Thank you Avinash for posting insightful videos on “return to India”. Rajiv and Meena I am glad that you made a bold move. Thank you both for your valuable time.
Thank you for sharing the story, both of you so humble, so true, touched my heart, i am in east coast, wish I had meet you or listen channel. Feel proud of you and anchor for bring great story like this. Thank you
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Inflation in India is at nonsensical levels for a poor country. Dosa for 150 rs today vs 20 rs in 2004? Housing at US prices in India? What crap. Businesses in India are mimicking the west and try to fleece the public, but salary levels are no where comparable to what they are in other countries. We cannot have so much inflation in a poor and developing country like India.
You don't even have to pay for water, grains and so many other things. In the US we pay a heavy price and tax for everything. If you can't pay your taxes you become homeless.
Thanks for sharing, but many of these interviews are misleading. Most of them would be having US (non-India) citizenship and kids would be going back to the US for further studies.
Thanks for watching and providing your thoughts. Actually lot of interviews in the channel are other way aroundround ( indiam citizens who moved). Intent is to bring stories at different stages of life. Thanks
If kids are born in US, I think you can move back anytime. It’s a no brainer. It’s a different deal if your kid is born in India and if you still donot have a greencard. Then you are leaving everything behind. In many of your videos - we are talking about people who still have roots in the US.
If you are not comfortable at HOME is beyond my imagination... Every country has their own challenges... Positives and Negatives are everywhere.. You are always be an OUTSIDER.
I do not know why this vedio. 99% of people living in US ( Malayalee) never return to Kerala or India in normal. This family may be having different problems. Their children are US citizens. They will go back again. These people are, I think, having IT people. They will go back again to US to reap the fruits there. USA is a very good place for professionals people.
Kerala looks good only on paper , most literate state etc etc but to live there is very difficult compared to other southern states in India. Even keralites who have lived over 20 years in other states majority don’t return.Guess then what happens to them when they go to us, uk , nz …. No wonder
By what age it gets difficult for kids to adapt in India. We had a good family emergency and that makes me think, we would want to back permanently to India in some time. My daughter is currently 5, will it be too difficult for the child 3-4 years down the line when we would want to move back permanently?
Its better to move earlier as feasible. Once kids are in middle school it becomes more difficult to adapt. But keep those trips happening and kids excited about spending time in India during holidays and that would help with smooth transition
I see many of the comments are against the couple which seems to be just the grapes are sore kind of comments. I'm assuming some those folks are at this video just to convince themselves that life outside India is not great. Having said very realistic input from both the couple. It's actually interesting that they moved back when their daughter was pretty young in spite of having green card and US citizenship. Yes they do have the option of going back if they don't like it in India which is the I think primary takeaway here since as humans we want to have options always. Just one note that the guy is not very great at communication. It was so hard to listen to him for long 😊. She's certainly much more outspoken than him and it's clear that the move was more from his side than her and she obviously misses US more than him😊
It would be nice if this video could have addressed some of the financial aspect questions ? How do you handle your investments ( home, 401K, stocks, bank accounts) from India. Do you have to close everything? Take tax penalty. Or can you do portion of management from India and move back things remotely at a slower Pace??
Please check 2-3 videos we did in similar topics related to finances on the channel. We plan to bring more content related to these topics in the near future
US citizenship, I had green card, advised by an international lawyer in California that in my case, it was best to get rid of the green card asap. Done and Dusted. No regrets.
First, have you renounced your US citizenship? Have your child(ren) renounced citizenship? If NO, then its all hogwash. Quality of material life & professional life in India is pathetic. Law & enforcement in India is best not discussed. Judiciary, people only have contempt for it. All these make a country as first world, which US is. There is nothing wrong in settling in US or other developed country if one gets an opportunity. But faking it for India is hypocritical.
@@fwefhwe4232 junk. If u do not understand India, do not talk. If you get into any small trouble in INdia with police (like someone hit u on ur car and its not ur fault), the way u would be looted for money is something best experienced. The legal recourse for just about anything takes decades and drive millionaires into poverty. Its not that in US or other country its cheap but at least its quick unlike here where u keep paying lawyers for decades. Cities are very dusty and dirty. Education is old and archaic. It is rote based edu even in unis (excepts a top few like IIT and its equivalent in law, business, commerce, journalism, history, ...etc.) Medical is like alibaba 40 theives. It is not protocol based treatment in India but it is ur net worth based. So keeping all the privileges of US citizenship and talking big in India is of no use. So renounce first then talk. Or simply state the truth. US citizenship has its own advantage in edu especially funding/scholarship and many other advantages in job, ...etc.
