Straight Rail Shot Effects, and Shooting Past a Side Pocket 

Yep. See the last shot of the follow-up video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html

In 4:55 at this example can i use mass shot ?

DrDaveBilliards x

@@H_I_T That's basically what I demonstrate ... a swerve shot (which is slight masse).

Straight railed shot needs inside spin to stay along the rail.

Thanks. Be sure to check out the follow-up video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html

But always give top + side spin towards the rail with normal speed it will always go in.

I'm glad you liked it.

You're welcome, and thank you! Be sure to check out the follow-up video also: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html

The cue ball doesn't stay on the rail. It squirts away from the rail due to deflection, and then swerves back on line due to the spin. Dr Dave explains it in this very video at 4:39

Thanks. Inside is the trick, but you are right about there being more to know. Be sure to also check out the "follow-up" video with additional info and techniques here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html

It is in the follow-up video linked in the video description: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html You are correct. This is a useful technique.

Thanks. When they go low, I go Colorado High! :)

Curtis Petit See the follow-up video link in the video description above.

Michael Lucas I’m not sure who you mean by “you,” but it is certainly not “most people.”

please make a video without editing or cutscenes. a good 10 minute video shooting these type of shots without missing. then Ill believe you.

I think this is an example of knowledge that some people don't "acquire," even after playing for many years.

Thank you, and you're welcome. Be sure to also check out the follow-up video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html

Thanks. Be sure to check out the follow-up video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html

I'm glad to hear it, and I hope you enjoy your table. FYI, if you want to stream or download my instructional videos, you can do so here: drdavebilliards.com/stream_vimeo.html If you prefer physical DVDs, package deals are available here: drdavebilliards.com/

Id prefer dvd's I'm putting a table in my loft so I can watch the DVD and pause it and practice each shot... I can't wait!! They have a table at my job so I watch your RU-vid stuff and practice base off memory is there a book you have that explains all the terms?

Sounds like a smart idea. FYI, I have a free online glossary of all pool/billiards terms/phrases here: billiards.colostate.edu/glossary.html

One last question you had a video where you where using top right English to bank off the left rail into the right side pocket I thought I saved it but I didn't which video was that?

Sorry, but you need to be a little more specific. Where was the CB? (close to the same rail as the OB?, in the middle of the table?), where was the OB? (on the rail?, close to the side pocket?), was the english being used to help the bank of to get position on the next shot?

No

No bruv

You're welcome. Be sure to check out the follow-up video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html Enjoy!

Thanks!

You're welcome. I'm glad. Be sure to also check out the follow-up video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html Enjoy!

That's a good approach. See my "Straight Cushion-Frozen Shots and Techniques ... Follow Up" video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html

Jere616 Thanks. I’m glad you liked it.

Jere616 Be sure to check out the follow-up video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html

@@DrDaveBilliards Thank you. Will do

Thanks! I aim to swerve. :)

Lol

I'm glad you like my videos. Sorry, but I am not a cue stick charity organization.

@@DrDaveBilliards I did try, but thanks anyways

Lafaele Robertson Thanks. Be sure to also watch the follow-up video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DnmAwgv-yKY.html

The illustrations, articles, and videos here should help: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/throw/ billiards.colostate.edu/faq/throw/spin-transfer/

On this rail, low-left is the correct play. See the follow-up video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html

​@@DrDaveBilliards 👍

Agreed. Check out the follow-up video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html

That is a relief, because that's how I play these (usually with a touch of swerve to make a little upwards force on object ball and cb contact -I was told it minimises the deflection from the ob starting in contact with the rail). Especially on the tight tables where I am trying to tool some extra motion to get off the rail. I have been doing this after being told to but without real understanding. I love RU-vid and I especially love niche-experts like this. Thanks for the explanation and excellent slo-mo footage which gives a plonker like me a chance to see all the dynamics of the shot. I love how such a simple game holds such beautiful complexity... use this stick to hit this ball into those balls and put them into the third dimension. so simple you'd think it is easy. lol It also puts into perspective the observation made by a chap I play snooker with sometimes... 'snooker is a game that takes a great deal of skill even to play badly.'... I have so much to learn...

