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Stripped Thread Repair: Helicoil vs. TimeSert vs. JB Weld | The Shop Manual
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Stripping out threads on your motorcycle is a terrible feeling, but don’t worry, those threads can be repaired! In this video from The Shop Manual we’ll discuss your options, including chasing the threads, installing a Helicoil insert, installing a TimeSert insert, and even using JB Weld.

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@RevZilla
@RevZilla 3 года назад
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@dymbag1
@dymbag1 Год назад
So glad you said stripping the thread. Not I threaded it. I hate people that say they threaded something when the mean and should have said they striped the thread
@ka0skontrol504
@ka0skontrol504 Год назад
This video needs an update to include the locktite form-a-thread option.
@FortNine
@FortNine 3 года назад
That neon sign is lit. Also - did you customize your sling with ROK straps? That's peak motorcyclist right there. ~RF9
@rakyat13
@rakyat13 3 года назад
Hey Ryan!
@AriH211
@AriH211 3 года назад
Yessir, ROK strap FTW. The sling is supposed to apply tension between my clavicle and elbow to help pin the clavicle down while the ligaments heal, but the buckle kept slipping and the webbing had zero elasticity. Total shit design that I'm fairly certain was thought up circa WWII. Slapped a ROK strap on there and it was a huge improvement in comfort.
@user-po7iv4ni3o
@user-po7iv4ni3o 3 года назад
Been watching a ton of both your videos recently after getting back into motorbiking after a hiatus. Excellent top notch videos from both of you! BTW heal up fast Ari.
@fivetengarage2867
@fivetengarage2867 3 года назад
ROK straps are trash. On mine the buckles don't grip the straps so they slide loose.
@muzallisam5068
@muzallisam5068 3 года назад
imagine if the neon sign is actually a vfx...
@benwichser2991
@benwichser2991 3 года назад
I'm not sure which hurts more: Ari's shoulder or his soul from intentionally stripping that drain thread. I hope both get a speedy recovery.
@MrHintergittern
@MrHintergittern 3 года назад
Ari repairs a bike with only one arm 👍
@Otto45
@Otto45 3 года назад
It will be a sad day when Ari & Zack retire. I literally got into motorcycles because of these 2 & their bromance!
@aumkar2
@aumkar2 3 года назад
You bet, luckily that ain't happening anytime soon I'm sure!
@zdc590
@zdc590 3 года назад
Stop hurting yourself, man. This community can't afford to lose you.
@TommyAngelo1337
@TommyAngelo1337 3 года назад
The job he is doing for this community kind of involves hurting himself from time to time. Have to respect it.
@AndrewDasilvaPLT
@AndrewDasilvaPLT 3 года назад
Could you imagine having to rely on Yammie Noob for entertainment? 😓😓🤢
@zdc590
@zdc590 3 года назад
@@AndrewDasilvaPLT That dude still exists? I thought he was launched into orbit?
@AndrewDasilvaPLT
@AndrewDasilvaPLT 3 года назад
@@zdc590 We can only pray. 😓🙏🙏
@driftingastronaut
@driftingastronaut 3 года назад
Bruh why the hate??????
@angelocardoc
@angelocardoc 3 года назад
Grease on the tap to catch the metal filings. Good trick! I learned something today.
@headkicked
@headkicked 3 года назад
Ouch! Hope you recover quickly and well, Ari! Thanks for another great video!
@lanceke
@lanceke 3 года назад
Thanks for the video! I always wondered what I would have to do in case I ruin the oil-plug threads. Wishing you a fast recovery from your injury!
@TreadTalk247
@TreadTalk247 2 года назад
Godspeed on healing!!!!! As always, the best videos on the subject avail ANYWHERE today!!!🤘🏼🤘🏼
@big_daddo92
@big_daddo92 3 года назад
Finally! I know the right way to do this! Thanks for all the great knowledge Ari! Get better soon!
@jimk9839
@jimk9839 2 года назад
This is a great video, straight to the point and easy to understand. I just installed not one but 2 helicoils on my Versys 650 using this video as a tutorial. Overtightened a couple bolts on my new aluminum hand guard brackets and striped the threads. Lot cheaper than new brackets! Plus I have a new trick in the toolbox for next time… I’m sure this won’t be the last time I mess up some threads. Thank you Ari for the great video and helping me fix my mistake!
