Stopping the crisis: Oregon teachers, parents consider solutions to stop classroom outbursts 

Get the politics out of the schools. Right now the LGBT agenda is forcing its way into the public schools, and like any other interest group trying to get its way.

I wouldn't call them that, but perhaps my heart isn't as good as yours....

@@jlex1049 no one's is

@Twin MommyMommy, and Christians, too!!!!

Why can't some of these people accept that we need to prepare our children for the real world. We know phones plus young children is a bad combo in school. If they need a phone, give them a flip phone ("dumb phone") and tell them it is a phone to call us or text us when they have to and needs to be off otherwise. Accountability, care, support, discipline, grit, diligence. These are what the kids need to learn. That means support from teachers, administrators, and parents. Let the Teachers teach. Let the teacher run the classroom. Notify the parents when the kid misbehaves and have the Principal notify the parents that if the students don't shape up their discipline, their kid is out.

Also, these behavioral issues are a direct result of the neurological damage we are causing our children with the large amount of toxic vaccines we now give them. Research it.

I still remember when I got beatings and I leaned over time not to do it again in school.

My Dad reiterated to us, all five of us, at the beginning of every school: always respect adults and figures of authority, remember you are a student and you are not in charge you are there to learn, and if you get punished for an infraction at school, the consequences at home will be much greater. My Dad didn't play, he was a military man. You minded your parents and you minded your manners in public. The lack of discipline is the NUMBER ONE problem. There are no consequences for these heathens' actions so they continue...

@@ISa-jy8ol what vaccines and when did they start using them?

Exactly!

Taze them, then remove them.

They're AUTISTIC

@@wendygold8527 Not all of them.

@@wendygold8527 you do not know that.

Kindergartens were never intended to be “schools," but places for managed play. But when you bring together kids whose home situations are so different. and where sentimentality governs those who run the school, one ignores the basic problem. A number of kids put together in the same room and assigned tasks., who may differ greatly in temperament and skills.

EXACTLY

As a retired Child & Youth Worker in Toronto, Ontario, I am fully behind consequences and boundaries. You need to clearly state the behaviour, tell the kid that if he continues to trash the classroom (e.g.,), he will have to clean it up. Then when you think he's made a big enough mess, say "Ok, you clearly were angry, but it's time now to clean up your mess so we can talk about it. I'll help ..." I had a child who would pick up chairs or solid wooden blocks and heave them into the crowd of JK/K kids sitting on the carpet. He would go and up-end all the puzzles, throw the bins of lego, and I would consistently remind him that he'd have to clean it up. If he gave me attitude ("you can't make me") I'd say, well actually I can, and I'd take his hand and put it into the pile of lego, and "help" him put it in the bin. It took awhile but he eventually got it and we had a relatively uneventful rest of the year.

Absolutely! Well said.

@@margjohnson571We can’t do it in my school because they consider it putting hands on a student. Sigh

Also, how do I fill my cup every single day so that I can "pour" in to 32 kids times 5 classes a day. That is mission impossible. That means I can never be tired or sick or have my own grumpy day. I am not a robot. I am human too.

Bingo

Thank you.

With a rock, stone, or baseball bat?

I'm not sure parents are allowed to anymore

These days we entrust our children and their education to the state We outsource food cultivation and preparation to corporations Our elders are rotting-away in nursing-homes Everyone moves away from friends and family to chase careers We were tricked into thinking this is all progress

All true... why I home schooled 10 children!

Schools can be more like factories than communities.

Well said. Thank you! All the best to you in your teaching.

Amen Robert Spencer!!! 100% agreed!!!! Yaaaaaaaaasssssssssss!!!!!!

It's not a skin color thing skin color should have nothing to do with a students behavior ok we people who are way to young to be raising children having babies because they are not fully done mentally developing themselves. People being to busy to be involved with what is going with their kids and opting out looking at school as if it were a babysitting service looking for these teachers and other school district employees to raise their kids until their kids do something wrong then it's how dare you judge my child. There is no support administration wise nor is there any support from the parents. These parents in this discussion are just a select few who care even school bus drivers are feeling these same problems only we don't have the support of management schools teachers. Skin color has no play in teaching if child wants learn they are going to learn if they are not taught to respect others at home all people. If the teacher makes the class execiting in the learn process they will learn and want to learn.

unfortunately when it comes to medicine, or teaching, biases exist. kids seeing someone who looks like them is a positive experience and they can come from a different viewpoint of understanding and not just kicking kids out as the sister up there explained.

@@marohan I work in the education industry and kids in today's society are not taught the core values of respect at and how to behave in public or in school or how to treat your elders with respect. Okay we are there for them but we are not their doormats nor are we there for them to traumatize at their will. Their parent excuses are just that excuses it is their responsibility to get their child the physiological help they need teachers are their to teach reading writing math history they are not doctors. School Boards needs to open theirs eyes because the country is in real trouble here because these are the people who are suppose to be taking care us when we are to old take care of ourselves. School bus drivers are facing the problems with these students only imagine this behavior going on while being behind the wheel of a 40 ft 10,000 ton vehicle. Color doesn't matter they behave this way wether we are black white Asian Hispanic they don't care.

Black teachers say the same things about what is happening. Some of them even complain they are are called white. When you let kids run the class, it doesn't matter the race of the teacher.

@@yaimavol not the sista up there. She was talking about more empathy with these kids and reaching them where they are. To many teachers are quick 2 throw these kids out n they know that.

agreed

@Punkin'Pie Unfortunately the parents who most need those classes are the least likely to show up. Either because they flat don’t care (contrary to what the teachers said not all parents actually do love their kids, or they would if they weren’t too stoned to remember they even had kids) or they are too busy working. Tying parenting classes to welfare payments would be the only way to hope for any participation by the target parents.

Helen Scott we are really doing these kids a disservice. They want to protect their ”feelings” but it’s really turning them into entitled brats and I worry for them as adults. They won’t know how to function in society.

@@MichelleNovalee I agree. Reality will be the necessary rude wakeup call for these soon-to-be-adults who think the world should revolve around them 24/7 no matter what. But since schools and some parents out there would rather shelter children from reality rather than properly prepare them to face it head-on, disaster looms on the horizon--whether for society, or the children of today, or both!

There really is no hope. The public schools need to be disestablished. Look what happened to the Episcopal Church, originally the state established Church of England, once it was disestablished after the revolution nationally, and then eventually by the individual mostly southern states: virtually all of their members became Methodists! That’s how the Episcopal Church went from being the majority religion of the entire country to roughly 1% of the population today, with perhaps 10% of that 1% actually attending services, or roughly 350,000 people in the pews out of a population of 330,000,000 in the entire country, a former British colony where it was punishable by death to skip holy communion just three times in the Crown Colony of Virginia, believe it or not! The same thing needs to be done to the public schools and of course the end result would be much the same. With real choice virtually no one would bother with the public schools any longer. I taught for 7 years and go to the point where I would laugh at people who told me they were teachers.

Teacher here…..shame has a place. If a child does something that hurts someone else s/he should feel ashamed. Shame lets us know we have done something wrong.