Thanks. Be sure to also check out the "follow-up" video with additional related info and techniques here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html

I like it. It is smooth, stays clean, doesn't scratch or ding, has the amount of CB deflection I prefer.

Racking the 9 on the spot is a common rules variation to make it more difficult to master the break. See the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/

Agreed. FYI, I demo this in the follow-up video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html

@@DrDaveBilliards oops, sorry, I didn't get that far ...thanks for teaching, you are great at it Doc!

@@leninmi7579 You're welcome ... and thank you! I aim to swerve. :)

@@DrDaveBilliards little play on words? 😁, Yw

I have seen some decent players do this, but it is certainly not recommended.

Exactly. Also, the swerve approach doesn't work very well for faster-speed shots.

I already have some online masse shot videos here: billiards.colostate.edu/threads/masse.html and I have lots more on Disc V of the Video Encyclopedia of Pool Shots (VEPS): drdavebilliards.com/veps/disc_V.html and Disc II of How to Aim Pool Shots (HAPS): drdavebilliards.com/aiming/disc_II.html

Hope the point doesn't stick out or shoot the OB slightly into or away from the rail so it clears the point but still goes in the corner.

Nice!

Richard Nicholas Agreed, but good players are prepared for all types of shots, even the ones that come up rarely.

@@DrDaveBilliards That's true. Thanks for all the great content!

@@richardnicholas2957 You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)

xenomonk1 Yes. The table in all of my new videos is a 9’ Olhaussen, previously owned by the late, great Robert Byrne.

@@DrDaveBilliards What a treasure!

You’re welcome. I aim to swerve. :)

steve vranas It’s a 9’ Olhaussen that was previously owned by the late, great Robert Byrne.

@@DrDaveBilliards How does is stack up to a Diamond table or a Brunswick table ? From what I've seen in pro events, Diamond tables are the best out there.

Michael Trumph All tables can have different pocket geometry and can play a little differently, even tables from the same manufacturer, so it is important to be able to adjust to any table.

Check out the "follow-up" video with additional info and techniques here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html Is that what you have in mind?

CB deflection (the net effects of squirt and swerve) requires aim compensation that varies with the cue, shot distance, shot speed, cue elevation, and conditions. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/FAQ/sidespin/aim/compensation/

"Self-adhesive hole reinforcement labels" used for spotting ball positions for the Billiard University Playing-Ability Exams: billiarduniversity.org/exams.html

Josef Santolaja Check out my follow-up video, where I cover this approach: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html

MrRex1949 Thanks. FYI, the english technique is shown in the follow-up video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html

That’s why we practice … to make the many difficult things in pool easier.

It is less likely that both the white and a color would end up frozen to a cushion like this in snooker, and the flat cushion surface surface doesn't push the CB away, but the technique can be used to shoot past a middle (especially if the cushions aren't perfectly aligned, or if a rolling ball tends to roll toward the middle pocket as it goes by).

@@DrDaveBilliards I see but I'm quite worry with the nap effect or when I'm shooting for the middle pocket on a half ball or more cuts

I think the follow-up video shows the most ideal way for the draw shot. Check it out: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html For other types of rail shots, see: billiards.colostate.edu/threads/rail_cut_shots.html

Mahdee : Use left English draw. That will make your ball in. Allowing your ball to come down to your next ball to shoot.

Marvin St John Did you see the follow-up video yet? It s linked in the video description. After watching both, let me know what you think is missing.

