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Subaru CVT: Love It, Or Leave It! Not As Bad As You Think. Why The Manual Is Gone. 

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History 0:36
Why CVT 4:20
Why Kill The Manual Option 5:46
CVT Reliability 7:56
CVT Common Issues 10:04
CVT Misconceptions 12:24
Service Life 13:02
Longevity 15:45
Closing Remarks 18:52
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@danielmarcomataya8632
@danielmarcomataya8632 9 месяцев назад
As a technician for close to 50 years, I can assure you that subaru CVT units are above and beyond the disaster you see from belt driven units of other manufacturers. The important thing to remember with any transmission is to not overload or overwork them. It's never a good idea to be towing heavy trailers or go off-roading with anything and expect it to not be negatively impacted. But for everyday driving without racing to the next red-light constantly, you will get many years of dependable service. Keep.up.the good work Mr Subaru
@Tax2Me
@Tax2Me 6 месяцев назад
I totally agree. As we move into a more keep-it-for-ever mentality; only CV makes sense
@dmitripetrov5536
@dmitripetrov5536 6 месяцев назад
Yes , I agree. If you from those who racing to pass every yellow lights then Cvt or any type of transmission wouldn't last more than 100k miles, you need to switch to EV.
@ryanfliegel
@ryanfliegel 5 месяцев назад
For me, it's not that I think they're bad. It's the fact that I hate how they make the car feel. A manual will always feel better for me.
@pbeths59
@pbeths59 4 месяца назад
I must have got a lemon. CVT on 2024 Subaru Outback has left me stranded twice with only 2100 miles. Never buy one again!
@user-ds5ce2bu9j
@user-ds5ce2bu9j 3 месяца назад
It’s been said that the CVTF IS NOT ABLE TO BE REPAIRED AND REPLACING IT ,ITS NO ONLT THE CVTF that has to be replaced but the entire front weal drive unit with inhibiting cost ? of $4000 Dollars +? The Question is true or false ? ….
@denniswilson2893
@denniswilson2893 3 года назад
Just hit 220,000 miles on my 2010 outback cvt today
@williamkerry2626
@williamkerry2626 3 года назад
Man, that’s good news. I’ve seriously been stressed about the cvt. I run a 2000 5 speed with 300k and a 05 with 200k. The cvt has kept me from jumping into them. Now I’ll start hunting with cation
@bristergrigsby5196
@bristergrigsby5196 3 года назад
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@christianhernandez9172
@christianhernandez9172 3 года назад
Do you service it regularly?
@jakebiel8979
@jakebiel8979 3 года назад
I have a 2011 outback with a cvt at 164k. Had the valve body replaced at about 160k and has been good since.
@russellzauner
@russellzauner 3 года назад
@@williamkerry2626 2014 forester XT that's a salvage title rebuild that had 17k and change on it and we've put at least 50k on it *after* in the few years we've owned it. We run the HELL out of the Urban Combat Vehicle, and it's got a CVT *and* a turbocharged engine - so if we're going to break a Subie, lol it's gonna be that one. The FA20 engine series seems to be bulletproof. That's literally the only thing keeping us from grabbing up an Ascent - they've got a new powerplant and it puts up the same numbers in MPG/HP roughly but runs on regular gas, so we assume we'll be able to run super and git a few more ponies for trips. But new powerplant...I'd like to wait a couple more years and see the longer term reliability data, like the 3, 5, 7 year marks. But a stretch forester that has turbo runs on regular and can drag a boat or utility trailer around without dying on us (that's why we kept the Excursion, it's only insured when we need to move something). I was worried about the CVT. My wife was mad (how come it's our wives that are always angry that we didn't get the 6 speed?). Now she won't give it up. If we're above 35 MPH (basically in traffic) there is no problem getting around 95% of the jerks on the road, no matter what they are driving. We're faster than them when in motion, in agility and accel/decel. The cruise control follow feature works perfectly and I've never been in another car where it works so well and it's because it's literally build into the transmission/ECU control. Only when Eyesight gets blinded (IKR?) does autofollow not work and the granularity of control available since it's inside the ECU is stupid. You can follow people at 100MPH down the Columbia Gorge with a perfect 2 second lead time, I've literally timed it. The details that Subaru includes in modern models is crazy except for some reason even in the touring model, ONLY the drive gets power seat - I have manual as a passenger. Totally worth it. Pick up a 2014-2018 anything with CVT and the FA20 DIT and it's cash money. No lie. Use that car to tow the car you really want to mud with to the mud. :-) road trip in comfort, rage the dirt with performance. All Subie, all the time. Didn't mean to go on but we caught so much crap for buying a Subie turbo and I really got tired of telling people "it's not an EJ it's not an EJ it's not an EJ it's not an EJ" so I just started telling them it's the Toyota 86/Scion FR-S powerplant, except ours is direct turbo injection, legit crazy motor voodoo and just will not break as well as it's hella responsive - the turbo lag isn't there, by design. seems more like a weird supercharger to me...it's an odd duck but a good duck.