@@TheWhiskeyRomance Couldn't agree more. Parents would like teachers to speak to their kids as if they were employees. Employees can be fired. Kids can't and kids know it. That's a big difference parents overlook.

asians r the hardest working.. they really are.. i work w some and they work circles around the americans every single day

​@@lyndza1989 you also tend to see it a lot from immigrant families whose kids are 1st generation.

@@donpietruk1517 yes 100%...this makes all the difference

All you need to know about people can be summed up thusly: “people are shit”.

This is one hundred percent true.

The public schools are highly political. People forget that they are government owned and operated. The weird thing is that school board members often don’t know that they are officials with legal responsibilities. like the members of he local city council, with with different duties.

Education is viewed as a "white thing" by AA's.

@@texasrox2010 Did you just say India is homogeneous? Are you an idiot? Dude India is known as a subcontinent for a reason. Every single state is like a different country with different language, culture, food, attire....your level of ignorance is unbelievable

You are right....I'm an assistant professor in India. There is always a power dynamics in every institution. If you take away all the authority from teachers along with no consequences for students, that's the ideal breeding ground for chaos and anarchy. It's basic animal instinct to tussle for power supremacy and teenagers are too hormonal to control that basic aggression. The administration is using teachers as cannon fodder. Don't they have Unions?

@Kyle Everage There are several tribes in India. Google the state called Kerala. There is a large number of students who come from fishing villages and slums where educational expectations are very different. There is even a Black tribe in India. Google Northeast India and see what their racial identity is. None of them will ever lift a finger against a teacher. You guys are severely uninformed about India. Our former president APJ Abdul Kalam who even has a day dedicated as Science day in some Euporean country to remember his visit; his father was an illiterate man. Family background or race has nothing to do with classroom behavior. It only depends on how much teachers are respected in the culture. The students treat teachers like trash because they know they can unload their frustration on them and go scot free. It doesn't happen in India because we have culture which says 'Mom, Dad, Teacher, God'. Teachers are next to God and kids internalize this from a young age

I don't know but I saw some kindergarten classrooms as an IT fixer. Some of them seemed overly strict on terms of trying to teach accelerated learning to 5 year olds. There was math .. I don't recall math in kindergarten. Maybe learning numbers .. probably not even that. I recall rudimentary writing in 1st grade. Kindergarten was crayons, gluing paper, singing, etc. The teacher played piano and sang simple songs. There was a 20 min nap time but I couldn't sleep.. just quiet time.

20 years ago that idea would have been ludicrous. Today they're trying to push languages.

@Phillip James Clearman Sure, an option, but it seems like we've got a lot of structural problems that need fixed first before we start offering brass and chrome, you follow?

Phillip James Clearman Language learning via immersion should be required at these ages. They are highly moldeable at this age and acquire language must more easily than older individuals.

@@gg_rider Yeah, kindergarten is suppose to be fun and mainly learning social skills as well as becoming acclimated to the daily routine of being on a schedule.

leave work? really?

Yes, really. If you can't take care of a kid properly. Don't have them! ​@@christigoth

@@thebirdclanwow that’s a really perfect idea! 😮

Same thing public school teachers wanted 50 years ago. See the movie 'Lean on Me'.

Teachers are told to have high expectations, and the students will rise to the occasion. REALLY??

bc you are poor and have no other options. poor people are still human and they still matter. poor children still matter even if their parents are alcoholic homeless people. a student i tutored in highschool was literally homeless and his parents were a drunk and guess what he sucked ass at school, what a shock. these people still matter. he fucking mattered, and just bc you suck doesnt mean you dont have a right to education. we need to be fighting to help these people and lift them up, we need more fucking teachers so the poor ass kids can get attention without the middle class kids losing anything. shitty kids and good kids are still just kids and they are on the same team, dont fight against the shitty kids, fight for them, they are not your enemies

@@gnova7 Everything you say is true but we should not sacrifice the education or future of well behaved, industrious students in a futile attempt to help poorly behaved students. Every kid deserves a chance but one kid is ruining the class for everyone else then it does not matter why to the rest of the class. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Absolutely! Put the disruptive offenders on the street.

Its how democrats get stuff done.

Not missing it. Churches parks and youth programs are fine. My homeschooler was one of the violent ones. He was diagnosed autistic, and you'd be surprised how far a weighted blanky hug goes. No more fits now. He might have even learned it in school, but yes, he was diagnosed autistic but "too smart" for ese.

Some day there may be documentaries about homeschoolers with mental health issues, poverty and a Fortnite habit and still manage to act like decent people. There's a lot more going on with homeschoolers than just privilege.

@@novascotia6407 I'd like to see that but it won't be promoted because it would go against the popular narrative.

Shut down public schools ,do what they do on airplanes shut it down,throw them off,put them to work cleaning public spaces for a few months, mandatory military training instead of sports .privileged minors are the big problem,rude, disrepectful punks sometimes violent.manners are cheap,and they go along way. Home school your kids. Teach Respect, truth and how to treat others.makem scared striagh

@@dougandrews3698 that's really not what homeschooling or good parenting is.

Barbara Creel I thought it was just me. Lol. I felt ignorant listening to them. They use a lot of what seems to me like jargons. Btw, what did that lady mean by "ruler"? Is it some kind of program or activity?

