STUDY THE BIBLE WITH ME...The book of Job 

Also to humble us. I mean when God talks about how the eagles fly to Job because of His understanding, when being compared to humans, we can't literally fly like we are considered the best of His creation yet we are below the eagles that can fly. The birds can literally shit on us haha. Edit: Also there is no 'good' people. Only God is good.

-To test us, too

To F us more like.

@Hallie Coverett thank you for your 4 dash points I read them and I will have to read them 2 more times. Thank you

@@chevychelios4672 Oh your comment was funny the bird can sh* lol but I do understand your point and that god is god

That is absolutely true!

AMEN

Or things that you read a million times has new meaning becuase a new stage or a new situation in life. It’s a guide book!!!

did it work for you?

If I am mistaken you mentioned Elihu as one of Jobs friend. I just wanted to make a correction that Elihu was in fact not his friend, his 3 friends were Zophar, Bildad, Eliphaz. This was a great synopsis though. Thank you for sharing! Peace with you!

How has that been going for you?

Ash E really well, I’ve been reading small portions of the Bible everyday and journaling when I can, I really love it!

@@britneykimball7492 That is awesome! I've tried several times to read any book in the Bible and I've failed. I couldn't understand a word of it, but a few weeks ago God called me to minister. I've felt His call before, but I was stuck in this world and didn't want to. Well, I can no longer, and no longer want to, ignore His call. Two weeks ago I prayed and told Him I will answer the call and when I opened the Bible I could understand! I've been shown more in the last 2 weeks than in my entire life. It truly is miraculous. I just pray that you keep going. I feel like dancing when I hear the word and that others want to hear it too! God bless you, Britney!

Wow, thank you!

It is about maintaining relationships despite the most difficult times.

Don't be afraid of the Old Testament, remember Jesus is in every book, He is the WORD of God made flesh. Every feast is about Him and every story describes the character (name) of Jesus. Start with Esther or Ruth, these are love stories about Jesus and His bride. See if you can find the symbolism.

thank you so much! that makes me so happy

The Bible project is EXCELLENT! It gave me life! Spoken Gospel is great too because it uses actors to tell the story for more depth. Lastly, The Beat (Allen Par on RU-vid). He put it in a way that is relatable. There are also great lectures out there that goes verse by verse. I am learning and very excited so excuse me. Blessings

i would start in the book of john if you have never read before because that is when Jesus talks alot and is performing alot of mircales :) glad you are here!

@@CelestRayanneMann ❤❤❤

Same here 😩

How did it go?🤓

All suffering is caused by sin. Sin literally means miss the mark/point. Sin is not God's will because it's against God's will. Remember that first humans could choose NOT to eat the forbidden fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil? According to Genesis God's will is to give the earth to rule as command for humans. God's will is to create the universe and to multiply and to enjoy everything in it and to warn Adam/Eve not to eat the forbidden fruit. We are supposed to live forever in God's presence, but because the curse of sin, we now live with sickness in our mind and body and heart to death. We're supposed not to know the concept of good and evil. But then Adam/Eve disobeyed the Lord by listening to the devil. Remember God's warned them, they could choose NOT to eat the fruit, but they chose to eat it. They've sinned, they're against God's will. Still God is good, He planned the salvation from sin since the beginning and to put enmity to the devil so humans know how God loves us all.

@@chevychelios4672 you are right. The first sin was disobeying God by eating from the tree God said not to. After that was the sin of murder with Cain and Abel. Before long much of the world was given over to sin so that God sent a flood, making a covenant with Noah to never do the same again. What I was concerned about is as a Christian in daily life, can we look at people who are clearly suffering and say that it's caused by sin, therefore they deserve it? As a Christian wholly committed to following the Lord and feeling persecuted in the world, would we first look to see if we sinned, and deserve It? Job in the beginning of the story was concerned that one of his sons may have sinned, so he offered burnt offerings to God. Does this match the Christian life, or do we not all fall short at times? To take it a step further, Jesus entered the world free from sin because he never sinned. Yet he was crucified and suffered more than can be imagined. Unless you believe Jesus deserved to be crucified, A sin and suffering cause and effect model isn't a reliable way to explain why some people suffer and other people dont. If we believe Jesus had no sin, then what caused his suffering? We literally have God's gace, and what a wonderful God we have.

@@chevychelios4672 Then did Paul end up in jail for sinning? Or how about Joseph, was it for his own sins? Maybe they and Job were being tested? God says it is righteous if when we DON'T sin and are punished, we endure. But if we suffer, FOR DOING GOOD, we are pleasing Him. Isn't this what Job did? He endured!