@jeffrey3498
@jeffrey3498 Год назад
What I like about you is that you obviously love Subaru, but at the same time you’re honest about things you don’t like. 😎👍
@paulsumpter9573
@paulsumpter9573 Год назад
Just purchased a '23 Outback Wilderness for my wife with the CVT. Never owned a CVT vehicle before and must say, I'm actually impressed. Especially like the ability to manually shift with the paddles. Live in the mountains of WV and being able to downshift to help hold back the car going down a mountain is great.
@bradh6185
@bradh6185 8 месяцев назад
Are you still glad about your purchase?
@goodshipharmony
@goodshipharmony 4 месяца назад
"For my wife with the CVT" 🤣
@spencerelliott9393
@spencerelliott9393 2 года назад
First time viewer. This guys seems especially honest because he understands human nature.
@MWorsa
@MWorsa Год назад
As someone who’s only owned manual transmission vehicles, I had a 2019 Legacy CVT as a loaner and thoroughly enjoyed it.
@The_Angry_Angiographer
@The_Angry_Angiographer Год назад
Subaru really does a great job covering repairs outside of warranty. I've had 7 Subarus and have had my fair share of issues with them, including the head gasket issue mentioned here. I also had a Forester that needed the engine wiring harness replaced to fix a stalling issue. I recently had a wheel bearing replaced under warranty by my dealer at 65k miles. I will absolutely own an 8th Subaru.
@TheDirthound
@TheDirthound 5 месяцев назад
Why 7 Subarus? How long and how many miles are you getting out these vehicles?
@MiltonFindley
@MiltonFindley 4 месяца назад
@@TheDirthound - I lease my Subbies, and keep them about 18 to 24 months. I also like how they handle, and all of the safety features. I am very happy with the CVT's that were in all of the 6 Subarus I have had. My turbo charged Ascent Touring is as good a car as I have ever had.
@luisavalon1
@luisavalon1 2 года назад
Hello MrSubaru, I just bought a Crosstrek 2022. I've heard to many bad thinks about the CVT transmission. Now that I've seen this video I feel better. I will remember to replace the transmission oil every 3 years no matter. Thank you.
@chuckt4465
@chuckt4465 3 года назад
REV UP YOUR BOXER ENGINES!! Totally underrated RU-vid Channel. Good info here,thanks👍
@Kur0y4m4
@Kur0y4m4 3 года назад
I... see what you did there ;)
@sealand000
@sealand000 3 года назад
Beam me up, Scotty!
@kenm3456
@kenm3456 3 года назад
My watching scotty found me this channel. The RU-vid algorithm pays off this time
@michaelbrennan7148
@michaelbrennan7148 3 года назад
Thank you for sharing your extensive knowledge about Subaru. Very much appreciated.
@EricGrassi
@EricGrassi 3 года назад
When I bought my 2019 Impreza premium I was skeptical but hopeful about the CVT. I grew to really love it. It just always seems to know where to be and it does really help with the mileage. I was impressed enough that I just traded up to a '21 Forester Sport and the CVT was a check in the pro column when deciding to buy rather than in the con. I've had the Forester a few days now and am loving it.
@bgrzesiak5996
@bgrzesiak5996 4 месяца назад
1- hauling a 20ft travel trailer with my '19 Ascent. Zero problems. 2 - driving Subaru CVT's since 2010. SIX different vehicles. ZERO problems. 2010 OB, 2013 OB 2014 OB 2015 Crosstrek 2017 OB 2019 Ascent.
@dune7824
@dune7824 2 месяца назад
How many miles do you put on your vehicles?
@jeffwatson2915
@jeffwatson2915 3 года назад
Thanks MrSubaru! I have lived your description. I trusted the "lifetime" fluid claim and the lifetime turned out to be 115,000 miles for my 2014 Forester. I had taken it in with under 100,000 complaining of increased slippage and the shop at my Subaru dealer couldn't duplicate the issue. They did not recommend changing the fluid and I figured they were the experts. To Subaru's credit, when the CVT failed 20,000 miles later, they initially said $9,000 for a new CVT / then half of it / then finally covered it for free after some persistence on my part. The failure was the valve body, but they didn't recommend replacing just that $700-$800 component, instead they recommended replacing the complete transmission (which they did.) The new transmission has the delayed start on takeoff that everyone hates about CVTs, but it seems smooth once it is rolling (no jerkiness like it is hunting for the right gear). From now on... drain and fill every 3 yrs / 36,000 miles and expect it to last the rest of the lifetime of the car. It's at 137,000 and looking and running like new.
@palebeachbum
@palebeachbum 2 года назад
$9,000 for a CVT replacement is by far the highest I've ever heard. Yikes! The Jatco CVTs in Nissans generally cost in the $5,000-$6,000 range and the new Hyundai/Kia CVT costs under $4,000. Subarus sound like the repair costs are in luxury car territory. That's scary to me.