adoptedinlove I’ll listen to that again. I don’t remember the term “ruler”. Maybe it was an abbreviated term. Like ESL, or TESL, or IEP. Stupid programs. The whole department should be dismantled; and MAYBE re built from the ground up- all the money is going to all of these extra programs where they just hire more consultants and make up names for their specialty areas and create new departments within curriculums or behavior… Like they were talking about EQ as emotional intelligence something like that? Ridiculous. What I hate the most is the whole “we will just have to keep trying each year if something doesn’t work“ which just means to scrap the whole program that they convinced the state or federal government even to spend hundreds of millions on, paying the specialists and consultants and experts to come and teach the teachers things that they already know how to do that they learned at university level at the very beginning and also picked up within teaching within their own careers… There are tons of books on curriculums and instruction and behavior techniques one of the best ones I learned by the way was CHAMPS. out of every class I’ve ever taken for education whether it was voluntary or I paid for it which you didn’t used to have to do, or I took it to school or is forced to take it at my assigned school… It was the best program actually was the only worthwhile program that explained explicitly and had pedagogy and psychology actual step-by-step things to do and ways to create it for yourself so that you understood it as a teacher and examples of what worked and how you knew it worked I wish that every beginning teacher took that champs course… It’s basically a classroom management behavior, Time management strategy communication course, complete with exercises and examples of how to hit your targets how to manage your time and how to know when you’re succeeding and how to give positive feedback and how to discipline properly without losing a class or a student or getting reamed by a supervisor or bullied. It took me years to really understand how to apply the standards that we have and apply them to the curriculum, and know when I was supposed to do it… They just give you a new book every year and then you were supposed to sit with your department and figure out when you want to hit the standards every quarter and nobody was explicit enough it almost seems like nobody knew what the hell they were talking about and when I tried to ask pacific questions I never got detailed answers even my own supervisor was like “but I’m not gonna do your job for you“ and will just help me to watch somebody else’s classroom during my prep time… She was awful all stick and no carrot basically she was abusive and more than a bully I had to register many complaints anyways...The direct administration just Ben’s over for the higher ups at the district level because they want money and kickbacks because they know that if there school doesn’t look like it’s progressing that they will lose funding that they will be treated poorly by their own superintendents and they pass that fear and threat down to us… We start new programs all the time they throw the baby out with the bathwater we can’t afford any other materials because our districts are spending all of the money on these programs all of the money on hiring these new consultants all of the money on paying the superintendents and principles and who God knows what else these fake programs for some of them I’m convinced don’t even exist. They lie to us tell us were getting raises tell us even where the moneyis coming from whether it’s taxes or a program or a settlement or money from a marijuana TaxACT… Like a Nevada… It’s been going on for two years and we haven’t seen a dime… Well it’s not weird anymore I refuse to work as a teacher for the district but I’m glad that I got vested and I have person I’m going to see if I can transfer that stuff over to another state government agency which is nice working for the man… But women in education and that senior roles within administration with the school they will fuck you they will not let you transfer they will make sure that you can’t by writing horrible shit in your files, Pylon until you lose the will to fight and even live sometimes, even if you ask and ask and ask for a new supervisor like you’re allowed to, you can be denied apparently you can ask the transfer but I was even told that no one would take me and that she basically said I had to stay there or resign. She spent every other day working as hard as she could in her office, I mean I saw sometimes just walking down the hall and I knew… Or her strategy is where she would have a secretary interrupt my first class the beginning of the day telling me that she needed to see me in her office at the end so that I like mentally and physically couldn’t even teach I was so anxious and I had PTSD by the end where I would get sick the next day I would throw up I couldn’t eat I started drinking it was awful and I documented everything… But I was so passive and weak and young at the beginning that I thought that I could make her happy by not going to my union sometimes and she was just the dumbest mouth breather that has ever walked the earth… And she obviously felt threatened by everybody in our department… I have no clue why she decided she would supervise an English department… She routinely bullied and picked on people and she enjoyed it very obviously. She would threaten individual teachers with retaliation on their careers… And they wouldn’t ever come together and go after her because everybody just was so scared and kept other stories to themselves even if they would share everybody neglected to come together and file a larger complaint I mean she would say things like “if you say something to the district about having a larger class-size I’ll know it was you“ to teachers that were just asking for support. I know that I would be a much better teacher now I’ve grown up and I’ve had a kid and I’ve learned a lot about being an adult and being responsible more than ever, but I will never put myself in a capacity to be taken advantage like that ever again or treated like a child

Barbara Creel Your response was lengthy but I read it all. I must say.. after watching all these videos and interviews about what goes on in schools I'm not as shocked anymore. But I am deeply bothered and am sympathetic with the teachers and the students. It seems like both groups are hedged in from all sides. Teachers don't have a voice, whether it be in the administrative council or in the classroom.. and a lot of the students of today are bombarded with negative influences everywhere they go. And the pressures of society that make it worse. After reading your experience I have a clearer picture of what goes on behind the scenes. A lot of what you mentioned were not tackled at all in this video.. I suppose partially because of the people in the room. The root causes are rarely addressed. And everytime I hear statements like "we need more funding" or "students need teachers who look like them" I just shake my head. The problems run much much deeper. I agree that the solution must be multi-tier. If real change is to be realized, everyone in the community needs to get onboard. Because while one factor is dealt with, other hidden factors are subtly eating away at the institution. It's sad. I taught high school abroad in Thailand and the Philippines and we never had to deal with such problems. But I worked at a private sector so I don't know how things went on at public schools. I'm sorry to hear about all these issues you had to deal with. The fact that the adminstration at your school just cared about funding and public reputation to the complete neglect of their workers, let alone the students, is sad. That's one of the "hidden factors" that isn't addressed. And I think as long as the people involved are not willing to put everything on the table, nothing will change and the situation will just continue deteriorating.

The black woman was obtuse as hell and is part of the problem - she didn't like the conversation...she never do.

Barbara is 💯 on target.

Shaming is important. This idea that a child should never feel bad is completely wrong.

@@thecouchpotatocom i feel ashamed when im late to work. That is why i dont want to be late.

When I resigned from the Cleveland Public Schools I told my department chairman “anytime someone assaults me my number one concern at that moment is to stomp the shit out of them”. I went straight to the office, had a very pleasant chat with the ex-Army MP principal, signed my resignation, and walked out to become a GED tutor in adult education. The only exception to my policy of stomping the shit out of all assailants, students or otherwise, is to tackle them and place them in a choke-hold if they are too big to be thrashed using fisticuffs only. Anyone who thinks teachers aren’t entitled to defend themselves against student assaults is a fatuous ass bordering on the psychotically deluded.

And he is one of the only males. Interesting.

@Gary Songer ...does that make you feel better to think that? It would appear so.

@Gary Songer religion has nothing to do with it....in "your" times god was hardly involved in public education either. What are you talking about; the national anthem? Im not sure in what ways the concept of god has anything to do with general education or the behavior of young children in classrooms...none whatsoever. Thats what I meant about you telling yourself to feel better that its because of not enough religion in schools that everythings different or worse now. Two completely unrelated things. To boil it down to that easy a cause would be completely oblivious.

@Gary Songer disciplined by who, staff at the school? Thats not allowed 🤷🏻‍♀️ all religions are free to be practiced in a public school, that's the rule constitutionally and an overarching rule for all public schools. You can report that teacher or whoever did that for discrimination--christianity is as allowed, and just as allowed as other people's beliefs to be practiced during their day in their personal time. Not during class hours obviously, but yeah. It's really not cutting out god, its just that now the Christian default is not the default anymore and we don't have to make all the kids go through any content related more to one specific religion than another. Its fair and better this way: ain't no one stopping you from being as christian as you want. You just gotta share the ground now. Not something you're used to, eh?

@Gary Songer how sad. 😢

@@oliviajk12 He maybe have spelled it badly, but the message is right on the money. You didn't misunderstand that now, didja???

Boy are you right about being the only sensible one, which made him hated by the rest. After ridiculing his input they then shut him out of the conversation completely. Everyone else in the room came at the problem like single mothers (including the other man). He saw the problem and had common sense solutions.

@@jennymisteqq5399 I noticed how they reacted as well. They will NEVER solve these problems with that closed minded approach.

Self: The retired teacher is the one who feels able to speak truth. The rest have to repeat the official narrative.

Hands up on MIKE, the only guy here that had the solution but no one else listen nor care on what he was saying. DISCIPLINE!!!!! KIDS NEED DISCIPLINE. THAT WILL SOLVE A GREAT MAJORITY OF THE ISSUES PEOPLE.