@sushpants
@sushpants 3 года назад
This was a really well done video. Awesome video with no time wasting and just pure knowledge. Thank you!
@TheDavidb138
@TheDavidb138 3 года назад
Had the bolt snap on the clutch cover. Ended up sticking a helicoil in it as I’m pretty used to doing that at the machine shop I work at. Another awesome video. 🙌🏻
@ecrusch
@ecrusch 3 года назад
I always learn something from you. I hope your shoulder heals quickly. Thank you
@uarun01
@uarun01 3 года назад
Thanks for the video, Ari! Wishing for your speedy recovery.
@The333
@The333 3 года назад
This was an extremely well done and informative post (as usual) - Bravo. Sorry to see that you clipped your wing, Ari, but that's why we love ya - you are the real deal. Great stuff.
@AmazingChinaToday
@AmazingChinaToday 2 года назад
Phenomenal video, the insert comparison at the end was great.
@dangerm2156
@dangerm2156 3 года назад
I've the same problem on my cbr 250r oil cover.. I temporarily solved the problem by putting a little bigger bolt but the next time I open it I'll be needing helicoil. Thanks Ari.. Love you bro.
@grantdeisig1360
@grantdeisig1360 2 года назад
I've used an insert before that is like a time sert, but it has a knurled top edge and it comes with a special punch to flare out the top knurling to hold it into place once screwed in. Worked great on my kz650 oil drain plug.
@Quatra05
@Quatra05 3 года назад
Just goobered up one of my spark plug holes recently. Got a tap called a back tap. This tap chases the threads in reverse, reducing the potential for getting junk in the cylinder head like a normal thread chaser would. Extra cash but well worth it!
@leftymike8730
@leftymike8730 3 года назад
I really wish I saw this video years ago! Greta job and get well soon Ari!
@TheReacTT
@TheReacTT 3 года назад
Thanks for the amazing content Ari. I hope you recover well!
@jamesknauer2525
@jamesknauer2525 2 года назад
Thx for the video helped me fix cross threads on my frame!
@JackstandJohnny
@JackstandJohnny 3 года назад
This is the best video on this subject that Ive ever seen.
@whatdiduspect
@whatdiduspect 3 года назад
I hope you get well soon , please take care of you self Ari. And keep up the good work , really apriciat the video thanks
@osimnod
@osimnod 2 года назад
Had never heard of a thread chaser until this repair video. Good to know it exists rather than jumping straight to a tap-and-die system. Just used JB Weld for first time repairing a tail trunk - fiberglass tape plus epoxy. Not pretty but hopefully it'll hold.
@AndrewBoundy
@AndrewBoundy 3 года назад
Great video as always Ari. Heal-up quick and completely amigo.
@matiaswagner9810
@matiaswagner9810 3 года назад
I'm getting very good ryanf9 vibes from this video. I want more.
@MikeWrenches
@MikeWrenches 3 года назад
To keep shavings from falling into the cylinder, set the piston at bottom dead center and fill the cylinder with shaving foam. Once you're done creating shrapnel, turn the engine over to squeeze out the foam which will carry out the shavings.
@henrikforsberg683
@henrikforsberg683 2 года назад
Interesting idea!
@HvV8446
@HvV8446 2 года назад
Nah, id rather just take the head off. Much less messy
@andreyangere3076
@andreyangere3076 2 года назад
@@HvV8446 why? All that work
@tedmagnum6968
@tedmagnum6968 2 года назад
@@andreyangere3076 Absolute no guarantee you won't lose a shaving. I've had freshly rebored cylinders ruined by a few grains of missed shot blasting media in the past. Let alone metal shavings. It's just not worth the risk with a cylinder.
@andreyangere3076
@andreyangere3076 2 года назад
@@tedmagnum6968 I'd rather risk some soft aluminum shavings in the cylinder that will get blown out within the first few cycles vs taking apart the entire top end, any damage they do is negligible
@MarzNet256
@MarzNet256 2 года назад
Excellent video. I actually remember pulling threads out of a magnesium fork when removing V-brake bolts. They put red loctite on them which pulled the threads right out. It was a crappy Rockshox fork on a 1995 Specialized Rockhopper A1 Comp (which I still have, with new fork, etc.).
@magnusconsul
@magnusconsul 3 года назад
Thanks and I hope you recover quickly.
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 3 года назад
Great video. I had to learn this stuff the hard way.