In the beginning of the book of Job God is boasting to Satan about how great Job is. He was righteous and a servant to the Lord. There was no need for God to take away anything from him. But Satan wanted to question Job, and he thought he only served God because God blessed him with all those things including health. And in the End Job never cursed God, even after losing his family and Health. I believe the point of this story being in the Bible is to show us that the Battle against Sin and Satan and our Flesh has nothing to do with what’s in our physical world. It’s about the spiritual realm that all the fighting is happening. Jobs primary Focus was on God and that’s what the Bible says, if we keep our focus on God and serve him all our battles are won. Even if everything around you is falling if you keep your eyes on him and do what he desires of you, You will be standing at the end. So again I believe this is to show us that our battles are in the spirit, and the strength we gain from God is to win the spiritual battles. Satan also thought Job should give in since he lost everyone he cares for and cares about. And obviously Job was in pure agony because he lost his family. He had every right to be. But he still never cursed God. *One Last Thing* Yes those were people that had to lose their lives so one man could get tested. God allowed Satan to go that far. This is the only reason why God showed his power. To show us that we don’t and cannot see the full picture. Us as humans cannot fully understand why God allows and does what he does. He allows disease and war and just bad people to roam this earth and it’s all ultimately the plan of God regardless of how we see it. God asks us to have faith in him. And all day it’s easy to have faith that it’s his will to give us the strength to get through a tough day but then it’s really hard to have faith that it his will when a family member is in a car accident and holding on to stay alive. We have no idea what battle is going on in the spiritual realm. We have no idea what God is protecting us from and what our Guardian angels are fighting off for us. We just have to trust Gods will. And God will always provide for us in the end. That’s what this book is talking about

Job is a decent man but doesn't walk with God ,he uses god as a vending machine, good deeds plus burned offerings =blessings. It doesn't work that way ,that's why god have Satan do his thing

This what made us all wonder why didn't he give him at least answers

@@messianic_scam in the end god explains it ,mostly by saying job wouldn't understand because is is greater and does things his way.

As does every undeserving sinner saved by His grace, only infinity-fold in the next life!

It doesn't change the fact that God murdered all 10 of of Jobs children in cold blood. Just because you apologize for an act doesn't mean it makes it right. If anyone else did it that person would be vilified

The devil already knows how rong he is. His only purpose is to find rest in others/human suffering! Please try again..

it's a story to show that humans are designed to glorify God in all circumstances because of Who He is for us...not just when life is good. The true testing of faith in our Father!

@@CelestRayanneMann This is an awesome response, "not just when life is good." I had a really hard time when I started my walk with God because I actually would wander off during the "good times," but if things got rough or scary I would run back and cry for help. I found this was Israel's response to through most of the Bible. But just today I was studying Exodus, and how many times Pharaoh hardened his heart, and God hardened Pharaoh's heart. I realized Pharaoh was doing the same thing I was, but it's called HARDENING your HEART!! Scary, remaining doing things our way and continuing in breaking God's Laws without REPENTING and following Jesus, is called HARDENING your HEART.

I agree with you and will take it one step further. Job was innocent and praised god. God kills his children and then some (i.e., allows the devil to do so in a bet), when Job did no wrong, but when Job asked 'why,' god shows how powerful he is? Really? He shows Job why he should be afraid and kneel before him? And Christian find this story to be moral and just? "But he got more children afterwards, so Job can forget the children that was killed by the 'awesome power of the all powerful loving god." Give me a break. This is simply nonsense and Christian are forced to do mental gymnastics to explain the murder of innocent children. MURDERING INNOCENT CHILDREN, PEOPLE!!!! How perverted do Christians have to be to find this story good and moral. It's no wonder Catholics remained Catholics even after finding out that their priests, for decades, were raping children, but the church's leaders use their money & power to silence the victims and protect the pedophiles by simply moving them elsewhere where they repeated these heinous crimes. Hmmm, I believe that Christians would go back to sacrificing children on an altar if they believed it was god's will.

​@@richardrodriguez9229 That would be ignoring the entire message of the Bible. No real Christian is going to sacrifice a person or an animal. Christ was the final sacrificial lamb.