@@Wblanco23 they all literally agreed on the need of accountability/consequences/discipline. Really listen and you'd realize every single one of them agreed on the same solutions but just expressed them in different ways. As well the need of compassion/counseling/TIC friendly approaches, they all agreed on that too, even MIKE lol. Basically it's ALL needed not just one over the other. And yes, we need families/parents to do 90% of the work but we also have to think practical in that regard as well. We're not all stay at home moms or dads. We all don't make the same amount of money. We all don't work just one job or a normal 9-5. Circumstances matter.

Yes Lord. Say that again. The parents need to be held accountable and jailed... clearly all these so call degreed/behavior ppl know nothing. Actions have consequences. "Some" of these kids need their azz whooped. Just saying....also perhaps the water lead,toxic metals, chemical imbalance levels need to be checked,

@Tracy Daniels Notice how they want to talk about feelings more than what is going on in he child's home.....fix mom and fix dad then address the lack of discipline at home and I guarantee the kids will start acting better when they have consequences and stable parents not on their phones all the time!!!

@audubon crosby I will say they do run the conservative women teachers off!!!

These teachers are being traumatized by 1st graders. The root problem here is the adults, and as a result they're screwing up the kids..

Also, these behavioral issues are a direct result of the neurological damage we are causing our children with the large amount of toxic vaccines we now give them. Research it.

That’s one way of dealing with it. I make certain academics continue, behaviors come but they don’t stop the show.

I also love how quickly he was shot down as soon as he said they needed consequences even by his own fellow teacher.

Just fully funding education and making sure consequences actually exist. There are students that are physically hurting themselves, teachers and other students (and destroying rooms) who are given zero consequences and are back in the room the next day. I graduated HS in '09. I would have been suspended if not expelled for this. What happened to zero tolerance for violence?

More money cannot solve this issue. Consequences have to come back.

@@thecouchpotatocom More money is certainly not sufficient, but it may be necessary.

If I was one of these teachers on this panel I would have walked out of that room and immediately given notice. They were completely unsupported, and fed a bunch of woo new agey BS that has no bearing on reality. Speaking of shaming, these administrators shamed these teachers for talking about reality

I totally agree with you. Because states feel obligated to take federal money, they are prisoners to the strings that come along with that. States and local school boards know more about what's going on than DC.

Yeah that sounds good, but who are the good students, cause the kids in my daughter school were bullies and they were consider the good students

@@tosa3797 Our actions define us.

Furrowed Brow I don’t think more law suits will solve the problem, but I agree it’s very unfair to the children that are there behaving and ready to learn. It’s also unfair for the parents that are putting the effort into raising and educating their children. Societies problems eventually come to harm everyone.

@@theemeraldcity94 Allowing disruptions in the classroom will rob America of its future productivity.

You are so right they need consequences

Kids these days are so freaking sensitive, they will throw a fit and won't shut up til they get what they want, my mom when I was growing up only needed to stare are me with some evil eyes that I knew that when I was alone with her I was getting a whopping and it only took that for me to shut up and behave. I learn that not everything will go my way and it's all thanks to my parents. Yes I got whoop and yes I did deserve it and I love my parents for teaching me this since early age. Majority of parents these days are just not capable nor are mature enough to handle kids. They are just so blind in thinking that their kids are too special.

ytg50162011 That’s what you get when men remove themselves from the whole child development thing. You end up with chaos and anger issues because no one knows how to adequately respond to male specific issues.

I got nieces nephews cousins all their kids went to school including my kid. Came home with a piece of paper telling them that if their parents looked at them the wrong way, told them to sit in the corner, raise their voice, take away their toys or anything like that was mental abuse and that they could get in trouble for it! I've seen kids who knew that there was punishment for doing something wrong. As the year went on in school they basically became emboldened because they figured you can't touch me you can't do nothing to me I WILL CALL THE POLICE. Some of them did. Or kids that were kicked out of school because if you LOOK at somebody for too long that's sexual assault. Because that's what they were taught in school. The parents should think their kids can do no wrong can homeschool their kids then. If they think the school is a babysitter for them then charge them for it. Cameras and all the rooms any damage done by the kid the parents pay for. If the kids got mental issues or something like that bring it to the parents' attention so they can take care of it the school shouldn't! But most parents today shouldn't have had kids in the first place because they refuse to be parents THEY want to be the FRIEND.

It’s the current pedagogy in education

Exactly. Legalized pornography and homosexuality . Legalized mind altering drugs like marijuana , movies and TV that glorify sex , drugs , rock music , porn , fornication , adultery and organized crime . It no wonder this country is collapsing .

A study from the 30s showed that a society collapses after three generations (100 years) of straying from absolute monogamy and absolute chastity. We don't see things until the second generation, which is what we are in now. In the third generation (starting 2027), it really takes off and the society collapses. There's a reason Chinas doing so well, and a strong family is the root of it.

Thank you. Schools can't fix this. We have children coming from a broken society where the middle class is gone and there's no way schools can cope with this. Fix our society first.

Correct. These are the adults of tomorrow. Scary

Sadly...I believe you are right. I'm retired and glad to be out as a teacher, but I fear for the future.

People don’t come to their senses unless they are shocked into it.

🎉yup!!!!!!!!

I agree with you 100% @26humor26!

She was hyperfocus from the moment the conversation began.I could see myself gettinvent a Serious verbal confrontation with that Woman. She's annoyed with everyone seems like.

So true! I had a friend in high school who never got discipline. He had wild parties at his house, wrecked multiple cars and his parents just bought him new ones. He grew up thinking the rules didn't apply to him. He got into hard drugs, overdosed and died at 32.

@@billyberger2462 That's horrible.

@Feanor I think you are probably saying basically what Billy already said. Maybe I read it wrong. Namarie. ;)

More parents should discipline and spank their kids and maybe this wouldn't happen

I will be honest, schools do not need more money. School systems throw millions away each year on assessment software that is ineffective, or they spent 2 years on one and then switch to another. Same thing with reading assessments. Change the assessment every few years and each comes with a new set of books that have to purchased. I wish they would go in and gutt central offices. There's way to many individuals making 120k+ a year, but what do we have to show for it. Schools do not need literacy and math coaches...just teach as we used to do, it works. As a former teacher, there's plenty of money...but its poorly spent. I would love to see the day where every school and school system has to put their budget/account ledger online for public view. We the tax payers have a right to see how every penny is spent...when...and on who/what. All this from someone that was once on the inside!

They have a lot of theories but the root of the problem is parenting. If they act like this in school they act like this at home.

uhh....no you teachers are also responsible for avoiding teaching actual education and worried about social studies and integration of PC culture. you guys literally spend more time w the kids than the parents because of your unending demands and oversized classrooms so then the taxpayers can fund more of your indoctrination and not educate. you literally on your watch, saw the US fall from 1in 1979 to 24th in the world, because you were too worried about feelings and not actually teaching these kids anything of value. you Reap what you Sow...

Typical knee jerk response...throw money at it. That'll *definitely* solve the issue.

Every bit of that is true.

