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In twilight wings it show ed she hada him when she Was a resercher. And shows than even tho she now is evil and beatiful she Still loyal to the end [That pokemon is her ace, highest level pokemon, her Gmax and the one that shows her true inner nature ]
Yall left out the best one! Silver having a golbat throughout the game but when u finally make him realize friendship it becomes a crobat in the postgame
Also similar case for Cyrus , he is shown to be a sinister person with evil plans , but still his Golbat eventually evolves into a Crobat . This shows that even villains love their pokemon . (Except for Ghetsis , his Hydreigon's Frustration hits with max power)
@@gourishpyne304 It's also theorized that Ghetsis forced his Hydreigon to evolve early (it's level 54 in BW when it's not supposed to evolve from Zweilous until it reaches 10 more levels).
@HimekoIzayoi Ghetsis's team in BW also completely sweeps N's team, his Hydreigon can completely one shot all of N's pokemon, he was fully prepared to betray N from the beginning and it was foreshadowed in his team. It's terrifying.
Its why i love N so much. In all his battles before his final one his team is made up of all pokemon that can be caught in the immediate routes. The implication, and later confirmed truth in B2/W2 memory links, being that he only caught pokemon when he needed to battle and immediately released them afterwards.
@@thedashey What I meant was creating a unique animation of him sending out the Pokémon instead of just relying on the default animation of sending out a pokeball
Kieran's team also goes through a Hop phase in the Teal Mask DLC where his team starts of with cute Pokemon like Yanma and Sentret/Furret, and then his final battle in the Teal Mask his team is now full of mean/wicked looking Pokemon and the once cute Yanma is now the terrifying Yanmega. (And VERY funnily, Hop and Kieran are also VERY similar in that they use Cramorant when they're at their lowest point, but the Cramorant only shows up ONCE before it suddenly disappears.) And Oleana's Garbodor not only acts as Oleana's other side, but lorewise, Oleana WAS very poor before Rose took her in. And her only parter back then? Was a Trubbish.
@@Articfoxgamez If it makes you feel better, in the League Club at Blueberry Academy, when inviting Arven and Kieran they would talk about which Pokemon would be their best bud, and Kieran mentioned Poliwrath, Politoed Yanmega AND Furret then saying he can't choose a favorite!
And I've heard it's also got a flavor theme going. The ones I know for sure are that Garganacl represents salty and Scovillain is spicy. Though Toedscruel could be savory, Mabosstiff bitter, and Greedent sweet. Don't remember what Cloyster represented.
@@VixstraLarge I don't think it's flavor specific as much as they're all either references to food or actually have food on them according to their dex entries: -Shellder/Cloyster is a reference to clams and other shellfish -Scovillain refers to spices/pepper -Sqwovet/Greedant always have berries stored in their cheeks/tail -Toadcool's Dex entry in Scarlet says that it's flaps are edible and delicious -Garganacl's salt can be used as both flavoring and a healing agent
In BW, Ghetsis' Hydreigon has moves that can counter almost all of N's team and it has a super effective Dragon Pulse for the legendaries. Not to mention the rest of his team also counter N's team, implying he was always waiting to betray him. In BW2, Ghetsis has gotten even crazier so he replaces his Hydreigon's effective special attacks with less effective physical attacks, it has a Life Orb, and it has a FULL POWER Frustration, meaning between the events of BW and their sequels, Ghetsis abused his Hydreigon even more.
Honestly it makes sense, whatever sense of duty Ghetsis had to keep his illusion to N of being someone to trust but after the events of B/W he has no need for that anymore… makes sense the abuse kept happening and got worse
Hydreigon are also naturally sweethearts despite their fearsome appearances Ghetsis must've treated the poor thing like absolute dogcrap to get it to hate him that much
@@birb1786 It makes it really easy to take him down if you've specced Ogerpon correctly. Bulky Water Ogerpon can take hits well, combined with Horn Leech, Leftovers or a Sitrus Berry. You don't even have to use Follow Me, just Protect every other turn while your other Pokèmon sweeps his ass.
@@Mr-Trox my main team is a lvl 100 meowscarada and tinkaton and I just swap out the rest. When I fought him I used a lvl 80 ogerpon. Also I only use attacking moves. If it doesn't take health then it's a waste of a move.