Please return. Only dalits muslims and ONCs shoudl be allowed in the US. MOst upper caste are having a hard time living in liberal and democratic societies. Move at the earliest becasue controlling women with patriarchial norms is the essence of brahminism. No one will miss you in the US. AIr India one way ticket
During old age it’s difficult tasks for Lawn moving and removing snow and in overly old age it’s again difficult to drive self for hospitals and do household work for women’s. This is when they remembered India. So that they get maid. After earning crores n crores u can easily give away some money to tc. This is actual fact and none would like to talk about the it….
The thing which I do not like about USA/UK but many Indians thinks this is the reason why they have settled in USA. Many NRI think they have taken pain to live in west because of their child bright future but they do not realise your kids will have problemetic family life and they may suffer in their middle age by the time you will be gone from this wolrd. They will have to find partner on their own. Indian parent now do not want to marry their kid to those who are born and spend all their life in USA/UK so your kids will on their own like natives but if you look in natives a good percentage of them have relationship problem, many are not bale to find suitable partner by the age of 40. By the time of third generation stable family life condition deteriorates. Not all will have this fate but likelyhood of this is much higher by your third generation in usa than in India. Indian gets influenced by american culture living in India, just imagine how much your kids will be influenced by anglo saxon culture in USA from school. Most of them even religious will have less spritual connection to Hinduism, in India even athesit will have some spritual connection to Hinduism. The school holidays are according to christians. We do not realise how much indirectly this effect the kids and enforce feeling of minority. You are living with confident in USA because you have grown in India among your own people and by the time you gone usa your behaviour is not going to change, even you are miniority you will not have fear of minority in usa. But condition of your second and third generation is completley different. In Anglo saxon culutre the relationship between child and parent is not so deep like in Indian culture. As a result the relationship between your second and third generation will be not so deep like you and your parent. The second and third generation will suffer lonliness more in their old age or after middle age compare to you.
I lived in us for 12 yrs and been india for 12 yrs and I can tell you the wrong decision to come to India. Now by next year I will be leaving for another country permanently.
So basically think long term don't let little things bother you. You'll enjoy your life. Long term goal - living with parents or in-laws, kids education in good/international schools, easy access to healthcare, overall things are cheaper compared to US/ you get help if you want/ more services n professional help. Write down what are your Short term goals : maybe find friends/ social circle, access to groceries, library, parks, at times free activities.
Considering the consideration, what I can say is, I mean, let me put it this way, so what it all comes to is that....finally.... Your questions are too long. Making it short would make it interesting to watch. Editing the guest's rants will also help.
Very insightful. What is the ideal window to make a move back to India? especially if you are in living in US with 2 kids. I guess i missed the bus, but like to know your views on ideal window for making such a move successful from family(kids here as well as old parents back home) standpoint. I do not want others to miss the bus or this window of returning back to India. Thank you..!
Glad you liked the episode. Ideally when kids are young and parents are still healthy. Anytime before kids go in middle year, they will adjust very well asss they are visiting India regularly. Good luck!
I think move by the time your kids can start going to school in India by class 6 or 7. This will give good time to adapt before 10th borad exam. If good in study than by class 8th is also 0K. The thing which I do not like about USA/UK but many Indians thinks this is the reason why they have settled in USA. Many NRI think they have taken pain to live in west because of their child bright future but they do not realise your kids will have problemetic family life and they may suffer in their middle age by the time you will be gone from this world. They will have to find partner on their own. Indian parent now do not want to marry their kid to those who are born and spend all their life in USA/UK so your kids will on their own like natives but if you look in natives a good percentage of them have relationship problem, many are not able to find suitable partner by the age of 40. By the time of third generation stable family life condition deteriorates. Not all will have this fate but likelyhood of this is much higher by your third generation in usa than in India. Indian gets influenced by american culture living in India, just imagine how much your kids will be influenced by anglo saxon culture in USA from school. Most of them even religious will have less spritual connection to Hinduism, in India even athesit will have some spritual connection to Hinduism. The school holidays are according to christians. We do not realise how much indirectly this effect the kids and enforce feeling of minority. You are living with confident in USA because you have grown in India among your own people and by the time you gone usa your behaviour is not going to change, even you are miniority you will not have fear of minority in usa. But condition of your second and third generation is completley different. In Anglo saxon culutre the relationship between child and parent is not so deep like in Indian culture. As a result the relationship between your second and third generation will be not so deep like you and your parent. The second and third generation will suffer lonliness more in their old age or after middle age compare to you.
first lets start with the obvious, 40% of graduates in india below 25 are jobless now. so in the future if this does not change we will be close to 50 % or more. In that case would you call the education system a success that you feel your kids will benefit? . Honest question.