@Abucody
@Abucody 3 года назад
Thank you again Mr.Subaru for all the good information.
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 3 года назад
You're welcome. 👍🏻
@libertyracing4603
@libertyracing4603 3 года назад
Was a bit hesitant about buying my 2010 outback at first. But it's been excellent. Had the torque converter failure as described, but was a simple replacement. Have been using it to tow my race car for several years and wasn't expecting it to last, but it's now at 270k and going strong. Surprisingly good at towing.
@hennricc-5238
@hennricc-5238 2 года назад
What are you towing with it? Total weight between car and trailer? Or are you flat towing it?
@libertyracing4603
@libertyracing4603 2 года назад
@@hennricc-5238 Hi mate, towing a tandem axle trailer. Haven’t weighed the trailer and car together, but I would expect that it’s on the 1500kg limit or just over.
@juliosdiy3206
@juliosdiy3206 Год назад
Holy smack thats amazing.
@zadokmotorfreight2423
@zadokmotorfreight2423 Год назад
Impressive!!
@JohnnyCBarrett
@JohnnyCBarrett 3 года назад
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for making this. I see a lot of shares of this video in my future and YES I did hit the "subscribe" button.
@ELP1125
@ELP1125 3 года назад
I driven two CVT cars before, a Toyota Corolla and a Chevy Malibu. The Chevy CVT is a bit noisy, had some rollback but overall was an ok experience. The Corolla CVT handled a bit better. The smooth shifting is nice and everything, but CVT makes me nervous that if I push it too hard, it’ll break. I have more confidence in gears, than a chain/belt. And I like how he’s subtly calling out Scotty, I mean somebody has too HaHaHa **insert horse image**
@queensapphire7717
@queensapphire7717 Год назад
The funny thing is that a CVT is basically a complicated, computer controlled version of the simple transmissions used on mini bikes and go karts back in the 70s, that were belt driven with 2 expanding and compressing pulleys, albeit those mechanically controlled by centrifugal force,but the same principle.
@TheRyanandKimberly
@TheRyanandKimberly 11 месяцев назад
@@queensapphire7717 Thanks for this. I just bought a Subaru and don't even know what a CVT is. I'm not a car guy.
@sbukosky
@sbukosky 3 года назад
I've had 3 Outbacks with CVT and my wife has had 4 Nissan's with CVT. The Subaru's definitely "feels" better. Haven't had any problems with any of them.
@robertdorr1769
@robertdorr1769 2 месяца назад
Yes, but at what mileage do you change your vehicles to a new one?
@TakeDeadAim
@TakeDeadAim Год назад
I just got a great deal on a 2012 OBW with only 63k on it. So far I've replaced the diff fluids and next on the list is the CVT. You provide great content in a very intelligent and thought out manner. Thanks for that!
@paulcwyuen
@paulcwyuen 3 года назад
I'm not a fan of CVT but then you explain that in a very sensible way I'm really impressed. Good work and thanks for the video.
@MWorsa
@MWorsa Год назад
You’ve driven a lot of them?
@joshmccoy1522
@joshmccoy1522 3 года назад
Thank you for this information. Anything "lifetime" worries me, and I knew fluids were not lifetime, therefore it must be "good till it breaks." That would be the lifetime. The fact that the fluids can be changed, and in fact are recommended in different countries, makes me feel a lot better. I'm a manual transmission guy myself, but my wife loves her 03 Forester, right now just a bit under 200k miles on it. She likes the look of the new Crosstrek, but I was leery because of the "lifetime" transmission.
@queensapphire7717
@queensapphire7717 Год назад
“Lifetime” applies to Powertrain warranty coverage, not the transmission itself, don’t be fooled.
@jamesbruno5896
@jamesbruno5896 3 года назад
Great video! My oldest CVT has almost 150k on her no issues so far 🤞 I have changed the fluid every 50k since new!
@Central-Scrutinizer
@Central-Scrutinizer 3 года назад
Subaru needs to focus on making the CVTs bulletproof, easy to service, and inexpensive to replace. If it were $3000 for a new transmission rather than $7000, that would take some of the dread out of buying one. Personally, I lament the disappearance of the manuals. Would have seriously considered a new Forester with the 6MT as I didn't want the FB25. Never got the option. Perhaps a physical first gear in the CVT would deal with some of the stress people put on them when soft roading and pushing trails. CVTs do not seem well suited for this kind of work. Manuals also have drawbacks, and conventional autos generally work best.
@AnIdiotwithaSubaru
@AnIdiotwithaSubaru Год назад
The TR690 locks its converter almost as soon as you start moving. I have had three years with my TR690 in my 2019 3.6R Outback and I can say for sure it's a well-built transmission. I abuse the hell out of that transmission, id say as hard as I did in my STi or WRX and it still works amazing. I tow, I floor it all the time, it's in Chicago city traffic constantly, its been on trails, and more. I'm about to service the oil for the first time and I'm a little worried but so far it hasn't missed a beat!
