I say this with love. Ben, you yourself are cheating on slappies. There shouldn’t be any lifting of the front or back truck. The nose hitting the curb is what is supposed to get the front truck on the curb and make the slap that slappies are named for. The true test if you can do them is to try them with your feet right on the bolts. If you’re bored one day give them a shot. Roll up at a 45 degree angle or more (oddly enough more is easier, but you grind less the more straight on you hit it). Your nose should bash similar to when getting into slappy crooks. And like you said, there shouldn’t be any lifting. As your front truck locks in, putting a little more weight on your front foot and being weightless on the back foot should guide the truck onto the curb naturally. One of the best tips I have is to think of them as fakie 50-50 stalls in the mini ramp. It’s the opposite of regular stance 50-50s The leading truck gets on first. The trailing truck follows. When you figure out the proper way, they’ll feel way more consistent. Especially with feebles. Figuring out how to get the nose to slap on the way into feebles was weird, but I’m glad I did. I used to eat shit all the time trying them the way you did them in the video. They feel way better now.
All great tips, I did the back truck-first approach for ages, until I learned slappy crook into back 5-0. In the process of learning that trick I picked up slappy crook to 50-50, and then the front truck-first, proper slappy method came. Think of it like slappy crook to back 50, but keep your weight on your toes (as opposed to standing up on your front foot heel as you would to get up on top of a slappy crook). And yes, a deep carve is everything; it will naturally push you from the sharper crook angle into back 50
You want the curb to be taller than your nose. The ones that sit lower are actually harder to snappy. The carve in method Ben was talking about will help though. You also need that same carving technique for slappying stuff at ledge height. Otherwise, if it’s just an average curb/parking block you can get into it by just bashing.
i think it's cheating too, the real one is when you don't use neither your nose and your tail. You have too put both feets on bolts. Only way to don't do a tic tac, to really smash the curb. Of couse you can do it like you want, but i swear the sensation is way more intense and fun when you'r doing those like this. Try it, have a good day !
@@ElisainNature Dan does slappies on tall ledges to where you have to lift up the front truck. But when he does them on regular curbs he does the legit
At the age of 34 and 20 years of skating Im trying to learn slappies. I'm still a toddler at this point! Having fun trying what seems so simple. Thanks for the tips
In my opinion this is not the "correct" way to do then. This is the way Dan Corrigan does em. Where he smashes that front truck into the curb. It works, but if you watch the way Jef Hartsel does em, that’s the best way ..in my opinion. Looks smoother. At 3:00 it actually looks like you’re lifting your nose..? I always keep my back foot closer to the bolts than to the tail. That makes it harder to cheat. Cause I’m not able to push down the tail so easy.
yea when i do em, my front truck does slap before my back but it’s a split second, im basically just power sliding onto the curb instead of doing what ben looks like he’s doing, slappies to me are all about big angles and heel to toe weight shift
Its gotta be bashed. I used to slightly lift when I realized I was scared. Once my balls grew I started bashing them in tight angles. Gotta keep the front foot behind the front bolts to avoid any cheating.
@@18JR78 I don’t agree. In my opinion it’s easier to cheat the longer back your front foot is places. And it’s also easier to bend up the wheels by keeping the front foot over the bolts. But after a while I started moving it a bit behind the bolts. Then you’re more ready to take a new trick off the curb. Yeah, I feel you. Gets more and more difficult to pull it off the bigger your balls get though. 😕 🥜 I got a micro-penis with two gigantic balls, so I know how hard it can be 😞🐛
I never lift my front truck up, just go straight to a curb and treat it like a wall and then slap it like a powerslide motion against it. This way works for my both fs and bs.
Got to the video pretty early so I figure I'll leave a comment for once. Been lovin' the videos. Definitely a great overall vibe, nice and relaxed and informative. Keep up the awesome vids man! 👍
Looks like half and half. If you look back part it has a gate to go into the garden. Really interesting that set up if its his Hard guess but maybe its one of those community made parks with garden and a court, maybe
honestly It just looks like you’re doing a slappy but not fast enough and not getting a hard enough carve in, slappies pretty much always have your front truck hitting first, granted you shouldn’t “lift” with your front truck but if you go fast and carve hard enough you’ll essentially powerslide in, jason adams is a great example, but he still does get on with his front truck first, just not really leveraging with the front truck as much like a tic-tac up. to me you just need more angle, at least on your backside 50-50’s.
