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Suan Sonna Gets SCHOOLED By William Lane Craig 

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This clip was taken from a recent livestream with Suan Sonna. Watch the full interview here: • From Baptist Leftist t...
In this clip, Suan talks about the time Dr. William Lane Craig CRUSHED him.
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@TheRoark
@TheRoark 2 года назад
The image of a smiling WLC with the phrase “I’m going to destroy you” is absolutely hilarious 😂
@andrewprahst2529
@andrewprahst2529 2 года назад
Yeah i screenshotted it
@lproof8472
@lproof8472 2 года назад
Suan missed the point in his own hospital visit anecdote. The existence of the hospital itself is evidence of God’s work in the world.
@asvananda5328
@asvananda5328 2 года назад
I’m glad I’m not the only person who only gets the short intro to the conversation. As a Patreon subscriber where are the full videos:-(
@jrrgotmemes8835
@jrrgotmemes8835 2 года назад
Aren't they on patreon?
@CybermanKing
@CybermanKing 2 года назад
Seems so strange to see a non Catholic understand a lot of Catholic theology.
@GustavoFerreira56
@GustavoFerreira56 2 года назад
he is now catholic
@AllforOne_OneforAll1689
@AllforOne_OneforAll1689 Год назад
Most non Catholics understand catholic theology, hence why they are not catholic.
@Wilkins325
@Wilkins325 Год назад
It’s almost like faithful and thoughtful Christians exist outside of Rome
@King_of_Blades
@King_of_Blades 2 месяца назад
@@Wilkins325Pretty much. 🙏✝️🙏
@ninaluz8710
@ninaluz8710 2 года назад
Amidst these diabolical times, God always gives us good worthy servants that gives the rest of us; HOPE I pray for you Suan 🙏🙏🙏
@CanisDei
@CanisDei 2 года назад
I wonder what explanation would Craig had given Suan?
@mathewjose4753
@mathewjose4753 2 года назад
Hey Pints with Aquinas, can you please interview Classical Theist?
@SuperFernandinho7
@SuperFernandinho7 2 года назад
These thoughts people have are plain dumb. Someone is dying and you say “where are you Christ?” Basically people looking to blame God for everything and deny His existence. Glad you finally got over your emotions and thought rationally.
@Oskar1000
@Oskar1000 2 года назад
What a toxic mindset
@cliveaw1206
@cliveaw1206 2 года назад
Whether it's dumb depends on where it's coming from. Some people really care for the people who are suffering and say this. Didn't Martha and Mary say this to Jesus? I wouldn't say they are dumb. They are just a really good sisters who are really sad.
@Real_LiamOBryan
@Real_LiamOBryan 2 года назад
Which number Q&A was it, bro?
@vaderetro264
@vaderetro264 2 года назад
I can't stand titles such as 'this guy got schooled/destroyed by' and the likes, which made me enjoy this video even more.
@iamami23
@iamami23 2 года назад
So where’s that link?
@nickk4851
@nickk4851 2 года назад
I only come to these to see Matt open the can at the end.
@caroldonaldson5936
@caroldonaldson5936 2 года назад
And that's the danger he just doesn't get - his seductive take on just how 'cool' it is to booze. 🤷🤷 "Therefore let us not pass judgement on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother." Rom.14:13 Nothing wrong with enjoying the occasional drink but to positively promote it in every video and risk triggering others is insensitive & unwise.
@MutohMech
@MutohMech 2 года назад
@@caroldonaldson5936 do you struggle with alcoholism? I'm a teetotaler out purely of personal taste, I found it interesting that while I am wholly indifferent to the scene with Matt it can provoke such strong cravings on others.
@garriteinig3445
@garriteinig3445 2 года назад
@@caroldonaldson5936 I'd at least like to put it out there that the can in his outro is water.
@caroldonaldson5936
@caroldonaldson5936 2 года назад
@@MutohMech And if I did, you just sought to personally expose & stigmatise me - what a sick little puppy you are! My point stands, Matt lacks sensitivity to the frailties & weaknesses of his brothers & sisters in Christ; "Be careful, however, that the exercise of your rights does not become a stumbling block to the weak." 1 Cor 8:9. "Therefore let us not pass judgement any longer, but resolve never to put a stumbling block in the way of a brother." Rom:14:13 Your lack of understanding & compassion for others speaks volumes.