She wasn’t boasting. She was highlighting how dire the situation was and the drastic changes they had to make to assist their students. Monetary resources are scarce. It’s not as simple as hiring more teachers for smaller classes, more counselors to support students, and more resources to support education and development for both kids and teachers. They worked with the limited resources they had and trained the few employees they had (its so hard to recruit and retain teachers in these schools) to provide their students with what they needed. They did the work. Evidently the school wasn’t getting any teaching done if you had to do 2-4 room clears a week. Nothing was getting done in the classroom anyway because of behavioral issues. They “lowered” educational expectations because they needed teachers to focus on restorative practices first and then integrate the strong educational practices back into the classroom. This is not to say that there was no learning, but that learning itself was on the back burner until the classroom could function on a daily basis.

That's why we need to homeschool. Why should everyone have to suffer because of a miserable few? The inmates are running the institution. Get the sane kids out and give them the chances they deserve.

How much lower do you have to go have you ever seen some of these kids when they graduate. I'm dealing with kids that been out of high school for weeks. They cannot write beyond fifth grade level cannot read above seventh grade level can't do simple math without calculator. My kid was in school for 2 weeks and had a senior teaching the class for 2 weeks not a teacher.

I taught at a big city high school where fully one-quarter of the kids were on probation. Then when these kids assaulted teachers the police would cuff them and walk them out of the building but then DROP THEM OFF AT HOME! So don’t expect too much. The teachers should all quit.

The cops typically drop student assailants off at home rather than booking them, but after putting on a big display of cuff them and removing them from the building. Then the kid gets may be a two week suspension, but after one week the principal is asking you if it’s okay to let the kid come back after one week. And the kid is a football player who looks like he belongs in the French Foreign Legion shooting insurgents in Djibouti or something to that effect. It’s hopeless. Everyone should just quit and let them do online academy. Really, who in their right mind even gives a shit anymore? This crap has been going on since the juvenile delinquents hysteria of the 1950s with movies like Blackboard Jungle. Even the former mayor of New York Bloomberg posted a comment to this effect on another RU-vid DISGRUNTLED TEACHER VIDEO.

parents pay for the stuff destroyed. that's enough.

That's what my principal told me just last week. "The only thing that matters are the test scores."

And to put this into perspective the average adult American has a sixth grade reading level. So why all the fuss? It is painfully obvious that most people are violently anti-intellectual, think “eggheads” are jerks, don’t read, and hold jobs that can be mastered in two weeks on the job training. Kids who cannot do their academic work simply need to be flunked out of school and enrolled in trades apprenticeships, then get night-school GED tutoring if they wish to get a high school diploma.

I think you mean COUNSELING and COUNSELORS. A councilor is a lawyer.

Did you hear the panelists all agree that there are no staff members or funding to provide the necessary Counselors?

Margaret Garbincus 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

pay them zookeepers wages

@@frankyflowers TOP KEK

Ms. Watson teaches at a school where the average teacher salary is $54k a year. She works 165 days a year. That averages out to about $325 a day. I ignored the 10 personal days she gets a year. A therapist in Portland averages about $46k a year or about $280 a day. Oh, wait....I almost forgot, a therapist has to work a standard work year of 50 weeks....or 250 days a year. That makes it about $185 a day.

ACCER You’re forgetting that they are being required to be both a teacher and therapist in one. So, it does no good to compare the “amount of work” and average wages of the two professions in the area. She is stating that if she is required to be a therapist as well that she would want the additional compensation. Secondly, teachers work much more than the days they “teach” and spend much of their earned income on their classroom. We spend ample time, planning and restructuring for our various classes, creating assignments/tests/quizzes/activities from scratch to meet our students needs, calling parents, participating in professional development, running clubs/coaching, and the list continues. Multiple hours of planning occur before any single lesson is taught. Also, the job is very rewarding but equally taxing and classroom resources often come out of the teachers own paycheck. You’re representation of the issue, while factual, is very misrepresentative of the issue. It is extremely difficult to plan appropriately, manage and instruct a class of students with some of the issues stated by these professionals, and serve as a therapist within the allotted time. Teachers deserve the breaks that they get and desperately need that time to recharge lest they risk burnout.

maybe, but in reality it's stupid teachers an d stupid schools. they have no idea what kids need. they don' t need to sit still for hours all day , not even one hour, they are growing kids, sitting all day is totally unnatural. Just for starters. These teachers all have a common type of speech that betrays their inability to speak well or project speech to a whole room of kids. they are poor speakers. big deficiency. Most of them.

This is by far the smartest comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! People don't care about anything until it breaks their wallet. I promise you if parents had to pay for their disruptive child's behavior all those kids would be little saints in school.

Yes. We do this in my district and whenever something is destroyed it goes in the kids history and if charges aren’t paid, the kid can’t graduate. (I live in Nebraska)

Joelynn Carter I don’t think it’s the schools failing to deliver. I believe it is the parents failing to deliver. Children should be taught how to respect their teachers and control themselves BEFORE they ever set foot in a school! I think that if parents were charged to pay for the damage their kids create we would see a lot less of students tearing up classrooms.

Joelynn Carter I should be able to charge the parents a tax refund fee for disrupting my kids learning time.

@@SuperMbprincess thats as if you threw rock at a window and were like "yeah, i pay taxes to be able to do this". I think its fair and should be encouraged. Though there are many other cases in which everyone has go pay for one persons negligence or stupidity.

And these are only young children unbelievable

We have to be taught how to deal with trauma . and because it is invisible ( do to the magic power of denial ) how to recognise it . if we do not face and defeat this problem we will for the rest of our lives be its bitch .

That's true because teachers are not equipped or certified to be mental health crisis therapists

Lack of the ability to parent.

Lerian V very obviously. These educators are so twisted around with buzzwords in fear because of principals like that woman.

schools in crisis.... too much PC bullshit.. and not worrying about actually education. can't balance a checkbook, change a tire, do simple math, no knowledge of history... but that have their feelings.

Wow you figure out the cause how smart. No shit that is the cause but that doesnt help the kids in any way it aint no solution. it aint illegal to have kids if you suck ass. how about you focus on things we can control instead of focusing on the parent which we cant. duh the parents are the problem but just saying that shit isnt a solution and you cant boss around a full grown adult it they arent breaking the law. it is legal to swear around your kids and feed them fatty foods and never help them with homework. this shit is legal and teachers have to pick up the pieces of these shit home and they are saying they need more help so listen to them

We need bdys an muney. Lol

Yeah, that sounds about right.

Sounds about right

ON child?

@Kimihiro -- " _I think this also correlates to the gross underrepresentation of men in schools_ ." BULLSEYE !!!🎯 Did you notice how quickly the camera cut away from the man who spoke up about consequences? Did you notice how the principal that addressed him was resisting almost exclusively points _that he never made_ ? That was *ubiquitous* throughout my years as a teacher, and I notice the same dynamic in almost every meeting (both those I attended and those I watch as an outsider) Those things, combined with the *complete* (KEYword) shutdown of physical discipline and the FLOOD of feelings-based policies and trainings that took its place are the biggest things that made education hostile to men!! Take away the men, strangle them, immobilize them and neuter them, and you will have killed the discipline--and _multiplied the chaos and destruction_ . I taught private and public K-12 for nearly 20 years, both parents were teachers (Dad was Dean of Education at a university), and my brother, uncle and two cousins all taught (which covered kindergarten through graduate school). That is to say I am not merely giving a myopic and ill-informed opinion.

