Seanie be like "Alright Kings and Queens, by day 9 of Stardew you SHOULD be reaching level 100 of skull cavern atleast TWICE a day with your Steel pickaxe! You don't need no pesky backpack!"
It's funny cuz this is basically the exact same order I used on my most recent playthrough on 50% profit, before having seen this video, when u have to squeeze every dollar this order makes a ton of sense
Pretty much followed the same order myself in my most recent playthrough, except I skipped the fiberglass rod entirely, which regret, because I massively underestimated the value of bait. Don't really see anything wrong with what he's got here?
@@eugenides04 2000g is a lot of money early on but 5000g and 25 steel is fine? You're loosing out on a ton of profit and time without a backpack in the mines, having to go put stuff in a chest every 5 floors and carting it home 12 items at a time lol. I mean maybe this makes sense for minmaxers but for the vast majority of players it's stupid. I'd say most people get the backpack first, then maybe the fishing rod if they like fishing, then copper pick, then copper axe
this seems like a good idea if you're playing it to reach particular goals. but if you're just casually playing to relax or something first backpack upgrade is a top priority for me.
@@paper2222 I wouldn't say optimizing but rather maximizing. Upgrading your rod first just to fish whole day doesn't scream optimizations hah. It may be a way to create more interesting content, surely.
@@lrose5522 oh yeah, I had first upgrade in mind. but I can see how it's not necessary for everyone- I like to start giving gifts immediately, foraging etc. if you stay in mines grinding for stuff it may not be a big deal.
i would say the first backpack upgrade is really helpful, the second one for me isnt as important. im a few days into winter 1 and only have 2 rows and havent struggled at all. once i start really going into skull cavern i will upgrade it.
I am with you on that one. These SDV videos consisting of not upgrading your backpack grinds my gears, awakens my rage hormones all the time! I'd rather be unoptimized than not having inventory spaces
@@jasonolson7966 yup, especially when you are more clued into speed running or you’ve played this game a lot you don’t worry about maximizing your days in game as much as it is compared to the real hours you spend. A lot of the hoarding nature to collect everything on the map goes out the window so things like the backpack are very unnecessary. Haboo would 100% aim for progression (pickaxe priority) I would bet he’d even put the pickaxe before the fishing rod because he’d just sleep to the mines opening with only planting the initial parsnips lol.
@@jasonolson7966 it all depends on what he is trying to do if it is a speed run he might but if it isn't then their is no way he is upgrading the pickaxe past copper.
I don't know how anyone goes through skull caverns without full backpack upgrades. Even with max slots and bare minimum tools & food I still am throwing out kinda valuable items to make room.
i think this boils down to playstyle. this list sound just super stressful to play. an early backpack just offers comfort. inventory management does enable to focus on other upgrades, but it limits how you can play. and there is just so many items around
I know Seanie's list is the only correct order to purchase upgrades in, but I'm absolutely going to be wrong and upgrade my backpack first. I cannot handle only having 12 slots and will be stressed out if I don't prioritize that as my first upgrade. 😮
@@mwmxktty - Sometimes I’ll do that first just because a chest can be placed by Willy’s Shop for fish collecting. But once the mines are open, absolutely need the backpack because I will cry over how many things I’ll have to ignore if I only have a basic backpack. XD;;
@@Pudcupno its not. I don't upgrade the trash can until I can upgrade it to iridium quality. It's just not that important. And I don't sell ANY fish until I hit lvl 10 fishing, because it's weird.
It's probably not very efficient, but I try to keep all of my tools evenly upgraded (except for the trash can). So I usually don't get the steel pick until I also have the copper axe, can, and hoe, and so on and so forth
same!!! The look of having different colored tools stresses me out so much that I just go through the list and upgrade each one to the next level together.
I definitely can relate to that I always prioritize my pickaxe and axe first. The backpack is essential as well. Then watering can. Hoe is last. I generally forget to upgrade my trash can because I have video game hoarding syndrome and try to avoid tossing items out. My husband upgraded his trash can fairly early though. To each their own I guess.
This man does not understand the importance of early game trash upgrades. You don't have to go all out but when you don't have an upgraded backpack and need to make room, getting some cash from tossing things is a nice boost
I think since seanie started playing before upgrading the trash can was even a thing he probably just thinks it ain't important. That's how I am at least
I feel like Sean's list are only for those that like the mines... I don't like the mines as much and I'm in summer 1 and not even at level 80 yet. My pickaxe is upgraded but I upgraded my axe first because I wanted more wood so I could build my coop and my barn in the summer. I also bought the backpack upgrade (cause I hate only having 10 slots of inventory), my upgraded fishing rod (I have the beach farm) and the apple and pomegranate sapling (for the community center because I want the greenhouse by winter) and I upgraded my watering can at the end of spring. While ore is useful for tool upgrades, I don't see why you need so much early game when you need a certain farming skill to unlock preserve jars and kegs anyway, which takes time. Not to mention that you need a lot of wood as well to make them.
