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@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 2 месяца назад
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@hkguitar1984
@hkguitar1984 2 месяца назад
Great job GS
@tmytyson
@tmytyson 2 месяца назад
You're getting closer, but you can still do Battle of the Canards: A dogfight battle royale featuring (at a minimum) the SU30SM Flanker-H, Dassault Rafale, Eurofighter Typhoon, and JAS39 Gripen. We have the technology!
@khuadedadkasi6425
@khuadedadkasi6425 2 месяца назад
Can you do a BVR using SD-10 missile.
@numberyellow
@numberyellow 2 месяца назад
NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns and missles plzkthx SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns only plzkthx
@allaltitudeproductions
@allaltitudeproductions Месяц назад
Day 59 asking for F-22 vs 10 MiG 21
@Dusther210
@Dusther210 2 месяца назад
GS: “Imagine if you scale this up” The ball is in your court sir
@kipweit9634
@kipweit9634 2 месяца назад
I don't get it, can someone explain
@bluecaptainIT
@bluecaptainIT 2 месяца назад
​@@kipweit9634it means: "You're the one who can make it happen"
@kipweit9634
@kipweit9634 2 месяца назад
@@bluecaptainIT thanks sir
@aamp84
@aamp84 2 месяца назад
The Rafale is such a gorgeous plane.
@Ravenola
@Ravenola 2 месяца назад
I do not think you know what gorgeous means. :)
@shounak2022
@shounak2022 2 месяца назад
Was
@Netbug
@Netbug 2 месяца назад
Yup.
@wtcb7892
@wtcb7892 2 месяца назад
Well it’s French, so surprised it doesn’t fly in reverse 😂
@TOMCATnbr
@TOMCATnbr 2 месяца назад
​@@Ravenolahe know perfectly.
@georgeantabi6025
@georgeantabi6025 2 месяца назад
In this sort of fight even if the Su-30 lost the fight simply the fact that the other side lost an AWACS, (which is the most valuable aerial target you can destroy) it is a much bigger blow to the "winners" side.
@roadiewcam
@roadiewcam 2 месяца назад
That's because GS set it up that way. Did no one else notice OPFOR did absolutely nothing until the E3 was hit? Do you think a real life unit would see a hostile contact intercepting their AWACS and not move to intercept until after the AWACS catches a missile?
@user-sx6no1pj5r
@user-sx6no1pj5r Месяц назад
@@roadiewcam THE METEOR IS NOT IN RANGE PRO THAY CAN NOT DO ANY THING
@HanksDeuce
@HanksDeuce 2 месяца назад
SAD RAFALE NOISES @12:16. LOL
@littlefire47
@littlefire47 2 месяца назад
This had me on the floor laughing
@FVUX_HAMMER95
@FVUX_HAMMER95 2 месяца назад
‘Merde’
@hoilst265
@hoilst265 2 месяца назад
*Le sad Rafale noises.
@aarontheaviationaddict3643
@aarontheaviationaddict3643 2 месяца назад
**cries in French**
@tufftrucker40
@tufftrucker40 2 месяца назад
As much as i hate to admit...those russian flankers are just a beautiful beast. So sleek and just vicious looking.
@tangow371
@tangow371 2 месяца назад
I completely agree with the vicious part
@alexchivilev
@alexchivilev 2 месяца назад
Agreed flankers are cool. Not as cool as f-14, but second or maybe third place 😊
@Pikilloification
@Pikilloification 2 месяца назад
Why would you hate to admit it?
@opanasovych_svirid
@opanasovych_svirid 2 месяца назад
​@@Pikilloification Because he isn't vatnik
@traviswalker8933
@traviswalker8933 2 месяца назад
​@@Pikilloification Ukrainian bias.
@outrider425
@outrider425 2 месяца назад
1 Su 30 vs 10 F4s
@mikaelengdal5404
@mikaelengdal5404 2 месяца назад
Yes!
@AlanThree001
@AlanThree001 2 месяца назад
1 Su-30 vs 50 Sopwith Camel, guns only.
@1v1rajang85
@1v1rajang85 2 месяца назад
Single handedly got me into DCS, you sir are a legend.