100% correct

Couldn’t agree more, while I understand that certain children do have behavioral and emotional problems, that doesn’t absolve them from facing no consequences. Actually this leads to more serious mental health problems in their real would as they don’t have skills to regulate their emotions, and manage their own behavior. Also this is why when they revive consequences in the real world they freak out/ commit crimes etc. I’m not saying we need to scream at kids/ put their fear of god in them to conform to our expectations, but we need to hold them accountable l. Ex let’s say little Johnny constantly interrupts the teacher during the lesson he should receive a warning and if the behavioral continues. A privilege (ie recess should be taken away). Would he be upset in the moment probably but I don’t see how that would damage a child emotionally throughout their lives. And also side note they never say what the tools are for the teachers in regards to managing behavior.

“Poverty and Trauma are age old problems that have not affected education in the past.” ABSOLUTELY 💯🎯

Kimihiro111. My great-grandfather had a difficult childhood but he made something of himself, he created jobs and bought his first family home by the time he was in his thirties. My grandfather (dad's side of the family) had difficulty learning but he pushed himself forward to self-learn some skills, he was one out of seven children. My grandmother (granddad's wife) came from poverty and yet she self-educated herself in ethics, values, life experiences, and education-wise. Decades later they had my father, who lost his father at age 12 and his sister was killed in a hit-and-run. Their traumas didn't stop them from having successful educations. My father's side of the family has reached college education and beyond. My mom's family has gone through trauma too. But that didn't stop them from succeeding in school, she works as a doctor. The whole "We need to treat these kiddos like daisies and rainbows. We can't hurt their feelings" Okay. Maybe some of them. Others need tough love and discipline from their family. As my grandfather used to say "Discipline, morals and ethics start at home. Education and societal [peer groups, teamwork] skills start in school".

Exactly! If I had children, I would absolutely homeschool. Btw, beautiful profile picture! 🥰

@@zxyatiywariii8 thanks so much!

@freesf ftrefv and that's very true. It's sad that parents are no longer parenting

School is being treated like a business and has to “earn” positive reviews from the parents. It’s all about placating the parent instead of being just able to do their job like before.

Every time I spanked my children we discussed the decision they made that brought them here. Ultimately, it was their choice to be punished. Life is made of consequences from your choices.

@@sarcasticallyrearranged I quit teaching to become a barber. And in barbering the customer is always wrong! This is because the customer doesn’t know how to cut hair, has shitty hair, and wants the wrong haircut. So the business model of “customer service” doesn’t really work anywhere so long as the customer is an ignoramus. Teaching is not retail anything. The schools have been destroyed by social promotion, non-enforcement of disciplinary standards, political cowardice in dealing with parents, and the attitude that teachers are idealistic chumps who can be short-changed. What kids really need sometimes is a good beating. It’s no different than training work dogs. The reductio-ad-absurdum of current public schooling is that the kids are allowed to assualt the teachers and the teachers aren’t even allowed to bitch-slap them to deflect a physical assault. Public education needs to be shut down and contracted out to private and church school operators plus subsidized online academy, including moderated online academy with child-care workers other than academics.

You obviously don’t work at a school. It’s not the schools fault kids suck, it’s the parents, like you. I’m sorry that happened to your kid but it’s the parents of the other kids and the state laws fault.

Poverty and homelessness are trauma inducing. But until we can fix all of society’s problems, people need to be able to do their jobs and feel like their well behaved children are safe and learning. These administrators really showed that they don’t care and aren’t listening to their teachers

The right thinks it’s lack of discipline. The left thinks it’s the rise of income inequality, poverty, and homelessness. What if it’s a combination of these factors? There is sadly no easily solution. I do think kids are more susceptible to “trauma” than we were back in my day in the 80s when things weren’t so divisive, zero social media, and our daytime entertainment involved going roller skating, riding our bikes, and not sitting in front of a screen bejng told that all whyte people are evil supremacists out to get them

You remind me of an Orwell quote. "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." Laurie

Yup

How does this work with a male child whose natural aggressiveness has never been curbed? OR. alternatively, has been abused physically and emotionally? If there are too many of them, the school is overmatched.

​@@JRobbyShsend them home so that the parents can be motivated to correct the behavior since they have to deal with them.

Joe Rasiah hi joe...I grew up thirty years after the 1960s but somehow we had the same upbringing. I hope I can find peers who will raise their kids right! Was it Gen x that dropped the ball I wonder? What happened since the late 1990s? It seems baby boomers were ok with their kids being disciplined but not the generation after?

@@mermaidsexist4339 Without saying there bracket . Sounds like prison life , beyond out of control ! Blood testing , every body stressed out .

@@mermaidsexist4339 agree. I went to school in the united kingdom in the 1980's and the system was notoriously strict. Now it isn't. Now it's more like the American system: Overly empathetic. Now, not all communities need more discipline, but not all need more and more empathy.

The only respect is fear.

Olivia Keister If you read the person’s above statement you’ll see this is recent for American schools as well. Depending on the state children could/can still get paddled, I’m not saying that’s good or bad, but it’s definitely not any hippie dippie empathetic approach either. It varies from state to state, but even in the 90’s to even early 2000’s (when I subbed) kids acting out in this way was pretty uncommon.

I've been a substitute teacher for the past year. After witnessing what goes on in public school classrooms, I would tell any parent, at least in the county where I live, you need to homeschool your children. You are being negligent in your parental responsibilities if you send your kids to public school. It only takes 2 or 3 really bad apples in a classroom to bring down the whole class. Many teachers wind up spending 50 to 80% of their time disciplining students instead of teaching them.

Sitting in stiff seat all day in a cold and constricted institution of a school is waste of one's childhood. Kids need fresh air and room to move around. Online classes and communicating through Skype with teachers might be a better alternative for learning. Or RU-vid live.

can't even take a piss when you need in a public school lol. they're worse than prison

Homeschooling is the best investment you can ever make in your children's future happiness and success. Bless all the parents who home school! ♥️

my generation did not have a problem, this is different, no fathers worth a damn, single child family makes for a poorly socialized kid. Transgender behaviors being touted as normal. These kids are the beginnings of the downfall. This is going exponential. Add in a whole group of various third world 2nd generation migrants who have seen horrific crimes against humanity.

Yup.

Right, I started first grade in 1960. If we acted up at school we got our asses busted and then got it again when we got home. My dad was big on teaching us kids to respect adults.

You are delusional to think that the US education al system was ever good in the first place.

My parents were Not my effing friends and I knew that since infanthood. They weren't perfect, but I respect the h_ _ _ out of them for that. We need to bring back old school values and methods!

@@kimberlyhicks3644 lol..old school values? Give me a break. What year are you referring to? Who was allowed in school at that time? And the last time i checked the US school system has never been good for anyone.

@@daviddixon6408 respect adults? Yeah right. It clearly wasn't towards all races during the time of desegregation.