@matthewwain9958
@matthewwain9958 Год назад
100% agreed. Same with most of these 'black box' transmissions tbh. A Focus DCT transmission cost almost $6000 from Ford to replace. That's insane. It's a 165bhp (I think) engine for goodness sake. Absolutely banana's to be charging so much to customers for beta tech. Same with CVT's.
@queensapphire7717
@queensapphire7717 Год назад
Yep, a lot cheaper to replace a clutch than an entire trans, the more gears and complexity, which is directly related to squeezing out more MPG, as well as manufacturers replacing naturally aspirated 6s and 8s using metal components with turbocharged, GDI 4s using plastic components (radiators, tstat housings, intake manifolds, etc), exponentially raises the cost of service and reduces the life of the vehicle, in an effort to simply squeeze out a few more MPGs, and to raise the planned obsolescence quotient. “Lifetime” fluids are a separate discussion, whereas “Lifetime” applies to the warranty, not the lubricant.
@matthewwain9958
@matthewwain9958 Год назад
@@queensapphire7717 plus add on the embedded eyesight system for cost compared when buying the CVT model.
@douglasbroccone3144
@douglasbroccone3144 Год назад
I have a 2015 3.6r too, with 75k on it. Should I change or flush the cvt now? ​@@AnIdiotwithaSubaru
@iamironman616
@iamironman616 3 года назад
Thanks for the info i was beginning to get cold feet into buying a subaru because of the information on that other channel...but now im informed im gonna buy it!
@sehan622
@sehan622 3 года назад
Own the 2011 Outback, car is serviced precisely according to sevice manual, including all fluids. The car has not been undergoing any kind of misuse. No issues.😀 Good video😀
@VoltLink
@VoltLink 3 года назад
Its Ethan from Cecil's, appreciate the help at the shop and you are very educated. Keep up the good work bro
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 3 года назад
Hey, thanks, and you're welcome. 👍🏻
@hleigh842
@hleigh842 2 года назад
Very informative and helpful in understanding the facts instead of the uninformed hype. My CVT has performed flawlessly and I personally enjoy the power transfer feel it generates. Thanks
@powerboatguy2308
@powerboatguy2308 3 года назад
You bring up good points. I just bought a used 2013 Outback manual with the 2.5. It is rather difficult to research cars due to the internet being full of anger when people have issues, this cuts across all brands. I believe a couple of barometers of how good a car brand or car model is actually doing in the resale values and how many miles you are seeing on cars that are still functional. If you google BMW 3 series, you are going to find very few past the year 2000 with over 200k miles on them. A 130k mile 2008 BMW 328i is not worth as much as a 130 k mile 2008 Ford Mustang GT, probably not as much as a V6 Mustang when is cost a good bit more due to that car being unreliable. There are a lot of Subarus out there with 200k miles and still have value just like Toyotas.
@Oldbmwr100rs
@Oldbmwr100rs 2 года назад
Excellent explanation of the CVT issues from a factory technicians experiences, thanks for this. As for why the U.S. market seems to have these "lifetime fluids" in their drivelines is due to a large part of sales being leases. In these leases or even "free maintenance for the first X thousands of miles" is to keep the cost down for those agencies and nothing more. It has nothing to do with lifetime reliability of the vehicle, and in fact often leads to failure as you've seen. But who cares when every three years these customers just return the car and get another. Car payments go forever, but you always have a new car. If you bought the car and intend to keep it, an extended powertrain warranty is a good idea if it goes past the lifespan of these transmissions. Also even though the dealer is there for you, Subaru seems to have a good share of independent shops that specialize in the brand and the owners are very dedicated to making their customers want to keep their cars. Subies are a little different in layout and have their share of common issues, making a good independent shop worth finding. On top of that, any indie shop will tell you straight up that lifetime fluids are bunk and gladly do the service the dealership will refuse. I've worked on my share of these cars since the mid 80's, and have replaced head gaskets, resealed, did timing belt jobs, clutches and pretty much all the normal stuff on them. Not a big deal.
@Fatelvis2
@Fatelvis2 Год назад
how long of an extended warranty should you get ?
@rhomacity
@rhomacity 3 месяца назад
very honest reply, thank you.
@alexanderhamar6903
@alexanderhamar6903 3 года назад
Great video, I am really happy with my car! :D And here in Europe we have service interval 60000 km for CVT and differential and if the car has towbar service interval is 45000 km. So it should be like you said.
@ArcticHawk2003
@ArcticHawk2003 3 года назад
Great video! Having said this, I love my 2015 Forester 2.5i. Non stepped programming CVT transmission!
@robertlyon4804
@robertlyon4804 Год назад
Very honest video and thank you for all you posted. You helped me make up my mind about buying a 2023 Outback.
@roblack1000
@roblack1000 Год назад
I like the simplicity of the transmission (fewer parts) and the software has all the shift points perfect. It allows the motor to instantly give all the power you need.