To help fix your achilles or ankle problems, try riding a road/mountain bike while standing with the balls of your feet on the pedals and butt off the seat. This will activate your calves and other supporting elements around the ankle, including the achilles. Bike riding is also great for quad development which ultimately helps to stabilize the knee. Plus riding a bike is very low impact.
If you have bad knees the LAST THING you wanna do is be fucking around on a bike skateboarding has rehabbed my knee eons more than anything else biking is bad strain on the knee. Granted I'm talking bmx
@@bp4861 anything you said is ultimately wrong. As a skier and skater which are both terrible for your knees. Biking is one of the best things you can do for your knees. Running is bad cuz it's high impact. Skating isn't bad or your knees but you're only using a limited amount of muscle groups and it doesn't help with rehab. Road biking is really good for your knees. Low impact, builds up muscle all around your knee which helps with your cartilidge and helps stabilize your knee. The fact you even made this comment is beyond me. If you have super bad knee pain from jumpers knee the best thing you can do to get rid of that pain is ride a bike. and Yes BMX would probably not be good for your knees.
Excellent points! As a hockey player / ice skater as well as skateboarder, I have noticed that running is good for cardio but high impact on the joints and riding the bike is good for building lower body strength around the major joints while still being low impact. Riding a stationary bike at any intensity is most certainly one of the best things you can do when you are injured. Sitting upright with your hands off the bars also builds core strength.
Sorry guy for once I agree with the people in the comments you're still cheating. The first time I tried to do a sloppy the real way I was so surprised that I didn't just go flying for whatever reason bashing at the curb actually works I used to think it was a pretty lame wave describing it until I actually tried it fucking bash that shit and you will get up there and it feels amazing it's the craziest and surprisingly smoothest feeling. If you do slap you the right way it doesn't even feel like you're bashing the curb it's so freaking smooth it's like freaking amazing it's freaking like so freaking tight freaking awesome freaking do a slappy bro
I just like to think of front truck first and back truck first as different tricks. Leading in with the front is a slappy(ask Jon Lucero), and the back is some kind of a wallride to 5050.
Ben, I had the exact same achilles pain for over a year, hurts like 1000 little needles pushing right into the achilles right? Pretty sure it is insertional achilles tendonitis in your case aswell. This video helped me: James Dunne - If your Achilles tendonitis isn't healing... WATCH THIS NOW - this video helped Loading the tendon has helped me a lot, I combined it with eccentric calve exercises after a while. Of course I did other things on a regular basis too and still do all of this: foam rolling the calve and the footbed, stretching the whole back chain like calves and hamstrings and butt. Eating a lot of healthy stuff, much protein, good carbs and fats, supplementing omega3 and vitamin d3+k2
broh that is another cheating version.... you lift up your front truck. you go into feeble because you lift up the front truck. front truck must ride onto the curb and you will eliminate the feeble problem. i agree with your back truck explanation. but i really don't care which ever way. cool to see your version and interpretation of your slappy
Stop calling learners, posers, even if you are talking about yourself. Encourage dont discourage. People are hard enough on themselves, they dont need words like poser always being tossed around when someone isnt doing something proper. A poser has always been a label reserved for people that dont actually skate. Lets not use it against our learners. I remember being picked on and called a poser because I was riding a variflex while they rode Santa Cruz boards, and My stickers came from a plastic egg out of a candy machine at K-Mart and theirs came from the skate shop. none of which has anything to do with actually riding. It was not pleasant and it just meant I had to skate alone and that made it so I couldnt learn much, because I had nobody to learn from. its not like today when you can turn on stream or dwnld some video. I digress, and I will say, I am glad you are actually skating again and not pushing products. I hope the heel is ok. Tighten up them laces Ben!