@DaysOfFlightSim351
@DaysOfFlightSim351 2 месяца назад
Video request: F104 vs F4
@Patrick-zr8tv
@Patrick-zr8tv 2 месяца назад
F4 wins
@Chevalmuffin
@Chevalmuffin 2 месяца назад
We need to see more rafale
@angahcheah5125
@angahcheah5125 2 месяца назад
F-15E vs Su-30Sm BVR mode
@SourSix
@SourSix 2 месяца назад
"It's too fat, it's too slow, it's too high." TIL I'm an AWACs.
@Xaunoki
@Xaunoki 2 месяца назад
"Sad Rafale Noises" lol I love the new sound effect on the incoming missiles! Builds anticipation. 15:54
@ironnads7975
@ironnads7975 2 месяца назад
That's nothing new
@Xaunoki
@Xaunoki 2 месяца назад
@@ironnads7975 Sure thing Jack
@sommtakes
@sommtakes 2 месяца назад
I want to see you fly the Rafale
@modelskunkworks
@modelskunkworks 2 месяца назад
I don't under stand how the AWACS didn't see the Su-30 coming and direct the Rafales to intercept, they did nothing till the AWACS was a fireball.
@aaronstaeven312
@aaronstaeven312 2 месяца назад
yeah, apparently SU-30 has a more powerful radar than an AWACS 😁
@viswajitbala7924
@viswajitbala7924 2 месяца назад
@@aaronstaeven312Guess the AWACS didn’t care. They wouldn’t expect a hypersonic coming in from 400km away, so they probably deemed it as non threatening.
@tunisiandom9318
@tunisiandom9318 2 месяца назад
They were going towards him. it was 250km range kill ... Rafales can literally do nothing. Only way to survive there is not have the AWACS fly within 300km of the 30. it's not like they were flying in the same direction as the Su-30 and got hit in the back.
@wallingnaga6563
@wallingnaga6563 2 месяца назад
And what will the Rafale or the AWACS do at 150 miles away ?? The Rafale’s meteor is around 70/80 miles only .
@AB-yn2rz
@AB-yn2rz Месяц назад
@@wallingnaga6563 They could've shot down the R37M using the meteor when it got close to their AWACS.
@michagysin3082
@michagysin3082 2 месяца назад
Thank you so much for these videos!!!
@milkmunstr
@milkmunstr 2 месяца назад
YES!!!! i've been waiting sooooo long to get a Rafale video. it very rarely gets to make an appearance here
@Dirtyharry70585
@Dirtyharry70585 2 месяца назад
The ralfie shout and both launch to make you defend. Then run hard to you and fire again.
@Yonada
@Yonada 2 месяца назад
I am always amazed by your editing and cinematography. Great work, man.
@208SledHead
@208SledHead 2 месяца назад
Did any of those Meteors come close to you?? I am shocked you beat both of those Rafale's! Great video man!!
@Koka2609
@Koka2609 2 месяца назад
One did 11:55
@TankandDimples
@TankandDimples 2 месяца назад
Thank you for ruining this before I watch it. 👍🏼
@Soul97HH
@Soul97HH 2 месяца назад
@@TankandDimples That´s why you read the comments after watching xD
@208SledHead
@208SledHead 2 месяца назад
@@TankandDimples Yea why would you read the comments before watching the video??🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️
@milanvnuk
@milanvnuk 2 месяца назад
I do not understand how the awacs did not saw you,was it turned off? Su30 is a big plane with very big RCS, should be seen on radar at 350km or more.
@marioskenderoski1651
@marioskenderoski1651 Месяц назад
It wa sent a threat at 150 miles away
@Linkeh24
@Linkeh24 2 месяца назад
If it would be something you would consider, I really enjoy seeing the tac-view breakdown of these BVR fights when they're present. There can be a lot of "I think the missile is defeated" and headgames in anticipation of what your bandit will be doing, and I find it really interesting to see how and where missile launches happen, how (and if) they were defeated, and it gives more of a view of the back and forth nature of BVR.