Facts

@@amazonqueen5694 Yes, some daddies should be castrated but sometimes it is too late, an apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

@@victormalyar9200 right cause it's always the fathers fault 🙄 this is the culmination of fathers not being in the home. Mothers and the state get money from the fathers being out of the home.

Teachers should not have to discipline your kids.

Compassion fatigue? My Lord schools must be awful. It sounds like a war zone.

Taxpayers cannot be saddled with all of this funding! Personally, I can't afford anymore taxes. I will not vote for more money for schools. Sorry. Parents, step up!

Isn’t that life anyway? You are continually cracking the code to everything and it isn’t really solving anything.

Then you weren't paying attention.

Jodie tell us how they are going to instantly start teaching the children that are complying with the rules? This was a bunch of mumbo jumbo about how we are going to fix a bunch of misbehaving YAHOOOOS But it was not about teaching without disruptions or about calming a classroom down after the disruption occurs.

Commonconservative she was talking to me she thinks that I don’t pay attention. Cracking a code I have to break the assignment into pieces to accomplish it. No wonder I don’t learn anything from the assignment other than failure but that life.

Jodie only heard what she wanted to hear, she wanted to hear about the poor messed up kids , not the rest of the classroom which is what this is about . They need a quiet classroom and that should be the first priority. Dealing with the incorrigible is a whole other matter that they are failing in the extreme.

Yup

agreed

Guarantee, they'll start pushing boarding kids at the schools and keep them all week as a solution. Total control.

the feminists don't like this though, women don't like this. Women do not want monogamy.

It would be great to have more parent volunteers in the schools but not simply as facilitators of what the schools want.

It’s not parenting it’s teaching and they have no clue how to do it

Exactly, The schools are attempting to do what is impossible.Like Increasing the height of each students by an extra two inches.

You have some great points and I agree with you!

I don't have kids so I'm far from a child expert but I knew no children needs consequences. We're not doing any favors by not giving them consequences

I agree , when children started sueing there parents we were done .

@@kennethmeeker6369 *Casually ignores* sometimes people sue their parents because their parents are abusive but not abusive enough to lose their rights. If your children hate you, it's on you. You're the grownup. If your adult child hates you, it's on you. You were the grownup when they were a child. Whatever you have done to make your own kid hate you, it is 100% on you. Children love their parents. If they stopped, it's because of multiple betrayals over multiple timelines.

@@rodneymills6477 not abusive enough to lose there rights sounds like the whooped your ass like it should have been if you didn’t mind them lol

Maria Ruiz yes! It’s the other people who don’t want to discipline and just want to “care” aka “baby” the students, that are causing the problem in the first place. Obviously the parents aren’t going to change or discipline their kids. Some students rely on school being the only place for them to get the structure and discipline they need and deserve. And sadly students don’t get that anymore.

Yes, Maria. You are spot on. The two guys were truthtellers. Kindergarten should be developmentally age appropriate-- hands-on, language and social skills. As a Kindergarten teacher, I had something very interesting happen. One year, I had six very young sudents, who were disruptive and enjoying it. We conferenced with all parents. Only two of my students' parents enacted consequences. They were Asian. One couple took away all toys, and the child was only given paper and pencil. The other child was held accountable, because the dad was a highschool teacher and did not want his child to end up like some of the kids in his class. These two students became my top students. Laurie

That lady was a know-it-all and I just don’t trust her all-around answers to everything problem “in her school.”

Exactly. The, or at least one, purpose of punishment and normal discipline is to avoid real prison later. What if this lack of discipline, or an alternative of insane discipline, IS the school-to-prison-pipeline?

oliviaxvibes yes. I hated that the women associated success with reduced expectations-which also meant easier work for dumb kids. That is so offensive and untrue. What happened to differentiated instruction. Challenging work doesn’t mean MORE work. Or HARDER work. It means worthwhile. And these kids have no stability at school too. People like that principal are a huge part of the problem So Sick of hearing trauma.

@@gg_rider I know, at 12:51 she was so fucking annoying

I hate that she tried to frame punishment as some kind of nonsense school to prison pipeline crap. Meanwhile the many who want to learn cant because of the few knuckle heads. Her view is dangerous and irresponsible.

As Mr.Spock would say"totally illogical."

No, you need a belt!

@@victormalyar9200 Indeed.

The male teachers will not even apply for the job as long as the laws and the power structure is set up to punish--then control--ALL expression of masculinity. The male teachers are forced to accept being neutered, or face imminent termination, just for living like MEN. They are badgered from day one, with sensitivity training videos and in-service "exercises."

Slaanesh Nurgle No we need more teachers of colour lol these teachers care nothing about there students she is just there for attention shame on her for even mentioning that.

That teacher, Nichole Watson is screaming "woke, soft teaching" to me. She was immediately combative and clearly felt offended and attacked by the notion of consequences. The implication that the other teachers weren't "compassionate and caring" because they weren't focused on every kid's individual trauma, DAILY??? IT was so gross. And the whole "teachers of color" thing, again, like the kids from previous generations didn't learn and thrive or regularly excelled without them? Please There's millions of kids who grew up poor, disadvantaged and with mental health/ behavior issues before 2010. I grew up in a poor community, an immigrant neighborhood with plenty of white teachers and kids' parents who worked 2 or more jobs each. The in class violence and assault was rare, maybe once a year, by one kid per grade, if that. Because THE PARENTS DID THEIR JOB AS PARENTS. Because the teachers were backed by the system and the parents. So tell me how the kids didn't behave like this without the tech, with the racism, the lack of funding, without the privilege of being white, without the middle class income, before 2010??? Let's be real. The school system isn't backing teachers, and parents aren't parenting properly.

It doesn't need to be the majority of students for this level of disruption to occur.

The schools need a universal policy for all students and when children break those rules, they must leave the room.

Exactly

We can start with sustainable wages so that two parents don't have to work and the mother can stay home and raise the children like they were meant to .!!

That's what they usually do in the teacher's meetings, too!

That black lady thinks that she can give all the love to their kids and that will change them, don't get me wrong I know kids need attention but u can't be that child's parent either. Remember that ur getting paid only to TEACH, not to show love nor put up with these spoil kids fits. The main problem here is these kids PARENTS. DISCIPLINE UR KIDS PEOPLE. U MIGHT THINK THAT A LITTLE WHOOPING MIGHT NOT FIX ANYTHING THAT THEIR IS OTHER WAYS TO HELP UR KIDS BUT IN REALITY UR DOING A WRONG TO UR KID SINCE WHEN HE/SHE GROWS UP, SOCIETY WILL NOT PUT UP WITH THEM AT ALL. IF MY KID GETS INJURED DO TO SOMEONE ELSE KID THEN BELIEVE ME I WILL GO AND BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF HIS DAD JUST TO SHOW THE KID A LESSON

Exactly! She needs to learn because in five years she will feel the way they do. Trust me on that.

Let's not jump ahead and judge her. She has just not experienced what 'emotional exhaustion' feels like. Not every classroom is going to reform with love

He doesn’t have a dad, obviously.

Yes please! Referrals right away. No more spoiling them with "pet talks" (as they are called), with go to the class next door, etc.