I thought you'd point out Gladion's team. Almost all of his pokemon evolve through friendship, which is such a good way to hint that he's kinder than he appears to be, consider the way he must genuinely care for his pokemon, who literally wouldn't have evolved otherwise
Interesting Trivia: Arven was awarded the 2022 Famitsu Dengeki Game Award for Best Character. During the event, Pokémon Scarlet and Violet director Shigeru Ohmori explained via a written message that Arven's character was based on his personal experience of losing his parents at a young age.
Porygon-Z in Kieran’s team represents his corruption. It shows how much different he’s become and how he lost all his original beliefs, and it may or may not have to do with the Loyal Three. That’s why it’s on his team.
I also love how Archie and Maxie have Crobats, how Silver’s Golbat evolves into a crobat at the end of his journey, and how Ghetsis has a maximum power frustration on his Hydreigon. Those little details tell SO much about the characters; I LOVE when pokemon teams are taken into account for the whole character design 🫶 Also still love the theory that the player unknowingly led to the death of Blue’s raticate on the SS Anne, which is why he was at the tower in lavender town and why he stops using raticate
@@daemonmoreno9456 I feel that was likely, he's the same character who has found 40 different species, but only carried around 4, I feel like he's very, VERY selective as far as his party goes
There’s also the fact that when you face off against Blue he has two new pokemon on his team, presumably to replace Raticate (whether it died like in fanon or if he, like many players, decided it was too weak and took off his team)
Lolno. Every subsequent villain with a Crobat is not story-relevant, and is just filling in blanks considering there is no story development for them that implies any sort of friendship/love.
Lol I was wondering when the flood of "um actually"s was gonna come Why bother reading the correction someone posted earlier when ya can just post the same thing
@@mrroboshadow Because the second person believes their own answer fleshes things out more or simply did not read the other reply. BTW Jessie released it so it and James's Weezing could save a group of Koffing and Ekans
Oleanna's trubbish in twilight wings is so cute! She's such a fun character even though she doesn't get much good screentime in the games. A hardworking woman who genuinely loves her pokemon, defending the one man who saw her talent and let her rise above her station even though he has morally dubious plans
Chairman Rose also uses all steel types because he brought this team to deal with the Poison/Dragon Eternatus What he didn’t realize is, Eternatus had Flamethrower
It works so damn well tho. Common mon, usually thought of as nuisance, but given the right person to care for it (heartless as it might be) the mon will care back and give it it's all for you. This message it's brought to you by the love your regional pest association.
Counterpoint: Cyrus. Though you can argue that makes it depressing, seeing as Cyrus's Crobat loves him, but Cyrus obviously doesn't return the sentiment.
@@Mr-Trox it's also serve as a paralel between Cyrus and the rest of Team Galactic as all of the admin are deeply loyal to hil while he doesn't think anything of them
@@Mr-Trox What do you mean, obviously? I think the implication is the exact opposite, that he does care. He just doesn't show it or is bad at showing it. It evolves with Friendship. Friendship is not a one way street, he cared for that Zubat long enough for it to evolve, twice, despite Zubat's being weak as hell.
I swear we gotta stop comparing them just because it's an evolution, one is a defensive pokémon and the other is offensive. Also it's still viable today with download and tri-attack.
@@chemistryalchemy196 Kieran plays VGC, and Porygon Z has only ever been VGC viable in generation 4 with a pretty gimmicky set. And it *definitely* isn't viable anymore, after Ursaluna-Blood Moon stole its lunch.
@@EnderPryde Idk VGC enough to retort on that part but it's definitely still viable in its own tier in solos, doesn't have to be OU or anything since power creep makes it impossible for most mons. And it's still viable in gen 9 NU (a tier that has Flygon, Infernape or even Thundurus) so we defo shouldn't sleep on that thing, nor should we compare it to its defensive pre-evo lol.
