STW #60: Razor Ramon 

Nobody was cooler than Razor Ramon when I was growing up. RIP.

When I saw him all fucked up in a wheel chair I almost cried. When I found out he's clean and healthy and walking around I did. So fuckin happy for Scott.

Considering the amount of traveling wrestling folks do, it’s amazing that they can always remember what city they were in when recalling specific events.

I was laughing my ass off when I learned that the Razor Ramon vignette in the Cuban restaurant was shot at a place called tacos Guadalajara in Stamford Connecticut. Wow that's priceless

I’ve never thought of Razor as a drug dealer for a second of my life.

Love Bruce's Vince McMahon inpression it's dead on

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He gave the IC belt to a terminally ill child.... That's the coolest thing ever! Class act= S. Hall.

Razor Ramon is one of the most underrated workers. He gets all his flaws magnified but no one gives him the props he deserves. Great in ring worker and helped get the careers of 123 Kid/X-pac, Justin Credible , the Hardy Boys and when was told to go over on Jericho but instead he told Jericho to pin him. But none of that ever gets talked about.

Scott and I have the same Defibrillator Pacemaker implant. It’s titanium and stopped a bullet one time for a guy who was shot. Keeps us alive too. I showed him my scar and without even telling him, he knew what it meant and showed me his lol. One of my favorite wrestlers as a kid. I didn’t make the Scarface connection until I saw the movie as a teen. I’m 35 now.

Bruce Prichard's Jim Cornette impression is perfect. It's what the best impressions always should be: Sounds absolutely nothing like the subject, but is definitive nonetheless because it captures their spirit totally.

Let's pay a well-deserved tribute to The Bad Guy

Man I've always liked Razor's ring music! Oh and I always liked when Ted DiBiase called Scott Razor Jabrone! LOL!

Wow bro. You know all the dates. Lovely podcast. All respect to you

I love Bruce's Michael PS Hayes impressions as well.

According to a Scott interview, he talked to Vince about getting a belt, Vince said, the belt goes to people who need help getting over, you don’t have any trouble there and people care about you regardless of if a title is involved or not, so let’s leave the belt for the guys who need the extra pop... Scott says that always stayed with him and he looked at the belt differently after that, never had a desire to get it after that because he kinda looked at it like a crutch. If you ever see an interview with him, when asked, he always says, I didn’t get it because I never needed to have it to draw. Class guy, I drank beer with him several times after shows. Was always extremely polite and nice to fans like me and my friends when he had absolutely no reason to. He actually introduced me to several other wrestlers. Underrated is a word commonly used because he was the total package and honestly should have had the strap forced on him a time or two for legacy sake. People put a lot of emphasis on a world title in a profession that is scripted, seems kinda stupid to base a persons impact on something like that.

Razor should've been world champ imo. In terms of character and his ability as worker, Razor could and would have made for a great WWF champion.

"You guys know who I am, but you don't know why I'm here"

To this day I think Razor Ramon/Scott Hall is the best I-C champ of all time.

@1:44:30 I about spit out my coffee listening to Bruce's Michael Hayes impersonation lol

"what does razor do for a living on the streets of miami?"........ retail and wholesale ass whoopins.

CLASSIC fucking intro music. When he was a baby face and you heard those tires screech the crowd went NUTS. he was super over and I believe would have had a world title run if Kevin Nash hadn't come in at that specific time with his size and stature without steroids, also getting a lot of rub from shawn Michaels in the back. That sould have been razor's spot.

Uhhh, the wildcard survivor series match was awesome and one of my all time favorite Survivor Series matches.

My all time favorite wrestling character! Unfortunately his personal demons got in the way. He would have been a great world champion.

Those impressions are the best... Plus the southern accents tops it off

The impressions are top notch.

I picture Scott asking Vince if he ever saw Scar face and Vince telling Scott yes, but thinking he was talking about the George Raft version from the 30s and thinking that's what his gimmick would be based on lol

Scott Hall is easily top 3 best wrestlers to never hold the world title.... its a shame what ended up happening cause he could have gone down as one of the greats of all time had he been clean during his prime

1:07:50. "Goddamn he can speak Portuguese, we need the Portuguese market!!!!" Lol

One of the greatest characters in WWF history..

I must've clicked the wrong video...I thought this was a video about razor not Shawn Michael's... smh still love the show you guys are great 👍 ❤ 💙

Great entertainment for a podcast

Kind of crazy that Vince wouldn't just give Scott the money he wanted and he had to go to WCW to get it. It is extremely difficult to find someone that had his overall skill, I mean their was no weaknesses in his game at all. Wasn't Vince already closing in on billionaire status by the mid to late 90s. As a kid, Razor was my number one favorite to watch, everything he did from his punches to his finisher just looked real and he was so believeable much more so then the other top guys at the time and I can only wonder if guys like Luger were making more then him when it was obvious to anyone with a brain that Scott was worth so much to the company. To lose a talent like that for money is crazy, I can see if he is injured, drug or personal problems ruining him and its effecting his performance, but just to save a buck. That being said if Vince gave him the raise, the whole nWo would have never been a thing and my all time favorite time in wrestling would have ceased to exist.