The first thing I have upgraded is the first backpack and then the fishing rod, except I go straight to the iridium one. The reason I get the first backpack upgrade is so I can have more fish.
Eh? Really? What I do is carry a bunch of wood to my preferred fishing spots and build a couple of chests to be placed in one of the areas that it won't get trampled (check the wiki for chests/pathing). Extra wood is stashed in the chest for future chests, as well as everything else - food, bait, fish, treasures, etc. Just carry off the largest stacks or best loot for quick selling/turning in as needed. No need to waste money on a backpack at the start; just save your money to get the iridium rod a little faster.
i feel like the axe is important to upgrade early on because you need to get into the secret woods to get certain things to complete the community center, like the morel mushroom (spring) and fiddlehead fern (summer). the stumps in the secret woods are also a great way to level up foraging skill super quick. and how you gonna build so many chests with just a regular axe if you don't have the backpack
Morels can be acquired from Mushroom Cave or Traveling Cart, Fiddleheads can be obtained in Skull Caverns. (You can also use a chair to exploit into the Secret Woods early, but not factoring that in.) Foraging isn't *that* important to rush that aggressively, and going deep on pickaxes lets you get all the other tool upgrades faster, to the point where (while he does place them lower on the list) you still get to the axe upgrades pretty early on. As for the chests with low inventory capacity, only takes one slot to hold the wood. Worst case scenario, you toss a couple items on the ground while you chop trees, then pick them back up to store in the chest when you're done.
Yeah pickaxe is by far the best thing to focus on over everything else. Axe is only important when it's keg time, and upgrading your watering can once can be handy before you just mass produce sprinklers. Oh and backpack you can honestly ignore if you just put a chest next to the mines imo, although 1 upgrade of backpack is also more than enough.
First upgrade is an early purchase for quality of life for me, 2k is pretty cheap once you've harvested your first summer crops. Second upgrade can be left for a while esp with chests in the mines and near fishing spots
As a person who just got the second backpack upgrade at the beginning of year 2, I can confirm - you don't really need that much space. It's nice to have more rows, of course, but 2 is ok
There's nothing more cursed than going into the mines without a backpack upgrade! At that point you might as well upgrade your trashcan for all the loot you'll be throwing away.
on my most recent playthrough I didn't upgrade my fishing rod until after completing the community center and when I was at level 8 fishing. do I have any regrets? of course not.
Fishing rod upgrade is a complete waste. Using bait only speeds up fishing, but the real limiting factor is energy, not time. Though it's good to have an iri rod (with trap bobbers) for the ~10 tough fishes. But that can usually wait until fall or winter of year 1. Even later, if you're not into fast perfection.
why is everyone booing him he's right ‼️‼️‼️ OBJECTIVELY this is the most efficient way to play and tbh as my attention span is super short efficient play is my preferred way
seanie really said go to the bottom of the mines with one row of inventory space and no cash back for the dozens of items you'll inevitably toss in the trash can
Just make a chest at the elevator and drop off your loot every 5 floors. You won't be leaving behind enough that'll actually sell for enough/help your progression enough to justify setting yourself back for the backpack.
I'll upgrade whatever I can that is relevant. But pickaxe is always priority. Also I usually get the backpack sometime after the egg festival. it's worth it so I can get lots of strawberrys :)
The iridium pickaxe is useless, all pro players should be using bombs in skull cavern. Back pack upgrade first as it is just money and can be got so easily compared to getting copper bars, larger back pack saves time as less trips to chests.
Ngl I feel like upgrading to copper axe is super important to get iron axe before/by summer. I always go ace first then go farm copper in the days that it's upgrading and do pickaxe right after. The time down waiting for the pickaxe to finish upgrading is great for decorating and tending to tidying the farm and development of it and relationships
Upgrading pickaxe first and fishing while it's being worked on helps you with money for more crops or upgrades (even buying ore, if desperate) and having the upgraded pick helps you get the ore to upgrade everything else quicker. Main thing, though, is that there's just not really any pressing need to collect mass quantities of wood or remove logs/stumps in the first half of the first season.
"Get to skull cavern by day 5 or you're a bad player" GOT IT! In all seriousness, this last playthrough I'm doing so much better than ever and I'm just exploring skull caverns on winter and I don't really have the capabilities to sprinkle the whole farm. I don't study the game, I just play it.