@graw4868
@graw4868 3 года назад
Very good presentation - and thanks for testing JB Weld.
@stormatron6184
@stormatron6184 3 года назад
The TimeSert likely pulled out earlier because it's designed to have the bolt head against it, for the correct depth. It likely would have snapped the head of the bolt off if used as intended to make a flush surface for the bolt head.
@quazy1328
@quazy1328 3 года назад
JB weld is great for fixing damaged sealing surfaces. Had a track drive on a 200T crane bearing come apart and gouged the sealing surface. A new output drive was 6 weeks out, so me and the other mechanic decided to buy all the JB weld the local parts house had in stock and we filled in the gouges then used fine emery cloth with oil to smooth it out. That was 8 years ago and it still hasn't leaked.
@kiwikidusa
@kiwikidusa 2 года назад
I second zdc590. Your production quality and content is truly excellent and that's coming from someone who spent more than 15 years in New Zealand and Japan being part of video and film productions. Thank you and stay safe.
@shadowred1980
@shadowred1980 3 года назад
Wishing you a fast recovery.
@c10seth
@c10seth 3 года назад
Another awesome episode, Ari. Heal fast!
@sidehop
@sidehop Год назад
Thanks! Love your site by the way; always buy gears from you guys. I'm glad I watched this as I wasn't 100% sure if the JB Weld would actually hold...I'm going to use Helicoil!
@shishkatian
@shishkatian 3 года назад
Thanks Ari for the video... Get well soon Ari...
@drewlarson65
@drewlarson65 3 месяца назад
damn do I love revzilla, another great video!
@jasondunn8894
@jasondunn8894 3 года назад
Love these videos. Keep ‘em coming👍
@DrLFV
@DrLFV 3 года назад
Wishing you a quick recovery.
@CubanRider
@CubanRider 3 года назад
Excellent video Ari, get well soon.
@fathuthreev2279
@fathuthreev2279 2 года назад
This is so useful. That what i said to the mechanic to just rethread or something but he told me to just get a new engine case. never came back
@rodintoulouse3054
@rodintoulouse3054 3 года назад
Very clear explanation. Get well soon!
@christians131
@christians131 3 года назад
This was a great vid covering something we’re all bound to encounter at least once. Looking forward to another one covering rounded & broken off bolt heads!
@AriH211
@AriH211 3 года назад
Yup, it's on the list.
@paulaus
@paulaus 3 года назад
For non critical fixings you can wind a thin piece of copper wire around your bolt. The soft copper will fill in the spaces caused by the stripping. I used that trick on a sprocket cover where the thread in the engine block was stripped.
@fredflintstone4087
@fredflintstone4087 3 года назад
As always, you make great vids and wishing you get better brother.
@Thomas1000RR
@Thomas1000RR 3 года назад
Another great video. Thanks Ari!
@kcwong68
@kcwong68 3 года назад
Thanks for the knowledge and get well soon. Love your video.
@mustangVishal
@mustangVishal 3 года назад
wishing you a speedy recovery mate. Get well soon.
@ricktalbott9611
@ricktalbott9611 2 года назад
Keyserts are another option too. Great Video !!
@FreshYoungDude
@FreshYoungDude 3 года назад
Really well done video!
@lorawaloski
@lorawaloski Год назад
I was looking for comparisons on the Helicoil and timesert for another application, but this video was absolutely perfect even though I don’t ride motorcycles lol
@Michael-ur4yc
@Michael-ur4yc 3 года назад
I hope you're ok. I've heard that torn ligaments can hurt pretty bad. Love that you're still doing videos though, this series is incredible.
@AriH211
@AriH211 3 года назад
I'm outta the sling and mostly recovered, thanks!
@Michael-ur4yc
@Michael-ur4yc 3 года назад
@@AriH211 That's great to hear! Hopefully you get out for some nice riding again soon.
@1TruePatriot
@1TruePatriot 3 года назад
@@AriH211 VERY glad to hear that, Brother!!!
@Badenhawk
@Badenhawk 2 года назад
Strangely enough, when people tear their ACL they say that it was a painful pop and then after a couple minutes stopped hurting and they felt like they could walk on it again, which is a bad idea because the ligament is torn lol.