@caroldonaldson5936
@caroldonaldson5936 2 года назад
@@garriteinig3445 The booze he consumes isn't.🤷
@rep3e4
@rep3e4 2 года назад
Awesome
@chaldeang7687
@chaldeang7687 2 года назад
Where is Suan's course on the papacy? I bought the patreon but I can't find the course, please help.
@Jf-mi2lj
@Jf-mi2lj 2 года назад
I wish I could help but you should try emailing Suan
@csongorarpad4670
@csongorarpad4670 2 года назад
UTTERLY DESTROYED THE AGNOSTIC SUAN SONNA
@BlessedisShe
@BlessedisShe 2 года назад
🙏
@dalewilliams7801
@dalewilliams7801 2 года назад
Where is the link to the question he asked?
@michaeljohn5999
@michaeljohn5999 2 года назад
Alright, so... who has the link?
@6williamson
@6williamson 2 года назад
This is a small point, but I like the fact that he says, 'he developed' rather than 'he evolved'. People don't 'evolve'. Evolution is a random event.
@stellarjayatkins4749
@stellarjayatkins4749 2 года назад
Evolution isn’t real.
@MrEVAQ
@MrEVAQ 2 года назад
@@stellarjayatkins4749 It's real. The question if humans came directly from evolution or were put on earth together with the function of evolution isna different one, but it's real.
@mcephas6982
@mcephas6982 2 года назад
@@MrEVAQ I used to think that, but I doubt evolution more everyday. They really have nothing to stand on at this point.
@MrEVAQ
@MrEVAQ 2 года назад
@@mcephas6982 What? Evolution is a fact of nature, and it makes perfect sense
@SneakyEmu
@SneakyEmu 2 года назад
@@mcephas6982 the fossil record alone is enough. So we all are quite literally standing on it
@andthensome512
@andthensome512 2 года назад
There's a reason for two creation accounts that I have only heard one Bible scholar explain. Most try to gloss over the obvious contradictions between Genesis 1 and 2 but when you know why they are different, there's no need to explain away the differences. The fact is, they are describing 2 different creations. Genesis 1 is a prophetic overview of redemptive history, while Genesis 2 is a creation narrative.
@mcephas6982
@mcephas6982 2 года назад
I've read Catholic theologian and apologist Dr. Robert Sungenis explain it like this: "The Alleged Conflict Between Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 Common objections to a literal reading Genesis 1 is that it would conflict with a literal reading of Genesis 2. Events in Genesis 2, if taken literally, happen quite fast compared to the events in Genesis 1. (1) For example, between the creation of man in Genesis 2:7 and the creation of woman in Genesis 2:18-25, God plants a garden in 2:8 and causes trees to grow in 2:9 (including the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and the tree of life). The objection claims that such a scenario would entail the rapid growth of the trees that would have to occur between the appearance of Adam and the appearance of Eve. This objection holds little weight, first because it presumes to limit God's action to natural occurrences during an obviously miraculous creation week. Considering that Eve is said to be created miraculously from the side of Adam (as confirmed by Pope Leo XIII), it is quite apparent that miraculous ex nihilo activity is continuing to occur until the creation is complete on the seventh day. (2) A second objection states that, according to Genesis 2:5, there were no plants prior to the creation of man, which conflicts with the account in Genesis 1:11-12 that the plants were made prior to man. This objection can be answered by focusing on the particular words used in Genesis 2 that are not used in Genesis 1. Genesis 2:5 refers to the "shrub" (x;yfi) of the field, but this word does not appear in Genesis 1:11-12 or 1:29-30. Genesis 1:11-12 refers to the "herb" (bf,[e) and the "tree producing fruit" (yrIP. hf,[). Hence, the first distinction between Genesis 1:11-12 and Genesis 2:5 is that the former indicates only two kinds of vegetation, whereas Genesis 2:5 adds a third kind. Apparently, the two plants of Genesis 1:11-12 served as food for Adam and Eve in Genesis 1:29-30. There is a second distinction. Genesis 2:5 specifies that "not every herb of the field had yet sprung up," which would mean there were some that had sprung up on the third day of creation, and some which sprung up after the sixth day of creation. There is a third distinction. Genesis 2:5 says the "shrubs" and "herbs" had not yet produced tsemach (xm'c.yI), contrasting with dashah (av,D,) of Genesis 1:11-12. The former refers to a budding for the next generation, while the latter refers to an original sprouting of the first generation of fruits. Hence, Adam and Eve's food, on the first day of their creation, was the original fruit of the two plants in Genesis 1:11-12, while