@@chemistryalchemy196Porygon 2 isn't purely defensive though, with analytic (or download/trace if you wanna gamble) it can still hit pretty hard with all it's moves while also being beefy with recovery. Pory 2 is just used for support most of the time cause it's the better option
@chemistryalchemy196 Smogon tiers arent exactly the best way to compare a pokemon's viability lol. It's a metagame after all, look at cofagrigus' viability in gen 6 and gen 7. In gen 6 cofagrigus was usable with a solid niche in OU. In gen 7 cofagrigus was ZU and was too terrible for PU. In the end smogon tiers aren't the best way to determine a pokemon's exact power level, it's more of a base of where it could be. Some pokemon are way higher rated because they deal with the meta particularly well while some pokemon are underrated because they just don't match well with the meta game. Porygon-z in particular is interesting because while it is strong enough to threaten a blissey with special attacks using 1 turn of setup, it's also paper frail and isn't fast making it extremely easy to out offense thus making it not that good. It's what other people say, it's a niche pokemon.
This makes me think about Cyrus' Crobat. It's strong, fierce, and can one shot you if you mess around. But Crobat is a pokemon that can only come into being with _love._ It makes me sad to see Cyrus toss his emotions away; but also makes me happy to know that deep, deep down he isn't 100% a bad person.
Thinking about Cyrus suddenly made me think of a comparison to Zamasu from Dragonball In that series, Zamasu is a bad guy, wanting to erase all mortals, but hes also not technically bad? As it was revealed that despite his evil actions, hes still pure of heart (this being further signified by a cup of tea he was serving being unclouded, despite it having properties that reveal your true heart) This being DB's take on being pure of heart, where it isnt just naturally being good or bad, but how you percieve your actions. And since Zamasu perceives his actions as just, hes pure. Makes me wonder if Cyrus is similar, somebody who despite their evil actions, they still see said actions as pure and just, hence the supposed friendship towards his Crobat.
Random fun fact but ghetsis’s team was specifically designed to overpower the legendary dragons and his Hydreigon in the remakes shows its true colors by having frustration probably with max power and funny enough frustration is the first tm the player gets
I know you had time constraints, but Arven also has a team like that, as all of his Pokemon reference food/cooking somehow. I agree, it is nice when important character teams can be more than just a random assembly, or merely type-themed.
Almost all of the Pokèmon Arven catches during the Path of Legends have some form of ingredient or seasoning associated with them that you get from defeating them. Shellder doesn't, but he makes a good pun about serving Klawf a beating on the half shell. Toedscool drops flaps that the Pokèdex explicitly describes as delicious. Nacli drops salt. And Scovillain drops Capsakid seeds, the hottest part of a pepper, iirc. Skwovet/Greedent are just gluttons, and he had that before you started the Titan quest line.
Haven’t played the game but wasn’t the fact that back then she wasn’t rich at the time and lived a poor life and she found her first pokemon being a trubbish and even though she looks elegant now she still has the same trubbish all this time since well. It was her first pokemon friend to be with
@@kasagrim7215 Yes exactly! It shows that no matter how she is now and presents herself, she hasn't forgotten where she came from and Garbordor is still her best friend!
@@kasagrim7215 also the reason she's so devoted to the chairman rose is bc he was the only one who thought she was worth something when nobody even cared for her existence. She worked so hard to prove her worth to him that she started to go a lil crazy. And she was still loyal to him till the end even when she knew his plans were horrible. She had so much talent and dedication but fate was cruel and she later on became a little crazy. Tragic. If u haven’t already watched the Twilight wings episode on RU-vid then you should deffo check it out.
Another sad thing about kieran, if you use ogerpon against him. His Ai will specifically target her and only her. He will feel so hurt and enraged he'll do anything to get her out of sight
@@ItzPaydayFellas If you want to know; Kieran originally thought that the Ogre was just as dangerous as the myth originally portrayed it, and was still obsessed enough to stalk the Ogre at her own home in the hopes of seeing it. That's another issue, Kieran is a genuine stalker, he literally admits to it, and his obsession with Ogerpon leads to him feeling possessive of something he doesn't even own. Kieran is a great character and a terrible person, who reflects the story of Kitikami's Toxic Trio. The only thing "sad" about him is how pathetic he seems when you first meet him.
@@anonymousapproximation8549 Only toxic person I saw was his bitch of a sister who thinks that just because she doesn't hit him, she isn't being mean.