@mattt525
@mattt525 2 месяца назад
SU gosh the SU-30 and the Rafael are such good looking planes😮
@paVlo711
@paVlo711 2 месяца назад
your editing rocks man, we appreciate the effort
@Tubeflux
@Tubeflux Месяц назад
Congratulations, you even got me on the Rafales’ side! Very thrilling video, also well done with the musical score ! Wow! DCS reigns supreme!
@KristianBennett
@KristianBennett 2 месяца назад
You had me at the end. You made me think the rafale shot before you while you waited around for 30 seconds😂
@subjectc7505
@subjectc7505 2 месяца назад
I love the Flanker. So sexy and a beast in the hands of a competent pilot.
@AB-jp2eb
@AB-jp2eb 2 месяца назад
This is my favorite channel. Never thought I’d literally be watching someone else play a game instead of making my own desktop and just playing DCS myself 😂
@sana-cm7oc
@sana-cm7oc 2 месяца назад
Great video. Your editing and transitions are next level.
@Strateg_Divannogo_Legiona
@Strateg_Divannogo_Legiona 2 месяца назад
How long has the R-37 engine been running? And how long Meteor?
@bobstratton101
@bobstratton101 2 месяца назад
What happened to the Meteor? You were 9k+ altitude when it launched on you. Isn't that normally a brown pants situation?
@Shubhabratabanerjee
@Shubhabratabanerjee 2 месяца назад
Most possibly lost lock from the Rafale. The Rafale does have a very weak radar.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 2 месяца назад
Defended it like all the others straight down into a valley
@ralf391
@ralf391 2 месяца назад
You'll never see GS fighting Meteors without enough mountains.
@americanninja9163
@americanninja9163 2 месяца назад
that happens a lot here.
@brandonholmes8485
@brandonholmes8485 2 месяца назад
​@Shubhabratabanerjee where did you hear the Rafale has a weak radar?
@aarontheaviationaddict3643
@aarontheaviationaddict3643 2 месяца назад
Towards the end, I was screaming at the screen when GS was taking too long to fire anything and defend. I was anxiously slamming my palm on the table yelling “SHOOOOOT!!!” as I knew a Meteor was already coming while GS was still waiting.
@user-bb1lz7ft2l
@user-bb1lz7ft2l Месяц назад
Strange, the awacs would have seen the SU30 far before he would have shot a missle, the awacs have ditected those Rafales straight to the threat
@TheGoddamnBacon
@TheGoddamnBacon 2 месяца назад
That silent missile feed is... deafening loud. Great choice in editing.
@BladeKi11a
@BladeKi11a 2 месяца назад
Patiently waiting for GS to drop the BF3 F-18 mission “Going Hunting”
@58Rev
@58Rev 2 месяца назад
AWACS strike was epic, love it when a plan works. Both of these aircraft are beautiful and deadly, it's a treat to watch them scrap.
@Warsmith_Honsou
@Warsmith_Honsou 2 месяца назад
Great fight!
@robjohnson5872
@robjohnson5872 2 месяца назад
It's interesting that the Rafale - which I believe is the second most in-demand fighter plane after the F-35 - can't win with a 2-1 advantage with Meteor Missiles. And can the AWACS not see the incoming missile? Wouldn't it dive as quickly as safely as could be done into thicker air to try to evade? I think our hero is the difference in many of these scenarios. Keep the great content coming!
@ricominor4931
@ricominor4931 2 месяца назад
The AWACS would never be that close.
@shaveridan
@shaveridan 2 месяца назад
Yep, GS is a very good pilot also
@krautworks
@krautworks 2 месяца назад
I can't understand why the Rafale pilots stayed that high up instead of defending like GS did. A pair of Raptors might have been able to pull that off, but Rafales? Sheesh. They could have dodged his *sometimes even blindly fired* missiles by going cold, hitting a notch and / or dropping down low. You know ... defending? But instead, they stayed way up high, super easy to track for any incoming missiles. No wonder they got shot down.
