There are so many closed minded comments about teachers having it easy, as they have long holidays and don't work as hard as other professions. I worked as a mechanic for several years and completely changed career due to wanting to work abroad. After getting my degree I became a teacher. Mechanics was a physically demanding job, however I always had energy to do stuff in the evening and on the weekends, because it was not stressful. Dealing with the levels of stress you can face in a school is unimaginable when you don't do it yourself. I would not be doing what I am doing if I was not planning to take a post abroad in the next couple of years.
Teaching in the uk is horrific. You are assessed using arbitrary methods which change second to second, and you are only ever one observation/complaint away from losing your job. Newbies wanting to try it- don’t. It’ll be the worst mistake you ever make.
I was assessed annually in my job too, and would have been sacked if not completing my performance contract. Why do teachers think they are unique, they really aren’t, they need to grow up
I qualified and realised it’s not what I want to do. Besides all this, there’s so much toxicity amongst staff etc. the constant feeling of being scrutinised by other teachers etc. it chips away at your self esteem. Not all schools are toxic. But if you end up stuck in one, it can truly be a miserable experience.
@@niamcd6604 I think you need to reread the original post and my comment. I didn't say that teachers don't have any other skills. I simple asked what job is the person doing now.
About 40 percent of the teachers i knew 10 years ago have quit sadly. It's too stressful for the money, it's not worth it. It either needs to pay more, or be less stressful. My wife got beat up and spat on my student many times, it truly is a terrible job.
Today I left at 9:20 am because of the level of verbal harassment from the kids, along with them throwing objects at me. Mind you, I have ten years of experience in education and fifteen years in mental health care. I need money and I am in debt. But today the abuse just hit harder. I was in a mainstream school. It's years that I don't work anymore in mental health and PRUs. Nobody should put with this. And boards are busy trying to get as much as possible out funds while investing as little as possible in staff and resources
This lady is speaking the truth. My daughter is a primary school teacher. She plans to quit, she loves teaching kids but says the demands from the headteachers are unbearable.
@@albertoginelsalvador2172 why would a country that tops the charts in every conceivable area change their way? From the Beatles to the Internet, thank the good people of the UK
Don't ever be a teacher. You don't even need an accusation or a criminal record. I have never had either. Suspicion and gossip will ruin your life. It has mine.
As a retired LEO who worked the numerous security jobs in Middle and high schools, there is no way in hell that I would be able to put up with the crap that I saw the teachers having to endure. Much respect.
The kids run the schools now, I dont expect the cane brought back, but there is no boundaries now, if they are expelled they are back the week after. Any detention, you have to inform the parents. If they Suspended they are back the day after...My wife is a teacher, some parents are worse than the kids, thick as whale sperm, so how are the kids going to progress in life. It also does not help when you have headmasters getting rid of teachers for no reason so he can get men in and not have women, yes a gay headmaster in my wifes previous school. A truly Awful man. The schools are under horrendous pressure, a lot are off with depression, stress, blood pressure issues. Violence and assault is common in inner town and city schools. After 10 years teachers are burnt out mentally. This is successive governments having brain farts over education. It should be ran by teachers/headmasters not MPs ffs.
Reading some of the comments on here about teachers is not surprising. It should be mandatory for every adult in the UK to teach for a couple of months to experience what it is like. I can't help but think that because people have been through the education system as a student they believe they have an awareness of what it's like to be a teacher. I completed my PGCE a few years ago, and even if they bumped up the salary I would rather be in a call centre or stacking shelves than go back to teaching in the UK. Also the idea that teachers have no idea what it's like in the real world is absolute nonsense. The majority of teachers leave after 5 years, so unless every single one of those people spend the rest of their life on the dole, most go into different industries. The sad irony is that as long as the teacher bashing continues, the turn over is just going to continue to get higher. Many people with young children are going to have their child taught by people who have absolutely no idea what their child's name is let alone their their ability.
Well said. It is one third who leave within five years but this figure will rise rapidly in the next few years. The system is toxic with bullying rife. Everyone does think they are an expert just because they have been to school. Ironic that many of those who are so critical of teachers will not have had the best attitude at school themselves, although it is not surprising. There has been a collapse in parenting in the UK which is guaranteed to worsen, not least of all because no-one recognises the problem. You cannot solve something you don't even think is an issue. The culture in Britain is rotten and many adults simply no longer grow up, which is a huge part of why there is a lack of support for teachers.
