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Nice deep breath there at the end Sean LOL! You got this!! 🤣

I was one of those guys who used to try to lower my lead shoulder to the ball, and failed miserably at it. Not to mention the pain it caused in my lower back. Once I started doing as you guys suggested my lower back stopped and my strike improved greatly. Thanks for confirming that I did the right thing. I stopped trying to emulate the Men's Tour and learned my own swing. If I emulate anyone, it's the women's tour, they are closer to us amateurs in terms of club head speed and distance. Cheers.

Would like to see some videos breaking down the "over the top" from the inside style of swing of Bobby Jones, Sam Snead, Arnold Palmer, Abraham Ancer, Hovland and lots of others old and new. Dragging it away low and inside then lifting it and almost throwing it like skipping a rock release where shaft on downswing is perpendicular to torso. And shaft achieves right arm intersection before release. Appears over the top but hits all the perfect downswing markers. And appears to exit hard left after impact. Would love to see this with the tour swing animations. Thanks!!

10:44 Damn that was unexpectedly intense xD

Do you have data that separates right eye dominant from left eye dominant players? 85% of tour players are left eye dominant and only 20% of amateurs are left eye dominant. Makes you wonder if copying tour pro positions is really what most people should be doing.

totally confused now.....based on other RU-vid instructors....been trying get shoulder pointed down more for over a year....this looks more natural....so will definitely try....

I always had the concept in mind that the shoulders rotate perpendicular to the spine angle set at address. While trying to keep the hands and club in front of the chest, no further "deeper" than the trail shoulder. The old concept I was told 25 years ago was move the front shoulder into the air space the trail shoulder once occupied, while maintaining the same spine angle and tilt. It was physically impossible but was a great concept then.

A very common exercise couches give to their students: Club across your shoulders, rotate, and the club should point towards the ball!!! One of several exercises spreading misconceptions, causing a lot of unneccesary strain, making it impossible to learn a good golfswing. Other important concepts that causes players to introdce unnecessary strain when practiced incorrectly are "width" and "depth". Thank you guys for giving us these clarifications! 👍

Love the real videos of pros! Great content as always

Tom Saguto comes to mind...

Voice audio has been really weird the last couple videos. Sounds garbled. Great instruction, as usual. Thanks!

I like these length videos much better than the shorts that you’ve put out the last year or so. I really get even more helpful information out of you full lesson videos. Thank you guys for all the free content that you provide us.

4:36 that highest hand there is DJ lol....

Lead arms moving the club and not the shoulders in the takeaway, and lead arm too high across the chest in amateurs. Been working on this myself. If my bicep feels lower on my chest my shoulders turn better if I lift the arms it’s done

THE TRUTH!!!! 10:45 - 10:47

Tried it on the course today and felt my better shots really had some power behind them....had some really bad shanks though as will take time with this swing change

Uhhhh… as someone who has always attempted to get my shoulders steep in the backswing, this is making me smack my forehead wondering if that’s the exact reason my ball striking has absolutely sucked this year. Now I need to get to the range…

I understand the concept but I’ve suffered from a flat shoulder turn where my hands are too low (much like your handshake analogy). How do I overcome this.

A question: I have worked on having my arm pits like inline with about an inch inside the toeline of my shoes. Now I heard George Gankas claiming that leads to standing up? But im not standing up. Not moving my head back or not being able to hold my buttline. Whats your opinion?

Shows how much trash instruction there is out there on RU-vid. You guys backup your instruction with solid science. I love it.

What do you think of Carl Lohren shoulder move? That the golf swing starts with the left shoulder moving forward and everything else will follow.

You guys are great and educational. Learned so much from you guys! Keep up the great work!

like your channel . please work on the audio. it is really low during your conversations then loud during animation. Thanks

Should I keep my chin up to allow left shoulder to move under it? I am broad shoulder.

Does it mean that Ben Hogan was kind of wrong with his pane of glass swing ? As I was trying to point my shoulders at the ball for last year and half .. Or I got Ben Hogan wrong? thanks

Could you clear something up for me. After watching a few professionals using a steering wheel on the golf back swing. Some say turn the wheel to the right like your turning a car to the right. And some some say turn to the wheel to the left like your turning the car to the left. In your model pro verses us mere mortals. Which is correct and why.

My Problem is that my head tilt towards to ball, so I get a reverse spine. If I feel my head tilt more to the right, like water is running out of my ear, my swing get very much inside

Gents, do you have a video that shows how to raise the grip through impact to improve ball striking contact?

