Subaru Is BETTER Than Toyota! Here's 5 Reason That Confirm It! 

@@allenanderson3649no timing belt on these. Lifetime chains.

@@MrSubaru1387 Did someone post that there was a timing belt on them and when you answered he took it away in embarrassment? Lmao

Just wait until you get over 150k miles on it - it will start burning oil like crazy. Almost all vehicles will be without any issues under 100k miles if you take good care of them. Once you get near 200k miles is when you will find out how reliable or unreliable it really is.

@@NATEG01you own one? If you’re so knowledgeable where are you getting this information? You are actually misinformed. Don’t worry there are plenty of subjective comments, your theory is actually flawed since I do know someone that has a 2016 Forrester 230,000 miles everything you said is incorrect. Not surprised at all. You have a wonderful day.

​@@MrSubaru1387 I like both brands they are pretty similar

Many potential buyers torqued about Toyota salespeople raping buyers.

Toyota's are Toys Subey's are tops!

Family and friends all have subarus. But I was originally looking for a Rav4 Hybrid about a year ago and had the same experience with markups and borderline extortion-pricing on their hybrids. Went with a 2019 Outback and no car payment

I got the 2023 forester wilderness last July and absolutely love it.

That has caused a lot of defections from Toyota over the past few years...

@seraphim1833 My wife and I have both a Subaru and Honda. While the AWD on the Subaru is better on paper, in the real world for our usage it makes no difference.

Toyota's AWD is getting better, in years past, the AWD on their small and midsize SUV'S was just pathetic. Recent test between a TRD RAV4 and a Crosstrek Wilderness in deep snow, the Crosstrek was much better, the AWD system in the RAV4 overheated....

Strange. I absolutely leave my friend sitting when racing off the line in the snow.

Subaru’s are reliable if you CHANGE THE OIL regularly, and don’t beat the hell out of them.

@@steve8803 that must be mild then, or just going to grocery stores, my wife has a Honda Civic I have a forester, on snowy days, especially going up our street, which is a bit of an incline. There is a huge difference, the Honda struggles that’s for sure.

I agree. I just bought the 2023 Outback wilderness. Handles great and is very comfortable.

The 2024 outback is what I just got! It's my first subaru. Have you gone camping with it? I was gonna try that this fall.

In 1975, my Dad surprised me with my 1st car after getting my license. I was like, what the heck is this? Why not a Toyota, like everyone else!!..lol..He wanted me safe..I just got my 2nd Subaru, in remembrance of him. So, my 1st & hopefully last car; will be a Subaru..

I'm thinking of trading my 2015 with a 2018 model😅

Very interesting! Never would've thought

Never knew that. How interesting!

Very interesting, why that?

I have Bombardier in mine.

Subaru also makes aircraft and helicopters, so maybe there's connection there.

Yes we know the truth . We had 1 Subaru and 1 Volkswagen . Both broke a lot .

V W now, fun to drive. Needs work.😂

Indeed, haven’t heard high ratings about WRX, all other models seem to do really well though

Same here 2009 subaru forester xt...

New Forester Wilderness owner, so far it feels very solid. In your pursuit of better mpg I would try Archoil Gas Treatment. I believe it’s item # is 6200. It is a fuel stabilizer and treatment. I have used it for everything from weed eater, to large lawn mowers, Ford Escape, Honda Odyssey and Sierra 1500. The autos all had a 2 or 3 mpg bump while the 5.3l maxed out at a 2 mpg bump. Not sure if it pays for itself in mileage but I have not had a small engine problem in the 5 years I have been using it. Also use their diesel additive in my tractors, much less black smoke. No, I don’t have any connections to them, just a good product line.

@@PapaA7145 I got, consistently, 32 mpg during the summers, but then I put Crossclimate2 tires on, and...well...I now have more road noise and less MPG. Grips like a spooked cat on a carpet during our Cleveland Ohio snows, so it's all a giveandtake. I do use Lucas fuel additive from time to time and other cleaning stuffs. I find the ambiant temp has more say over my mpg now that any non-gasoline fluid I add to the tank. Even then, 27.5 average over 1.5 years is not terrible. And I have 45mpg on my motorcycle during the spring-summer-fall. 🏍️😎

Lol...I used to think like you, then one day the light bulb went off, and I figured out I do not want to be the only one that gets to work.

@@Mach141 Oh, I don't WANT to get to work, but I have that whole "mortgage" thing, and due to poor reaction time, two kids to feed. 😭

The last Scotty I saw he recommended dont buy this Toyota, buy this Subaru instead !