I actually mostly agree with Seanies opin- I mean facts, but that said, the axe does deserve a bit more credit because it can be really time consuming to chop enough trees for wood for chests and such without upgrades (assuming you aren’t cheating and using animation canceling /lh)
Why would you ever use axe over sword when fighting? It costs stamina and sword does not. And it is so easy to get a better weapon by just spending time in the mines.
It kind of depends on what type of Playthru I’m going for Because currently I’m playing as a hobbit on my newest file and so I’m not doing any mining and only the minimum fishing but on a regular playthru I go: 1st Backpack Copper watering can Copper pickaxe 2nd backpack Axe Deluxe Fishing pole Repeat above tools for iron Hoe to copper then iron Watering can to gold Everything else to gold in no particular order Everything essential is usually upgraded and all tools are at Gold by the time winter rolls around Trash cans are done in the winter and at the same time I hit skull caverns for iridium and then work on upgrading my tools to iridium throughout winter year 1 and spring year 2
for me the axe upgrade is important to chop down trees faster. but I usually do backpack > copper pickaxe > copper watering can first, and then the axe.
Build a chest outside the mine to dump stuff in every 5 levels? 💁I even have lots of furnaces there and I like to decorate it with some paths and lights because why not?🤷
Steel pick is 2.5x as expensive as backpack, but backpack+steel pick is 1.4x as expensive as just steel pick and does the same amount for your mining/tool progression. Cheaper/faster to get the pick first, then backpack.
Okay but like. This is almost exactly the order I go upgrading. Maybe 1 or 2 things switched around but I hate watering and rushing the mines means more resources for sprinklers. Not to mention you can just leave a chest at the top of the mines and drop things in it every 5 floors. I agree with this.
When I first played stardew, I didn't know you could upgrade tools... I made it to floor 60 in the mines with the starter pickaxe before my friend told me 😂
Any upgrade before Spring 13 is a bad investment, because it keeps you from getting more strawberry seeds. I have no clue why anyone would ever say that a fishing rod upgrade pays for itself. Yes, bait reduces the probability for trash items, but the only way to know that is because the wiki says so. It's completely insignificant. On the flip side, now you earn 5g less from every catch when you factor in bait, which is about 10% with many low-level fish. And while it's true that fish bite more quickly, the limiting factor with fishing will always be energy, not the time of day. Even with the pickaxe, it takes a long time before you get your value back, because you also lose 2 mining days in the process. And by the time you can realistically go for the copper pickaxe, you're already at level 80+ where the difference isn't as big. Sure, if you're playing casually, everything works, but if you want to go hardcore powergaming, your first upgrade will be the copper pick before the Flower Dance (losing only a single day of mining) and then the steel pick on Spring 28, because you will spend Summer 1 planting and won't need a pick (that is if you work around random rocks that spawn when seasons change). The axe is best for mid summer and of course right back-to-back to steel. Backpack time is usually winter when you hit your first million and you can afford luxury/QoL items. As for fishing rods, I'd go directly from bamboo to iri. Before fall ends is a decent idea so you can start your legendary fish collection right then and there. Realistically, there's only the legendary and about 5 more fish that are really annoying without a trap bobber. The eel is very doable without one, but if you aren't already at a high fishing level, you might use one anyways. With it being needed for the CC, an iri rod in fall is smart. Again, all of that is mostly about reaching perfection within 2 years (and a bit), if that's not your goal you can afford to waste income on upgrades.
I think Seanie is right, personally I like an upgraded fishing rod for money and for bait, bait makes fish come faster so you get more fish which means more money. When you have all that money you can afford the pickaxe upgrades which are good because you want to get through the caves fast and with good energy. You can sacrifice ur slimes, fiber and stone for the geodes and artifacts you find the first few days in the mines to save storage, then when you need materials just go on a resource run and stock up on stone using your upgraded pickaxe on the big rocks, and you get more ore mining faster
having a golden pickaxe before the copper axe is insane. steel axe is basically a necessaty in summer at year one, as if you don't wonna wait the whole year to harvest fern for the community centre
This list seems to rely on making like instantaneous mine/skull cavern progress, and making big money early on. Not to mention fixing bus early on. On a typical playthrough, I would probably get several of the copper upgrades early on, except for the watering can until sprinklers, so as to not go days without watering crops. Sean may not value axe as much as pickaxe, but upgrading axe while progressing to the point where you can get iron/gold, is fairly easy.
Maybe I'm playing wrong but I always felt like trying to use sprinklers severely limited how many crops I could have. Also are normal sprinklers worth it? I could never justify them over waiting to get quality ones
Yeah definitely wait for quality sprinkers. Normal sprinklers are a waste of ore. And if you have the beach farm, sprinklers are a total waste early game cause you can't use them till you upgrade your axe to clear away the hard wood from the dirt plot and you need a steel axe for that.