@dfwald4657
@dfwald4657 2 месяца назад
@@krautworks Were they piloted by real pilots? If so, they had no clue how to defend.
@user-ls5zb2dx5j
@user-ls5zb2dx5j 2 месяца назад
Completely not even close to the real thing, and I know that this is just a simulation with many unknown specs about the aircraft, but the AWAC would see the non-stealthy flanker long before the flanker saw it, little lone be that close to the flanker, or the Rafales not seeing the flanker at that range with their radar and sensors or pick up the incoming missiles , plus you don't see defending squadrons of aircraft diving for the ground to lose missile locks, then to only climb back up to engage them.
@mimino0125
@mimino0125 2 месяца назад
Hi, awesome videos ! Wanted to ask if you could make a video showing how to calibrate Track IR, thanks !
@resurgam_b7
@resurgam_b7 2 месяца назад
As much as it pains me to see an aircraft as beautiful as the Rafale go down, that was some pretty swanky flying on your part. Avoiding a Meteor missile at all is impressive, but facing two Meteor slingers and coming out on top is quite the show!
@stanleyyy6940
@stanleyyy6940 2 месяца назад
Fascinating video, great job! I wonder how the battle would change if you don’t know what missiles the bandit is carrying. How would you build your tactics and how would that change the dynamics of the action. Just an idea for a more real world future video. Keep up!
@aapopesonen2902
@aapopesonen2902 2 месяца назад
One question: Where do you get the missile mods? For example, the R77-1 and AIM-120D? Or are they even public?
@FlintIronstag23
@FlintIronstag23 2 месяца назад
That Su-30 was a missile truck. I counted twelve air-to-air missiles.
@grahamesmith5523
@grahamesmith5523 2 месяца назад
That's some wing wobble on the Flanker
@eleazarreyes1915
@eleazarreyes1915 2 месяца назад
Pretty sure the r-37m will disintegrate trying to track maneuverable fighter planes
@icedcoffee8095
@icedcoffee8095 2 месяца назад
We need more French Tech !
@bebarty
@bebarty 2 месяца назад
its crazy to see how even stuff like wing flex and vibrations are modelled.
@ghost.8445
@ghost.8445 2 месяца назад
Great video as always. I love the Su 30 content. It's a good aircraft. Would love to see a match up between the Su 30 and the F 15C or F15E or maybe even the Eurofighter.
@AdamosDad
@AdamosDad 2 месяца назад
Do you think the AWACS might have jammers and towed decoys?
@yanbo2u
@yanbo2u 2 месяца назад
I don't think Sukhoi pilots speak "fox3" when firing radar guided missiles.
@firebald2915
@firebald2915 2 месяца назад
At the point of 1v1 @13:oo minutes... the pucker factor kicked in, volume down and I sat away from the screen... then you launched two r77's at him. Oh man, GS... hahaha the stress level in some of these are off the chart. As my Dad used to say, "if you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space."
@istvanbarta
@istvanbarta 2 месяца назад
What happend with the Rafale last Meteor? Obviously defeated, but the shoot was before that last double tap and you were very high for very long very inside the range. It's confused me a little.
@XTXImperator
@XTXImperator 2 месяца назад
I guess that GS dove straight down to the deck and hid behind a hill/went into a valley. The Meteor has an enormous range but isnt that quick, especially if GS forces the missile to go down low in the thicker air.
@Yoko_Grim
@Yoko_Grim 2 месяца назад
You definitely to try and find a Sol 1 skin for this plane when you do another mission with it. Maybe have you be a different Flanker variant and come across this Sol 1 Su-30SM in a 1v4, casually taking all 4 out before you link up and fly alongside as he heads RTB, leaving you to do your mission now that he did his.
@yazi_b0i63
@yazi_b0i63 2 месяца назад
Did you even survive that last missile? Up at 10km altitude with a meteor out for you, there's no way you would even be able to go down to the deck fast enough
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 2 месяца назад
you can when its a valley cuz the terrain around you covers you. this is how I beat all the other ones, I cranked towards the mountains and away from the flat terrain for this reason.