@peppie1398
@peppie1398 3 года назад
Just bought a 2015 H6R Outback. Less then 100,000, miles. I have never driven a Subaru, but after driving her for a day, I love it!!!!!!!!
@mrtaylorhelm
@mrtaylorhelm Год назад
Mom just got a Subaru after having CVT problems in her 2008 Nissan Sentra (They told her it's a sealed system no fluid change) so you just got a subscriber. Thanks for all the info. Solid channel.
@jeffmolly927
@jeffmolly927 2 месяца назад
Lmao I just replaced my cvtf-II fluid in my transmission in my 2014lagacy
@jeddak
@jeddak 2 года назад
I got used to the Subaru CVT and now really appreciate what it does for fuel efficiency, compared to the older automatic transmissions.
@jeremycarlson376
@jeremycarlson376 3 года назад
My first CVT was in my 2007 Ford Five Hundred, once I got used to it I grew to like it. I drive a 2017 Outback now but the old Five Hundred is still running and has over 240,000 miles on it and I’ve only changed the CVT fluid once lol.
@waitingforparts57
@waitingforparts57 3 года назад
Great stuff. Been watching your videos over the past year and you have changed my opinion of Subaru. I heard all the noice before I came across your channel and got sucked into the hate retoric like everyone else. Glad you're out there with experience to share. Stay safe and well.
@barrykerr7540
@barrykerr7540 58 минут назад
Thank you for this informative stuff. I feel reassured. We are driving a 2014 Forester and have zero issues with the cvt or drive train . This is our 8th yes eighth Subaru. It is a very smooth drive. The car is the most comfortable to date.
@bobonthis9520
@bobonthis9520 2 года назад
I'm on my 2nd Outback. I've had zero issues with the CVTs. The CVT in my 2022 Wilderness Outback is a very slick rig. Thanks for the video.
@tharper26287
@tharper26287 3 года назад
Keep spreading the good news. Anything man made can and will break or wear out eventually. A vehicle is only as good as the care and love that you put into it. Great video and content. Keep them coming. 👍
@tysauce1986
@tysauce1986 2 года назад
If it's got tits or wheels, you're guaranteed to have problems.
@Uzbal
@Uzbal 3 года назад
I will agree with you. There are bad apples. I remember getting the CVT extended warranty letter in the mail. Subaru’s are great cars and I will continue to buy them in the future. Maybe I got a lemon CVT, who knows. What I am happy about is how awesome SOA is with handling these problems and the fact that they are helping me with my Outback. I urge people to really stay on the maintenance schedule and service the CVT frequently.
@mrmonk7197
@mrmonk7197 Год назад
Love your show. Your dialouge, content, and production continue to improve. Great job.
@jemtec1
@jemtec1 3 года назад
Great info! Thanks!
@CarsSimplified
@CarsSimplified 2 года назад
The CVT in my 2018 Crosstrek has been great! I also don't have any engine oil consumption issues (and I have always run 0W-20).
@FranklinHicks-qs4gs
@FranklinHicks-qs4gs Год назад
I'm c9nsidering a crosstrek. Do you have the 2.0 or 2 5? How many miles ?
@CarsSimplified
@CarsSimplified Год назад
2.0 with very close to 90,000 miles now. I'm actually working on a review but I'm in the early stages of writing that.
@z1az285
@z1az285 Год назад
@@CarsSimplified Interesting, i own a 2018 limited legacy myself and i didn't want to change the CVT fluid unless it was absolutely required, but was told during the 60k service (12k miles a year, not heavy driving or towing ) that the fluid had turned dark and it had which was surprising to me, and replaced the fluid totally. Not that I had issues but the CVT did appear to skip at 40 mph. That's not the case now but I'm not sure now when I can replace the transmission fluid once i cross 120k miles other than to top it off. Maybe once before i hit 100k miles, but that's it really because once the gears wear out, it wouldn't be a good idea at least from what forums say , not even a drain and fill. My VW GLX Passat (that I owned before the legacy) lasted 250,000 miles before the transmission failed and i never replaced the fluid once, only topped it off. It was a synthetic Auto transmission fluid from Audi and was supposed to last for the vehicles lifetime.
@craigt9415
@craigt9415 2 года назад
Our family owns several Subarus. 2 crosstrek, 2 outback, 2 foresters. Not a single CVT issue on any of them. I love how smooth the CVT is paired with my 3.6R.
@georgebrown8660
@georgebrown8660 Год назад
What year Forester
@danielmarcomataya8632
@danielmarcomataya8632 9 месяцев назад
They will last a long time with normal driving. Avoid towing trailers, off-roading, and racing to each red light and never have a problem. Even with a stick shift transmission, beating up on it will burn up a clutch rather quickly, not to mention the added stress to the engine and the rest of the car. Think of your car as you would your own body. If you beat up and neglect yourself constantly, how much will your lifespan be shortened.
@saraaronzon4562
@saraaronzon4562 2 года назад
Thank you so much. Best review yet. I have great confidence in Subaru.