Same thing happened to me in my wrx in a snowy road. Just suddenly I was sideways in the road for no real reason. Could almost get control back but was fish tailing and going faster and faster. I turned into the skid, punched the gas, and she straightened right out......needed to clean my pants after that but the car did it!

Don't mean to be that guy, but you shouldn't be going 100kph on a wet or snowy road. That's supposed to be common sense. I'm glad you're fine but next time drive for the conditions, 50 kph is the max you should go in rain and the snow (ideally less) and I personally never exceed 80 kph on a road that isn't warm and dry.

@@burakoshimazaki - No, be that guy. I see it all of the time -- people think because they have AWD or 4WD they can go fast in snow or rain and don't have to slow down like us mere mortals in FWD. AWD doesn't save you from hydroplaning or sliding off the road when you hit a patch of ice. I see plenty of AWDs and 4x4's in ditches during storms for that very reason.

I watch The Car Care Nut on RU-vid, and while he doesn't knock the brand he always gives Toyota's a higher rating overall. Since we don't live in the north, probably staying Toyota.

there is a software update to deal with the battery issue - the ecu turns the alternator off to save gas on a pretty aggressive algorithm that the consequence is too many charge and discharge cycles - ever notice when you first start the motor whether engine hot or cold and it runs high rpm? that to recharge the calculated starter drain - then it shuts alternator off and car runs off the battery - so dumb. just like the auto star/stop - probably saves you. gallon of gas a YEAR at the expense of wear and tear - also dumb. at least the dealer will install a patch to tame the alternator issue

I had a 2012 forester I bought new. I liked it well enough, but two issues. 1. Minor. The head shield around parts of exhaust would collect snow in winter and freeze to ice and rattle. 2. Major. If you drove more than say 7,000 miles and then had a tire ruined by a road hazard you had to buy 4 new tires not 1 tire. I know.. I did not believe the tire shop or the dealer and so I called Subaru and they said yes. 4 new tires because if there is more than 2/32 difference between the tires. The transaxle will spin at different speeds and wear out or break.

I had nothing but issues with my Toyota, so count yourself lucky. As for the TCV, it seems like a weaker point but doesn’t mean you will have issues, but if you do Subaru made it right. Toyota fought their brake and sludge issues as hard as they could.

@@DaveTheAligatorThat is with most AWD systems, not just Subaru.

Toyota makes the best 4x4’s in the world (Land Cruiser), while Subaru makes the best AWD. Some may conflate the two terms. If you’re doing serious off-roading in the wilderness, you want a Land Cruiser / Lexus LX. For everything else, Subaru is the way to go.

had my fair share of in-line fours and six's, subarus definitely feel more balanced when cornering and turning

Absolutely unstoppable AWD in any snow conditions!!!!

Did it really? What a great engineered machine. I drive a 98 but I’m holding out for a manual outback :(.

The OBW won't steer you away, but will brake hard before you can even react. Your wife probably steered herself after the car braked first. I own a 2022 OBW.

If you got a Toyota or Honda you probably wouldn't have to be changing the engine or transmission in it.

Cheap subarus are good subarus

Same. Nervous. But I do like it.

Same...im tired as hell replacing the stolen Highlander from my laneway a month ago, Stolen - intercepted - written off :( No Fob amplification-- just busted out side window and plugged in laptop after removing OBD lock. )

I wad so hesitant because I was in love with the handling of my hyundai tucson. I miss it but I'm adjusting.

Completely different vehicles, your Toyota has a frame, Subaru handles sporty.

The hybrids are such logical cars, sigh, but the Venza space in back is markedly limited by the small opening, required to make the Venza attractive, I guess. I wanted a used Venza, with 43K miles on it, but was startled by the MRSP mark up of $5K on a used car. They didn't hide it, just slapped it the quote they gave me. I chose to keep my old car. I can buy a lot of years of gas for that $5K. I would believe the Subaru to be more practical than the Venza. However, next year the Toyota Hybrid system will be available in Subaru's, of course. I expect them to have MSRP mark up as well. You have to give Toyota credit for sticking to it's guns in the face of the electric car craze. No one is really arguing that Toyota's are bad cars, they just have a reputation for not being emotion driven purchases. Subaru's have more emotion based purchasing, in my opinion. But I still think the CVT requires significant maintenance to last, much more than traditional transmissions. All about the mileage, I know. The new touchscreen in catching a lot of flak from reviewers, too.

