I wish I lived in Florida so I could come to your shop. The help you have given Al is a wonderful example of your dedication to truly help people in need. I hope you get the recognition you deserve with increased sales and traffic to your store.
Unless you are unfortunate enough to live in California, I see zero reason to buy this, whatsoever! Yesterday I bought a BR800 which is approximately 1/4 the price, has double the blowing force, weighs 10lbs less, and has unlimited run time. Progress indeed! Thank you for the review…. I did find it very informative, and will check back as these continue to improve.
I work in P and R and I can honestly say these are garbage compared to a gas blower. 45 min with one of these on your back isn't really fun but hey the hippies gotta have their "green" equipment even though electric products are destined to waste more co2 and are harder to recycle..
Where I live, they will make it law in one year where we can’t use gas powered blowers due to gas emissions. Looking for what would be a good replacement for the br600.
Love your channel/reviews and thank you for helping out Al Bladez! The price of that unit is insane. I don't see this being a viable option for a very long time. I could basically go out and buy 4 echo 9010t's for the same price as this unit and each echo unit has roughly 2 times the blowing force as 1 of these. That means approx. 2 times the production from 1 person. As the saying goes time = money. The area I live in is a very leaf heavy area too in the fall/winter. So, the higher CFM and blowing force is really important. Batteries even over time and in cold climates also reduce run time, so there is that as well. The government/companies pushing all this makes no sense. Why pay more money, have less production and have to constantly get more batteries. It makes no sense at all! I currently have 2 80cc Shindawai blowers and I wouldn't trade them for anything. They crank on the first pull every time, have far more blowing force than any battery powered blower on the market and a much longer run time at full throttle.
That's all very good points. Thank you for sharing. I am with you on these not being THE most viable option at least right now. but looking forward to seeing how they develop in the near future.
@@mainstreetmowerI think they are pretty limited for this application with current technology. DC motors get heavy as the horsepower goes up. Also batteries have far less energy density than gasoline. So to equal a similar run time the battery has to weigh a lot more than a tank of gas. The trimmers are pretty close to being a viable alternative for commercial use.
So what do we do then? As a home owner in a walkable (compact) residential area, these things drive me nuts, the pollution that pours out of a 2-stroke is just the worst, and leaf blowers are the worst culprits. I completely understand the price, battery life, weight - all that - performance wise, it is clearly inferior to a gasoline 2 stroke engine, but my question now is, *should* you be allowed to use gasoline anymore? I get that it's more convenient, faster, lighter and cheaper for you, and that you don't want to be more expensive compared to your competitors, but you know what that points to? Compulsory legislation. If you and your competitors are all forced to go electric, the cost of equipment, the cost in time, that increase happens to all providers at once. Landscaping gets more expensive in order to end noise and particulate pollution in cities, you won't like it, your customers won't like it, but the current situation is intolerable, you can hear those things for 10 blocks in all directions, so it becomes a constant nuisance. There are cheaper alternatives to the STIHL products, STIHL does look good though.
I know it’s not related to this video but thank you for gifting the mover to Al Bladez you all are amazing! Now he can help even more people. I hope everyone in your area knows what a great company you all are!
I'd need about three of those $1300 batteries (it's $1900 up here in Canada) a day cleaning up wet leaves in November. I sure they hope they can make them lighter, cheaper and with significantly longer run times in the coming years. Until they ban gas-powered blowers on me I'll be running a BR500 or BR600 thank you very much!
Chip, that was awesome of you to loan Al Bladez that 36 inch Grandstand. I am super impressed with the performance those Grandstands achieve! I continue to pray for a speedy and complete recovery on your knee. 🙏 As for the Stihl BGA 300, I'd have to pass on this machine for my application (residential homeowner use). Fortunately technology always improves in time, and you have to start somewhere, and I'd say the BGA 300 provides a solid ground to build upon. I suspect 10 years from now many, if not the majority of us, will be operating battery-powered lawncare/landscape equipment.
The noise difference with he battery is nice! And it does just as well as the gas. As a homeowner, it is very tempting to go with the battery so I don't have to worry about maintenance nearly as much.
The maintenance on gas powered equipment for homeowners is frequently exaggerated or overstated. It is true that all gas powered equipment requires some basic maintenance. But I wager it would be a very long time, if ever, before a gas powered BR 600 (DSRP $549.99), for example, would cost $1600 to maintain, including the cost of gas and oil and other parts required for routine maintenance. I've owned one for over 10 years and all I've done is periodically change the plug, air filter and fuel filter. If I live long enough I may reach the hourly point where they recommend having the valves adjusted. Our lawn is roughly 12,000 square feet in size. In my opinion, Stihl has really come up a cropper on this piece. It's your money and I'm sure Stihl will be glad to take it.
Ya, works great for a year of medium to heavy use. Then you are running to the charger all the time. 😂 I'm going through that with a leaf blower right now. I've lost about 20-25% of my battery. It's a high demand battery also. Gas powered, I'll take hands down. I can buy 4 gas blowers for the price of this thing. These high demand tools eat batteries for lunch.