@thiemokellner1893
@thiemokellner1893 Месяц назад
What is the AWACS good for if has to go sitting duck distance for missiles. I also have got the impression those AWACS have no defence at all.
@alanwright3172
@alanwright3172 2 месяца назад
Taking out Cyrano was a smart starting move😎
@SA80TAGE
@SA80TAGE 2 месяца назад
what's closest, in terms of performance and/or operation, to the Eurofighter in DCS, the Rafale or Mirage?
@emptybottle9262
@emptybottle9262 8 дней назад
It's not the machine, it's the man within it.
@christophermcsherry2655
@christophermcsherry2655 2 месяца назад
I am really liking the Su-30.
@m.searay4629
@m.searay4629 2 месяца назад
Kept expecting you to smack the avionics to keep it from losing lock 😆
@historiadaaviacao.4274
@historiadaaviacao.4274 2 месяца назад
Combate espetacular, realmente não devemos subestimar o Su-30SM.
@FrostyXXIII
@FrostyXXIII 2 месяца назад
@growlingsidwinder you run dcs on a laptop?
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 2 месяца назад
No, I run servers off laptops and sometimes I edit on it
@firebald2915
@firebald2915 2 месяца назад
Doesn't your office/cockpit have a B/A 5ft screen ? GS has a video of his set-up. Good luck finding it...
@baraahamoood3372
@baraahamoood3372 2 месяца назад
What is that pod on the rafale
@jamesd4013
@jamesd4013 2 месяца назад
What was the "flash" that the R-37M pasted between time 3:17 and 3:19
@JuJu-fi8oo
@JuJu-fi8oo 2 месяца назад
What's that on 3:17 that zipped past the missile?
@JASHVEER22
@JASHVEER22 2 месяца назад
I have a question for pulse doppler radar if i have a radar lock if i drop my speed considerably the missile lose the lock? Say f15 vs su27
@Rose.Of.Hizaki
@Rose.Of.Hizaki 2 месяца назад
Not sure if thats scarecrow from the wizzard of oz in the seat of that SU-30M but that was absolute scary...
@Invalidar
@Invalidar 2 месяца назад
This video hurts me in the sense that either way it could have gone would have hurt. I love both the Flanker series and the Rafale.
@sethwelty6880
@sethwelty6880 2 месяца назад
Can’t wait for the new Mako missile to be put in.
@pancudowny
@pancudowny 2 месяца назад
At least they're not sporting Majik missiles... because those are used to attack darkness!😜
@dragongod8481
@dragongod8481 2 месяца назад
Why are you never in the rafale?
@Mike_Romeo
@Mike_Romeo 2 месяца назад
He was once ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-i6JDXVAIiWM.html
@shahzinshajid
@shahzinshajid 2 месяца назад
Would love to know the sound used at 5:20, that was so evil sounding!
@xKaaDo
@xKaaDo 2 месяца назад
love the Flanker videos! keep it up
@Schnauzi
@Schnauzi 2 месяца назад
I love the R-37M's but more I love ur videos ❤🎉
@alexcain9648
@alexcain9648 2 месяца назад
Nice, taking out an AWACS is like kicking a puppy tho.
@user-wx3xn6hy7t
@user-wx3xn6hy7t 2 месяца назад
How many hypersonics can load the flanker?
@kangarutan1915
@kangarutan1915 2 месяца назад
You should try and do an edit where you zoom in on the cockpit and then pop into first person like a Call of Duty level switch
@numberyellow
@numberyellow 2 месяца назад
i chuckled a bit when i saw "1010T" on your hud.
@DDayJayke
@DDayJayke 2 месяца назад
Su-30SM Flanker-H my beloved!
@gabrielcox3599
@gabrielcox3599 2 месяца назад
Great video! Would love to see more f-14 videos!
@ronyap65
@ronyap65 2 месяца назад
how come the awac doesnt try to evade the missle?