@@user-handlethetruth The CVT in Subarus doesn't really require more maintenance, it just needs a flush and fill every 60,000 miles (100,000 kms). That is likely similar to what should be done with regular automatics as well. One may argue that the Subaru vehicles might be a little more needy to get the maintenance done, but it's something that should be done regardless. I likely would have bought a RAV-4 Hybrid but they aren't available (long waiting list) and I got lucky that this one was on the lot when I was there. A similar thing happened last year when we got the Forester, it was only on the lot because someone on the waiting list changed their mind, so we grabbed it, which worked out perfectly. Neither dealer added any extra markup or fees, just MSRP (which is the norm for Toyota and Subaru anyway) and we actually got fair value for the trade. We've been very happy with both vehicles.

I drive a 2012 2.5 Outback, 159M miles. I am still patiently waiting for my car to start using oil (Still does not use a drop, never has). I am still waiting for that CVT trans to fail me (Still performs flawlessly). I am still waiting for creaks, noises and air leaks to compromise the ride experience (Never has). I guess I will have to keep driving this car for several more years so I have a reason to sell it. Oh well....

You will be replacing head gaskets

Big mistake, Subarus are high maintenance compared to Toyotas, especially at high mileage. Also quality is on par with mitsubishi

Air cooled though, which does make a difference.

I have always trusted the Toyota brand. Reliability and durability is built into every car Toyota makes.

@@MrRensan404 that’s too bad, a flawed brand well, they were good up to about 15 years ago. Glad you were just writing about Toyota since the comment was about how well the trusted Subaru, reliability and durability is an every car Subaru makes. It pays to really read. Have an awesome day…… don’t let anything cross in front of your vehicle. Looks like you’ll probably get into an accident.

​@@martinr8278Love Subarus but Toyotas and Lexus are still on top in terms of reliability, mpgs, no.of available options, resale etc..

@@Gopinathk17everyone has their opinion. I owned a rav in 98. Not a bad little suv. I’ve also owned a crv and now a forester. Got to say the crv and forester were better in several ways then Toyota. You’re addressing the same things most brands are ranked high in so it’s equal ground. Honda can say the same…..Subaru can say the same just like Toyota. Spin terms of reliability, mpgs and resale….Subaru are in the top also. Be objective….not subjective.

@@martinr8278 Everyone has opinions but when it comes to the reality, the statistics speak the facts. Also it's human tendency that whatever they own they try to argue that it is great, that's why we go by the reviewers and neutral people. When I was owning Nissan Rogue I used to argue that its the best. Honestly, I never had any issues with it but I didn't use it for long so I don't know, May be in the long run I may have seen some issues. Toyotas and Lexus are still definitely holding the best reliability, mpgs(Hybrid trims) and resale values. That's an undeniable fact that most of the reviewers accept. 5-10 years ownership costs of Rav4 is much lesser than Subaru or any other competitor in that class. Also, its not fair comparing a 98 Rav4 with some latest generations Forester. I drove both 2023 forester and Rav4 hybrid Xle..no comparison at all, the hybrid trim of rav4 is much quicker, quieter and smoother and it's touching 40 mpgs combined. Subarus are great in their own way but Toyotas shine in those terms that I mentioned.

You're going to hate it! Unless your impaired.it has way too many safety features for my liking.

@@Paul-qq7mh I agree there are too many safety features that I don’t need. But I love the vehicle.👍

What makes you say that? I've never known anyone with a Subaru have a transmission fail on them... You just one of those guys who hates on CVTs because Scotty Kilmer does? My Legacy with the CVT gets better gas mileage than my Impreza with the standard auto did. Bigger car, same engine, better mileage.

@@penguin12902 I had a 2011 outback and CVT went out at 110000miles always well taking care of idk i love my subarus but there CVT needs more perfecting

They use silicone instead of regular gaskets then you have oil leaks.

What part was it !???

@@Beachboy22 trim ring around the fog light.

Thankyou!! Rav4 is hottt garbageee!!!!

What kind of tires are we talking about? I had Falken wildpeaks on my 2016 rav4 and it was pretty much unstoppable 😊

Yup, tires make a HUGE difference especially braking in snow. I now find just front wheel drive with 4 snows gets me to almost anywhere I need to be without drama. I do love Subaru’s AWD system though.

@@atticstatticwe drive with dedicated winter snow tires. At that time I had the best Michelin X Ice tires on the car. Believe me, there is a clear night and day difference between Toyota AWD and Subaru’s symmetrical AWD.