His ten sons and his possessions were actually kept safe close by during his trials. His sons, servants and animals were actually driven out of their home and in hiding rather than killed. Life as they knew it died. Like pre and post Covid 19. The separation from his children was a death in itself. G-d agrees with Satan’s requests to test Iyov on multiple occasions after G-d spoke highly of Iyov’s kindness and righteousness but does not allow the Satan to lay a hand on him nor is he permitted to kill him. By killing Iyov’s children, it would intrinsically kill Iyov as well, killing of the soul from being deprived of his life, his children. The Satan is a type of prosecutor and brings challenges to a person for them to overcome, for the person to choose to do good, free will. Satan goes after his possessions, his life and his body. Satan even confronts Iyov face to face while he was in peace and threatens his life while working. Iyov was extremely vigilant, and was not sure that he would come home alive day after day however still trusting G-d. He knew he was destined to the sword, this decree of darkness. Iyov has a relationship and trust in G-d and was ready to use his sword if in danger of being attacked. Iyov would have fought for his life, putting his life in danger by defending G-d. Satan was unsuccessful in his claim that Iyov would give up everything in order to save his own life. G-d becomes upset with Satan telling him that he harmed Iyov for no good reason. Iyov has a great life and Satan wants to see if Iyov will curse G-d if everything is taken away from him and claims man has no real value. Iyov has suffered this extreme pain of losing his children, wife, friends for over a year, under the influence of the Satan. He is even taken to court on false accusations but proved his loyalty by his trust in G-d, G-d was also there for him in this moment by allowing his presence to reveal itself. Iyov saw this as a sign of loyalty from Hashem. Iyov demands an answer from G-d on why he is suffering after such a long time without an answer, Iyov suffered in silence nobody helped him. G-d explains to Iyov that he is a righteous man and no he did not do anything wrong and no he did not deserve this. Everything comes from G-d, G-d put Iyov through this intense pain for the purpose for Iyov to realize that there is nobody to turn to but G-d. Iyov realizes his mistake, his relationship with G-d was based on “deal making”. I do this for you, you do this for me. This is business, not a relationship. Iyov begs G-d for forgiveness and realizes how selfish he was realizing how little he really understands. We are not in control of the things that happen to us however we are in control of how we respond, our choices. Iyov prays for the mercy of his peers that the harmful inevitable decrees be lifted for blaming the victim. Iyov suffered so much that he couldn’t bare to allow his friends and wife to suffer even after all of the pain they caused him. G-d then forgave Iyov when his children and family returned to him and he was blessed. Iyov teaches us that every tear counts, as long as it is used for clarity, it is purposeful.

That's adultery

@@562mjohnson How is that adultery?

@@1981lashlarue he is lusting over her in his mind.

@@562mjohnson I don't know how you equate that from that statement. That's a presumption on your part. Acknowledging someone's beauty or saying you find someone attractive does not equate to lusting.

@@1981lashlarue when you start with the word "damn" I beg to differ.

Wow opened my eyes thank you

So what, the exact passage says "There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was blameless and upright, and one who feared God and shunned evil." My question to you is how does good works make you faithful to God? doesn't Jesus say and Paul write that good works dont save us? You can a good life and still miss the point of the Gospel. In mathew 7:21-23 it states "Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness."In ephesians it says "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast." Just doing good actions doesn't mean that your faithful to God nor doing God's will. If don't believe me that Job is just doing good works then lets compare to another rightous man in Genesis whose name is Noah. In Genesis 6:9 it says that "Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation. Noah walked with God. Now lets compare Job 1:1 with Genesis 6:9. If we do that we see that both are blameless men but only one walked with God. Now I am not trying to make the case that Job was doing bad things but I am trying to look pass the action and look at the motive. In Job 1:5 it states"And when the days of the feast had run their course, Job would send and consecrate them, and he would rise early in the morning and offer burnt offerings according to the number of them all. For Job said, “It may be that my children have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts.” Thus Job did continually." Though it gives subtle infrence you must realize that Job is not relying on the realtionship he was walking with God, but instead relying only on works and scrafices he is offering up . The mindset is what if my children die and don't have all their sins paid for. God will not be appeased I better make enough sacrafices and offerings so they can make it into heaven. Now Job wants to follow God but he thinks it is about he does to earn Gods grace and blessings. It is not about walking with God lke Abarham and Noah but more about appeasing God with works and sacrafices which we already went over won't get you into heavan.I mean look at Abarham he barley knows God but believes in God which Paul points out that is the reason that Abarham is righteous, because he has earned faith by grace and not works like Job.Now I guess you may point out the end of Job when it says " Then Job arose and tore his robe and shaved his head and fell on the ground and worshiped. And he said, “Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked shall I return. The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord. In all this Job did not sin or charge God with wrong.” Now it may seem moral to do this but I would to fight against this because if Job truly is faithful why isn't he asking God what happend, and why he was punished? Another qusetion would be why isn't Job talking to God ? If you look at the text he is only talking about God and not being faithful in talking to God for help and only about God for help.If Job is truly faithful like you proclaim than why not talk to God if he walks with him. Now lets go to chapter 2 of the book of Job. Satan comes back and gives Job sores "Then his wife said to him, “Do you still hold fast your integrity? Curse God and die.” But he said to her, “You speak as one of the foolish women would speak. Shall we receive good from God, and shall we not receive evil?” In all this Job did not sin with his lips" I find quite intresting that it says Job did not sin with his lips. I mean we went from not charging God to not sining with his lips why not repeat the phrase that God didn't charge God with wrong. The reason? something diffrent has happend to Job and this is seen in chapter 3 “Let the day perish on which I was born, and the night that said, ‘A man is conceived.’ Let that day be darkness! May God above not seek it, nor light shine upon it. Let gloom and deep darkness claim it. Let clouds dwell upon it; let the blackness of the day terrify it." In seems Jobs wants death over life wouldn't you say. One might even say that chapter 3 of Job is a love letter to death, and its funny because in Proverbs 8 verse 36 it stats"All who hat me love death." If the bible teaches God is life then to reject life is to accept death. Now this case destroys what your saying because if Job is not faithful and God is all knowing then this is the only way to make Job faithful, and if Job is not faithful than Job needed a lesson not the devil. The devil has no chance because the devil though wants hell understands what it is and wants to stay away from thefore a logical wouldn't waste there time teaching the devil if this God is all knowing. Now you maybe confused on hell then check this video out ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tiYf6ITgWbk.html. My point is Job must be faithful in order for your case to make sense. Also if the devil were destroyed how would that fix anything. It wouldn't you must philosiphical assumption that all evil is in affect because of the devil instead that it is in affect because of love just like how darkness is an affect from light. As a matter of fact the devil was right in saying that Job wasn't loyal to God but only loyal because of the gifts he reiceved read Job again and notice how he falls apart as everything is taken away from him. I hope this helps somehow and nice comment by the way I thought is was cool that you capitialized God.