You should ask how much networth they are at when they decided to move, tbh, these all are side talks, the real game is the exchange rate, what wver u have gets ×6 or ×8 when you go back to India, and of course, India is the best country for those whose pockets are full, as then you have the law and everything by your side.
People who move back to India later they turn as US citizens or Canadian citizens or GC have always flexibility and advantage if they want to go back, I respect though. But mad respect to folks who move back to India when they are in visa! It is not an easy decision
Pradeep those who moved back are lucky. This is belessing in disguise. The thing which I do not like about USA/UK but many Indians thinks this is the reason why they have settled in USA. Many NRI think they have taken pain to live in west because of their child bright future but they do not realise your kids will have problemetic family life and they may suffer in their middle age by the time you will be gone from this wolrd. They will have to find partner on their own. Indian parent now do not want to marry their kid to those who are born and spend all their life in USA/UK so your kids will on their own like natives but if you look in natives a good percentage of them have relationship problem, many are not bale to find suitable partner by the age of 40. By the time of third generation stable family life condition deteriorates. Not all will have this fate but likelyhood of this is much higher by your third generation in usa than in India. Indian gets influenced by american culture living in India, just imagine how much your kids will be influenced by anglo saxon culture in USA from school. Most of them even religious will have less spritual connection to Hinduism, in India even athesit will have some spritual connection to Hinduism. The school holidays are according to christians. We do not realise how much indirectly this effect the kids and enforce feeling of minority. You are living with confident in USA because you have grown in India among your own people and by the time you gone usa your behaviour is not going to change, even you are miniority you will not have fear of minority in usa. But condition of your second and third generation is completley different. In Anglo saxon culutre the relationship between child and parent is not so deep like in Indian culture. As a result the relationship between your second and third generation will be not so deep like you and your parent. The second and third generation will suffer lonliness more in their old age or after middle age compare to you.
@@DesiReturn excellent ethnography of upper caste angst. Can you also find out what they think about democracy and whether the US is more racist while India is just casteist. It would be great to see how these Brahmins are fixing their future
@@RS-ox1vd Let me give you a test and see if you are really an upper caste bigot: Are you for reservations and will you argue for it to be extended to the private sector. If the answer is NO. I understand your politics. Are you for the caste based census ? If the answer is NO. You are making your politics even more clearer. Are you willing to shout Godse Murdabad ? If the Answer is No, then all the more clearer about your upper caste prejudice bias and hate against us. You people are the most pampered minority in India. Now busy gaming the liberal democratic system in the WEST. After exploiting the dalit and tribals and making OBCs work on producing your food you people think that we have no right to free ourselves from you exploitation and hate. But the wheels are turning and its a matter of time before we sort out your dirty politics and hate. Jai Hind Jai Bhim
Will never go back to a country which respects Narayan Murthy who pays 2 dollar per hour salary for engineers sucking 98 dollars as commission in between. On top of that he demands 70 hours work week when paying only for 40 hours. As long as such chronic capitalists are given a free hand, hard working middle class will end up dying on the streets with peanut salaries. My cousin in law who passed away with a cardiac arrest at 33 was not even reimbursed for death certificate cost of 10 dollars by Infosys. HR said they are not in the business of transporting dead bodies back to India. Not to mention both of Murthy's kids quit India long back and are not returning even when Mr. Murthy is 78 and showing all signs of dementia.
@@londonds91 His over working and under paying business is in fact killing hundreds of thousands of people with cardiac arrests and you even more by supporting such monsters. China CEO told employees to keep their support phone on 24 hours and she is not their mother to be concerned of their health. And she was made to publicly apologize. Narayan Murthy is demanding 70 hours per week and shameless people like you will support such statements. Sad Indians do not care for their own fellow countrymen.