Reliability through redundancy, smart

Wow 3 cars in 8 years that doesn't sound good at all must be a problem!

Agreed! As much as people would hate the idea I’d love to see a Subaru mini van with its nice AWD system and 2nd/3rd row seats removable. Practicality to a whole new level. Wilderness edition please 😆being

Customer support too is pretty good for a big company.

Subaru and toyota collaborated on the ecvt used in the 2019-2023 crosstrek hybrid (and still essentially kept symmetrical awd but at the cost of no lower trunk space since the battery needed it), I expect it to return in MY2026.

"Roberts gone and kicked the hornest nest again" It seems that way! You'd need sample(s) of both brands of vehicles and to get the micrometers, hardness gauges and so on out to truly tell the difference in quality. For example, the Toyota 2JZ engine had far more uniform block thickness and higher block hardness than the Nissan RB30 and Ford Barra blocks. Both the Nissan and Ford had exhibited undesirable "core shift" of the sand core during block casting (creating potential weak thin spots), where Toyota avoided that. That's where Toyota showed their superior manufacturing ability and superior quality. By all means the Subaru all wheel drive system is pretty good, but I would NOT jump to the conclusion that Subaru engines are better made than Toyota engines or that Subaru transmissions are better made than Aisin transmission unless there was *plenty* of evidence to show it! [Subaru can't even use the right amount of sealant on BRZ/GR86 engines, that's not a good look...] In my opinion, Subaru use their own automatic (the CVT) and their own 6-speed manual (the TY75 box) instead of Aisin units, simply because it's cheaper for them to do so (and it keeps the Subaru transmission factory ticking over), not because these transmissions are actually better than Aisin transmissions (like the one in the WRX STi). But feel free to correct me! 🙂 Subaru haven't actually made a business of selling transmissions (or engines) to anyone else (unless I'm mistaken) unlike Aisin or Toyota, which might say something... 🤔

@@TassieLorenzoso Toyotas transmissions are sold to others spreading the flaws?? Hmmm

I have a 2021 4 Runner, just recently got a certified used 2024 ( warranty was longer than newine) Outback Wilderness . Hoping it hold up just as long as the 4 Runner. Hoping this touch screen for the Outback does not give me any issues down the road. That was my only concern when buying it.

Nah, I’ve only owned Hondas and Toyotas, but always thought the Outback was a great looking car. Also enjoy this channel.

@@BC-te9ow Only a "great looking" car? That is an insult! 😂

Subarus are great (we have them) the AWD is better than Toyota and they do get better marks for safety. The data shows though that Toyotas last longer and cost their owners less to keep on the road. For us, it was worth it to have the subie.

@@thomas735 when I bought my first Subaru seven years ago, the date I read at the time suggested that not only did Toyota have an initial hire price point. It also cost more to maintain. Not astronomically, but just more.

@@LarsStevens-z3b hmm, just going based off my experience and what I’ve read

Driving habits are so important as well as maintenance. Take care of your baby.

Yeah I think the real argument is Japanese vs American. I like Subies more, but Toyota is a close second

i took care of my 2017 Impreza with only 35k and it started consuming oil and transmission cvt troubles

@@glennschiffer1742 that sucks dude I’m sorry that happened to you. I won’t lie, not every car is built perfectly, and that goes for any car manufacturer. Hopefully you’re having better luck with your cars!

@@glennschiffer1742 Yeah those are the worst years for cvt. Wouldn’t recommend one. My forester is at 290,000

40 mpg?

40mpg? Ain’t no way.

No way the best I ever got was 32 mpg on the highway doing 75mph for3 hours

​@@MrSubaru1387Down hill @50MPH with manual trans and strong tailwind and new, low rolling restance tires. That could be a way?

@@MrSubaru1387 I wouldn’t lie. It was down to 38 mpg by the time I got where I was going.

The 4 runner is an amazing car.

Those are good questions, and I'm also looking at the Corolla Cross hybrid and Crosstrek. The Crosstrek is not available as a hybrid. And although it gets good mileage, the mileage is not as good as the Corolla Cross. But, the Corolla Cross is hard to find (as with many Toyotas) and it could take many months to get one. The Crosstrek is available now. And you can expect a large mark up over MSRP with a Toyota. One more thing...I subscribe to Consumer Reports. I looked up the Crosstrek on their website. The predicted reliability is OUTDTANDING. The reliability score is 99 out of a hundred. Much, much higher than any Toyota CR evaluated. CR said the Crosstrek is the most reliable vehicle they have tested. That's saying a lot!