I am struggling to blend moving left shoulder back and to recenter

Truth! Matt, I sent you an email a couple of weeks ago. Did you get it?

Proof that the "starting a lawnmower" drill is causing more harm to the swing, than helping it

I would like to know what thoughts the professionals have when they are at address. Is it target, or a swing thought?⛳

I couldn't focus on the information. I kept looking at Mike's shiny new belt buckle.

I feel like Kurt kitayama inspired this video lol

Hi guys just found this video - I’m guilty of trying to steepen my backswing by getting that left shoulder down - trying to fix the issue of a too flat backswing ! Was hitting ball reasonable before implementing the left shoulder down, now strikes are awful 😫 This is best video I’ve seen on this issue with simple explanation - thanks very much, oven the range to practice the new move 😁👍 All the best, Ken, London

Do you have a squaring the face face drill?

Could you guys do a video on optimal position that the left arm ideally bicep is in relation to the chest. I’ve been pretty consistent on a one plane swing. I’m trying to incorporate a feel in my swing in relation to lead arm and rib cage without having to do any dropping of the arms anything to that extreme.

Another excellent video thanks boys... I would love to see a video about release patterns and match ups with swing styles and ball flights. The recent video on foot preesure actually allowed me to feel my hands working in the swing and the results have been tremendous so far, so seeing some release concepts would add to the quiver.

Was the breathing at 10:44 meant to be left in the edit?

This is interesting…could the “feel” of shoulder down to ball help the over rotator where the hands/arms get too far behind body in backswing?

The head actually drops just a bit

Until I saw this video, I was making the downward move. Not any more. But I have to be honest, I was making the downward move TO GET MY SHOULDER OUT OF THE WAY SO I COULD KEEP MY EYE ON THE BALL during the backswing. That's all! Otherwise, I would hunch. I'm 6'1" so I always feel like I need to be closer to the ball!

When did the shoulder point direction discussion even get started? Why is anyone even talking about it? I thought you were just supposed to turn and keep approximately the same spine angle that you have at address, depending on what the club is.

Just started watching great video, most golfers should move their head more than the Pros! why cos 90% of all golfers do not position their head in the set up anywhere near where most pros do.(think Jack N as extreme of range) Most golfers set up with the head way forward using a tour pro ball position and looking at it with their right eye,therefore its going to move a lot to get near tour pros at top of backswing Solution is Set Up better! but its boring so nobody works on it.

You okay there at the end... lol

This just blows every, “training,” tidbit, unsolicited I might add, that I’ve been blessed with.

That power breathing outro transition though 😂 Regardless, amazing video. Subscribed and hooked!

My guy having some kind of existential realization before the outro

I got the tip to point my shoulders at the ball from a RU-vid video 6 years ago. I feel so betrayed because this was sabotaging me ever since.

Your instruction is partly to blame for this error Some golfers misinterpret the need to recenter early in the backswing often fail to move their left shoulder across the body.

I just keep thinking about how Nicklaus, Snead, et al. always talked about getting the shoulder under the chin. Nicklaus was particularly adamant about that being his checkpoint for "completing the backswing," although I agree that's more a term of art and perception, in the context of how the swing is understood now (with recentering and transition going on well before whatever a person sees as the "top" of the backswing). But the point is, every great player in the game's history would've thought it was pretty much nonsense to try to keep the lead shoulder around the same vertical plane it was (face-on) at address. (Some of you may remember Carl Lohren's "One Move" thing, which helped a lot of players. For those who don't, it had to do with making the lead shoulder movement the first and controlling movement in the takeaway. Right from the start.) What amazes me is how much modern instruction involves these assertions (dip the shoulder, point the shoulder at the ball, keep it in the same space, "don't turn your shoulders") that make their way around the internet, various YT teachers pick them up, things become part of the collective jargon, and hardly anybody says "wait a minute, maybe Nicklaus and Hogan and Snead, and a pile of others too, weren't _totally_ clueless about the golf swing." If a teacher is going to tell people to totally ignore something those guys said was important, to me it goes without saying that this puts a giant burden of proof on that teacher. But so many people just eat up anything they find out here now. That's the beauty of what AMG does -- it's all quantified, no guessing. One addendum here: I do think it's important to distinguish between what "head still" or "head steady" means and what it means to have the back of your neck, or the top of your spine, moving around very much during the swing. Nicklaus agreed that the best understanding of "head still" was more like "quiet" or steady, not rigid and tense and avoiding even swiveling around the neck, and that good players could have a little counterbalancing going on (which in the old reverse-C days meant a slight downward and backward movement). But a lot of what's tabbed as "head movement" in modern pros is really the swivel of the front side (the face) with the top of the spine as an axis. If you put a cursor where the back of the neck is (or would be, looking through from the front) on the players in this video, you'll see hardly any movement on the backswing. The excessive movement that can give players a lot of trouble is really more the swaying and tipping of the top of the spine. And even with players who move off the ball a little -- Faldo comes immediately to mind, although most of his movement is also swivel -- it's pretty remarkable how steady that gets once the player has really set in on the downswing. But still, as even Nicklaus used to say, you don't want that steadiness to come from tension and an effort to kill movement in general.