They’re called psychopaths. Literally the clinical terminology. And there are far too many in teaching. The way teaching is structured allows for psychopaths to run riot
I had to take a low paid job in a school after my business got attacked online and destroyed, so I know that teachers are stressed. They need to stop all these silly checks and just let teachers teach. I complained to one teacher because he was bullying my daughter and I told him he was stressing her out. He said, "I AM STRESSED OUT, I HAVE TO TEACH 30+ CHILDREN!" Stressed out teachers cause anxiety for poor little children. This needs to stop now! We are a family Home Education Success Story which the UK likes to sweep under the rug. I plan to give that rug a good shake! I cannot stand Academic Elite Bullies who are not team players and do not know what a child is!
Here in the USA… a teacher crisis. Underpaid; Babysitters now (yes… even in high school); zero respect for teachers. The dumbing of America. We are doomed.
This doesn’t surprise me. But it has to be said, a lot of the problem starts with the teaching profession itself. They have championed all the ‘trendy’ notions that have come along over the years and have gladly absorbed the ‘woke’ philosophies that have been presented to them, and now the chickens have come come home to roost! To get out of this downward spiral would be very painful indeed and require radical surgery the like of which the teaching profession themselves would probably not be able to stomach. Headteachers too have been sacking good teachers for speaking the truth about gender and other realities, so I am not surprised at all that recruiting teachers is getting harder.
Can you explain more detail what you mean? What trendy notions exactly have lead to the downfall in behaviour standards do you believe? I don’t much of a link tbh
Same as the NHS. My Mrs works for them and she says loads are off on sick loads have already left and loads plan on leaving as soon as they have another job lined up.
It is the same in retail although it has been like that for ages. Since the pandemic many have quit their retail careers for good as they are tired of the complete lack of respect from the public and the powers that be that don't give a crap about their wellbeing, but still expect them to go above and beyond whilst getting nothing in return for their hard work.
Gone. Quit in January. Over worked, under valued, stealth taxed if you want a holiday abroad. Nah, no more. I'm going to holiday on the cheap like ordinary people.
teaching is hard it's a mind slog and you the point about society not respecting teachers, yes it's true but also (some) * parents are more feckless-having a child is a big deal-you cannot expect to do nothing in giving wisdom to a child and then think school will do the rest.
Problem is most of the teachers are young and just out of universities were the woke brigade come from and get a shock when you have to do 8,10,12hrs work aday get in the real world instead of your pampered bubble. Think your self lucky you get 13 weeks off a year holiday some of us don’t get 13 days off.
Teaching during the pandemic was the worst thing ever. Worked more than ever. Supporting children and parents, hearing from children that they were done with their parents as teachers.
I am going back abroad to teach, I left in 2012 and didn't like the direction it was going in... couldn't quite believe how it had "developed" in 2019 (just before Covid) and then after Covid it has become a wasteland.. even in private schools it seems.
Omg get real , in my day we had proper teachers, didn't suffer trouble markers or disruptive kids !! Teach don't Indoctrinate!! Plus stress !! Really !!!!!! You don't have lives in your hands , not a surgeon or soldier ! Get a grip and live in the real world .
Boo hoo, most people face stress in their jobs, why do they think they're special? They think they work harder than everyone else when the truth is they don't, compared to many they have it easy, a guaranteed job for life, and a gold plated pension at the end, both things that those in the private sector will never have. If they think they're stressed working in the public sector they're going have a bloody shock if they move into the private sector, where there's no such thing as a job for life or gold plated pension, and people are held accountable and work even longer hours.
@@unusedsub3003 I like my job thanks and have no problem working hard or long hours, and I'm not the one complaining about how hard done by I am, I was just pointing out the harsh realities that teachers and other public servants don't grasp. It seems teachers like other professions such as nursing, that those who enter it have unrealistic expectations, feelings of entitlement and don't want the job but the status and security their professions offer them. As for unions they're only there to feather the nest of the union bosses they're a big con, and work against the best interests of those they represent and the economy.
