That is true in most places but this is a native community in the far north of Canada. These kids' parents were mostly raised in residential schools (google it- it's heartbreaking) and don't make the best parents when they're messed up from years of abuse and neglect. There are a lot of problems in these communities like alcohol abuse and child neglect. I worked as a substitute teacher up north and it was a major culture shock. It is normal to see an 8 year old babysitting an infant for days at a time and very young kids roaming the streets at 3am in the summer when it doesn't get dark. Giving these kids this kind of incentive actually works when they don't always get positive reinforcement at home. In some cases, the teachers are the only ones raising these kids. Also, It doesn't help the stealing problem when a chocolate bar costs $5 at the Northern Store.
*LlamaPyjamas * again theirs nothing bad from stealing from Wal-Mart I buy their they get richer I get poorer hell nah how about I steal they get poorer
Maniac935 And you'll get a criminal record 😁 and they're never gonna get 'poorer' I'm not American but I know as a fact 'wal-mart' is a huge collection of shops,where a huge number of people go daily. I highly doubt they'll run out of money...
So their was a problem with shoplifting and they decided to start a reward program for doing good deeds in a random school? It’s not relevant and won’t help, they need cameras and police their or something
The problem was kids stealing and the school was not random, it is the one near the store and they are encouraging good bahavior, which in turn decrease bad behavior such as theft
DarthDavid 227 Forcing minors to go to a corrupt systems doesnt teach them anything statistically it leads them on a horrible path of crimes. By rewarding and trachi ng them to be good reinforces positive psychological applications that further can be improved on. Not everything has to be solved by throwing them in jail
If you want to stop shoplifting do what we do at Home Depot which usually works pretty well if you look for the signs of someone who's about to shoplift. See if they're twitchy, nervous and constantly looking at you. Next give excellent customer service. If they're walking around with a couple items in their cart each person from a different area ask "is there anything I can help with today?" Make sure there's a presence known of associates. Then they know they've been caught. By greeting and asking all the customers questions to see if they need help it detours them because they know you're right there. It's better to prevent a shoplifting than to stop one in progress after they've gotten outside.
Well let me put it this way, they weren't rewarding people FOR stealing, they were showing them that doing good can result in good without hurting others
lmfao I aint even a liberal, im just sayin they weren't just handing money to fuckin thiefs, they were trying to get thiefs to see the good in good deeds. Sorry your parents raised you by beating your ass every time you didn't something wrong.
Bribing anyone to not do bad behavior has been proven time and time again to be ineffective and simply doesn't work. When a parent does it, it's considered bad parenting and spoiling the kid. To apply this to real crime and criminals is patently absurd. But to make matters worse, there is no connection between rewarding children for good behavior and loss prevention. Total nonsense.
Lols4you! No it's called positive reinforcement. They teach kids that being good is a good thing so they grow up and continue that habit as an adult. There's nothing pathetic about it, it's called educating.
What I am saying is, children think “I’m not going to be a good person because they aren’t giving me a reward.” That’s what bad parents raise children like. Yes, it teaches them that good things come out of being a good person. But it also gives them the idea that a reward is REQUIRED in order for them to be a good person. In reality, you can be a good person without needing a reward. Yet, children don’t understand that or don’t want to do that because they are so used to being rewarded for something that should always be done.
Lols4you! Well I guess it's based on the idea the child will still have good parents by the time they're 18. And they would still be in school by then. That way they won't ever have the "children are so used to be rewarded" problem. By the time they face this problem they wouldn't be children anymore. They will be adults asking themselves how to live their life. Should they each look out for themselves? Or should they not only make good decisions but also go the extra mile to help out their fellow man, like they've been doing all their life? Personally I like what they are doing, anything is better than nothing.
Lols4you! But isn't it better than the opposite, which is not being bad only out of fear of punishment? Meaning you'll still do whatever you think you can "get away with". That just teaches people how to be sneaky/deceptive, and makes them resentful of authority to boot. Vs a reward/incentive approach which actually requires proactive positive behavior.