@gauthamvasudeva9271 Sorry you are wrong. Narayan Murthy is just one of such chronic guys. I am a living example of how Murthy gave 25 thousand rupee salary sucking up 95 % commission from end client and now I earn 80 dollars per hour working for the end clients in USA directly with a Andhra staffing firm as commission agent who sucks only 20 % commission. India is not about Ambani wedding my friend. Indians are talented but peanut salaries by chronic capitalists dissuade people from returning back to India. Cheap labor concept has to go.
@gauthamvasudeva9271 But FAANG has a product. What does WITCH have? Wipro, Infosys, TCS, CTS, HCL?? All you need is a 20 % commission agent in between to ensure more end client dollars are in your pocket as you work for any of the fortune 500 companies in USA as IT techie. You do not need INFOSYS as implementation partner dictating terms to you. Instead of working for 14 hours a day for 1 dollar per hour, work for 7 hours a day for 80 dollars per hour.
By your logic a person will earn just 12800 per month if they are paid 2 dollar per hour. Client allow infosys to increase head count by stanadard calculation of work 40hr per week per head. Infosys pay less to new joiners who needs some training and they are attached with senior who are working on project and get annual salary above 8 lakh. Many freshers are not good to start work immediately even as junior. The reason for this in engineering college in india people are not ready to even work as junior techie on client projects. I have seen few of them who were just ready to work as junior after 2 years on client project. I have guided few my relative on things like what they should learn to work independetly on project as junior dev. I never worked with infosys. This is good for those who take time to learn skill to start as junior on client project as this buy time and also they get payment. But it is bad for those who are already ready after college to work on client project. I do not like infosys but looking at this I appreciate infosys and tcs as this help lots of techie in IT to buy time and stands on their own legs in their carreer and change job after experience and exposure and move to good pay rise in other companies. This is not appreciation post for infosys but accpeting the fact that many people will lost job due to lack of skill and willnot get chance to survive in IT. This is due to indian college education systemm where theory is focussed more than practiclas. The things are changing, many students are skilling themselves on their own from college time. So this model of infosys and tcs will not work for long time.
@@krishnam8872 why not? India is booming with opportunities so why go elsewhere? When they grow up their parents will become old and will need physical help. Who else can they depend on but their children. What’s wrong with you?
@nuranichandra2177 when asking your perspective it doesn’t mean something’s wrong with you or me. I have been seeing and checking a lot of messages and videos regarding this topic since we are planning to move back to India with our kids after living here for more than a decade. Dont read between the lines, all the questions are not derogatory, they might be looking for an elaborate explanation.
@@nuranichandra2177 we can't or should not ever demand or force our children to stay back in India just so that they can look after us. It's kind of selfish in my perspective... We have to let our children explore, experience and grow on their own and we should provide our unconditional support. It should be their wish to live wherever they like...
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. Yes everyone's situation is different. Goal of channel is to provide enough information for people who are considering to move or not make the right decision for them. We are not encouraging people to move or stay abroad but different experiences and factors to consider. Thanks
Yes. My husband's elder sis came back with her husband as her in-laws wanted them to(getting old). She acted like such a sacrificial lamb, accepting the decision, then kept torturing everyone (she used to say "Your country" also), crib and crib and find fault with our country. Took my life out by daily torture and took it out on us, never let us be, Interfering , meddlesome, narrow minded creature. My husband I suffered/suffering. NRIs , please make an informed decision. Both spouses should.
very prescriptive stance..."do this", "think like that"....would've been more effective if they had shared more real examples of how they adjusted, things that worked, things that did not, day to day challenges - for example, when 18:11 the guy says, "life is not perfect" it would have been nice to give instances when they felt so rather than hammering the point about 'knowing why you want to come back'...the interviewer could have asked them to illustrate (interviewer needs to be more relaxed, and carry on a conversation rather than Q&A format)
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. You have to balance the act of hitting the key areas in ~ 30 min and not let conversation drag on. I prefer conversation style and would pay extra attention.
If you listen to most of these people who return they might be having issues in their families or visas or something or the other. Very few come back to India because they like most things about India. The number of people surrendering their Indian citizenship is at record high currently. This was not the case in the past. Democracy is degenerating in India along with it everything eg. foreign policy. If a war comes, India is surrounded by China.
There are lot of people who moved to India not due to visa issues or family issues but who believe in Indian ecosystem. I agree it's only a minor % though.
@@DesiReturni said most of them. There might be a very small minority which returned for other reasons. But again if you look at it, they will be citizens of other countries and will have the buffer to return if needed. The number of people surrendering Indian citizenship is at record high number now. That speaks of something for sure.