This reminds me of how some RU-vidrs beat the Ender Dragon on episode ZERO of their series. Like, that’s supposed to be the final boss, and it’s just treated like a trivial thing
Seanie has made it abundantly clear (at least from what I've seen from him) that he values mining as the major way to get through the game. This list made sense to me from that perspective. I personally try to upgrade my tools evenly because I'm not in a super big rush to do much.
I think this list is pretty solid! Definitely agreed that the axe doesn't really do much for you until it gets you into the Secret Woods, which just isn't as important as getting to iron pick/gold mining. Definitely think the backpack is in a solid spot as well. That's 2k that could be going to more crop seeds or other tool upgrades. It's nice, and important eventually, but chests are good enough for a good while. I'd probably put trash cans over the post-copper watering cans, though. They're not amazing, but they can at least do *something* for you occasionally, which can't really be said of the iron+ watering cans once sprinklers enter the scene.
for a fast phase player it is more important to get better pickaxe quick but for any casual player backpack upgrade seems more relevant according to me. The pickaxe upgrade can boost you very largely in early mining and u can have a chest at floor 0 to store your items every 5 floors. But most casual players done reach the bottom till the start of summer so I get how they would like more inventory space
I actually agree with the backpack after steel pickaxe. Good inventory management and the fact you can just depot every 5 floors is better than going minus 2k to keep slime, bat wings and some sap…
I agree with Seanie with the watering can, upgrading your hoe and watering can past copper is a complete waste, by that time, you would most likely already have a sprinkler
I'm sometimes irked by his choices in tier lists, but this was SO FAR out of left field that it was just hilarious, and I felt better that his entire chat rioted along with my internal self lol. So funny, but also interesting to see his method of playing the game. I may actually try it next time I start a new save to see how it actually pans out.
Came here after the 4 corners farm vid where this video was bought up, and my god I didn't expect the take to be this stone-cold lol. Each to their own I guess, but the chat reactions were pretty funny lol.
1. Fishing rod - great 1st choice, boosts income as most of the money in the first days come from fishing, and being able to use bait massively increases that. 2. Backpack, as you'll probably get 2k for it from fishing easily BEFORE the mines open, and they'll also allow you to carry more types of fish + stuff you get from treasure chests while fishing. 3. Copper axe, gotten before even pickaxe upgrades because stumps give good foraging xp. With a starting chair from your house you can use it to get into the secret woods very early for lots of foraging xp, and sets you up to stockpiling more hardwood from way earlier in the game. This also means you'll more easily reach foraging 4 for salmonberry season, so more energy from those for spelunking/farming. 4. Pickaxe upgrades all the way to gold(or as far as you get materials for), except when you know it's going to rain the next day, in which case upgrade watering can to copper, OR if fishing level is almost 10 with boosts, you could get iridium fishing rod + trap bobbers to catch legend in first spring(optional but I just like doing this even though you don't have to) 5. Backpack upgrade 2(pretty much a luxury but is very good to have after you've got mines cleared out because by now you'll probably start going to skull cavern and more inventory is pretty important in there 6. Rest of possible axe upgrades because farming wood faster is needed for all your kegs & buildings & stuff... 7. Rest of the other upgrades, you don't NEED need them, but it's nice to be fully decked out.
This is a good list if you don't do any exploits like clay farming, chair jump or animation canceling. the only problem is pickaxe upgrades become completely useless after the copper/iron pick because of explosive ammo.
Copper ax makes it easier to get wood and hardwood for bundles and a ton of crafting. While it's not a priority upgrade, I definitely get the axe upgraded quickly because I need a lot of chests
I agree with most of the list but I would put the iridium fishing rod over the copper axe. Being able to put lures on days that your pickaxe is being upgraded is so useful. No life getting friendship with linus to get wild bait on top of something like a trapped bobber or dressed spinner and at lvl 10 fishing you can make more gold than a day of early mining. You get two iridium bass per catch worth 300 gold each, and twice as many chubs for days you do go in the mine. Its also possible to no life the pickaxe straight to gold just buying ores and upgrading pickaxe consistently fishing 9-12 days straight if you get lucky enough to fish up 25 iridium ore Linus is easy to make friends with as he likes forgeables (loves dish of the sea a reward for fishing bundles & craftable at fishing level 3) and weather you are mining or fishing at the mountain lake (the easiest and most profitable spring location) you will pass by him enough to get 4 hearts. If he is the only NPC you talk to he’s also the only one that will give you quests making friendship even easier.