the "shrubs" and the budding plants would have to wait until the appropriate time. (3) A third objection claims that, after the creation of the trees in Genesis 2:8-9, God then makes a river to flow out of Eden in Genesis 2:10, from which it is divided into four other rivers. This would involve even more time and more miraculous activity prior to the creation of the woman. But this objection is easily answered, since Genesis 2:10 does not specifically say that God made the rivers at that time. It is more likely that the rivers may have been a product of the waters separated on day three of Genesis 1:9-13. (4) A fourth objection submits that Genesis 2:18-20 indicates that the animals were created after man, whereas Genesis 1:24-26 indicates that the animals were created before man. This objection can be answered in one of two ways. The Hebrew word yatsar (rc,YIw:) used in Genesis 2:19 ("and out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast...and every bird...and brought them to the man to see what he would call them") is a Hebrew imperfect tense, which, since Hebrew only has two tenses, past and future, can be understood as a pluperfect, which would then be understood as: "and out of the ground the Lord God had formed every beast..." This explanation makes the most sense, since the quest given in Genesis 2:18 is to find a "suitable helper" for Adam. Since God knew the animals would not to be a suitable helper (i.e., a being with whom Adam could not communicate and procreate), then it would be rather aimless for Him to create the animals after He created Adam merely to see if a suitable helper could be found among them. It makes much more sense that, having previously created the animals, it was already known that none of them served as a suitable helper, and thus Eve's creation had already been anticipated. In this way, Genesis 2:18-20 serves as an alternate perspective on the chronology of Genesis 1:24-26 so as to set up the theological underpinnings of Eve's creation, a theology which will serve as the basis for Adam's headship over Eve (cf., 1 Timothy 2:13; 1 Corinthians 11:5; Ephesians 5:22). In the above scenario, the days of Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 compare as follows: Day One 1:1-5 2:4-7 Day Two 1:6-8 2:8 Day Three 1:9-13 2:9-14 Day Four 1:14-19 2:15 Day Five 1:20-23 2:16-17 Day Six 1:24-31 2:18-24"
@andthensome512
@andthensome512 2 года назад
@@mcephas6982 that's a great example of a bible scholar trying to explain the inconsistencies and making a mess of it. He's coming at it from completely the wrong angle. Genesis 1 is prophetic. It's a prophetic overview of redemptive history. The Adam of Genesis 1 is Jesus, Who was created as the Son of Man on the 6th prophetic day. Too much to explain in a youtube comment though.
@michaelfowler9467
@michaelfowler9467 9 месяцев назад
that Liquid Death sponsorship aged like milk DX
@njohn6995
@njohn6995 2 года назад
I would like to see Graig answer to Suan.
@kynesilagan2676
@kynesilagan2676 2 года назад
Nice
@MrFossil367ab45gfyth
@MrFossil367ab45gfyth 2 года назад
Suan, may I recommend a book for you? it is called "The Language of God: A Scientists Presents Evidence for Belief" by. Francis Collins.
@andrewg3161
@andrewg3161 2 года назад
Id like to know the books he read that allowed him to come to a pretty comfortable position on evolution and Christianity. I'm doing some more reading myself on the matter or at least trying to.
@johnn633
@johnn633 2 года назад
there is a book by the american dominican order called "thomistic evolution" or something like that and it is written by biologists, physicists, theologians and philosophers. They are in the riverforest tradition and try to explain a theory of evolution in thomist metaphysical terms. they also have a webpage
@mcephas6982
@mcephas6982 2 года назад
I think people only think evolution is even possible because of The Big Bang Theory. I know a lot of Christians have taken to that theory, but it was only after I discovered how the theory actually came to be that I realized evolution was also based off a whole lot of nothing. If one insists on believing in The Big Bang model, then Hugh Ross has the best book on trying to square that with Genesis. But I think Robert Sungenis' book "Galileo Was Wrong, The Church Was Right", the abridged version, is the best out there to start understanding Genesis from a literal perspective.
@IndyDefense
@IndyDefense 2 года назад
One good one I know is The Lost World of Genesis One.
@vaskaventi6840
@vaskaventi6840 2 года назад
I read 'In The Beginning' by Fr. Lawrence R. Farley and it was pretty good in terms of examining scripture. May be something to check out.
