Dave (the guy who put this kit together years ago) is a great guy and retired now. This kit was put together very well with some of the best instructions I have ever seen for anything. I bought this kit back then and still have it running today, (55,000 miles on it). But it should not have been used with the stock exhaust, and that is why their dyno numbers are not breaking 300hp. It needed a free flowing dual exhaust for another 30-40hp, and a lot cooler engine compartment. I am between 330 and 350hp with mine depending on the air temperature between like 35 deg F. and 85 deg. (really notice that with a super charged engine). I do have the smallest pulley and the water to air inter cooler. He used the best stuff for the kit. Quality business man. Been years since I talked with him, the last time telling me he retired. I hope he is doing well.
@@CommanderbarronI just bought a Bone stock 08 V6. Where’d you get your kit? I also can’t find the kit that’s in this video. I neeeed some extra power from this old dog.
@@crisper1614 The trap I waled into is, it is a V-6 with out a good rear end or exhaust. You will get over 300 hp, and the stock exhaust will really heat up the engine. I have about 20 grand into my car now, (totally restored), and it is a nice 340hp car. But I am sure things like resale would make the V-8 more attractive with much less work and cost.
@@EarthSurferUSA all very true. I’m not opposed to doing a coyote swap one day. So I’ll mostly think about lesser bolt on mods. Just try and get a bit of extra snot out of the old girl. A little tune. Intake. Idk. A few others. What have you done?
build what you love and have, thats what makes your car "your car" because you have pride in what you managed to make out of stock, There will always be something faster or better then what you own kids stop crapping on other people, shut up and build, put it on the line and race in your own class.
Lol this kit is close to 5 grand. The intercoolled version is close to 6. I have a v6 and I love it to death, I won't be supercharging it at all, cold air intake yes. Exhaust yes. You dont need a super charger. I wanted one and thought about it. You can buy an older gt for the price of a v6 and super charger. Stay reppin the v6 haha:)
Nice video. As a very happy X-Charger owner for more than a year, I can verify the positive comments made regarding ease of install, the quality of the manual, and the wonderful improvemment it makes to the 4.0 Mustang.
Nice segment. Really showed the ease of install and positive effect on the 4.0 well. I've had a X-Charger on my car since the were released (S/N 004...) Really happy with it, and the support from Dave Vanek and Doug at Bamachips is world class.
Yep, first they say over 100 HP, actual RWHP was 86????, then guy says 125 extra HP, come on, all that for.....how much??? $6000????, buy used supergharger, built the box/plenum, go to junkyard, but extra pulley or two?? $10.00, you make same , or even more HP, if you port supercharger a bit, and spend about $500 top, hellooooouuuuuu....=))
And add extra oilcooler from ebay, $80.00, hellou!!!!! CAI takes are $60.00 also, and yep, there you have it=))By the way, I am just installing 3.73 rear, myself, you can buy a used one from ebay about $100,.....of course, you have to know, what u r doing=))
@@newworlddisorder152 to be fair, the V6 will have better low end performance due to the roots style supercharger. Also the v6 is lighter. Would it beat a GT? Probably. Is it worth it? Probably not.
Yes, 15-18% loss. When you measure the flywheel HP compared to RWHP. However what is shown is a dyno chart listing stock V6 RWHP (186) to X-Charged RWHP (271). Meaning that the power gain is an increase of just under 100 RWHP. It is an 85 RWHP increase. Still a big increase for a 3.0 pully putting out 6-7psi of boost. I'm doing the same thing to my Mustang this winter most likely. Will probably also snag the 8.8 rear while I'm at it.
I wish they would have made a kit for the 3.7 I rather have the whine then the irritating sounds my procharger makes don’t get me wrong I love the power it’s making but sc sound much better
@josecrosscountry Your absolutely right. Makes alot more sense to me also, and the V6 on the highway will be alot better on gas if you can keep out of the throttle that is...
I have quite a bit planned for it...I'm thinking about going to Livernoise and have them build me a Supercharger block and use their racing internals...(stage 2 heads...Stage three is not streetable) and then go to Kenny bell and take a look at their 2.8L mammoth, replace the transmission with a TR6060 six speed. (the stock transi is strong enough...I just want six speeds.) and then the usual running gear replacements. No exterior mods. I like a 600+ Hp Sleeper ^^
@JPMRIR2 you could do that but the stock rear axle wasnt built for that much hp, so you run the risk of damaging/breaking it. as far as gears go its just different ratios to fit the increase in torque better
EGR improves emissions and fuel economy when the engine is at partial throttle, and the system shuts off completely at WOT. So it really doesn't make sense to get rid of it when it improves fuel economy under normal driving without sacrificing any power at WOT.