@joelrodriguez1806
@joelrodriguez1806 2 года назад
Thank you for your insight on the Subaru cvt transmission. I'm currently looking to buy a car for my daughter to go college and the choice of preference is between Honda crv, Subaru or Toyota. Of course all being a small suv.4-5 years old for her first car. I hope Subaru is paying you well for your representation of there products. Thanks again, you just eased my mind on the product.
@uluibaut
@uluibaut 2 года назад
Thank you!! 😊 I will go ahead and buy my wife the new Forester she's been wanting. I held off due to listening to others complain about CVT. You video has helped alot. I even went further to research about Lineartronic CVT. Much confident now. Cheers.
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 2 года назад
Congrats on the new Forester!
@yellowboxster06
@yellowboxster06 2 года назад
I’ve owned an Outback, a Legacy, and a Forester since 2010 all with CVTs. No issues although I wasn’t enamored with the paddle shifter mode on the earlier CVTs. In the end it wasn’t a serious issue because I don’t actually like paddle shifters.
@ARobFpv007
@ARobFpv007 3 года назад
Great video and well explained on the CVT
@Scott.Kristiansen
@Scott.Kristiansen 2 года назад
Love the way you put everything forth. Just bought a 2010 Outback 2.5l with 193k on the clock. You are the first channel I ended up running into regarding maintenance. Since I never drove a CVT it just feels weird to me especially on the downshift to 1st. Hoping thats normal lol.
@TebowTime2014
@TebowTime2014 3 года назад
Words cannot describe how helpful this was. Coming from only owning and working on a 4.0 Jeep and 07 Accord. The CVT was my only concern when looking at the WRX and Forester.
@queensapphire7717
@queensapphire7717 Год назад
Loved those 4.0 Jeeps, I had a ‘91, now I have a 2016 JKU Sahara, and soon to have a 2010 JK Rubicon, both have less than 60k miles. The minute I get the 2010, all fluids (engine oil, diffs, Xfer case, etc) will be changed.
@christian-gu5oq
@christian-gu5oq Год назад
Don’t do it the Subaru cvt is a nightmare if I were you I’d stay away I’ve had 2 of them go on 2 different cars
@sparkymedic
@sparkymedic Год назад
Why on earth would anyone buy an automatic WRX? That thing should only be sold as a manual. So fun to drive!
@xVern
@xVern 3 года назад
I have 3 Vivios, all with the eCVT. It's so fun in those tiny cars.
@ogge81
@ogge81 2 года назад
This made me feel even better about my 2011 Legacy. Thank you!
@hansjeannot4227
@hansjeannot4227 Год назад
Mr Subaru, thank you for all the infos you put out. With your help, I was able to remove my outback's dash board and replace the air vent actuators. Thank you.
@crackerbarn
@crackerbarn 2 года назад
I change the CVT every 50k-60k miles. I have 120k+ miles on my 2018 Forester and religiously do the services, CVT, oil, differentials and radiator fluids. So far no issues. Very happy with the car.
@gorimar4505
@gorimar4505 2 года назад
you change the whole transmission every 50k miles? that is not normal lol
@crackerbarn
@crackerbarn 2 года назад
@@gorimar4505 I change the CVT oil every 50k not the transmission itself.
@richeyrich2203
@richeyrich2203 2 года назад
@@crackerbarn lol
@swkohnle08
@swkohnle08 3 года назад
My 2016 OB got its CVT fluid changed at 36K after I demanded my dealer do it. I told them it was heavy off-road use so reluctantly they did it. My new 2019 OB will get its CVT fluid changed at 36K miles and I plan to argue heavy duty off road use again with my dealer. I expect they will argue against it as before. But I love my Subaru Outback and very happy with the brand overall. Thanks for a very good, informative video as always.
@thepartysalmon
@thepartysalmon 2 года назад
Outstanding video. Your practical experience and information helped me make my decision. Well done sir.
@craiggoodman7
@craiggoodman7 Год назад
Very informative! I love Subaru and will continue to purchase their vehicles... Thanks for the great video and all the others!!!
@SpeedStik
@SpeedStik 3 года назад
In Canada on my 2017 2.5i Outback the first transmission fluid and differential service is listed at 100,000 km / 60 Months in the maintenance manual. Just did mine the other day at 109k km. Was way easier than I expected. Just a drain and fill. Will do another one in 50k probably when the warranty runs out at 160k km.
@hereigoagain5050
@hereigoagain5050 3 года назад
Thanks! I wonder how many of the Subie fails were due to abuse. Some people treat them more rally cars than grocery runners for snowy days.
@secularfoundingperiodhistory
excellent video, thanks for your enlightened, practical, frank and honest opinion on everything, I feel much better now....
@scottgriffin449
@scottgriffin449 2 года назад
Love the information and the content on your channel
@weeekwo3245
@weeekwo3245 3 года назад
extremely informative, m8 🤓
@motodrang4287
@motodrang4287 2 года назад
Great video, just bought a wilderness outback and the dealer covers the transmission for life past the factory warranty, which validates your points. It was a great driving car but I guess we’ll find out.