@@sammim7657 Chances are that teacher and nurses have jobs that are more important than yours. Saving lives, teaching people to read and write etc. However, instead of inflicting the hell neoliberalism upon them, I would like it if everybody had job security, pension and more holidays. Not everybody wants to work long hours or slog their guts out every day. I don't, for example. I prefer to have time and energy for hobbies and my pets. As for Unions, they're great. The UK has become a much worse place to work in since they have vanished. My Dad told me how great it used to be. None of this Amazon Warehouse bollocks, workers had the power.
@@unusedsub3003 You patronising arrogant man, you don't know what I do, my contribution to society is every bit as important as theirs, as is everyone's. The pompous arrogance you have displayed sums up a public sector attitude ,and all that is wrong with it and most of them in it. It's a good job there are people who work hard and go the extra mile, unlike those who are more concerned with getting as much as they can for doing as little as they can, but who still want to reap the benefits of those who go all out and not just take. Without hard working private sector there would be NO public sector as it's the private sector that fund for the lazy public sector. I'm pleased you want to spend time with your pets, bully for you. I don't always want to work long hours but sometimes you have to it's called team work, instead of the me, me, me attitude of those who feel their entitled. I work hard so I can afford to retire early as I'm having to pay for 3 pensions, (state, personal and the ungrateful money grabbing public sector). It's funny workers have more rights since the demise of the unions.
Less indoctrinated kids hopefully, just shows the teachers who are stressed and gonna leave their not fit for it. And why within 5 years, if your that stressed why not now. “We’ve gone through the pandemic” 😂 you’ve been off for not of it and being paid 😂
From a cursory glance at your comment, there’s at least 15 grammar and punctuation errors @LeeRuffle . Whilst this is a cheap shot, it does prompt the thinking that you probably don’t know as much about teaching and education as you think you do. Whilst the video and generalised sentiment of ‘stressed teachers want to quit’ doesn’t correctly represent the issues teachers are attempting to raise, your comment appears to be uninformed and baseless. If you were to look at the curriculum and teaching policy with the UK, requirements of teaching roles and first hand accounts of people within those roles, you might actually have some understanding of the predicament teachers are facing.
@@AJT86Not really. They still get paid at the end of the week. The teachers who teach set 1 and 2 have it easy because those kids are usually well behaved. If you teach the sets that are lower, you'll have misbehaving kids, so you got to work harder.
Let’s see how long they last in the big wide world. Asked what she does on a normal Day and I don’t understand the answer. My sister is a head teacher, don’t get me wrong she works very hard but this woman is on a different planet. She isn’t creating any leaders.
If this is true then its a blessing in disguised just employ ex service men & women, bring back discipline, rid this country of identity schooling last but most important remove the unions.
@@jamiemohan2049 I'm not sure your right, discipline is just boundaries that have consequences if you break them even if that means removing them from the classroom so other kids can still get an educational. the parents either work with teachers or they deal with their own children in their own time & not the schools.
So she's come out of uni with about £70k of debt, gone through teacher training, had 2 years covid holiday, and now found what it's like to work. How is she going to pay off a mortgage and pay into a private pension?
Why do people think that covid was a holiday? Teachers worked the longest hours they ever have during the pandemic; planning, marking, delivering online lessons, taking and monitoring attendance for all these online lessons, going physically into school on a rota to support the vulnerable and key worker children, attending child protection meetings and doing regular home visits to SEN children or children on child protection plans. Go and do a week in a school, and then you can tell me how little effort teachers make. I bet you wouldn’t even last a week haha
If you " can't" - teach.....a profession rapidly filling up with rabid left wingers, desperately trying to impart their political views upon impressionable minds for the most part. Every wonderful teacher whom my children have loved, or held in high esteem, (and whom the parents have too) has been forced out.
@@pdizzle7111 I do know what I'm talking about as I have a brother that's a teacher he went in to he job knowing what the job is about and that's that I went in to my job knowing what I had to do that's what I chose. people just need to stop crying about everything and get on with it
@@onemanwithGodbegins No you don't. I suspect your brother is a sad character who'll put up with anything. I speak to a lot of teachers and they are all stressed out if their heads with the job. I don't think any of them really knew what they were getting in to.
Not wanting to work has nothing to do with it. It’s about being unable to do the work to an unattainably high standard until things like pay and welfare standards are changed.
