Here is the Moen Cartridge Puller I used in the video, they aren't the most durable so get a few if you work with these alot - amzn.to/3GW1qGx As an Amazon Affiliate I may receive a commission on qualifying purchases.
So I break those HC two tabs on the 1222 so when I screw in the cap nut tight, it will actually start pulling out the valve a bit, allowing it to break that seal caused by calcium/maganese build up. New subscriber, love the videos!
I work in a 700 units condo resort, one of the managers went with a new guy last week to removed a RP delta cartridge last week, I told them to be careful those delta with a big ring on the outside are a bitch when stuck, they insist in trying to remove and broke the cartridge housing, the unit is one of the private units ( not owned by our company) $8000.00 dollars to replace the housing and redone all the expensive stone wall around the shower. This wasn’t the first time I’ve seen happen, but sure it was the most expensive one. But it doesn’t compares to mistakes like on toilets, for example a fill valve leaking under the tank in an unoccupied unit for couple days happened 5 times in the last 8 years. One alone caused a 120 thousand in damages, it leaked from the 18th floor all the way the first floor. I always triple check these simple jobs that can bite you later.
One trick i've used to reduce pain is to use a short stub of a slotted copper pipe between the puller and housing. This lets you create pulling force on the cartridge without having to yank the whole assembly out of the wall. Why they dont include a slotted stub with the puller is beyond me. I'm pretty sure that no matter how little scale there is, these dang cartridges stick due to those side rubber pieces. Heck, if you dont lube those side rubber pieces enough to begin with, they bind going in.
Use your finger and lube the inside...it helps...also use a silicon lube grease not the Moen crap. This style lasts until next cartridge change, years from now!! This works:Super Lube 41160 Synthetic Grease (NLGI 2), 14.1 oz Canister, Translucent White. Also great for drain line o-rings,P-trap type nylon seals...BUT USE the NEWER TYPE silicon blue or green rings...they compress in AND NEVER LEAK!!!😁😎👍👍👍👍
I think I bent the pipes pulling one of those out at one of my rental homes. I pay the plumber to do it now, especially if I have a tenant living there. Costs $250-300 around here and you can get the cartridge for free by calling Moen.
One I just did snapped off halfway out. Had to break it apart in little pieces. It was pain. Thankfully new one slide right in. I hate plumbing. You would think this is why we should convert over to exposed plumbing like in Europe.
There’s a company called Lakeview that’s makes a great valve puller. It’s very very pricey but I have 200+ of those 1222b valves at my property. It’s been well worth the price so far.
Another puller that works on every type of moen faucet is the ONA puller. You can youtube it. I use this almost daily. It's worth it's weight in gold A lot of my co workers now use it. There is no stress on the plumbing!.@ApartmentMaintenancePro
@michaelfaurot5991 I also have the Lakeview puller, I deal with alot of really old Moen Posi temp cartridges. The Lakeview puller normally snaps the stem off the cartridge, because of to much torque from the drill, but if the cartridge isn't that old it works good. I prefer the Ona Puller it work every single time and it's has multiple functions unlike the Lakeview puller. Also the Ona Puller is way cheaper than the Lakeview puller. Whatever works for you 🤙🏼
When the plastic handle broke because of the stiffness, I used pliers on the stem to turn it. Now I'm SOL because a puller won't go through the stem. I can't afford to remove the tub/shower surround and can't sell my home like this. Should I hacksaw off the flattened piece of stem? Any suggestions welcome.
I've drilled these out before, then carefully chisel them out with with a small chisel. You gotta be careful to not damage the brass fixture though, or you'll have to replace the whole fixture, which is probably $1000 or more unless you got plumbing skillz.
Hey thanks for the video, what if the new cartridge is tough to get in. It looks almost identical to the old one, so i assumed it would fit but its not sliding in very easy
Look for water build up inside the pipe - clean with CLR or something similar, ensure o-rings are lubricated, it should slide in without too much force.
Sorry Buddy, you are dead wrong with that comment. You tighten the nut until it is snug, and nothing else, which secures the puller firmly to the cartridge giving you the most amount of stability as you rotate the cartridge clockwise and counterclockwise continuously as you pull firmly straight outward.