@richeyrich2203
@richeyrich2203 2 года назад
What does it mean that they validate the trans? And does the warranty void if you change the fluid? Will they replace the trans free if it goes out in 10 years at 175k miles?
@andrewmantle7627
@andrewmantle7627 2 года назад
I have been looking for this info regarding a vehicle I own, Thank you.
@johnnumbat9782
@johnnumbat9782 2 года назад
Thanks for the in depth report and clarification MrSubaru - here in Australia I’ve owned 10 models - 1997, 1998 x 2, 1999, 2000 and 2010 XT Foresters - 81 Leone Wagon, 1990 Liberty Wagon, 96 Outback and WRX GC8 - except for the 1990 Liberty Wagon all cars have performed faultlessly thanks to diligent servicing and regular oil changes - non of them had oil draining or gasket issues and even got my 1997 Forester to 425000 kms before the camshaft seized - didn’t like the CVT driving experience so now own a Toyota Hilux - will keep my XT though - John in SA
@cougar1968wy
@cougar1968wy 3 года назад
Nice common sense style video. Thank you for putting out there what people should be able to figure out on their own (Concerning bad reviews), but often times won’t use any type of critical thinking in doing so.
@jonathanb1987
@jonathanb1987 3 года назад
I'm glad my wife and I ordered our 2016 Forester in manual. I believe the last year the manual transmission was available in a Forester was 2017.
@eliasmelendez1271
@eliasmelendez1271 3 года назад
2018 or 2019 because they made a black edition that my friend bought with a manual transmission but it did came with a FB25 not a FA20
@musicalgreasemonkey
@musicalgreasemonkey 3 года назад
Proud owner of a 2018 6 speed manual forester 🙋‍♂️ I dont hate the cvt, I appreciate what it does for passenger ride and comfort, I prefer manual to own though
@jerrywetherall9612
@jerrywetherall9612 3 года назад
Yeah, it’s a real bummer you can no longer get a Forester with manual transmission. I love my 2006 Forester with stick. It’s still in great shape so I guess I’ll hang onto it forever as I rev match off into the sunset.
@JOHNWLOUCKS
@JOHNWLOUCKS 3 года назад
@@musicalgreasemonkey 2006 Forester with a manual....no problems. Only 95 k.
@musicalgreasemonkey
@musicalgreasemonkey 3 года назад
@@JOHNWLOUCKS what a great ride! Poughkeepsie...NY? Hello from Pawling
@paulbutler5067
@paulbutler5067 3 года назад
Thank you for the reassuring information on the Subaru CVT. We have 2 Hondas with CVTs, a 2015 Accord and a 2017 CRV. Absolutely no problems and they seem to keep the engine in just the right range for maximum efficiency. My brother has a 2018 Subaru Crosstrek with the CVT and it too has had no issues. I love taking that care out for a drive. But of course when I want a more enthusiastic driving experience I take out my sons 2018 WRX 2.0 turbo 6spd manual. I only wish that drivetrain was available in the Crosstrek. I think it is still available with the 2.0 manual but not the turbo.
@josephapeters
@josephapeters 2 года назад
This is all very informative. My front differential transmission is starting to fail on my 2011 Outback with 165k miles. In a serious debate as to whether to repair or look for a newer car. For the record, I’ve been diligent about completing my services in a timely manner, all through the dealership.
@bcal5962
@bcal5962 3 года назад
Your videos are the best. This was great
@1linkbelt
@1linkbelt 3 года назад
You are correct, Sir and He does not wave his arms all over the place when talking. lol
@mtnrunner2
@mtnrunner2 2 года назад
Totally agree. I love my CVT especially in the mountains, because if I need more speed, I just push on the gas pedal. No need to think about what gear I'm in. I had the valve body replaced at 130k, probably because of mountain driving and being a bit of a lead foot, but like you said, I'd rather have brand new components and not worry about them.
@louiscle1622
@louiscle1622 2 года назад
You are the only the person to point out the quick power response, i love mine too. its satisfying.
@hobo1704
@hobo1704 Год назад
Do you need to worry about what gear you are in, in a torque converter automatic?... 🙄
@mulisha0351
@mulisha0351 Год назад
if you cant figure out what gear you need to be in, then you dont need a manual. anyone who drive a mani all the time knows what gear to be in...
@Nono-rh4lr
@Nono-rh4lr 10 месяцев назад
Agreed. Mountain driving is easier when the CVT has almost infinite gear range. Reduces hunting completely.
@theamazinggoldfish8713
@theamazinggoldfish8713 Год назад
Yeah I almost gave up and at the last minute found an Impreza hatchback sport in "Manual" transmission, and I'm so glad I did. Loving my 5 speed and still getting 28mpg. 🏹🤠👍
@bellini2535
@bellini2535 4 месяца назад
Everything is crystal clear now. What a narration.