Poor girl I think she need to go lay down, cause isn’t it right that teachers didn’t do anything for over a year, parents were teaching their children, making on average 35,000 decisions a day, looking after their home environment, possibly going to work too. In my day teachers taught not now where teachers are passing on their lefty views 😡😡
What a wonderful headline,the majority of teachers are very strange people,flouncy weirdo people that have no life experience at all, good riddance,the kids might be saved yet🤟
Teachers in the UK are pretty abysmal in general. In spite of the huge resources available, English kids are just about the least literate and numerate among the world's leading economies. Having said that, there are some brilliant and inspiring teachers. The problem in the past ( whether or not that's applicable now I don't know) is that teachers couldn't be sacked no matter how incompetent.
Could not be more wrong but OK mate. I just hope the teachers and prospective teachers see this and make the decision to do something else If they gonna be called lazy by people who don't know how the job is then why bother with all the stress and hassle? Especially science teachers comp science maths etc
The reasons are numerous and here are a few. Teaching is now dominated by females who can’t discipline children effectively. Teachers aren’t allowed to punish children at all but make excuses for them. Parents don’t discipline their children properly either and seem to take the child’s side. Finally, education isn’t valued anymore because teachers aren’t qualified in the same way as they used to be hence are not passionate and knowledgeable in their chosen subject. I could carry on but l won’t bore the reader!
Poor behaviour is endemic in many schools and is often not tackled properly. Lack of support, low pay relative to the hours worked, poor behaviour, planning in own time, box ticking and lack of respect from society are all drivers for the recruitment and retention problem. It is not going to improve any time soon.
The problem is the parents. They don't discipline their badly behaved kids. Then when the kids are held accountable in schools the parents become disrespectful towards teachers. You can't teach badly behaved kids. It is a waste of time and energy.
Please don't link gender to lack of discipline or its offensive. Being a female doesn't mean that you can't discipline students. I do just fine with this.
Teaching's hard. So are most jobs. It also has huge rewards, real perks in terms of holidays and lots more besides. Oh, and just so you're aware, I'm a full time state school secondary teacher and have been for 20 years. Don't believe all you read.
She pretty just describe what it like to run a small business . You have go to builder yard or wholesale nusery at 7 or half 6 . You get job at 8 or 7.30 you finish at 4 but some time 6 . Answers text fix broken talls and stock on supply . Most small business do that with out sick pay pension or holiday pay. I get texts from client at 10 o'clock at night telling me out of 100 plants I planted one of them has be dug by fox or most likely there dog . Do I complain no i get there 7 am free of charge put plant back in .
But you don't have to suffer the rudeness and abuse a teacher does just by doing the day-to-day job. You would refuse a client under those circumstances, something a teacher cannot do. When on Saturdays I go into town into the Post Office, bank, Town Hall, doctor's surgery there are notices displayed on how they won't tolerate abuse. Where are these notices in schools? Problems which in the 1950s were dealt with by teachers and families are now delegated to police.
No, it's not the same. I was a teacher and I had burn out. I've since retrained and done other jobs including self employment. The stress and workload of teaching is incomparable, but can probably only be understood if you go and work as a teacher for a few months. I actually wish that was compulsory for people to understand the job.
And how do you think you would get on with all of that if you also had 33 kids following you about, screaming at/trying to attack each other, and you had to keep them all alive and sane whilst also doing all that admin, etc? Oh and about a third of the kids will have significant disabilities because special schools don’t exist anymore because they were too expensive to run. That’s what teaching is actually like. You don’t just turn up and read them stories. Your comment smacks of someone who has never done any significant childcare, let alone trying to impart education.
Teachers need a kick up the back side!!! Now get back to work and start grinding it out, you get more holidays than anyone so stop the bloody moaning and get slogging it out.
We deserve those holidays. We don't work 9 to 5. We work overtime every single day. We lesson plan, mark and liaise with parents every day. How about the government support teachers more and pay us fairly?
Teachers don't get more holidays than anyone else. They get the same as the rest of us. You're confusing teacher's holidays with school holidays, which majority of teachers work through.