@jeremyfrost3127
@jeremyfrost3127 7 месяцев назад
Only A Theory
@jonson856
@jonson856 2 года назад
Dont stop it there! Whats his position on evolution and Genesis?
@letrewiarz
@letrewiarz 2 года назад
It's already on the channel: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xMgN_G-IQTc.html
@lumpichu
@lumpichu 2 года назад
My position is somewhere in the middle, how it seems most natural, compatible with both observations and with Catholic teachings - but I admit I can be wrong on some of it and that I don't know the details. Fortunately most of this is just science so it's not a problem for me that I don't know for sure. So - creation and evolution of universe, maybe by a form of big bang (for me, this idea seems to be more beautiful and compatible with God, rather than the idea that all stars, systems etc. just appeared in finished state), creation of different life forms on Earth by God with their evolving somewhat.
@alexandros6433
@alexandros6433 2 года назад
Why the beer?
@bolapromatoqueejogodecampe9353
@bolapromatoqueejogodecampe9353 2 года назад
My friend look into the theory of intelligent design.
@namapalsu2364
@namapalsu2364 2 года назад
William Lane Craig may believe open theism, he may reject classical theism divine simplicity, he may believe that the second person takes the place of the soul of Christ, but still he's my hero.
@rickyparrish2570
@rickyparrish2570 Год назад
He most certainly does not believe in open theism.
@jeremyhughes1059
@jeremyhughes1059 2 года назад
That’s the one thing that is causing me to question the faith, if evolution is a fact then death has always existed, if death has always existed then God created death as good. So why would Adam being threatened with death be a problem he is going to die any way. This also questions the Bible as well especially wisdom 2:24
@Jimmy-iy9pl
@Jimmy-iy9pl 2 года назад
Spiritual death could be what God is referring to in Genesis.
@bluecollarcatholic8173
@bluecollarcatholic8173 2 года назад
Suan Sonna gets destroyed by William Lane Craig would’ve been a better title Lol. Consider it an honor to be destroyed , by the “ Destroyer “.
@_TradCat_
@_TradCat_ 2 года назад
If evolution is true then how did Adam name all the animals in Genesis?
@lilwaynesworld0
@lilwaynesworld0 2 года назад
They had no one to name them till Adam irregardless the point the author is trying to make is Adam had dominion over the animal world not that Adam was created in a literal 24 hour period after the animals.
@roberteaston6413
@roberteaston6413 2 года назад
@@lilwaynesworld0 no such word as irregardless. The opposite of regard is regardless.
@evansmith2018
@evansmith2018 2 года назад
I really wish they would post these to Sips with Aquinas so that all these clickbait videos would stop taking over my feed. I only want to watch the complete interviews and I want to block all these cringe thumbnails. I'm not sure why SWA is not used anymore.
@1godonlyone119
@1godonlyone119 2 года назад
Suan Sonna: Asks for his question to be made anonymous. Also Suan Sonna: Repeats the entire story, along with the question, publicly.
@Jesus_Saves_to_the_uttermost
@Jesus_Saves_to_the_uttermost 2 года назад
1 Corinthians 15:1 - Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 1 Corinthians 15:2 - By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 1 Corinthians 15:3 - For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 1 Corinthians 15:4 - And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Acts 16:30 - And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be Saved? Acts 16:31 - And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy House. ......
@chaldeang7687
@chaldeang7687 2 года назад
Is there any observable evidence that evolution is true? I'm talking about the type of evolution where a family of animals evolve into a totally new family or kinds of animals.
@1godonlyone119
@1godonlyone119 2 года назад
I was going to try being agnostic, but I never knew whether it was the right worldview for me or not.
@ShaneChiswick
@ShaneChiswick 2 года назад
Lol
@d.o.7784
@d.o.7784 2 года назад
… and I thought this is a catholic site….
@spyroninja
@spyroninja 2 года назад
Uhh what?
@jrrgotmemes8835
@jrrgotmemes8835 2 года назад
Are you mad because they mentioned Craig, a non catholic?
@roberteaston6413
@roberteaston6413 2 года назад
Catholics often draw on CS Lewis. He was an Anglican.
@1godonlyone119
@1godonlyone119 2 года назад
Interpretation of scripture is not scripture: Scripture is to be understood directly, exactly as God reveals it, without any interpretation. If you are interpreting scripture, then you are necessarily misunderstanding it.