@GUIRADE95
@GUIRADE95 2 года назад
You guys are blessed living on a 1st world country, I was sent from the US long time ago as a General Director of a NYC company out of the 500 fortune magazine. Long story short I got engaged with a native woman, then again and now I live here permanently. I do part time mechanic only in our cars. All the tools here are imported, kits like this or other high tech tools are imported as well. The trash they sell here is all made in China. Local shops are big scammers. Something sold in the US for 20 USD cost 60 here. The things is if they sent the wrong part you're screwed. I wish I had never left the USA.
@aj-m2713
@aj-m2713 3 года назад
Did the whole helicoil rigmarole a couple of months before this video, it was for one of the tank holes on the aluminium frame. Super nerve-racking procedure!!. Make sure you use cutting oil, will make everything go smoothly.
@dbconz
@dbconz Год назад
This was a good video. I stripped a plug thread once at the track. Tossed JB weld on it and let it cure overnight. It held for 2 seasons before I needed to change plugs and just swapped the head. Works in a pinch, but like the video isn’t a good repair option.
@whatsupdocchemdog5994
@whatsupdocchemdog5994 6 месяцев назад
I've seen JB Weld used to fix a cracked block on an 120 Mercury Outboard. That's when I realized how JB Weld can be used and how great it is.
@CommieHunter7
@CommieHunter7 3 года назад
Best shop manual yet.
@jimv1484
@jimv1484 Год назад
solid vid......outstanding! subscribed.
@vivienstaehle1326
@vivienstaehle1326 3 года назад
this video is GOLD
@EgbertAllen
@EgbertAllen 3 года назад
Wishing you fast recovery man so you and zack can do more CTXP videos!
@AriH211
@AriH211 3 года назад
We're filming another CTXP this week!
@Coryking2938
@Coryking2938 2 года назад
Well this settles the debate on whether or not helicoils are weak!! Awesome video
@SniperFattyBrawlstar
@SniperFattyBrawlstar 3 года назад
This video is sooooo important really.
@WojciechKalka
@WojciechKalka 3 года назад
Get well asap :) all the best from Thailand
@gilgarcia3008
@gilgarcia3008 2 года назад
The JB weld makes a great pipe dope for sloppy pipe threads. I’ve even used it on the manifold of my California air tools compressor that is made out of aluminum, and it’s lasted more than two years.
@tuxnoel
@tuxnoel 6 месяцев назад
Oversizing the hole to next level by drilling and tapping has worked for me well.
@johnsmith2591
@johnsmith2591 3 года назад
Just overtightened my drain bolt. This couldn't have come at a better time.
@SuperRicktastic
@SuperRicktastic 3 года назад
Wishing you a fast recovery! Personally, I stripped out the drain plug on my V-Star. Another option, which I used, was to tap a new hole and use an oversized bolt with a crush washer. I wouldn't recommend this on areas where you have limited metal or bolt space, but for the drain plug it worked like a charm. Also don't use this on areas with a higher torque spec. I suspect the high torque on a larger-than-spec bolt could just lead to another stripped out hole. Then you're really f***ed.
@tadeall86
@tadeall86 2 года назад
First off, thank you for what you do! You're always my first goto repair education for my bike (2017 HD Dyna Lowrider). This video really hits home and definitely will invest in helicoil. Question I have is depth: how do you know how deep you need to go? Example, exhaust studs! It was a sad day! Hope you get better and I'll let you know how it turns out. Take it easy!
@derekbender
@derekbender 3 года назад
Great vid!! Get well soon Ari!
@joshhope9287
@joshhope9287 3 года назад
Very informative video!!!!!
@Philthy82
@Philthy82 2 года назад
Good video, thanks!
@TheRacerRich
@TheRacerRich 3 года назад
If you don't have a thread chaser and you've done the thing that sometimes happens where you've somewhat mangled all the threads, but not totally removed them, taking a clean bolt of the correct size and driving it in 1 full turn at a time (i.e. 1 turn, back out, clean hole and bolt, 2 turns, back out, clean whole and bolt, and so on until you've done all the threads), it can save you in a pinch.
@motocomconteudo497
@motocomconteudo497 3 года назад
Very useful content! congrats!
@markowsley4954
@markowsley4954 3 года назад
I've used a timesert on a spark plug hole without removing the head. No shavings ended up in the cylinder. I used a lot of grease and first made sure the exhaust valves were open. Once I was done installing the time setting I used compressed air to blow any shavings out the plug hole.
@specialized29er86
@specialized29er86 9 месяцев назад
We use both the Helocoil and the TimeSerts great products.