Everyone knows that you need to shift or transfer your weight to the right before you start your down swing but could you make an video of how mechanically to do so, more technical on the move you need to make to shift

I was practising the exact wrong thing all along - lead shoulder to the ball! And I was wondering why the heck my head always lowered too much in the backswing (dipping), why I was falling off balance towards the ball, why I couldn't make a fuller turn back, why I couldn't get deeper with my hands and most importantly of ALL... Why I kept coming over the top in the downswing no matter what I did! After watching this video and seeing the info and facts, and understanding the concept of it all (which was very well presented and explained by the both of you), that one does NOT turn the lead shoulder down to the ball - EUREKA! Thank you so very much!! Now I just need to go practice and do the drills to get rid of my bad lead-shoulder-to-ball habit I've ingrained over the past few years! 🤦🤦

You again saved me from hours of senseless drills. Greetings from Germany

If golf was seen from a horizontal plane, where would the ball be in relation to your body?

The Goat? Didn’t realize how much Jack resembled Tiger

Shaun, you ok? 10:45

McConnell ,Graham and other Rinos might have to create a new party with Cheney and Romney and now I understand why Mitch needs such a big detail.

Best content on RU-vid. Thank you.

Great and much needed video. Gankas on youtube has everyone fucked up!

"Shake hands with the left hand" was something I remember from Harvey Penick's "Little Red Book" ... your real value add is don't sway - keep your head within a half head's width.. Thank You again - your content - your demonstrated truths about the golf swing - has helped my understanding of my golf swing and the swing I try to convey to students on the lesson tee

With exemption, Fred Couples in old video talks about his hands and arms backswing almost done with shoulder still not rotating.

My lower back is fused, how do I come back down to make square contact and follow threw with chest facing target ?

From that position at the top, does shoulder stay behind ball during transition?

When thinking about swing plane and grip what is your thought on different planes and grips for different body types and build… I think Mike Adam’s has a series on this.

I couldn’t help but look at how textbook tiger woods grip was. It’s beautiful

excellent instruction...rectifying the myth out there abt shoulder to ball..tried it on the range...played yesterday...solid contact...dropped 5 strokes on my round...I play off an 11 hcp index...this instruction will get me to single digit very soon...lol...tks gents...keep it coming

This video changed my game completely cannot thankyou enough . Explained so clearly amazing guys

This practice drill also makes the re-centering movement comfortable, natural, to me.

Thanks for all the info. Is there a video on hand position and shaft angle (not shaft lean) through the down swing into impact. The left arm stuck or off the body would effect it as well as early extension. This is something I’m confused about

hey guys, how much shoulder/chest rotation or shoulder opening do the pros have at impact. My understanding is it is not really that much but actually more shoulder tilt and side bend? Do you have any videos covering this.

Your material is fantastic. You've debunked decades of myths and virtually every segment has been extremely helpful. Do you have a perspective on customary advice to sling your relaxed arms and the club around the swing arc and through the ball, resisting the centrifugal pull of the arms and club by leaning away throughout the circle. Does that swing thought have any place in increasing swing speed or is it another myth?

Thank you Great video. Does the shoulder touch the chin late on in the backswing?

Thank you! This single concept/move. addresses a dozen issues. I've been trying to make a bigger body turn (with less arm runoff at the top) and unfortunately, it did steepen my shoulder pivot resulting in a steeper AoA. Made transitioning very difficult too. And Shaun, thanks for re-enacting my pre-chipping breathwork. Haha!

Thanks for the reminder, I found you on Instagram as well but you should include your 'Gram link in the video description. My two young kids are starting PGA Jr League golf this evening if the rains hold up. I'm hopeful it will turn into one day being able to golf with them like it did for me and my dad. I've used some of your videos to show my kids the basics of the golf swing. Thanks for all the excellent content.