Not really. At least in VGC, outside of Gens 4 and 5, Z just has basically *no* presence in the metagame, while 2 pops in and out of the meta regularly as a turbo bulky trick room setter.
@@EnderPrydePorygon Z is more of singles. It was really strong with Conversion Z in 7th gen and has always been on the edge of “One buff will make this thing one shoot whatever”
Ah like Ghetsis’ Hydreigon having max damage frustration(what he did to that super powerful dragon to make it hate him so much, yet also not kill him is beyond me)
Probably the same thing he did to N, lots of abuse and gaslighting, so the Hydreigon hates his guts but can’t allow itself to leave because it wouldn’t know what to do without him.
Not to mention Ghetsis' entire BW team is perfectly designed to counter N's, with his Hydreigon also being perfectly designed to solo N's entire team and counter its own weaknesses.
I think Kieran uses Porygon-Z because it kinda parallels him, starts out at this cute lil guy, gets stronger & then unleashes its true strength when it loses its marbles
Tbh, I love Hop from SwSh. What a lot of players don't realize because they're complaining to much is that Hop tries his best to step out of his brother's shadow and shows with his team and fights you so he can become stronger. And despite losing over and over, Hop still has a smile because he has determination. And eventually, he becomes a professor assistant to step out of his brother's shadow, become something Leon isn't.
I AGREE WITH YOU SO DAMN MUCH!!! Is it so scary that people who even played and passed swsh might not understand his story? Hop literally teaches young children that not everything can be achieved with one desire, sometimes life goes wrong. Is he going through a wonderful path with his ups and downs and is he HATED for some reason??? I'm just flipping through these comments in search of Hop support because, DAMN IT, MY FAVORITE RIVAL IS HOP AND I'M NOT ASHAMED HE'S THE BEST BOY!!!! I’m gonna cry again
I’m not sure if anyone has mentioned this but can we also give Silver a major shoutout for have a Golbat all throughout Johto and when he finally matures he has a Crobat which evolves through friendship showing how much he has grown as a human and as a Pokemon trainer. I love that storytelling and also Wally who ends up with a Mega Gallade in the end with an epic battle music
I love how Ghetsis's team is designed to hard counter N's, implying he had a backup plan if N rebelled, or that he was planning to 'dispose of' N once he's fulfilled his purpose.
Incredibly valid of her honestly. Though as an aside her Ace is Sylveon who requires affection to evolve indicating she spoils her Eevee rotten, which is backed up by absolutely all her team having both Baby Doll Eyes and Growl (aka they're not a battle team really, they're just her pets) XD Additionally given the variety of evolutions on the team one could argue that's representative of how much effort she'll go to to ensure her friends' happiness - a custom effort every time (one's even Leafeon so horror upon horrors that Egirl went out and actually touched grass XD)
@@FaisLittleWhiteRaven well I mean for that particular Pokémon it makes sense to get it to evolve into the fairy type it least know at least one fairy type move
@@FaisLittleWhiteRaven I mean as of gen 8 you don't need to go to the Mossy/Icy Rock for Leafeon and Glaceon they can just use stones (and there are no Evo Rocks in Galar or Paldea, Penny is from Galar)
In the final battle with Hop at Wyndon Stadium, his usage of Dubwool is a perfect display of how much he's grown and learned from his mistakes as a Trainer. As much as we all make fun of him complimenting your use of super effective attacks, we never realize that Hop is taking mental notes. By the time you face off with Hop at Wyndon, he has taught his Dubwool Zen Headbutt, a Psychic move super effective against Dubwool's biggest threat, being the Fighting type. So not only is Hop fully anticipating you using a super effective move on him-- he's counting on it.
Missed out on some epic Kieran lore. In TM, his ace was Poliwrath during his final battle, but come ID he trades it for politoed to set up for dragonite. But in the DLC epilogue, he brings Poliwrath back on his team, showing he never forgot about his old friend.
