STOP the thefts.Fob in a tin can? FIESTA ST 

What did you think of the video people?

10sec in and the answer to your question is to shoot thieves, it really cuts down on re-offenders.

The only way to deter Ford thefts is to put a switch inline with the CAN bus wire from the OBD. That's because on this model, they don't boost the key signal on these models. They use the OBD port to turn off the alarm and then code new keys. If you hide a switch under the dash that cuts the CAN bus line to the OBD, they would have to get better access to the car to look for it which would set the alarm off for all of the time they are looking.

Great video modern technology there are always a way round it I'm from the veihcle security industry I think it might be time to fit the aftermarket imobilisers which work via touch key which first appeared in the 80s and maybe additional alarm systems to go with it I remember when cosworths were the thiefs target and fitting all sorts of devices to prevent theft a separate adr cards worked as well great trick with the tin have a good day thanks for Sharing

New to the channel subscribed today it's possibly one of the best car channels on RU-vid it's up there with living life fast and Lee Lockwood channels...keep it up Steve

Another good way of protecting your key less entry key fob is to place it in a microwave , blocks any unauthorized incoming signal. Please note mate sure you remove the keys before you re-heat you pies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or just find a old non working one at the local tip ////// job done.

Thank you so much!! I’m planning on getting a Ford Fiesta so this is very helpful info!! 💓

After watching your video I tried using aluminium foil to block the signal on my keyless entry 2016 Focus. It worked a treat from any distance including next to the windows. Only one layer of cooking foil was enough to do the trick. Thieves foiled ! (sorry about that, but I had to say it).

Wish I had of seen this video before my car was stolen. Have learned a lot about how these thieves operate now. There used to be one method where thieves could record your fob's signal and play it back from another device, but newer systems safeguard against this. The method that's very common now is simply amplifying your fob's signal in real-time. I now use a Faraday box for my keys, have a Faraday wallet, installed the Ghost II immobilizer, and have a hidden tracker which is monitored by a security company (who immediately alert me if the car is moved without being started). I also have a wheel clamp I use when I have to go abroad for any length of time. They keyless entry/ignition system is flawed, and car dealers/manufactures should be warning people at the point of purchase. I bought another expensive car - it'll be a cold day in hell before I let thieves dictate what car I can/can't buy. By the way - also remember to protect your spare key!!

Stumbled upon your entertaining and informative video. You kinda had me at gum tin. Was sorry that tin didn’t work but you’ve inspired me to try some of the small tends I’ve kept for rainy day up cycling and craft fun. Thank you! 🙏

Thanks Steve! Jean Paul Gaultier worked a treat (even without a lid).

spent the last three hours watching your st videos mate impressed keep ya videos coming tony adplumbing

Great vid made me aware of driving around mossside liverpool and cheetham hill

I've had far to much coffee ☕today great video thanks again 👍

Great vlog steve, very good tests, I use tinfoil and then put them in a Faraday wallet, £4, of Amazon.

All you need to do is find something which completely blocks the frequency used by the keyfob. The problem is thieves with good kit have the ability to boost the signal from the key, so many Faraday pouches and biscuit tin / alu foil DIY methods don't sufficiently inhibit the signal to prevent the keyless theft. You need to buy a good Faraday pouch with a high signal attenuation. The relay attack works by having a pair of transceivers which operate on the same frequency of the car transceiver and the fob. They 'bridge' between car and key as well as wirelessly link to each other, allowing a thief to stand by the car with one unit and another to walk around a building until their unit detects the key signal. They can boost the weak keyfob signal so even hiding it inside metal boxes doesn't always work. Some of the relay kits can also learn and impersonate the real keyfob allowing thieves to lock/unlock the car at whim. Once the immobiliser is disabled, anyone with the right tool can code a new key from the CAN port. You're seriously recommended to physically relocate the OBD port. I've done so, it's easy, and also perhaps install a nonfunctional fake in its place which looks identical but does nothing. (I am contemplating wiring data pins to the battery...)

My 1989 Fiesta has a key which does nothing but unlock doors and fire up the ignition, manually! You can probably get into it using a block of cheese but I have a steering lock I'm hoping will continue to deter scumbags. Granted, I don't get many toys inside to play with, but you don't see me having to lug tins of baked beans and mints around as security devices. Lol

Excellent advice. Thank you.

Where I live in Birmingham they just point a knife at you

Good tip Steve. Love the Welsh accent.....hope u like my Irish one!!! Was in Wales in 2002...very nice (Rhyll)

Another great video Steve keep it up

Just a thought what If you lined one of the tins that didn’t block the signal with tin foil ??

Great video , and very interesting 👍

Hi Steve you need to make a Faraday box, this isolates all radio signals and is super cheap easy. Any of the tins and wind copper wire around the outside of the tin until the signal is blocked. Maybe line inside and outside of tin with Aluminium foil also as this boosts the blocking ability of the materials, seems like it is all down to personal experimentation as very worthwhile stopping scumbags stealing your pride and joy for a few pennies/minutes isn't it ;-)

with renault if u lock it with ur key and not keyless entry the keyless is off and u cant steal it. does this not work on the fiesta ?