"By god look at him, he's a Dean!...... and a Douglass!"

To correct Bruce about Sid at Summerslam 95. Sid hadn't gone home for softball and was actually watching the Ladder Match on a monitor backstage and actually faced Shawn in a losing effort the next night on Raw. I understand Bruce's thinking as Sid was liable to have done that but this time Sid was not gullty.

Scott Hall considered Louie a friend and liked having him as his sidekick in wcw

rip scott thanks for everything :(

Bruce is a bit off with some of the details here. In regards to the telegram that Razor sent to Vince... he was required to send a notice by telegram 90 days before his contract ended or it would automatically roll-over. This wasn't Razor being a jerk. It was required. Also, Razor had met face-to-face with Vince on several occasions. He asked him for a guaranteed contract. He asked for a bump in pay. He asked if he could have a few days off to work in Japan for extra money. He even met with Vince one last time to ask him if he could match WCW's offer. Hall took every possible step to stay on good terms with WWE.

I'm sensing a theme here. If its a dumb idea, its Cornette or Watts. Anything good or "acceptable" its Prichard. And no one tells the truth but Bruce and Vince.

Bad times don't last but bad guys do

Rest in Paradise to one of the greatest, coolest, and "Bad Guy" characters of all time. No one is perfect, and we've all done and said things we regret. But if our legacies remain positive and impactful, you'll be remembered and revered forever. #ripscotthall #razorramon #restininpeace #restinparadise #hardworkpaysoffdreamscometruebadtimesdontlastbutbadguysdo #thebadguy #nwo #wwe #wcw #nwa #awa #pwg #njpw #ajpw #professionalwrestling #sportsentertainment #rudow

if razor had stayed in wwf he would no doubt have become champion. instead of shawn and sid changing hands, it would have been shawn and razor, and they probably would have had a 3rd ladder match to prove who was the best. on the other hand, no nwo if razor had stayed. i think he got too relaxed in wcw, midcard getting paid like the main event, he didn't really need nor care to push for a title shot

Bruce seemed a little touchy about the day of the curtain call. Hall didn't say he got the bad guy out, he said the fans said the Bad Guy at the end. Love the show regardless brother! I'm as much of a mark for Bruce as much as I am a mark for Razor and Diesel

One of the best gimmicks ever

HEY YO. Scott Hall never getting the big strap is a damn travesty. Doesn't really seem like it bothers him one bit tho. Super cool these days.

Listened to some of these twice by mistake

That intro is 🔥🔥🔥

It is disrespectful to say Shawn had a 5 star match with a ladder. Not saying he's an amazing athlete and that he's a much better worker than Razor, but Hall was really good to and always willing to job. This gimmick was great. They make like Hall did nothing in the ladder match. I wouldn't have a problem with people saying Shawn was the star and came off better than Hall even though he lost, but saying that makes it sound like Hall was a bum. If I was Scott Hall I would be pissed. They can say they're not disparaging him, but what if someone said something about you at your job, etc.

Geez, Conrad just can't get enough of Meltzers nuts.

R. I. P Scott Hall... Changed the wrestling Landscape with Nash in 96

Whose theme is playing around 1:13:00 during the t-shirt plug?

I never really thought of the Razor Ramon character as being a drug dealer.

scarface is 1 of my favorite movies aswell as the thing loved the razor character should had world title run thou missed opportunity i loved the survivor series match meltzer sucks crap

I love u guys. I used to love pro wrestling, watched it through the hogan era. And the attitude era, through to about jbl/edges reign. Then I was out. Cena turned me off too. They won’t give the belt to a black guy. But to a fake black guy they will. But anyway, I really enjoy hearing all the behind the scenes stuff. And how Vince thinks. And Conrad is the prefect questioner, and Bruce was there for many great wrestling eras. Keep up the good job guys

He should of had the belt a few times scott hall is underrated

Never won a world title or even was in a royal rumble match. Still my favorite wrestler right up there with Austin and HBK for me.

Look razor changed what wrestling was to what we know it today as in the way of guarantee money and multiyear contracts for said amount of money ... once he set that up with wcw and nash followed with his contract after that vince had to start the same thing to keep his talent and thus started the crazy amount of money the top guys get... and not only that he had the very first angle on the 3rd raw with 123 kid witch in a way started the weekly storylines on raw . Rather then it just being a televised house show ... and so on .....razor really did alot for what wrestling was in the late 90s and early 2000s in regards to the business aspect of it and essentially changed the way guys get paid and get locked in to contracts

The fact that most people are arguing whether TO or Moss is better shows you that he's at least one of the top 5 receivers of all time, being that Moss is widely regarded as 2nd best behind Rice.