Pretty good video, needs to cut down on the exaggeration some. It said it'll get 340hp when it only made 270. And don't say it made decent power to begin with, I drive an 06 V6 and I know that's not true lol. And to the people saying 270 isn't a V8 killer... This is bone stock with the supercharger. Anyone that supercharges will also get a full exhaust system with LT headers, dual exhaust, and also upgrade the TB to a 70mm, and I would hope a custom dyno tune and not some mail order tune. With all that and a limited slip differential and 3.73 gears, and some suspension stuff like rear lca's, yes, this car is a well over 300hp V8 killer.
Matt Sadagursky Well, considering that 340bhp is roughly 270-290rwhp I'd have to say they were spot on. Being a car guy you shouldn't have to be told which hp they mean when there is a dyno sheet and you can do rough calculations. Should they have specified? Sure, but it's much easier to sell a $3000+ kit to someone for a style of car that isn't modded much when you just say "we are making 340hp" vs "we will be making 340bhp, which would then translate to 270-290hp to the rear wheels with the power conversion losing power through the drivetrain"
mine #43 has been on since November. I can beat many GT's,not all but many. The instal took a couple days because I did it alone in a cold garage.The thing fired righ up first turn of the key. No prior mods,very complete kit,witht he tune.On street tires I turn reguarly low 14's and even a 13.889. Going for 13's and 100 mph before the season ends.New drag radials should make it happen,,check out my post. That was first time out
I haven't checked but the V6 car has a lower insurance price i think. Alot of people drive what they buy but some of us like to modify. I personally like to beat cars that should be faster than mine. The first drag strip i raced on was Detroit dragway in 63. Lets see if anybody knows what "X Stock" is.
@skl1cent honestly your best bet will be to buy the entire rearend off of the same body style gt because they have the stronger 8.8 while the v6 had the 7.5 also to make things cheaper try to find it with 3.73 rearend gears.
A shame it didn't come from the factory this way LOL! My '05 GT/auto dynoed at 282rwhp with just a CAI/tune - left the rest stock. I'm happy until the funds come around for a Roush Stage 3 powertrain upgrade while maintaining stock appearance.
Read recently (RU-vid vid too) where a guy installed eco boost turbos on his '15 3.7 - impressive results. My car isn't going anywhere as I'm quite happy with it - still have't turned 24k miles on the odo.
nice the transmission will probably be the hardest of those mods because the speedometer will need to be modified for 6 speeds. the supercharger can i think be mounted on the stock block with a manifold adapter you can probably put on a M90 stage VI... i dont think you can pull of the sleeper look with a new mustang. its too good lookin of a car.
its not over 100 horsepower? can they count? it went from 186 to 271. thats just ABOUT 100 horsepower. why do they keep saying 140 horsepower gains? and i started laughing when they said it would have 340 horsepower. lmao
@ridemx323 great point. the v6 does have a lot of history and aftermarket support. I think the new v6 stang is impressive as well. by the way, i dont know of any v6 camaro outrunning the mustang gt
What do you have to do to the rear? would you recommend buying a new GT axel? or just upgrading parts inside the rear axel? I know might be odvious questions but Its new to me lol I just got a v6 stang 2 weeks ago :)
idk a new v6 goes for $20,995 while a gt goes for $27,995 so thats a $7,000 difference add the x-charger ($4,500) and the rear end ($1,000) and now you have a car that is about $26,495 so its still cheaper than the gt, weighs less, less insurance, and has about the same power as the gt. i think its a good deal for the ppl who have a v6 and just want a bit more power.
Supercharger is okay. Only get a supercharger because it's easy to install as compared to a turbo kit. Turbo is faster but the extra tubing can be a pain if you don't know what you're doing.
yes the gt might have 5hp moor know but there is still the stock exhaust on this car chang that out to a high flow exhaust you will be well about that 5 moor hp that gt has
132 pounds lighter based upon specs from Motor Trend. And that 5 hp higher is with the factory tune. With a tune I'm pretty sure I could hit 300 rwhp easy.
hi, i hav a 05 v6 stang and itz automatic i waz wonderin is there any way i could install Xcharger in an automatic stang and if so how much would it cost?? plz help....!