I have an old cheap corded craftsman handheld blower and it puts out 220 mph wind velocity and will blow leaves 30 feet in front of it, and it weighs maybe 4 pounds but we'll balanced, it does the job very well and I think I paid $59.99
Something not mentioned-- with a gas blower, you can be confident in its runtime. With batteries, its advertised charge will diminish over time to the point where you will second guess whether you can finish a job.
Absolutely, Al does such great work that i wanted to show my support however possible. Thank you for checking out our channel. Hope you find some of the content on here useful to you.
Ok, I wasn't expecting the battery to be almost double the price of the blower! I though $400 at the highest for the battery 😢 I guess it'll be the BR800 C-E if I buy.
Ofcourse, anything to support the incredible work Al does. Thank you for checking out our channel though. Hope you find some of the content on here useful to you.
Great review. We have gradually gone mote and more to battery, and they are great for some things, but, in my opinion, gas is still king for some stuff. I don't see how, with that cost, a lawn care company could justify the cost. But it is nice and does look quality for sure.
I totally understand. Gas can seem like a better option but only for now. I think electric costs will go lower over the coming years, making it better pick all around.
For now it does seem like a novelty product that might be useful in very specific scenarios, but i wouldn't throw out the idea of blowers becoming a viable battery product in a very very near future.
@@mainstreetmower The energy density and cost isn't even close to parity with gas. I'm a big electric fan, drive an EV, etc...but some things aren't ready. Pickup trucks that tow, blowers, and mowers are a few of them. I won't buy a gas car, nor will I buy an electric truck. Won't buy a gas hedge trimmer, nor an electric blower. Gas/electric should be chosen based on which makes the most sense for an application...this $2300 blower is not sensible.
@@mainstreetmower the fundamental metric here is cost for performance. Currently this seems to be one order of magnitude too high. (10 x) At the same time, the weight should be reduced by about 50% and the run time increased by a factor of 2. This is a pretty difficult engineering problem as I am sure Stihl engineers used everything at their disposal from a technology standpoint to get this result. It will require several breakthroughs to accomplish this…. I hope it can be done, but I don’t see it happening that fast.
Sounds like a product we would absolutely love to explore. But the real challenge would be to get our hands on one. We'll see what we can do, thank you for the suggestion tough 🙂
Tudo certo aí grande?Belo equipamento ein! Aqui no Brasil estamos ainda na época dos dinossauros, aqui a bateria mais potente é a ap300r,e o soprador top de linha é o bga86,a stihl poderia ter um pouco mais de consideração e mandar equipamentos melhores pra cá, parabéns pelo vídeo
They get you twice, first time is expensive backpack without battery then expensive battery sorry three times a charger you have to buy also wow I'll stay with me gas one.
Great blower, too much right now, but it will come down. I switched to electric for landscaping tools 10 years ago except for my kubota backhoe and have never looked back ( I am a very small operation). So much better experience and reliability.
Well, on the positive, it should be good to sit on the foot platform of your Toro Z-Master to blow as you ride the property, but the cost is of two BR-800s. It seems that I get about two to three years out of a BR-600, so if this blower can last 6 years without replacement, then it might be worth it. But the down side is so much more weight and I'm not getting any younger and this is down on power of a BR-600. I guess it comes down to how bad you want to go green. That said I have bought the StilhKMA-135R and use it for mainly weedeating and mostly on low power with a 300S battery and a backup 300 battery. It was a hard punch in the gut to get started price wise, but it is quiet and I don't have to pull start it, EVER, and I have cut my use of two stroke gas in half (due to using it in the blower.)
Purchased the 80V Greenworkstools blower, not a bad unit but size of my property makes it nearly unusable. Too many square feet to cover on 1/2 to 3/4 acre property. I’ve needed to recharge a dozen times or more and am not done with leaves yet….
Thats one pricey machine, hopefully someday it will go down. I once had br800 blower and someone else wanted it more than me. Now i got a used one lol. I like stihl i think they have great product
Thank you for your video,like to try battery backpack blower,but more heavy,more money,less run time,i guess only fit home owners,may be in the leaves season,home owners will need two battery too😂
Should have play'd each audio independently instead of playing the electric blower at the same time as showing the gas sound. Also should not of had so much runtime footage sped up.
There might have been some confusion but audios from both the blower are played independently in the video. Thank you for the suggestion though. We'll keep it in mind.
@@mainstreetmower Just underlines the need for legislation to force these though - companies won't do the right thing on their own, they are only interested in their bottom line - this is the 'eco' problem in a nutshell, when it's cheaper to pollute, businesses will pollute - no surprise there - but this is why we fine people for dumping waste into a river, we need to do the same for dumping burnt oil and half burnt gasoline (2 stroke) into the air, but we don't, the noise pollution also takes it's toll, especially as it's effectively continuous in a dense neighbourhood - someone somewhere is using one of these things, and the sound carries for blocks. All the landscaping companies commenting here "it's too expensive, I won't do it unless forced" all point to needing compulsory legislation in order to do the right thing - of course they will then complain about government overreach.