@iankirkpatrick6479
@iankirkpatrick6479 6 месяцев назад
There is no communication without interpretation. For without interpretation, words are just sound waves in the air and written text is just patterns of ink on paper. Interpretation is foundational to communication. Understanding is the end result of interpreted communication... for interpretation is the method through which we understand... what context you use to interpret with though... that's where people start to disagree on. In other words, we disagree on HOW to interpret, not on WHETHER to interpret.
@ronj8000
@ronj8000 2 года назад
What's the giant freaking medal around this nerds neck
@joe99173122
@joe99173122 2 года назад
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Benedict_Medal
@rolandovelasquez135
@rolandovelasquez135 2 года назад
COWBOY LOGIC 101: Hello Suan. I would encourage you to keep studying evolution. If you study it enough you will discover that it is not true because it is impossible. Just look at the fossil record. And look at the absolutely complex structure of DNA or protein molecules. Impossible. Ah, I forgot to mention the Cambrian Explosion.
@MrFossil367ab45gfyth
@MrFossil367ab45gfyth 2 года назад
Evolution is fact. There is a lot evidence to back it up.
@sarah-by5ky
@sarah-by5ky 2 года назад
Evolution is absolutely a fact. The sole reason there is a fossil record of developing homosapien skull shapes and DNA is that evolution took place. Just because it is complex does not mean that it is impossible. Many Catholics believe in evolution, just with God being the guiding hand.
@theoskeptomai2535
@theoskeptomai2535 2 года назад
Hello. I am an atheist. I define atheism as suspending any acknowledgement as to the existence of gods until sufficient credible evidence can be presented. My position is that *_I have no good reason to acknowledge the existence of gods._* And here is the evidence as to why I currently hold to such a position. 1. I personally have never observed a god. 2. I have never encountered a person whom has claimed to have observed a god. 3. I know of no accounts of persons claiming to have observed a god that were willing or able to demonstrate or verify their observation for authenticity, accuracy, or validity. 4. I have never been presented a valid logical argument which also employed sound premises that lead deductively to a conclusion that a god(s) exists. 5. Of the 46 logical syllogisms I have encountered arguing for the existence of a god(s), I have found all to contain multiple fallacious or unsubstantiated premises. 6. I have never observed a phenomenon in which the existence of a god was a necessary antecedent for the known or probable explanation for the causation of that phenomenon. 7. Several proposed (and generally accepted) explanations for observable phenomena that were previously based on the agency of a god(s), have subsequently been replaced with rational, natural explanations, each substantiated with evidence that excluded the agency of a god(s). I have never encountered _vice versa._ 8. I have never experienced the presence of a god through intercession of angels, divine revelation, the miraculous act of divinity, or any occurrence of a supernatural event. 9. Every phenomenon that I have ever observed has *_emerged_* from necessary and sufficient antecedents over time without exception. In other words, I have never observed a phenomenon (entity, process, object, event, process, substance, system, or being) that was created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously came into existence by the solitary volition of a deity. 10. All claims of a supernatural or divine nature that I have encountered have either been refuted to my satisfaction, or do not present as falsifiable. ALL of these facts lead me to the only rational conclusion that concurs with the realities I have been presented - and that is the fact that there is *_no good reason_* for me to acknowledge the existence of a god. I have heard often that atheism is the denial of the Abrahamic god. But denial is the active rejection of a substantiated fact once credible evidence has been presented. Atheism is simply withholding any acknowledgement until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. *_It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstatiated claims, especially extraordinary ones._* I welcome any cordial response. Peace.
@johnyang1420
@johnyang1420 2 года назад
Not trying to be mean….but have you ever seen your brain? Do you have a brain? Obviously, you have a brain. Do we need to personally witness every single thing in history to believe it? Using and trusting testimony of others is called history. Look up Jesus in Britannica….Jesus is a fact.
@johnyang1420
@johnyang1420 2 года назад
Did I see the assassination of Lincoln? No….but I believe it happened.
@johnyang1420
@johnyang1420 2 года назад
Check out book Why We Are Catholic by Trent Horn….it deals with a lot of questions you have. I used to be an atheist and now Im a devout Catholic. God bless you in your search!
@newglof9558
@newglof9558 Год назад
Not sure what observability has to do with truth.
@1godonlyone119
@1godonlyone119 2 года назад
Jesus did not resurrect from the dead -- the disciples robbed the grave. More importantly, God is immortal and cannot die under any circumstance. If Jesus died, under any circumstance, then he was not God. Jesus did die (according to Christians), so he definitely was not God.
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