I always think about how Kieran initially replaced his Poliwrath for the competitively better Politoed in the BB League, before going back to using his Poliwrath in the DLC. Just thought that was interesting; the fact he once left behind his Poliwrath for its superior split evo just to get stronger is so neat. And sad. Neat and sad.
after mochi mayhem, there's league club dialogue from kieran that basically says both poli's are precious to him. i assume he always had them as a pair, but opted for wrath in TM because it was better in singles, then toed because it's better in doubles.
@@someoneweird4439 um NO. Did Hau catch a legendary? Did Hau have any character growth? Did Hau become the second Pokémon Professor in training from one of the rivals? Was Hau an important protagonist in the games? No, Hau is easily one of the worst characters in the games, he does so little for the story it’s not even funny. Hell LILLIE has more character growth than the actual Trainer who’s supposed to BE our rival. Hop is an amazing rival, he didn’t NEED a second game to somewhat flesh him out more, he didn’t NEED an extra story to be better he just IS a better rival than Hau
@@someoneweird4439 also! Hau was so unimportant in the game that he BARELY got any screen time in the Anime other than battling Ash, yes the same COULD be said for Hop, but Journeys was completely different than the rest of the seasons that focused on one Region, I’d bet if it was focused in the Galar Region that we’d see more Hop
Cynthia is a decent example too. Hers is somewhat of a lore team. Her ace is a Garchomp, which is tucked away in an obscure cave. Spiritomb is found in a ruin near Hearthome. Gastrodon’s forms relate to the Sinnoh myths and Mt Coronet. Lucario and Roserade are aces of previous in game bosses. Milotic is the ace of a previous Champion, and is once again exclusive to Mt Coronet.
I feel like Blue's Party being pretty much RGB's (missing just his starter) imply otherwise That and lots of smaller details from Yellow that are missing in Gen 2 and details just as small that were only in RGB but not Yellow being present (Like the presence of the old man in Cerulean from RBG who loves trading while the Bulbasaur girl is absent)
Kieran's Hydrapple has Tera Fighting which further shows how obsessed with winning he became not because it's a good Tera type for the Hydrapple, but because beneath the fist is a champion's belt.
@@Mr-Trox Just checked and saw Kieran's Hydrapple had Tera Blast, I'll give you that, good eye. Though it's still funny to think that the character had Fighting as the tera type seemingly for the belt rather then Steel that would cover not only it's x4 weakness to Ice, it would cover weaknesses to Flying, Bug, Poison, Dragon, and Fairy all as resistance (except poison which becomes an immunity).
I personally love when Pokemon do stuff like this Wally's Gardevoir/Gallade also falls into this. Both he and ralts start out weak and frail but by the end, they are stronger Nemona has a goodra, a pokemon who is friendly like her but also hates being alone. Nemona was also alone before she met the player as she never fit in (Kind of like Goodra as well, it's much more cuddly and friendly looking then most pseudos) and was so happy when she finally had a friend Lillie has a clefairy because it is useless just like her
I honestly love Hop's character development, it's just a satisfying story of him figuring out what he wants to be instead of just following in his brother's footsteps
Kieran's final team is like Hop's final team but cranked up to 11. You could definitely tell with both of them that you (the protagonist) were the one to make them into the "monsters" that they became.
Totally. Though somehow I felt worse for the AI. Arven has friends now, and a new lease on life, while the AI is going to be alone for the rest of their existence.
My favorite is in Colosseum, how do we know the player character Wes is both an ace trainer and a good guy? He's starters are Espeon and Umbreon, evolutions of a usually rare Pokémon and both evolve through friendship.
People who say hop is boring and just another overly friendly rival should’ve paid more attention to the story Dude is depressed as hell, just putting on a happy front to appear more like his much more successful brother
I always thought Kieran’s porygon Z represented his self-destructive behavior. Since it is very powerful indeed but its strategy is very reckless with hyper beam + life orb. As if showing Kieran was becoming more powerful but it was costing him his sanity.
Johto makes you cry from boredom!? Bruh johto is imo one of the most lively regions. Not necessarily the plot, but the details and culture are so incredible
This is honestly a reason why I enjoy friendship evolutions despite the tedious nature. Environmental storytelling. You can honestly tell if the people making the teams are either paying attention to the lore of the characters and Pokémon, like with Gladion and Carmine, or not paying attention, like Cyrus and one of the villains from Horizons.