It's a great idea to spend six months in India and six months in the US. The freedom to come to India whenever you want and stay as long as you like is truly enjoyable. India definitely feels like home-a perfect place to unwind, relax, and enjoy. We've worked hard in the US, so my plan is to spend six months in India.
It is not a useful discussion for the following reasons.. 1..They are still US citizens otherwise she cant work for a US company. 2.physically staying in India but not being a citizen is hypocritcal at best. 3. All these talks about culture and taking care of parents etc etc all is an eyewash. 4.Finally never trust anyone who returns back to the lavilion after spending 2 decades.. Whatever they say will never be clear and truthful.
1. No need to be USC to work for US company in India. Lot of Indians for US based companies in India 2. Tax paying resident 3. Priorities are different for different people 4.There are quite few people who fall in that category for either retirement or for kids etc
Thanks for the feedback. Again please appreciate that guest took time to share their journey for the benefit of others. if you didn't like, you are welcome to skip it. Will be mindful of questions.
What is the harm is staying in both your homes India and US ? people go to US to make money their heart is always in India once they have money they can come back
After ayodhya inauguration and bharat renaming I expect over 3 million Indians to return over next 3 yrs as layoffs rock western world and they all coordinate recession. Whiteman designed this for indians to return. I also expect foreign made products and services get more attractive for consumption in India. Deals will be signed in world trade organization and west will come to sell more products and services over next 3 - 5 yrs.
This channel should be retitled: Instead of Desi Return it should be 'When Upper caste Hindus decide to play Both sides'. Interesting how their last names have been withheld. Pure politics here. Because this is very clear in how they are talking. Last ten years in India has been hell for Muslims and Dalits and democracy in general. These guys live in lalaland. Of course why should they be involved in politics you will ask. But that is why India has been turned into a nightmare where only upper castes now have the life they want which is to get minorities screwed and dalits humiliated. How can you not mention the fact that India's culture and food has been turned Majoritarian by constantly gutting the constitution. These are typical of the people who would have said lets not speak against Hitler because that is politics and it does not matter what he does to the Jewish people becasue thats politics. Lets just eat our sambar and make sure that the kid gets a quality education. Life is just an idily away from Happiness. Pathetic upper caste insularity. But a good channel to expose this upper caste mind set. Thanks
Ok so let’s discuss this. Muslims and Dalits lives have gotten worse? Muslims Haj is cheaper, monopoly of vendors is removed from haj products, instant theen talak has been removed. More reservation has been brought in for backward classes, by digitizing direct payments are made to the downtrodden removing corruption, toilets have been made across the country etc. the only people not directly befitting are upper caste Hindus but when infrastructure is built all are benefited so they are also befitted. India is racing towards becoming 3rd biggest economy. Gadgari ji has done a fantastic job with infrastructure. So other than the ones who want to see India fail everyone has benefitted. You are spewing castist venom but aren’t we all supposed to remove caste discrimination? If you don’t adjust your mindset only you will suffer. The fact less opinions are only encouraged in echo chambers not the real world.
@ladusingh..Who is in Lalaland...upper caste Hindus are struggling to get good education and job because of SC/ST.They are getting good jobs and admissions in good colleges with less marks. One of my student who studied day and night and got good marks 96% ddnt get admission in his favourite college / but his sc friend who got jst 54% gt admission in the same college .He asked us what s the point in working hard and studying ...when someone snatches ur opportunity without any hardwork
@@Indicthoughts898 I dont normally respond to Andha Bhakts but since your facts are so hilarious let me just give you a couple of international stats on India . India is no longer considered to be even a democracy. The V-Dem institute for the first time ever lists it as an electoral autocracy. That is just for starters. Check out India's position on the Human rights index. 109 lower than several banana republics. As far as those toilets running without water, I have personally seen how they have cooked stats. Dont give us garbage. Muslims dont care for Haj, so even if cheaper. Who cares. You need to stop this communalism this hate that is spewed out regularly and killing of minorities with gau rakshaks and raping dalit women like at Hathras. Oh yes Yogi government killing people in encounters under police watch. Which friggin world you live in. Upper castes are losing their sanity with this Guju mafia. of Modani. Good you have exposed yourself as an upper caste hater of minorities and dalits and obcs. Shame on you.
Wow you only know how to write but unfortunately you only know how to think parochially. You have no sense of reality and are used to parroting the lines of others and that to without any rationale thinking. Please stay safe and don’t blow up.