2:37 Bruce told a hot lie! We all heard "say good-bye to the bad guy"

Well the ladder match was a cool thing that did not start in wwe it was Stampede that started it

I always felt that the clique held Hall back. He was more over than Shawn or Diesel and I guess out of some feeling of loyalty, he let them have the main events. I waited several years for Hall to get a due push in the WCW, but instead he played Nash’s Beefcake, despite Nash being a lazy, boring, one-trick pony who happened to be a little taller than Hall. If I recall, there was even a time when Hall won some sort of rumble in the WCW, which was supposed to determine the next challenger for the heavyweight title against Hogan, but Hall (kayfabe) turned it down to keep the NWO pecking order intact. That really bummed me out, because I hate Hogan and he was boring.

Prayers for Scott Hall.

Actually I’m not the least bit surprised that McMahon has never seen Scarface. That dude lives, breathes, eats, sleeps, dreams, cries, and loves only Wrestling 24/7 365 and nothing else interests him.

I think I prefer the time from 1992 to 1996 for WWF over the Attitude Era.

*Donovan "Razor" Ruddock* likely gets credit for the "Razor"...... and *Tito Santana* gets credit for the "Ramon". (Not to mention you had "Tokka" and "Rahzar" in the movie *Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2* in 1991 and *ACDC* releasing their album "The Razor's Edge" in September 1990.) All the pieces were falling into place to make "razor" the most popular nickname at the time.

I'm gonna day it. I liked the wild card match from survivor series 95! I enjoyed the concept. Just saying

Classic

Conrad mentioned Bret having a problem with a finish with Diesel at Survivor Series but I had heard after watching a Kevin Nash video was it was actually at In Your House when Bret Hart fought Diesel in the cage. it lead to Undertaker vs Diesel at Wrestlemania with Undertaker actually saying to Bret this isn't always about you

RIP Razor

In defense of the clique , No they didn’t like Bam Bam, but from every interview I’ve heard with those guys individually they all say they kind of started hating him because he hated them first. And even though they admit they didn’t like the guy back then, later on in WCW Bam Bam did get along with Kevin Nash and Scott hall just fine, I have heard Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, and the kid all in separate interviews say that even though they didn’t like the guy that he definitely belonged in the WWF because he was one of the best workers in the business.

The irony of saying a worker leaving is like his kids leaving....Shane got fired like it was nothing.

douglas vs Razor rematch did take place on RAW... just sayin' conrad

1:01:27 I live in WV about an hour away from Beckley and that Corny impression almost killed me, I mean it legit took me 12 minutes to calm down enough to listen on!

I never looked at that Flair comment as an insult to Razor

Conrad gets the fucking W for that introduction. Kuuuuudoos Big Guy. I owe you a beer when this is all over.

Conrad was getting a little grumpy at about the halfway point. He sounded a bit tired. Him cutting off Bruce during one of his gimmicks was kinda funny. :-)

Say goodbye to the bad guy 😢☹️ RIP Scott Hall

I now know why it takes forever to win ladder matches in video games

I LOVE THE CORNETTE IMPRESSION LOL ESPECIALLY THE 'MOTHERFUCKA' VOICE

RIP Scott Hall... Razor Ramon

They play his ecw theme ….. ready or not

razor's theme is the best theme ever in professional wrestling history

Why does WWE recognise Double J regaining the Intercontinental championship from Razor as being May 22nd when it happened on May 21st?

Rest in peace Scott.

Scott had his demons that is for sure. Razor was a great star in wrestling. I think losing Razor and Diesel was the first big blow in the Monday Night Wars. When he gave his 90 day notice, I think Vince was petty as fuck cause he didn't want to lose Scott to WCW. Conrad is right 2+2=4. He was the bad guy who had great matches as Razor Ramon. Bruce is right, Razor giving his 90 day notice and jump shipped to WCW sure did light a fire under his ass.

i cant find this on that dumb peacock site savage and flair wit razor on prime time

Hey Chico!!!

Say Hello to the Bad Guy ! 👋😀

RIP

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RIP to the Baddddd Guyyyy

The Scarface of wrestling. 💯💯💯

Rest In peace Scott hall aka the bad guy 🙏

Alot of shit going down on all kinds of May 19ths! Does Kane lose his shit when he listens to this episode?

Hey YO !

Don't take a dig at Vince Conrad for knowing what a centaur is because it was a minotaur lol not a centaur

the way conway got scared when bruce said dick murdoch was a kkk member 😂

400K to 270k. gee why would he ever leave the WWF???

When it comes yo the kliq and Bam Bam. Nash, Hall, and X-pac have said nothing but good things about Bam Bam. But im sure HBK hated him and was jealous of WM11.

Unfortunately, it's time to say RIP to the Bad Guy.