That only really works with his Life Orb Porygon-Z. Flare Blitz is just the best physical fire type move. His Incineroar also has a Sitrus Berry to help offset it. People run Flare Blitz on Incineroar in VGC alongside Parting Shot, Fake Out and Knock Off. They gave him Darkest Lariat and Brick Break instead, presumably to be slightly nicer to more casual players while still being a threat if they tried to make it easier with screens/Aurora Veil.
Then you think you're slick sending in a Ghost Type just to get a Life Orb boosted Shadow Ball. The Hisuian Zorua you got for pre-ordering the DLC isn't even the perfect counter, as it'll just be slammed with a boosted Ice Beam or Thunderbolt.
Haven't seen it mentioned here yet- similarly to how Silver having his Golbat evolve into Crobat, Cyrus also evolves his Golbat into Crobat. I like this detail because the extra characterization he is given in Platinum shows him to be hypocritical, acknowledging in the Distortion World that he does experience emotions, but only chooses to dwell on those considered "negative." Ultimately shows he does care for his Pokémon, he just doesn't outright admit it. Some might say it's a sort of manipulation tactic but given how much the Crobat evolution is used as a storytelling device in this context(the aforementioned Silver) and the fact that Cyrus is a known hypocrite, I have my doubts on that. I think it makes him a bit more interesting that way
Bruh I cried so hard in Pokemon violet, over Arven and Penny, like it’s so sweet and made me cry so hard, I wasn’t expecting Pokemon to hit like that bro.
Here’s another short idea I guess lol Have you heard of the theory that Red’s team is actually the team from Yellow? You start off with Pikachu, get the three starters, find a sleeping Snorlax, and then grab a Lapras from Silph Co (Or an Eevee depending on which you’re going with lol)
His team fits perfectly into being your typical Yellow team. Pikachu, the starters, Snorlax and an Eeveelution. 5 of the 6 are given to you in Yellow, with Snorlax being a mandatory encounter. The only real argument that Yellow isn't the canon team is that Blue's is based off of his RBG team, not his Yellow one.
@@Mr-Trox "the only argument" mate, you have no bloody idea how wrong you are 1: light ball. kinda a meta thing, but if you transferred the pokemon yellow partner pikachu to a gen 2 game it'd be holding a light ball, but in gen 2 red's pikachu isn't holding a light ball, directly indicating it isn't a partner pikachu. 2: his team in the let's go games. pretty simply, his team in let's go implies very heavily he picked bulbasaur, and blue and green's teams support that since they have the other starters. 3: the timeline. so amongst the noticeable differences between red/blue and yellow, yellow also takes place 2 years later than them, with it's protagonist being 10 instead of 11, to better match the anime, however we know the red in gold/silver/crystal is 14, meaning he can't be from yellow since he'd only be 11. 4: the timeline …again. so not only does pokemon yellow take place two years after red/blue, but so do the let's go games, meaning they straight up de-canonised pokemon yellow. 5: masters ex. so the mobile gatcha game isn't canon, but those devs worked closely with game freak to keep it canon compliant, and masters ex makes it pretty clear that it's red wasn't from pokemon yellow, even giving explanations on how he has all 3 starters (iirc it was that he hatched them from eggs) 6: a standard red/blue team also looks like this. ok this is more of a counterargument on why it doesn't have to be yellow, than an argument on why it can't be like the rest, but aside from pikachu, the rest of his team is still made of stationary/gift pokemon, and it's not like he couldn't catch a pikachu or trade for the other starters. and 7, this one's not based on the lore but entirely meta reasons, but: pokemon didn't give red all 4 starters because he's from yellow, but because they don't want to confirm what starter he did pick, because the games are supposed to be the players personal journey, and nothing would be as impersonal than telling someone they played the non-canon game, or picked the non-canon starter, and if pokemon hadn't been so weird early on with its time line then there wouldn't be a way to tell what game red was from, but they were, and it's the one time we can say a pokemon game didn't happen.
Also, in the final battle with Hop he uses dubwool cuz maybe he realises that he doesnt need to use VERY STRONG POKEMON to win, he can use the ones he loves and it still is possible to win (✨the power of friendship✨)