Love these videos. One question i have on this particular one is id like to achieve this move without my arms getting too deep and stuck?

You guys are great on detail that all can understand. If possible could you show using a steering wheel backswing. Professional verses a amateur. Or a tennis racket the handle shows the rotation left or right. I believe most of us amateurs rotate the wheel the wrong way and get stuck on the downswing, causing all sorts of problems. Very interested on hearing you views on this mussel memory method, or in simple terms in the back swing do we turn or rotate the steering wheel to the right or left and do we try to rotate or turn the wheel right or left on the down swing. Why I ask after a bone marrow transplant I lost my mussel memory. PS I'm a swinger not a hitter.

Excellent video guys! My new coach just had me working on this after our first session and it was unbelievable what it did for my swing. I also gained 7-15 yards per club as well from the increased weight transfer. The hand shake is genius. I’m going to use it daily.

Great video and drill. I am curious what is the ideal angle (in degrees) of the shoulders at the top of the swing? Use a six or seven as the example (I realize the longer clubs will have a less steep or shallower shoulder turn at the top). Thanks for all of the great instruction and explanations which are backed by great research by you guys.

I try and get into a Hogan-type position at the top, which looks very similar to this. Great stuff as always!

Wish you make video showing what & how you use training aides!

What happened at 10:44 to 10:48 ? Looks like you are in pain?

Always enjoy your videos! What are the mechanics of the pros that allow them to hit their desired direction? What are the must do’s to controlling the club face at impact? Thanks for your wonderful insight to improving our swings.

Hey guys could you do a video on how the pros use their left wrist in the down swing, and is it right that they increase the flex in the wrist in the down swing ,cheers guys

Great video. Question for you guys about this. I struggle with the sway at times. Does the right foot planting make this move easier or is it something else?

Thanks for another great video. A question on the shallowing vid. When the arm lowers and connects with the ribcage how long does it stay connected thru the rest of the swing?

Thanks for the great videos. Please demonstrate how to keep left shoulder down when starting the down swing.

This was an awesome video, I’ve been working on this and I gotta say it’s going great. It’d be great if you did a similar video for the downswing 😏

These videos are good you guys keep getting better and better at articulating the information I can instantly start picturing it all happening!

My new favorite channel Thankyou guys

The shoulder does move down AND across. If you just move across you will have a very flat shoulder plane with very bad results.

Realized I was doing this incorrectly, has been a game changer since I started to address it. A really helpful tip I have found is putting a glove under the left arm pit, sticking just out the front. Then, if your posture/setup is good, turning while keeping the glove from falling, helps make a proper turn. Can also do it on the course by balling up your sleeve under your arm. Really has been a game changer, and something I fall back on when thing's are getting out of sync.

Wow. This is a new video? Great to see you back!

Love the channel! As follow-up to your absolutely brilliant hip rotation videos, would love to see your views and analysis on the inclination of the hips and how it relates to rotation (and maybe some pros vs ams). Thanks!

Thank you so much You guys helped me a lot.❤❤❤❤

I’ve always struggled getting my hands deeper in the backswing. Just thinking about this topic, would the lead shoulder being too tilted toward the ball in the backswing contribute to shallow depth at the top? Seems like in theory it’d be way harder to move your hands deeper with a really steep shoulder turn.

Great video. Makes huge sense. Here's a question, I have a choice for a lesson with my local pro or to get some online tuition from AMG. I'm returning to golf after a long hiatus but still relatively young (40) and fit. I'm 6'3 and a shade under 200lbs in y'all Yankee weight units. It's tight fiscal times these days so I can only choose 1. I'm in the process of building a backyard practice range so I can practice twice a week and play every 2nd weekend.

Handshake thought on takeaway instantly transformed my swing! Thanks, I can now move on to tweaking things instead of finding root cause of my terrible swing.

Great video! I Had some of my best range and golf rounds last few days. More power and distance. My Back is still a problem working on conditioning, I am fit but lower back lumbar issue. Toe touches are the worst for me. Mobility otherwise is excellent for my age,54. I have a question. Why would 90 degree feet, no foot flare help my swing. I have flared my feet in hope of freeing up my hips with minimal results. Feet 90 degrees to the target line appears to have transformed my swing. Actually less strain with no flare. Would love to hear why this may work for my body type, movement tendencies. I experimented and really strike the ball better with squared feet. Thoughts?