Is this X-Charger 50 State Street Legal for the 2005-2014 V6 Mustangs? I live in California and it has to have an EO# and C.A.R.B. Certified in order to install on a stock V6 engine. Also, will it work for both Manual and Automatic Trans? Thanks and God Bless! BTW!...How would you compare it to the V6 Mustang Supercharger Kit from Pro-Charger?
thats an increase of 100 brake horse power whic is measure at the fly wheel. the 270 your see is wheel horsepower. which can be 15 to 25% less than BHP and dyno jets measure in rwhp
your not getting the gt suspension and being lighter is nice but its only about 100-200 pound lighter so not much of a difference that only going to be 1-2 tenths of a second faster in the quarter mile if its the same power. i had a 2001 v6 and now i have a 2002 gt and the weight difference is 100 pounds and if you get a convertible then add another 100 pounds, with th gt you get parts that can handle more power without breaking and you get better suspension
The 2005-2009 4.6 GT made 300hp stock. This kit with dual exhaust does make about 340. The stock engine made 210 claimed. A supercharger usually adds about 60% more power, (up to 10psi boost), and still be able to run on 93 octane pump gas.
@josecrosscountry youll find V6s for 8-12k now with decent mileage, you wont ever find a GT for under 17k at the lowest with ridiculous miles lol, V6 V8 its all preference mate
wow easy install but u deffinatly wont beat out any gt mustang on the road..maby bone stock ya but ide like to see u take a cobra or gt with a kenne bell sor whipple upercharger
Now I'm no mathamagician. However stock reading on the dyno of 186hp, X-charger to 271hp. Exactly how is that an increase of OVER 100hp? :D But besides that, very informative bits about the X-Charger. Nice to see the installation is actually as easy as advertised.
Dyno numbers across several random dynos will not show the accuracy of the real power. That is because there really is no calibration method for them, and they are as accurate as designed and set up/operated. There are accurate dyno's out there though. I have one. But I used a freshly broken new engine, that has a owners manual that states the peak power an RPM. So I got it running as good as I can, and adjusted the result (Called the "efficiency loss factor" on mine), until my dyno was reading what the manual says. 2.8hp. (small 2-stroke race engines on a Land and Sea water brake engine dyno) :)
MrTyler8877 they upgraded the rear end to an 8.8 which is a pretty stout rear end on its own, but most likely it was to house the 3.73 gears to put the torque down with minimal stress on the rear end. the stock rear end gears in the s197 are pretty tall. you could run this kit on the stock car it just wouldn't have the quicker take off of the 3.73 gears.
A corrected quote from you: "the hell r u talking about!!" Needless to say, for now its stock...and no I'm and engineer...if that explains anything. Lumina is a good car....does it have the 3800 or the iron duke?
Why in the hell would I want to pay over 6000 to add just 100hp and that's not even the tune and other supporting mode to make sure you don't blow it up. Could just as soon spend around 700 to get similar results from a turbo
+Freddy Munoz depends on what you want. you can buy eBay turbo kit for around 700 maybe 1000. will it work? don't know Ive seen videos on RU-vid of eBay turbos and they seem to be fine. but that's also just street racing. obviously if your going to go all out you'll want to build it right with the expensive turbos. but also if you going to really race you're not that worried about price either.
+the stig mach 1 never I say never put an want turbo on your car! It is a terrible idea turbos cost 5-6k for a reason they have spent countless hours designing and making sure they don't blow your engine. The wavy turbos do none of that
Awesome to see that the X-Charger is getting out and about now. Had mine on for a while now.. what 4... 5 months. I Love It! Can't wait for the intercooler to come out for it lol. Randys06v6
I emailed the xcharger company with the same question and they replied " we do not have any plans for a 3.7l xcharger. That terminated my whole day day dude
185 Stock RWHP 271 after Super Charger, he said 340 HP... Crush a Mustan GT? My 2008 GT was 302 HP Stock I added everything but a Super Charger and I am 374 RWHP. I got 19 miles per gallon vs a V6 at 21... wow!! I am adding a Super Charger next year. I will be around 500 HP.
wheres the dual exhaust and headers? put those and a tune up and you could kill a GT....for 4-7 grand on top of the V6 retail, you might as well buy a 5.0L crate engine from roush