Teachers don't have 90+ days holiday a year. That's school holidays, bit of a difference. Want to know what teachers do for the majority of school holidays? Marking, grading work, preparing lessons, etc, etc. They have no more holiday than the rest of us.
Good! There are without doubt some great Teachers who make a huge impact on children's lives. Then sadly the Woke brigade that are young Teachers straight out of the conveyor belt of indoctrinated narrow minded mampy pampy, no one comes last Bull---- Seen it first hand with grandkids and step Daughter, the amount of mental health issues and kids not knowing who they are Male, female, I want to be a corn flake packet? They are mostly weak minded because their mummies and daddies tell them 24 hours a day they are utterly amazing ( whilst passing them junk food, while on the computer ) It is so sad! Not the kids fault If I had kids now I would teach them at home ( know unfortunately not everyone can afford that ) My grandson who is 12 came home and said one little lad had asked him to be his boyfriend and he said I just want to go to school and be me. Where does this crap come from? TEACHERS!! MSM! At 12 I was playing outside kicking a ball about etc and had no thoughts on such things. Just let them be children.
Fully agree my friend. My wife says kids walk in saying I want to now be known as...............WTAF!!!. Until it was talked about in social media and highlighted, you didnt see Bob short for kate in school. Now they are a non binary dust particle and everyone must give them rights!! Yep the same as you, at 12 playing kick can not asking my mam and dad if I could have a vagina instead of a pair of swingers. My dad would have kicked my swingers off! We were in the lakes, an expensive hotel, we went for a swim, steam room etc. My wife went to the changing room and there was a young lad of 19/20 wearing a bikini top, bikini bottom, you could see the twins below and he had no breast augmentation just 2 tictacs...My wife said get out now!! She complained to the hotel who thankfully agreed with her. World has gone mad!!
Yes, working 8.30a.m to 8.30 p.m every day was really stress-free. So was marking and feeding back on the work, completing an attendance log for every taught session, following up with welfare calls to absentees, checking in on the mental health of our students whilst also concerned about the health implications of COVID for ourselves and our families, attending online worship, a staff meeting every week, twilight professional development, completing twenty assigned online courses in one term and providing certificate evidence, writing subject leadership plans, dealing with parent complaints regarding your uploaded resources/ manner of teaching each session and thinking of ways to be creative and fun in a way that was new to all of us. So your talk of paid leave is absurd and I'd hazard a guess that you don't know any teachers. If you do, I will happily stand corrected. Have a wonderful day.
I just think it’s ludicrous that teachers complain about these things. I respected my teachers, was a good student, listened, kind and respectful. For teachers to complain about the salary, you know what your going to be paid when you start the job and you should have an idea of what other teachers get paid if not find out do research before joining teaching, this shows your unprepared as you’ve always spent time in education. One problem is all teachers stayed in education this whole time with no experience working and have no idea what world is like outside the 4 walls of education, so how can they advise students and teach well for industry. Another thing, it is your responsibility as teachers to keep students focused and motivated in your lessons if they don’t care it shows you don’t care a great deal else you would help them understand and get them motivated to learn ( All students have different qualities, they are not all the same so you can’t just keep doing the same thing for all students) your also in loco parentis so yes you are in place of parents and pull your fingers out you should care about your students. I know 2 teachers who did not care at all lied to me and failed me and I could of got into a lot of trouble due to their indiscretion. Again I was a good student cost me a great deal of personal problems also. I think teachers are in a very privileged position one I would like to be in to teach, yes the curriculum but also I would teach my own way not just the way you and other teachers who teach training teachers to teach. Therefore you will be more comfortable. Due to my own experience if I was a teacher I would not let one student in my class fail or drop out. If you can’t get students to be motivated and have the will to learn it is definitely your fault. Again I have much respect for teachers as a whole but please whenever I watch these videos you need to pull you fingers out. Is there negatives and downsides to teaching yes but that’s with every job. If you think teaching is just standing in front of the class to teach you are so very wrong, especially if your teaching secondary/ high school students or even younger especially younger. 1/4 of the job is standing at the front teaching, 1/4 is admin planning lessons marking papers what not and 1/2 is just being there caring for your students.