New York State is doing something similar where if someone is convicted of any misdemeanor or a class E felony (has to be a non-violent crime), they will not get arrested, but ticketed and put on probation. In NYC, it is a only a violation if someone below the poverty line scales a fare checkpoint on MTA transportation services. The consequence for that will be a mandatory participation in any program that helps people in poverty.
People don't seem to see how this works. But honestly the whole point of jail is to correct the person and change them for the good. Except in America you don't have that which is why most criminals return compared to places like Sweden that have had to close down jails because they are unneeded. To everyone saying they should go to jail, chances are that jail is going to make them much worse than they were before. Correction and teaching them sociable behaviour is much better for them in the long run and the people around them. The voucher acts as a reward for them to aim for.
These folks need to meet my dad! Back in the day you took the beating, I was the oldest son, and Let me just say after He was through, as God as my witness I walked the straight and narrow, It's not like he started snapping bones ok,, But his point was well understood, The old man didn't play
To teach them how to be better criminals. I am on the fence on putting kids in jail for a first offence except for major crimes, maybe this program in the school will make kids think of others first before they commit a crime. Yes, there has to be consequences for what they did but juvie for the first time is not it.
Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. I'm an Atheist, I just enjoy reminding you guys that you are a bunch of hypocrites, and your God isnt gonna be happy when it looks at your internet history.
This man saw a problem bigger than theft and chose to act to better his community. Less theft was a bonus but you can tell he was in it to help others first.
this is some elementary school kind of discipline. It's understandable for the much younger kids, but high school/middle school age kids should know to not steal and should know to be a decent person without reward.
In London this is endemic and part of opening a shop and running its accounts (the funniest and most cowardly case I know of meant the security manager of a large department store in Chelsea was the biggest thief. His entire house was arranged as a branch of the shop he was well paid to protect. He was asked to leave on full pension to avoid bad publicity and still gave evidence on the shop's behalf at pending court cases for shoplifter cases he'd overseen-while he was stealing. He had four lawnmowers and no lawn.) Companies are cowardly when employees steal, even if its from customer credit cards-by making copies-the publicity is far worse than the crime so they act with extreme discretion, do nothing, especially if they're world famous and pay a lot for advertising. There are always journalists in court. If you are a customer accused of shoplifting just say nothing except ask for a lawyer, remember 'anything you say may be taken down and used in evidence against you...' The police are pretty shifty because they're statistically terrrible at everyday crime and will try and gull you. If you see a tape recorder shut the hell up and assume you're in North Korea.
It should be legal to have a photo gallery of thieves outside the store, if you're caught your photo goes up so that everyone knows what you did and of course you'd be banned from the store. Theft and shoplifting is rife, public shaming won't work with all of them - some people might see it as a badge of honour but even they will feel a tinge of shame when friends and family see their face in the rogues gallery.
Teenage shoplifters should be embarrassed at their schools. Like, they could take a picture of the CCTV footage and ask nearby schools if they recognise that student. If so, a worker from that store should give them a warning or whatever during their class, or a police officer if it’s serious. Embarrassment is always the best way.
They soon figured out that the Nice Program was'nt fully working so they supplemented it with the Electric Chair for Thieves Program which has proven to be shockingly effective!!
That’s an awesome idea all schools should do that that will make all the kids want to be good . That’s the best thing that can happen in all are schools .
You shouldn’t get trophies for not winning, and there shouldn’t be a standard reward for doing something you ought to do. The reward should be the deed itself.
We reward people who steal from our liquor store with a free trip to the hospital and if that's not good enough they also get a free trip to the jail. We encourage theft at our liquor store so my brother and the rest of us get to use what we learn at the MMA gym in real life situations without the worry of going to jail for it or beating up someone who doesn't deserve it. The trick is to never start fighting in the store otherwise you will have a bunch of other work after you beat up someone. Wait until they go outside before you smash on them. Also remember these thieves are the enemy and your enemy deserves no mercy.
