indeed :)

Maybe he he got high and forgot some details.

Kind of disappointed this wasn't uploaded on 4/20…

Nah, Cheech and Chong.

It interferes with the belt feed unit, not with the full auto capability. Jesus Christ, the comments here are full of morons who didn't watch the video.

Too bad Germany is absolutely emasculated.

I knew I'd heard that name. I found an OLD Alaskan Skinner out in the NM dessert years ago. They were made in the same city. Only the blade and guard was left. Beautiful knife restored.

I have a Solingen made 1796 Pattern sword and I just bought a brand new Linder Solingen Bowie knife. 200+ years of bladesmithing history right there! Thinking of getting the Solingen running wolf mark tattooed on my arm.

Tomoko way to stay on subject Adolf

The real Christmas present is the g11

Yeah, wait til you see what's actually posted on Christmas Day.

Deployed to jungle at their youth in late 1960s. Makeing it clear, these marines were too drunk, too stoned and to horny to aknowledge gub god's gift of a firearm they were given.

Why twice? Short term memory loss?

Get well soon

Dying will be the ultimate way to call the whole thing off

I hope they atleast gave you some lean for it!!!

Last time that happened, they gave me a trachonomny!!!

This channel is far more educational than most educational channels.

​@@EstevanMurai Yeah sure of that. Ian is not this: Look, I got that most tactical weapon and I'am most bad ass, Gun Show. It's a show of human ingenuity and technical understanding.

@FuLLeFFekT1 what?

LilMalygos you take the stock off and shorten the barrel. Fairly simple. Maybe even put the old wire stock on.

@@xl7667 you are not correct. From what I know, it have a number of differences, some of which seen from outside like different kind of flash hider, but also there is no firing rate reducer, different rifling in barrel etc.

LilMalygos well yes, it did have a slightly faster rate of fire, but I meant generally and not specifically. I mean those are the main changes to it from a 74.

Just so proud of you guys for not saying "Krinkov" 👌

Blastmaster1972 That’s what they want you to believe. It’s really a “secret squirrel “

"Eichhörnchen" ,not Eickhorn.

It's all part of the global conspiracy to make squirrel unpronounceable in any other language.

That video is coming in a while.

Likewise. Didn't know of the LMG at first, until at one point, this real-life counterpart shows up out of nowhere.

To be honest, it looks more utilitarian than the AK-47.

@@ironraccoon3536 I love the way it looks, but it certainly has the kind of *heavy machine* look you'd see in a factory.

@@MarikHavair Ah, agreed. This gun looks great.

Iron Raccoon the utilitarian look is what makes it look great it’s like an mp5 it’s straight to the point quality and functionality first design is what make it one of the most aesthetically pleasing guns in my eyes

@@invictusprima4437 I think the reason this gun looks so good is because the metal and non-metal are similar colours. It's also similar to the SPAS-12 in appearance, so that's a thing.

There'd be some sort of DMR form for sure.