@@rachthelionheart flippant comment! Before commenting, you don’t know what people have been through. I was never saying it’s an easy job, quite the opposite in fact. Some teachers can’t complain about bad behaviour when they promote it and make bad decisions (which are hurtful to students). I see you might be a history teacher, if thats so and you’re a good one, then I’m sure your students are very lucky to have you! Just appreciate, it’s my experience! This doesn’t need a reply back!
@@TobeWill You said you think it's ludicrous that teachers complain about things like pay and student behavior. I would suggest that you may not understand because you haven't been a teacher. As you said, you don't know what someone else has been through.
13 weeks paid holidays a year and higher salaries and funding per pupil than most of the developed world. This girl should leave her job, she will get a shock when she enters the real world. Tired of hearing of their stressful workload, it’s utter rubbish. Work in the private sector, make decisions and if your lucky get 5 weeks holiday a year. This is pathetic
@@AprendeInglesConStephen because they haven’t had a proper job. Public worker sector as opposed to private sector that must pay for itself. Teachers whinge about how hard they work constantly
Why don’t you guys try teaching out if there’s so many benefits like holiday pay, job security and finishing at 3? Dealing with the disrespect and defiance from over a hundred teenagers every day who don’t want to be there or see the value of what you teach, spend hours marking and planning lessons that kids don’t listen to or care about. Also, don’t get me started on the sociopaths in admin. People can complain about how hard their marriage is or how hard raising their child is, no one bats an eye but teachers get no sympathy when they deal with much more and barely have their own lives. Go and experience it and enjoy your paid holiday and setting boundaries with the ‘delightful’ 13 year old boys and girls of social media/TikTok generation, then make a valid comment.
What a lightweight my heart bleeds , god help her if she had to get a real job with real hours or worse still 12 hour shifts and compulsory overtime like I sometimes had to do . They bang on about all the lost time kids have had from school due to covid and yet not one mention of a school holiday reduction they never have a problem with those 👍
I’m struggling to understand what these new teachers coming in actually think the job is going to be when they spend years training. They literally have placements during their training so can ask and see first hand what it’s like. At the end of the day they’re in a pretty responsible job with responsibility for young children. How could you not think it would have a high level of accountability and due process to follow especially these days. At the same time they do get loads of time off and lesson planning has never been easier as all resources are a click away. I’ve never had a senior role that wasn’t 10-12 hours a day minimum with work stress taken home but I never had every weekend off or 12 weeks off a year to compensate it.
It sounds like you have never actually spoken to and listened to a teacher, odd considering there are over 400,000 of them in the UK. If it is such an easy job why are so many leaving within five years? Perhaps you might consider teaching as an alternative job at some stage given it is so easy.
It’s pointless arguing; those that don’t teach think it’s an easy ride, those that do know it’s a tough job. There’s no public will too understand the role of teachers and the press perpetuate the idea of an easy ride. Accountability has always been part of the job, OFSTED have crippled most schools with the criteria for inspection changing every time, there isn’t 12 weeks off…that’s unpaid leave as we are paid for 1265 hours a year, that effectively 9-4.30 each day without paid breaks. All the other time needed to prepare and mark is given freely. As are parents evenings and staff meetings etc. 30 books x5 = 150 books per day to mark; ata an average of x2 mins per book that’s 300 mins ie 5 hours per day marking, often in three different colours with comments. Behavioural issues are the biggest problem; those problematic children at home are also problematic at school. There are more and more children with learning challenges than ever before in mainstream schools. The constant teacher bashing really doesn’t help…how do you expect children to have respect in schools if the media are constantly telling them it’s ok to bash their teachers? And some how it’s all the teachers fault! Governments tell teachers what to teach, so all the wokery? Well that’s down to GOVERNMENT! The role of the teacher has changed so much in the past 32 years I’ve been a teacher. My elder daughter starts her new career earning almost as much as I do, with free gym membership, healthcare insurance, day off for her holiday, 5 weeks paid leave and bank holidays, days off for volunteering, subsidised travel…and a relocation package. She’s 22, I’m 58. She’s an amazing young women having been taught by some inspirational teachers in the state sector…and she knows how hard it was to be me so has no intentions of becoming a teacher. Good for her.
I'm a teacher and this is the most heard cliché all the time. You don't know what you're talking about, because you're not a teacher. It's a mentally challenging and exhausting job. I would appreciate it if you stop parroting this dumb comments.