I remember that at Woolworths, my brother (12) and I (15) were asked "Can I check your bags" by a woman who we saw all the time there, our school bags were checked since it's a policy to check childrens' and teens' bags, and keep in mind, my brother and I don't steal, and when we left, my mom complained about it since it happens all the time when we were at Woolworths, and my mom gets pissed very quickly. I understand they don't want shoplifters but they're kind of assuming that all and kids teens steal, and that woman knew that we don't steal, and my mom also made sure that we never did that. It happened around 3 weeks ago.
Actual good kids are going to feel bad when the kids that are bullying them (and shoplifting) are getting special rewards because they can't keep their hands to themselves.
It's called positive reinforcement people. Unfortunately, some people MUST get rewarded for doing something most of us realize is just the right thing to do. It's because their parents or responsible people in their lives are checked out, so they DON'T get it the natural way. It's sad, but necessary. You recognize a kid a couple of times, and it becomes a part of their nature, just like most of us. Relax. It's ok to give a kid some props when they behave. It's not bankrupting ANYONE. I've worked in schools for the last 25 years. This is something we all must do as human beings. IT TAKES A VILLAGE y'all! It won't kill ya, and might make you feel good too.
This may work, but this is still showing children that they should expect a reward for being good. Extrinsic motivation is being used here when children should be learning how to be motivated in a intrinsic manner.
In middle school we had a thing like this called the awesome draw. If you were caught doing something good you got a slip and it was drawn at the end of every month. It was built in a way so that every student would win at least once in their middle school lifetime. About 75% of students never even got a slip. If you’re genuinely good you don’t make it a spectacle. There was this entire group of kids that straight up went around pretending to fix problems for each other. All theatre. Good kids never win, everything was just for show. The entire school was survival of the smartest, and I guess those fuckers did deserve it. They put so much work into that charade that it consumed all of their free time. Meeting every day after school in the library to fake helping each other study, blackmailing kids to clean their lockers so they were always spotless. It took over them. One of them won every month, and it was always a spectacle. 10 8th graders all in a huge clump, arguing softly so as to not get caught. Always over the money, always at each others throats. Lord of the Flies at the lunch table. They never talked again after they went into high school, some say they ruined over a decade of friendship. They’re nothing once they hit the big time. No way to kiss up anymore, no kiss up grades or kiss up privileges. They don’t even know how to cope: all for a $15 iTunes gift card shared between the 10 of them once a month. Probably would have been easier to get a job.
@@mr.generic5100 Lmao I forgot about this comment. Yeah, I’m a writer and pretty much every time I try to tell a story it comes out like this. Totally on accident, mind you.
I really hope it works out, store owner is actually trying to do something good. God bless and don't let the evil of the world dictate the goodness you release into the world
I love how this idea is working yet people still say this is stupid. Prevention tactic work people this has been proven to work better than harsher punishments time and time again. Why can’t people see this
Bull, this does nothing to stop the bulk of shoplifting in a grocery store. Meat, alcohol, Similac, OTC medicines make up the largest dollar loses for a store and are often part of criminal rings.
Rehabilitation is the key to a successful punishment system. America has yet to realize this that is why our prison population is so large. You can’t just throw someone in a cell and expect them to change their minds, the psychological aspects have to be worked on.
I’m sorry, but when you do something wrong and you get rewarded you’re not going to stop doing it. If I got $100 if I stole something I would keep doing it. That’s not the way to teach people to not do something again
What a load of CRAP! You don't CIRCLE TALK around kids doing CRIME, you PUNISH THEM so they KNOW that there are CONSEQUENCES to CRIME that they would RATHER AVOID. Want to REWARD someone, FINE then pick the kid who's IN school, getting good grades and DOESN'T STEAL IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!
"Tuk" is about the northernmost mainland community in Canada. Prices are at least triple typical southern Canada. Very cold weather most of the year means teens say they have "nothing to do" except stay indoors and steal. Over 80% of the population is eskimo / native, and white families only come for high-paying oil / resource sector jobs, the rest collect welfare.