"...zone out on screens..." Where do you get your data that they're "zoning out." Are you aware that kids are learning basic technical skills when working with computers? It's what they do now. "...start disciplining kids..." Check out the local, state, and federal regulations in place in your area about what teachers are allowed to do and are restrained from doing to control their classrooms. How do you suggest a teacher "discipline" a kid who's just destroyed a classroom, scared, and maybe attacked, other students, and possibly physically attacked the teacher? I'm sure teachers would appreciate your input.

I've not been in the school since the 80s I don't have any kids but I'm watch some of these teacher talks and former teachers talking. There really needs to be consequences in schools for these kids. That doesn't mean ok hitting them but you got to do something to them. People learn from their consequences and how you handle failure shows Who You Are. About 10 years ago I went to a mental health Workshop in the presenter talked about how parents are creating narcissist. Do everything for for their kids and don't let them face the consequences of their behavior

@@StopWhining491 we’re talking about changing the laws that’s the entire point! Physically remove these children from the room! Put them in time out! If an adult like this in public they are physically removed the premise! You are not allowed to throw violent fits in Walmart if you’re upset. If you do not get removed the police are called, and if you are a threat of violence to police and the public they detain you and remove you with force. Some of these children will grow up being dealt with so gently, and will be hurt in real life when they try this shit in real life situations.

Seriously! “More funding” was all that one lady had to say. For what? I don’t know, but more funding was her answer. When you don’t have a grasp of what’s needed, more funding won’t fix it. Look at the government.

@Gary Songer All the lawmakers on the panel were democrats!

Sensory rooms are supposed to be for people with autism only.

Even Third World nations have more classroom discipline. I've seen it personally.

Japan is high iq and homogeneous

There it is!

Well, I don't believe in God, but I'd definitely spank my kids if I had any.

Amen. No one should overdue it but I did discipline both of my sons. I am their father, not their friend. They are both excellent people now, thank God!

Yup.

Bx: A Western nation called Mexico can do it. Touring schools there, I talked to a principal who said he is the authority in school when it comes to troublemakers. If he says they are out they are gone. Done. The schools in Mexico are orderly places with pleasant kids, compared to many U.S. schools.

@@malcolmmarzo2461 I dont think mexico is considered a western, idk who told you 😂, western is west europe, united states, Canada, Australia. What makes you think mexico is part of the western nations?

@@eliza1826 Mexico is very much a Western culture. Mexico speaks a European language. Mexico is a Christian country. "Hispanic" refers to Hispania, a part of the Roman Empire. In modern times Mexico is very much aligned with U.S. culture. Indeed, by exploring and settling the Western states ,before Washington was born, they define a large part of U.S. culture. During WWII they were allied enough with the U.S. that they sent a fighter squadron against the Japanese in the Philippines. U.S. Hispanics have the highest number of Medals of Honor per capita. The first Marine to die in Iraq was born in Mexico. Mexicans drive Ford and Chevy pickups and drink Bud Lite :- ) They are not "aliens."

@@malcolmmarzo2461 so? Christianity started in middle east, not western europe. In fact most western nations aren't religious. Second, yes your language is Spanish but its modern Spanish, does that make Filipino a western nation too, or south African countries a western nation since they were colonized by France. Mexico has it's own culture that is way different to western nations like europe or America, they have nothing in common. Show me actual proof that mexico is part of the western nation, because I have never heard them being part of the western world. That would mean russia is too.

@@malcolmmarzo2461 "Turkey, Russia, and Mexico are considered "torn countries" that are either already part of the West or in the process of joining the West. Wider classification of the Western world, including ex-colonies with strong European sociocultural influence." Wikipedia. Your welcome. So if you think you are part of it, then that means russia and Turkey are too, which they aren't.

Yes, the African American teacher and the principal are reading from the text. This conversation went south once the principal and the African American teacher lead most of the conversation. They are enablers.

Just listening to them say things like “restorative circle” and “social and emotional learning” tells me all I need to know about these teachers’ training. Ed schools and the teachers’ unions have really done a number on education in America.

Yeah I think they believe ALL kids with behaviour issues have trauma or are homeless. I work in a private school. My kids got phones, tablets, money and trips. They still punch each other AT the school. They are beyond UNGRATEFUL and Disrespectful. The parents are to blame. As we are in quarantine they are meeting they children and they don't like it. The parents need to take responsibility. No matter what, we teeacher are NOT their parents. We can love them, listen to them abd care but I thibk sometimes teacher project themselves Wayyy too much into their students. Sometimes hugs can't fix it all. It is sad but true

agreed. I grew up with many of the issues they are speaking to. Discipline taught me very important lessons growing up. When I was growing up, we experienced social isolation as the punishment for bad behavior. I'd say it worked well on me and my peers. I just learned about these room clears, and I don't remember seeing anything like that in school. That sounds very odd to me. When did that become a thing? I was in school in the 90's and every trouble maker would be removed from class vs. the other way around.

I mostly agree, but how do you convince (maybe require?) parents to be involved in their children's schooling.

@@StopWhining491 Well from a disciplinary standpoint, every single parent out there regardless of their own level of education and income is 100% able to instill good, positive, moral values and work ethics into their children from the day they are born until the day they are out of the nest. From an academic angle: parents are strongly encouraged to read to their children every night before bed, go the library, museums, and other educational places with their children regularly, check in on their homework every night to at least make sure their children have completed the assignment per the directions and either placed the finished work in their backpack to take to school and turn it in the next day or submit it online in a timely fashion. Plus, reading and responding to school emails from their children's teachers checking in with the teachers themselves to stay on top of their children's academic and social-disciplinary progress at school on a regular basis is more than welcomed!

When I was a kid in the 80s parents weren’t required to be involved in our schooling at all. Some parents chose to become involved, but it wasn’t required. And we didn’t have these problems. Did the kids with super involved parents have better outcomes where they were in AP classes, student council, staring in all of the school plays, ending up going to Pac 10 colleges? Yes. But the rest of us who had extremely uninvolved parents like mine didn’t end up claiming “trauma.” I never threw chairs or talked back to teachers, and I ended up going on to state college. Sure I might have gotten farther in life if my parents were more involved, or even a little bit involved, in my schooling. But blaming this all on lack of parental involvement when parents are now required to volunteer for school events, do their kids homework with them, send snacks, show up for every event - well that’s just completely incorrect. Signed someone who remembers when parental involvement wasn’t a thing

@@munimathbypeterfelton6251 One might say that this entire crisis is the fault of helicopter parenting, not lack of parental involvement. We had zero parental involvement back in my day and I never saw a kid throw a chair in class. Not once. It seems to me that too much parental involvement is causing a lot of these problems. Back in my day kids were expected to rise to adult levels and behave. I was lucky enough to have well read parents who modeled good behavior. I don’t see this happening these days. I see parents who are extremely entitled raising kids who are extremely entitled, and centering their world around their kids to the point of raising brats who expect the world to bow to their every whim.

​@@goodgrief888you had involvement at home and consequences right? How can a parent be a helicopter parent when they are barely with their child??