Bless for this .

Nice vid mate

How do I get the crims to steal my wife’s polo so we can buy a fiesta st?

Very helpful diolch

Mr. Bean had the right idea of theft protection just take the steering wheel off problem solved Lol 😂

So you have to put the key in some sort of signal blocking package or tin and hide it somewhere also because the more motivated have been breaking into houses for keys. It happened to my brother but they couldn't find the key so stole his work van and daughters car. Of course this could turn violent too.

What’s he using on the lock outside to try and open the door

I don't quite get what this is trying to do. The issue with fob-jacking is with keyless entry, not keyless start? And to really test these solutions you'd have to test a keyless entry?

Does the ST have that keyless start system as standard? I'm very glad our Fiesta doesn't have that. Unless you can remote control your car (like the BMW 5 series), who orders that sh** anyway?

I seen a you tube video last week about a company that can program a software pin combo into your ecu. Basically you pick a combo of buttons (any buttons you chose) that you need to press before you hit the start button. Self configurable and doesn't effect warrenty.

I have heard this works as my mate tried it but he said the battery on his key fob was going flat quicker, don't know if that is an issue just saying !

i have the good old turn key to start

Cool little tip, I wonder how effective it is against the thieves technology. Non relevant question, how useful do you find your boost gauge in the vent on a daily basis? It's something I want to do but where I have the steering wheel my hand blocks my view of the vent. Wondered if it was the same for you and if it bothered you as a daily feature.

I guess the car holds the immobiliser off once it has the signal for a length of time. Maybe worth opening and closing the door to provoke it to search for the fob signal. Back in the day I’d hide a switch under the seat that broke the feed to the ignition coil. The problem with any security measures you put in place means it’s more likely that the scrote has to come into your house.

Just to give you a little tip you can make a wooden box any size and line it with tin foil also work done that for my 2016 s-max

I bought a little pouch off of amazon for about £6 for a 2 pack, stick it in there whenever I get home. Means I don’t lose the key and it blocks my keyless entry

Polished the Jag and saw another from you! The tin needs to be grounded to a good earth to make it an effective Farady cage which would block the keys radio signal. Unearthed, it will act as an antenna attenuator instead. A piece of equipment known as a frequency spectrum analyser would show, though, the various cans do attenuate, (reduce) the fob radio signal. However, because your sitting inside the car, the signal strength is still within set limits, the Car Key radio receiver needs to take into account, for low key fob battery level. Hence the varied success of the experiment.

Thing is though its people with a codeable key that will code a key from bouncing the signal from your key when you lock/unlock, best way to avoid is using the key to open the door manually

I liked the video , how come you arent pressing the clutch down when youre trying to start the car when your fob is in tins or foil I have a edge and it wont start unless the clutch is pressed down , is it different for a fiesta

As a Welshman to a Welshman nice video butt

Ford focus ST Tried and tested. KENCO MILLICANO tin Protect your car and enjoy a great cup of coffee. Works a treat.

I keep my key in a metal box so the device they use can’t read the signal works a treat 😉 Well metal office draws and I have a few lol

UPDATE: Got my Fiesta Eco Boost back. The thieves reprogram the car via the OBD2 socket which is located behind a mini- glove box-like flap to the right of the steering. Squeeze the sides in and it folds right out. A clip on either side of the OBD socket and push it through. Push it up into the wires, or left, or right. Up to you. Lower the glove compartment (thats where the fuses are, behind) like you did by squeezing in the OBD cover and remove fuse 19. That kills the data line in the OBD. I made a sticker on my Labeller for the drivers wing mirror "OBD port moved." You cant miss it when the mirror folds in. Bought a wheel lock too. Its reduced the odds of "drive away" theft significantly. Keys in a small biscuit tin when not in use. Hope this helps. Its about reducing odds by increasing their time at the car.

Stop lock on wheel Works for me

Well it wouldn't surprise me car thieft in Wales I guess if it's been stolen it will be over Blackwood mountain or somewhere like that

Aluminium works best. Even with a solid steel combination safe the signal still gets through. Coke can or tin foil stops the signal

Tracker and clifford 365 black jax id Recommend 👍

Some cans don't close as well as others that's why some arn't blocking the signal. Some cans start off with blocking the signal and wear out afther many open and closes. I'd say use aluminium foil and grab a new piece every week or so it tends to wear out quite fast, atleast it's inexpensive. I use a stoplock pro + OBD relocated + aluminium foil. Then again if they really want it they can get it. But this slows them down alot.

Good video thanks....but maybe also try a more realistic scenario of the tin can and foil inside your house...just to be sure? Or, better still can one of the "SCUM" help you do that test?

Time to buy some coffee 😂

All the money ford spend engineering a car and they didn't think of this problem...!?🤷🏼‍♂️🙄

Here in the US, FiSTs aren't very popular cars. Between the lack of demand for them, and the fact that most Americans can't drive a stick, mine's pretty safe. I have a fob shield thing, anyway, just in case.

