Stud Walls Made Easy. Framing Trade Tricks ~ Orangery 6 

Thanks Kevin. 🙌🏻

Assuming the plasterboards ARE 1200. Remember studding a wall once 35metres long, 600 centres, perfect. Boards show up 1197mm. 3mm that long across adds up to 100mm at the end

yeah I do that too

I’ve been using the clamped block trick to avoid “wasting” batten offcuts. But then I have to measure on each stud, get the block level. All told a real false economy even with a story stick. Thanks for exposing common sense. (And great sound. )

Me and my makita Del… Thanks for watching. 👊🏻 Think I’ve seen the noggin stick before recently.. 😂

@@Ultimate-roofing-square. You don't even need to bring one out Dan, just sell the plans to people so they can make their own😜

@@thetallcarpenter now that’s a good idea ..💡we can go in 50-50.. 😆

@@Ultimate-roofing-square. DEAL👊

Yoy also need to keep a level head

Yep, sometimes we can't see the wood for the trees.

Hi Mark, yes you did! However this was filmed last year! I did comment on TC’s channel at the time. Thanks for watching it, again 🙌

I’m going into partnership with TC. Thanks for watching 👊🏻

Can you copyright a stick?

@@richardcapey-wade8191 oh yes. We can copy right anything.. 😬

Thank Fergal

Thanks Mark. That’s not hard to be more reliable…

I second on both points

I agree and suggested it to Dan but he likes to put them up as he goes. Both methods have their merits.

Same here if the space allows it. Except I measure from the highest point on the floor not the lowest. Else you'll have one tight frame 😆

Kevin Moore I probably didn’t explain myself well, you’re looking for the smallest measurement between the floor and ceiling.

MAMS I knew what you meant friend. I was just being facetious 🤓

You beat me to it.

@@kiwigrunt330 Me too. We use a breathable membrane now to protect the studwork. You can't have too much thickness of insulation on the inside of situations like this. It's better on the outside, but most often difficult to achieve.

Assuming there will be insulation and barrier on internal side as well

Yeah I thought that was standard

I never stagger nogs. Makes it too hard to find them later if you need fixing for anything. And there is no need for it.

@@kiwigrunt330 we prefer the fixing to go in straight and never nail studwork, also noggin usually at 1200 and not much hangs at that height

We may be expensive, but at least we are slow and rough.

They are low switches.

@@SBIGDTSM 'new' regs, been a while now tho'. All to comply with access regs.

handycrowd I know mate, still ridiculously low.

@@SBIGDTSM Yeah, it does look stooopid when combined with the power points at 600mm off the floor. Sometimes wonder if they'll end up all at the same height one day lol!

I’ve seen rusted gypliner and stud. It the right thing if your DPMing the back wall as you’ll penetrate the waterproof sheeting

It would help to see some pictures. My immediate thought is that external wall insulation is the best bet. If not that then a rain screen on the outside

You are right but putting a permeable membrane on the wall leaves a dew point behind the membrane. The vapour is on the warm side of the poly and will evaporate. I am undecided about this wall/ We may cut the poly and staple it to the sides of the studs.

When you say it's a big mistake to put a barrier between the "rock & the studs" I'm guessing thats American for don't put a barrier between the plasterboards & studs? In the UK that is exactly where we do put it (on the warm side) due to the warm indoor air wanting to move outdoors to the cold. There are VERY few homes with aircon over here due to our lovely weather!

I was just thinking the same things and about to ask what that was going up behind.

Hilti keeps a records of the serial number of all the tools they sell so if they go in for service or repairs they will be re-united with the rightful owner if they are stolen. But this unfortunately makes no difference to thieves as they know the value of the Hilti tools and will target it. It did not stop them nicking all my hilti tools when my van got broken into😩😩

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@@carforumwanker ????!!

There shouldn't be a plastic membrane vapour barrier there to begin with. Wrong side of the studs.

@@kiwigrunt330 we like to fuck up in the Uk !!

Use screws if limited on tools it can be removed easier If not in the correct location, nail guns are more time efficient nether the less

Agreed I would screw it if I was only doing 1 not huge wall and didn't have a nail gun.

Hi Marco, it’s a occidental one. I bought it from TF tools but it’s also on Amazon.

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@@TheToolnut 😉🙌🏻

One hole every 600mm is not total contact so I argue with the word 'useless'. How long would it take for moisture coming through the screw thread to rot the plate?

No money

We put noggins at 1200 to catch the top and bottom of plasterboard sheets. We've always (for normal ceiling height) put the noggins in at 4', or 1200. The plasterboard makers make the sheets 1200. Why don't you just put the switches at 4'6" like you used to? If its disabled accessible, regs say max 1200mm. You know theres a noggin there, so put them in at 1150 top- this isn't rocket science, is it? BTW, how are you going to slide a cable down the back when the wall is stuffed with kingspan?

Usually cellotex insulation is applied which comes as 1200mm width, noggins are put in to 1200mm to efficiently make the most out of a board and have minimal waste

@@milotobin-storer3943 No, sorry. Noggins are there to carry the plasterboard. Before plasterboard, they were called fire-checks, and were put between studs to prevent fire spreading inside the walls- much more of a risk with lath and plaster. If the noggins were put at a height to minimise waste of PIR board, they would be at 1246 centres

@@rossbuchanan7632 Kingspan is able to be slid behind, as is fibreglass/rock wool. That spray crap isn't. Not sure what celotex is? Sheets also come in 10x5s, so fit them instead of 8x4s and move you noggins to suit or move them to face side flush instead of the way they're fitted here. Yea it's 1200 max for disabled access, doesn't mean I wana put them lower, thing of all the poor tall people breaking their backs bending down too

@@darylsavage119celotex is PIR sheet, same as kingspan, different manufacturer. The 10x5 plasterboards are twice the cost per sq/m, so it is very difficult to get the customer to spring for them. The spark I work with does 1st fix before we insulate, and its no bother at that point to put extra noggins in for sockets etc. It just helps if we all work to the same hymn sheet, which often isn't the case.

Ever consider Insulation?

@@milotobin-storer3943 your point being ?

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Jeremy I really don't understand that 'Stick to this or that' attitude, it is so limiting. I trained as a plumber and wrote for the plumbing trade press for over 35 years as well as writing books, and training at evening classes to become a teacher. I was then asked to write for the building trade press, hence the Professional Builder shirt, because I gained a broad knowledge of the industry and that lead me to attend countless training courses. I was then approached by LBC radio and went on to have a Saturday morning radio show for 15 years. During this time I worked on Watchdog, Rogue Traders and several other television programmes. Then I moved onto videos and RU-vid. If I had 'stuck to plumbing' I may well have died of boredom, certainly my life would have been a lot less interesting (for me) and I would have been a lot poorer. So, my well meaning friend, thank you for your advice but forgive me if I decline it.

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