@@user-oh9fh8rp8c this is a lot to read. Allow me a moment to read and respond. Thanks

@@user-oh9fh8rp8c I have a question for you. Is God omniscient?

@@user-oh9fh8rp8c Yes because before you go to court agree with your adversary. Then Jesus blood will plead your case against the adversary the accuser of your faith. Job didn’t quite know of the mediator (Jesus) when he argued his case against God and his righteousness, which we know are like filthy rags according to God. Even though he was righteous in many of his ways he still wasn’t aware of the true power of God and his supreme rulership and his mysterious ways because he’s only a man, therefore Job later realized I thought I knew your ways and what you require but now I know you in a whole different level and all I can do is trust you and continue to know you through my time on this earth.

i take it as a cosmic battle or id war between Godly id and enemy thought forms in the unconscious mind. And its earthly righteous mind and its manifestations can be victim of it. by the way im still at 13th chapter. if you look at the story in a religious way, you probably wont be either satistied or those so called academic priests or plainly faitful christians satisfy you deeply.

Yes when u look at it in your eyes it does seem worst. Think of it as spiritual Job was put to the test. He knew that he loved the lord and did nothing wrong. Bad things do happen. What do u do when they happen is the question? You still trust God to see you through it. You know that no weapon formed against you shall prosper. So u believe and have faith that God will give u double for your trouble. This book is an example of how God can bless you even in the middle of a mess. Trust the process. Hope this helps.

We too quickly assume, because we caught the conversation between God and Satan in the opening narrative, that we know why Job was undergoing this trial. We would be wrong, the conversation may have initiated the trials but the purposes that God had behind the trials were much bigger than that, Satan too was just a pawn in the plan. God was bringing to humankind the understanding that trumps the simplistic idea that bad things happen to bad people. Job was right, he was a righteous man and he wasn't being punished for sins, past or future. Amongst the purposes of God in Job's suffering was, Job being brought to an understanding of redemptive suffering, an after-life theology and the need for an intermediary and redeemer. This book is such an amazing prelude to the incarnation, suffering and redeeming work of Jesus. Dr. Duane Garrett

thank you so much!

God didn't torture him all that was Satan doing

@@brigitteshungu5827 no. Satan tempted god to torture job. Read the bible.

SaRCasm princess no, Satan was the one torturing Job but God gave him permission, God even told satan not to kill him.

@@yomansprince8486 not true. And to humor you, God knew job was tortured and he let it happen. He is an accomplice.

SaRCasm princess u said it urself “he let it happen” that means satan was the one torturing Job and God let it happened lol Job 1:12 “Very well, everything he owns is in your power, however do not lay a hand on him, so satan left thr lord’s presence” -This verse tells u that God gave permission to satan to test Job’s faith