@XTXImperator
@XTXImperator 2 месяца назад
The AWACS doesnt know that a missile was fired, all it saw was the SU-30's radar painting him and when the missile went active/pitbull, it is/was too late to do anything about it.
@dsutt777
@dsutt777 2 месяца назад
As a aside, why do most of the canopies look like they've been cleaned with a brilo pad (scratched af)?
@alexandertheissl808
@alexandertheissl808 2 месяца назад
How the hell else are you supposed to get all that bird shit down?
@firebald2915
@firebald2915 2 месяца назад
I believe the scratches you see are stress fractures. Plastic going from hot to cold causes them. Our stock car lexan windshields do that. Never dry wipe lexan, do it wet and never ever use bleechwite white wall tire cleaner. Lexan will slow a bullet and rocks but that chemical spiderwebs where you can't see out of it.
@FinsburyPhil
@FinsburyPhil 2 месяца назад
Bigger airframe, bigger loadout - has to be an advantage in some scenarios. That's what makes the F-15EX an interesting platform in the mix with F-35s. Does it also make the F-15EX a good AWACS wingman, carrying a warehouse load of AIM-9Xs for anti AAM defence?
@EnlightenSphere-1
@EnlightenSphere-1 7 дней назад
That’s the AK-47 in the air
@yousifsalah8052
@yousifsalah8052 2 месяца назад
I think what would be interesting to see if you and a buddy in inferior aircrafts against one opponent is a vastly superior aircrafts
@Lee-sti8wrx
@Lee-sti8wrx 2 месяца назад
"Sad Rafale noises". Man those two jets look awesome. The canards look sweet as, I really find it hard to choose between both those aircraft. Fighters just look awesome with them. I still love the look of the old Mirage. Great video man. Love the channel bro.
@riidwanrahat1476
@riidwanrahat1476 2 месяца назад
Remember su57 shoot down su27 from 300km distance using R 37m
@TacoFlavoredKisses
@TacoFlavoredKisses 2 месяца назад
Checkmate vs F-35
@madjic-uc8hf
@madjic-uc8hf 2 месяца назад
Those rafales are a bit flying like seatting ducks aren't they ?
@icedragon769
@icedragon769 2 месяца назад
Why are you getting launch warnings for the fox-3 meteors?
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 2 месяца назад
He might have used an STT lock
@martinnemecek5603
@martinnemecek5603 Месяц назад
Could AWACS see the hypersonic coming on the radar? If so could they use meteor to counter it?
@idkwhattodo-ps7tw
@idkwhattodo-ps7tw 2 месяца назад
I got here 16 seconds after the video was posted
@thatoneguy1741
@thatoneguy1741 2 месяца назад
Please do a video flying the Rafale
@EB-Ghost6
@EB-Ghost6 2 месяца назад
Which model in DCS took you longest to learn?
@genos5702
@genos5702 2 месяца назад
Man the su 30SM flanker H such a awsome looking aircraft. Aslo su 27 .
@TyinAlaska
@TyinAlaska 2 месяца назад
It's time for Rafaels to be upgraded to f35s.
@James-sj3qj
@James-sj3qj 2 месяца назад
Downgrade
@user45g-4c5rf
@user45g-4c5rf 2 месяца назад
🤣🤣Do you think that's real life ?? Do you take the GS videos as proof of the Rafale's performance ??
@baileymartin2092
@baileymartin2092 2 месяца назад
Let’s get a su-27 vs f15 and su27 vs f16. Both gun fight and bvr
@nitiKT
@nitiKT 2 месяца назад
Can you please do a su 30 mki vs j20 bvr.
@bitmanagent67
@bitmanagent67 2 месяца назад
@GrowlingSidewinder, your editing is superb. The explosion one beat right before the crescendo is a demonstration of top-notch skills, my man. Great mission, as well.
@thorstenoeltjen6618
@thorstenoeltjen6618 2 месяца назад
does an AWAC really have no countermeasures? RadarJamming Flars Chaf- all the stuff? Do they really didn't notice that they have been locked? Hard to imagine - so an AWAC should be always the first target, or not?
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