@Impervium1090
@Impervium1090 3 года назад
I cross threaded one of the holes on the bottom of the fork where the caliper mounts to trying to bolt the caliper back on. Luckily the shop was able to fix it using one of these methods I’m sure. Now I just have one larger bolt and 3 stock ones. Better than replacing an entire fork!
@vidster7
@vidster7 3 года назад
Fast recovery 🙏 Ari
@hkeg80
@hkeg80 3 года назад
nice to see I'm not the only one who is heavy into the gospel of Rok Straps, never thought of using them on a shoulder sling though. Get well soon.
@AriH211
@AriH211 3 года назад
It was a huge improvement for the sling, which is supposed to hold down the clavicle while the ligaments mend.
@nickfozouni8126
@nickfozouni8126 3 года назад
Very informative thanks
@stevefernandes7778
@stevefernandes7778 3 года назад
Great video. Hope your shoulder feels quickly.
@AkaAndyKnuckles
@AkaAndyKnuckles 3 года назад
Nice video. In quite some cases you can increase to the next bolt size and rethread too, I guess.
@MachTuck
@MachTuck 2 года назад
Xcelent explenation!
@ionbusman2086
@ionbusman2086 3 года назад
Great information! But!! A quick trick. Instead of a thread chaser he first showed.. you can cut grooves “flutes” into a bolt. And it works the exact same! I’ve done it several times! This only fixes holes that are cross threaded. Bonus tip! If you strip out a bolt hole, cut a piece of steel wire, and put it in the hole, and insert the bolt. This does work! Ari is showing the right way to do this. But if you need help in a pinch you can cut some corners.
@MikeACorrado
@MikeACorrado 2 года назад
great video!
@brentfrank7012
@brentfrank7012 3 года назад
Hope you heal quickly.
@SausageSide
@SausageSide 9 месяцев назад
Have previously raced a CBR600 with helicoiled front brake calipers. I was dreadful, but not because of the brakes; they were fine 👍
@ethancass6885
@ethancass6885 3 года назад
yeah last year bought a used sv1000s. had no major problems, went to change the oil. saw that they had a temperary rubber plug, which was working. Decided to use an insert and used the wrong Tap w/ Red locktite long story short had to rebuild the entire engine with an ebay crankcase, but hey she runs like a beauty though. Moral of the story, use your brain and stress less about getting your bike rideable within a day, spend the few extra bits of time to do it right :)
@HiveMind2024
@HiveMind2024 3 года назад
THANK YOU
@chrisc6874
@chrisc6874 3 года назад
Timesert is the shit! Used it to fix bottom drain plug on my vtx 1300. It has two drain plugs. Kept leaking. I called their customer service and they said it had to be tightened more. I felt like I was stripping it again just like Ari says in the video. But, after that it never leaked again and is more solid then a new bike!
@sixmetalhead142
@sixmetalhead142 2 года назад
Thank's for sharing that! I have the same problem now on my vtx 1300S :( i love that bike bro. I have been searching Timesert in mexican stores and have not found it, where did you buy It? Do you apply the torque that service manual says? If i am right says that is 22lb-ft for both drain plugs. I am thinking about to use heli coil as a posible solution becauase i can found it with a quickly shipping in my country, but if fails, i go with the timesert.
@Diego_Gin
@Diego_Gin 3 года назад
GREAT VIDEO!
@GUIRADE95
@GUIRADE95 2 года назад
To pull out the shavings from a pistón use an adapted small long rubber hose to a high performance vacuum. It works perfect! Then you check with the snake camera.
@larrybroad8746
@larrybroad8746 2 года назад
i use both heli coil and jb weld smere the jb weld on the outside of the heli coil and install the coil wait 24 hours before you insert the bolt i did it to my 1970 el camino 350 sb starter bolt work perfectly. Larry B
@rgbtwist982
@rgbtwist982 3 года назад
Finally a new video of The Shop Manual!!! You should have your own channel !!! :D
@matiaswagner9810
@matiaswagner9810 3 года назад
De-fi-ne-tly !
@rgbtwist982
@rgbtwist982 3 года назад
@@matiaswagner9810 this show it's the only reason why I subscribed. Great Job Ari!
@SaifullahSammo
@SaifullahSammo 3 года назад
get well soon brother....
@vihanthamaraka3047
@vihanthamaraka3047 2 года назад
i rely love this guy
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