Dude he's making fun of the word you poser LOL. A lot of us know what it's like to be on the receiving end, especially if you were just getting into skating in the 90s like I was. You were a poser if you had baggy pants or if you didn't have baggy pants, had skate shoes or didn't have skate shoes, etc. etc. It's definitely something us older skaters think is ridiculous now and he's jokingly using it. I learned by constantly asking these older kids that were Fking jerks to me the whole time and I put up with all their laughing and condescending remarks and they'd never help me. I would go home and practice in the dark in my backyard every night and tell myself that I was going to do what I love no matter what. Eventually, this poser was kickflipping 6 sets and trying stuff they were too comfy and scared to try, at half their age and size. So believe me dude, I get it.
I use to cheat my slappies too. However, I was always under the impression that a real legit slappy didn't really involve lifting your nose at all. It's more about carving into it, weight transfer, and getting your front truck on there first.
It's a carve combined with a chinese nollie, I got better at slappys the same time my backside carve improved in surfing and wasn't able to do frontsides as well.
the way I learned how to do proper slappies was doing it like a wallride, the first few times I was going almost directly at the curb and jamming it like a wall ride. Not great advice for a beginner who most likely can't wallride but its how I learned. Gotta be aggressive and smash the hell out of it
Get a good physical therapist to help you through your achilles tendonitis. I'm only two years younger than you and I've gone through this injury twice now and the only thing that helped me get through it was actually doing the exercises prescribed and not resting too much. My PT actually recommended that I keep skating because inactivity is even worse for something like tendonitis because the muscle and ligament just stays tight instead of loosening up like it does when warmed up with movement/exercise. Warming up before skating, a static stretching routine and after skating (stretching my big toe in addition to calves really helps a lot), getting hands-on treatment from a PT, massage gun for your calves, and doing exercises to strengthen your achilles and ankle. That is how you treat it. Hip mobility will also help improve your symptoms as well as getting some really good insoles for your shoes to actually give your arches the support they need. I just recovered from this again after falling into bad no stretching habits for a while but it's already starting to go away because I'm doing the right things again. Not even sure if you will read this but I hope it helps if you do.
Had trouble committing when learning them, had to just tell myself carve hard and revert just as I was about to hit the curb. Throw in a little toe grab on your tail for that extra scoop up for the rear truck, your front will get on just fine.
you can do them by not lifting the front wheel too!! just pinch on the toes on both feet! that way you put your front truck into the grind first, but it feels like just riding into the grind
im learning these and i do the "cheater" stance but i swore you're supposed to carve/grind into it with the front truck rolling up and grinding first. am i just doing a crook setup but trying to do 5050 or something?
Roll up almost straight at the curb. It’s counter-intuitive but for some reason it works. I took a while for me to stop pussing out, but I get on curbs easier that way
The crook was proper but need some redemption clips of proper 5050 slappies without lifting the front truck. The 5-0’s would be nice tho with your current approach
On your back 50/50 slappy you don't hit the curb with your front wheel. I'd say not the best way to do it. I got the front 50/50 slappy figuret out really well. Front foot on the bolts. I'm still struggling on my back ones, your tip for the back truck could help me. But I'm not giving up on hitting the curb with the wheel.
I found myself doing like these little like S turns kinda like ya would do before carving a big bowl if that makes sense. Come in straight at the curb and at the last second stay low and do that little carve and slap the SHIT outta that curb. That would be my tip. I started learning them last year at 43 and man are they fucking fun
Ben I hate to tell you but you are still not doing a legit 50/50 slappy because you lift up your front truck . A legit slappy your front truck bashes into the curb first and then your back truck follows .
I used to slightly lift when I realized I was scared. Once my balls grew I started bashing them in full speed and tight angles. Gotta keep the front foot behind the front bolts to avoid any cheating. The faster the easier.
Hmm you do it like a transition way where you lift the nose and you back truck makes contact. Whereas I see most bash their front truck 45 degrees and powerslide their back truck on to the curb
Rewatching this, I kinda prefer to do bs slappies like that, I mean bs feebles are done like that, because now I think bs smith or 5-0 slappies may be easy that way
Kids, on bside slaps reach your rear hand down like you are gonna bert slappy and don't get close to the curb! Fside get mad, and goose it up at 45° like a nollie thruster, and drive that front foot until you are off. Take it to a vertical curb when you feel tuff..
Work on getting your back truck on top of the curb next maybe. I disagree wide stance is cheating, just a different technique. Don't think anyone can slappy a ledge in ollie position, but ollie position is better for combos. In the end none of it matters, were talking slappies here