So basically the only way a professional is gonna use this is if it’s required for a lower noise and gas fume free work site. All the rest of us will just use gas and not put extra worries about charging batteries into a job that’s already challenging. Here in California there’s several places where gas blowers are banned or limited to 65 DBs and rarely does it get enforced. I do use some battery tools in my line up but they are secondary. Probably my favorite battery tool is my 12 volt Milwaukee single hand chainsaw. I’d like to mention that the telescoping tube thst stihl makes is a lame pos and all it does it add a lot of weight to the tube. Even my co worker that is like 5 foot 6 would not collapse the tube shorter on the blower. Luckily we use BR 600s but a few of the guys in my company enjoy their loud pos 430s with the heavy dumb tube with the collar on it.
I run Stihl chainsaws, but Echo backpack blowers (9010). For some reason, 1 gallon of gas per hour doesn’t sound right to me, but maybe the Stihls use more.
We have actually done a testing where we calculate the exact gas consumption for those brands. You can check it out here if you're interested: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-29MAsbTqaeo.html
Holy Crap Stu 😮. It must not be my day l went to buy a new mower and either they don't take trades or the fees Dealer fee $125 paperwork fee from the finance company $125. Acquisition fee $700 or $800 Sales tax $750 or higher and that's so called zero interest With interest 13.5 percent holy crap l had my first heart attack 😮😮😮😮
I like it, but will most likely stick with my BR 700. Not that this electric blower doesn’t have a place. Plus I’ve got a couple of 4 gallon backpack sprayers that half full. Weigh about the same as this blower and that’s heavy. I’m glad I don’t have to wear them very much or often. With that said. As for battery powered equipment. I still prefer to have one or two big batteries powerful enough to run all my equipment. Instead of having to buy eight smaller ones.
@@mainstreetmower I don't have a Maruyama blower yet. I've owned a 'B30L Turbo' Trimmer/Brush saw since May 16th, 2017. It's used hard every season. I run non-ethanol fuel mixed with Amsoil Sabre @100:1. It remains a sweet, smooth, powerful and easy starting treat to use. The only thing I've had to replace on it is its shaft, but that was due to my misuse. --Placing too much pressure against it while cutting through shrub trunks and roots with steel blades, causing premature wear on the internal bushings. The spark plug has never been changed. It fires every time on the second pull, unless it's cold outside; which then it requires a third. The shaft was replaced during the tail end of last year and that was the reason why I had to purchase the replacement, due to it being outside of its "IRON-5YR Commercial" warranty. The model has been renamed to "B300L TURBO". The 'turbo' nomenclature corresponds to the 1.9:1 gear reduction, increasing torque.
Just buy a corded one, buy a generator, buy 500 feet of extension cords and still have lots of money left compared to buying the electric battery backpack
I have no objection to battery equipment, but being a solo operator, and being in my mid 50's, replacing my current equipment, would cost me around £18,000. Way too much at my time of life! As for this backpack blower, it's no match for my current Husqvarna 570BTS by any stretch!
All battery power equipment runtime will only last long when its still new. Once you use for awhile the battery won't last long anymore. And batteries are expensive.
You would be surprised. I think there's still more people in the gas camp than battery, and I do understand their stance as well. But yes I agree, battery does seem to be the next step.
This is ridiculous! 36 pounds! Very low Newton number! Stihl engineers may I ask “What are you thinking”? This is coming from a fan with many pieces of your previously well engineered equipment!
I bought a lithium ion battery impact wrench a few years ago. It used it once every 1 to 2 years. I finally died when I needed it. Batteries degrade over time.
Who the hell does this actually 4… I can’t see a single commercial company actually using this… And on the other side of the coin, it is way too expensive for your average homeowner… So why does this product even exist…?
This thing will go out of production within a couple years. $2300, 36 pounds, and only 1-2 hours run time. For commercial use or big jobs you would need either a second battery ($1200), or stop and spend hours to charge it. Oh and significantly less power than a br600-800.
Absolutely not!!!! Go back to the drawing board and get real and get practical guys. Ego defined has a better unit and a better price plus less weight too! Also price is ridiculous!!!! My gas blower is still supreme and works perfectly and very practical!!!!
Just saw it on the shelf of a local shop for sale. It was at over 3000.00 bucks for the Greenies to Whine about to save the earth from their delusions of Glo-Bull Warming :)
@@mainstreetmower it’s really crazy…. I thought the electrics would be more comparable by now. My collection of small engine Stihl tools that I use to care for my properties may gain considerable value if they try to force the electric thing. What surprised me the most was how heavy this blower is. I subbed your channel and look forward to your analysis of upcoming products.
@@pacificdune Thanks for sharing. It would be interesting to see if the gas units actually go up in value. Thank you for the sub tho, really appreciate it. 🙂