@@DrDaveBilliards First off thank you for even paying attention to the comment much less to reply, also know that I am a proud owner of your earlier dvd's. I mention that to let you know that i'm a fan and not just some random internet keyboard worrier. Let's begin, I will come up with way to send you a video of a shot i do but until then would like to ask two questions. (1) what is the reaction if "right" was to be used on your example? and (2) what is the reaction when not on the rail with the CB? Basically part of my curiosity was from not seeing the OB travel straight down the rail as have been witnessed

@@400fps Right would be a poor choice in this situation. The CB would tend to swerve away from the rail, and the right would throw the CB into the CB, both of which are bad. When the CB is not on the rail, the reaction depends on whether you hit the ball or cushion first. Rail cut shots are covered in detail, with numerous videos, here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/rail-cut/

DrDaveBilliards I would love to get into a discussion with you on this and other topic as I have always favored your detailed engineering approach. Part of my problem has been trying to be too robotic or scientific and not allowing time to “feel” certain shots or end find my true comfort playing style. I always try to teach “finding yourself” but my brain won’t allow me to do this, chronic over thinker here

I have noticed a non-straight follow-through with power shots in some of my other recent videos, but I just watched this entire video, and the strokes look pretty straight to me. I wonder if the camera angle is causing a slight illusion. I use a pendulum stroke, with my elbow still, so the butt of the cue goes up and the tip goes down on the back stroke, and the butt comes up and the tip go down during the follow through. With the camera at an angle, this up/down motion might be perceived as left/right motion, but I think the strokes in this video are fairly straight. Watch again and let me know what you think.

It's not about how straight your stroke is it's about how good you get with what you got.

Play pool, he does.

PhD. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/dr-dave

Agreed. Check out this video featuring some of the best slow-motion stuff available: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NWkX9JCWCK0.html Enjoy!

Michael Lucas I already have a bunch of info and videos dealing with both masse and the 9-ball break here: billiards.colostate.edu/threads/masse.html#technique and here: billiards.colostate.edu/threads/break.html#9-ball Check them out.

I also dislike playing on really tight tables. It is bad for confidence ... and it isn't as fun (to play or watch).

I like going from my Diamond to those other "easy" tables. ;)

Seamus McFadden what I dislike about Diamond table is you can’t make the severe angle shots where you spin the ball in, ball is 5” from back rail in middle and cue ball center of table you can’t cut it in with massive spin and go four rails for position. Because the ledge is so deep. ‘‘This is why I say they are no fun to play on”. You can’t jam the ball 100 mph as well as in a Gold Crown. Sometimes it’s fun just to wack them full speed. I can pocket balls on a diamond but I have to use less spin and hit it slower than I’ve ever hit before, it’s just not fun.

@@charlieb308 Lots of people that come over struggle a little at first. Home court advantage! Lol

Correct, especially for the shot to get past the side pocket. But this won't work very well for fast-speed straight rail shots, where the swerve doesn't have time or distance to take.

Right translates better to other cultures that don't say "inside and outside", like those of us from a snooker background.

In this specific example, it was right-low.

On the last shot in the video, bottom-right english is used. For more examples of how rail-side english is used on shots like these, see my follow-up video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html

See the follow-up video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html

I disagree. I think the demonstration clearly delivered the messages I was trying to get across, even if the speeds might have been different, and even if the cloth is not perfect.

@@DrDaveBilliards hi, if I had a product that you were trying to sell , is it fair to hit your product 4 times as hard as I hit mine and breaking yours in an effort to show mine is more robust. The test was not a fair one. A ball hit gently has a much greater chance to go in than one struck hard. The hard shot you played had no way of getting shape on the next ball, it was clearly hit overly hard to miss. Increasing the force aplied to one product 4 fold is not fair on the other. Explaining the science of how a ball moves off cussions and bounce , you know more about it than I do , I learned from it, I thank you for that . The high and low strike on the cue ball comparison can be a fair one only if they are both hit with the intention of getting possition on the next ball. This shot would not be played hard if trying to get position on the next ball, it was hit to miss and look messy, not a fair comparison. Think on it a while, you know your game realy well, explaining it is a whole new ball game. You helped me with my game. Let me help you with how to explain it. I must admit, its not easy to demonstrate the science behind your lesson. I think it's more of a lesson of odds , maybe that should be the emphasis on this one. You may still get it , but your chances increase if you strike level avoiding the hop , especially if you must hit hard.

Michael Lucas You must not have seen the follow-up video yet: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PceeYGubVIA.html