Its a faraday cage. But I think you need to earth it to make it work properly.

Obd relocate. obd disabled reactivated by dongle fob. Faraday bag for key. Disklok, revo sps switch with anti theft mode and quick release steering wheel

Is yours a ST3 with so called "keyless" entry? I have a ST2 without so wonder if I need to do this?

Simple, replace it with an ignition barrel that physically uses a key, Disklok. 👍😉

buy your self a cable for your fiesta that supports forscan then you can disable your tpms light cable cost like 15 quid you can use it for diag and changing stuff to your fiesta

Get a pandora alarm 🚨: the alarm comes with driver tags and it won’t start even if you have the original key ! The pandora immo is around £400 and the immo and alarm is only £100 at £500 👍

Hahaha i was thinking wtf is bistro lol its bisto gravy i think mate

2 X Car Key Signal Blocker Case, Faraday Pouch for Car Keys

Why did I smile all the way through this? "Sorry about the mess in the car, the wife doesn't clean it out that often". Thanks for cheering me up. I have a 5 door ST. What are your thoughts about the overheating/possible fire issues that a few people have had? I am told my ST is OK as it was built in 2017.

How about glass jars,

Soda cans also work like magic, use a tin can opener, open the top and pop ur keys into it, i even leave the top open and my car still cant detect the key, enjoy!....

You can now buy a ‘faraday’ pouch which are big enough for a small bunch of keys to stop what they call relay theft’

To be honest though mate our cars are quite safe these days, i mean who in their right minds would want to nick a car that can potentially catch fire these days?:-)

Battery kill switch to the ignition is all that's needed so they can't start the car.

A small plastic box that fits better can be lined with your foil.

Why use a magnet to identify steel cans and then use tinfoil? You could have tried aluminium cans as well seeing as the tinfoil worked

Get urself a pandora alarm system 👍

Any car with keyless entry is vunerable to the car being unlocked. So not just ford Indiekeeko.

Good idea for home use but not if your sitting in a pub or a restaurant with your car outside, you cant put the can in your pocket can you....lol, Don't be tight and buy yourself's a pouch for a £5

Smith an Wesson best fob.....

They don't steal fiesta st with fob amplifier they break window plug a device in obd port disarm alarm then clone a blank fob n then there off

Glue lead around mint tin will defo block all signal

I know what I'm buying tomorrow then 😁😂

So that's how swingers never get their motors nicked!

What about a guard dog. Big angry one !!

I simply do not like all the 'wifi' systems we now have on cars. There is nothing better than a physical key and how difficult is it to turn a key in an ignition lock? A key that folds into itself (VW vans etc) is as conveniant as a 'fob'. When I worked as a Scania fitter they had the door release in the key (you could also run a lighting check off it) but it also had a chip in the key that was encrypted to another chip in the steering column. You might be able to turn the key in the lock but the electrical system stayed dead without that chip. Spare keys had to be synchronised by the dealer. I have a Renault Laguna II that has a 'card' that releases the doors remotely but you have to physically insert the card into a slot. This releases the steering lock and turns the electrical circuits on enabling the engine start button. Maybe we have gone too far with technology. After all if a man invented it another man can break it. By the way that 'tin foil' is actually aluminium. Lol. And another way to recycle cans has been found ... Nice Vlogs mate ....

Just get a Faraday bag people!

I have to note it's a bad idea putting may keys in one can they may interfere with each other and stop working

Faraday cage. Should be made of Mu-metal.

Ghost immobiliser

Not sure if you knew this or not but the Police give out free wallets to prevent scummy feckers relaying signals from your keys, my local constabulary in Leicestershire keep some behind the desk.

We have a Plug & Play immobiliser for the Fiesta ST keyless. Fire me a message and I'll send one over!

lead lined safe with my baseball bat next to it works for me...

A fiesta 😂 in Canada you could leave that in the hood with the keys in it and no one would steal it.

I stopped thief's by having the turbo break.

Maybe the key-Fobs need an OFF switch.

Kitchen foil works just as good n

Just go online and buy a proper Faraday bag. They're not expensive.

Very interesting experiment BUT for me I will never ever invest in a car where the key doesn't have to be in its ignition barrel and yes I know that it still can be hacked but at least the thieves still need the actual key to insert in the ignition. I just replaced my front door with one without the letter opening mechanism and never leave anything on the hallway table and also have an alarm and video recording covering all the windows and front and back door but my dog keep activating the sensors which is headache especially for my neighbours. It's shame that our society became so insecure on all levels.

What is this, my dude? i.imgur.com/sfnfI6D.png I don't have this on my ST3 (Got all the bells and whistles from factory). There's just a hole there

Keyless invented so you don’t need to put a key in the ignition but people will happily go out of there way to put they’re keys in something every night better with a key

It's "DON'T steal my car.".."YOU'RE seeing real time"

Why would any thief swipe a ford?... It would probably catch fire before they got it to the bottom of the road.... Soz