@troywargo9882
@troywargo9882 3 года назад
I have a 2013 XV w/CVT and tow a 1000lbs camper and have 80K miles on my XV and service the CVT every 60K and I have never had a problem.
@treborg777
@treborg777 3 года назад
So, you've blown the OE warranty on the CVT? Servicing good, loosing warranty not so good.
@troywargo9882
@troywargo9882 3 года назад
@@treborg777 The OME 100k runs out in 20K. The dealership gave a lifetime power train.
@johnpflug1567
@johnpflug1567 3 года назад
Our 2006 Outback had an automatic transmission with the spin on filter on top. Still worked flawlessly when we traded it in at 149k. I changed the transmission filter twice, and the fluid every 25k.
@joebrown9621
@joebrown9621 3 года назад
Mitsubishi had an external oil filter in the 90's they had a rash a tranny failure as nobody never ever changed the filter 😅.. the early 2000 models still had the casting for the filter but wasn't drilled out Mitsubishi wasn't taking any chances again people run the filter tilt they were plugged
@psychobilly4162
@psychobilly4162 2 года назад
I'm glad I found this. I'm getting a new car for work in the next 6 months (assuming there's anything left to buy) and I really want a Subie. I live in a snow-prone area, but I have a lot of city and hill driving (and I suck with a manual) so the auto will make more sense. I have friends who've had Nissan CVTs consume themselves with very low miles so I am very nervous with CVTs.
@johnlasher3103
@johnlasher3103 3 года назад
Thank you so much for this info as always, Mr Subaru. I have a 2015 Forester premium and I LOVE the CVT transmission (see what I did?). I’m at 70K miles, and never have changed the transmission fluid due to the “lifetime fluid” recommendation from Subaru. I think I’m going to change it as soon as I can afford to.
@jeremiahjorenby2275
@jeremiahjorenby2275 3 года назад
I have a 2012 Outback Premium with the EJ253 and the TY756VHCDA 6 speed and I love it. I'm towing my 6×12 utility trailer with it tomorrow and tossing a 2015 WRX clutch in it on Monday. I just wish the US had the EJ255 in the 5th gen Legacy wagon like Japan did; fun fact, the drivetrain from the 2010-12 Legacy GT is direct bolt in to the 2010-12 Outback as they share the same body harness.
@snikesnover1831
@snikesnover1831 3 года назад
I just bought a brand new Crosstrek with the 6 speed manual and I love it. It’s silly they don’t offer it with the 2.5 engine!
@artilleryisbetter
@artilleryisbetter 3 года назад
the 2011+ Forester has the FB25 with manual but it is not a whole lot faster, better load-end torque for sure.
@mirceamunteanu4791
@mirceamunteanu4791 3 года назад
My Old man got a RAV 4 Trail (Adventure USA), 8 speed auto, and he loves it, very responsive,fast and warms up quickly compared to my Subaru Impreza 2017 (CVT same as current Impreza or Crosstrek)
@oddities-whatnot
@oddities-whatnot 2 года назад
In the UK its a hybrid only these days with the 2 litre engine. I didnt want one because the hybrid is pointless on Subaru. No better economy.
@brunothepug8807
@brunothepug8807 3 года назад
2021 Outback owner and its my first Subaru and first CVT equipped vehicle. I dont mind the CVT at all. Seems very smooth to me.
@MonacellaGuitarProductions
@MonacellaGuitarProductions 2 года назад
Had 1993 Legacy auto, 2011 Impreza auto, 2016 legacy cvt, and 2022 wrx cvt. They definitely get better each iteration. The newest version in wrx offers more control over the engine than traditional auto, and it's a blast as daily driver and for spirited driving.
@masjut1
@masjut1 2 года назад
I got my first Subaru this year. An Ascent. Love the car. The cvt is ok so far. A little different than the Honda transmissions I’m used to , but really love the car.
@jupitercyclops6521
@jupitercyclops6521 2 года назад
How often are you supposed to service? The book doesn't say & can't take a dealerships word
@skmadam-h2m
@skmadam-h2m 2 года назад
@@jupitercyclops6521 Normal Maintenance Schedule (2022 Ascent) : 6000 miles/ 6 months/, 12000 miles/12 months, 18,000 miles / 18 month service......
@kevinW826
@kevinW826 3 года назад
A buddy of mine use to be a certified Subaru mechanic. His wife has a forester with the CVT. Her mother has an Outback with the CVT. Both vehicles are still going, granted the forester needs $5000 Canadian in repairs which they are looking at trading in for a crosstrek. Bother vehicles have almost 200,000 kms on them.
@mx1742
@mx1742 3 года назад
Yep, when I heard the last manual for an Outback was 2014, I went and bought a used one in 2015 with 33K on the dial, I also like that it was the first year of the 2.5L with the timing chain!, Still doing the TB on my 1999 Outback, but I love working on that one
@dannytu0322
@dannytu0322 3 года назад
2015 Outback 3.6 with 65K miles, just did a CVT fluid change at the dealer. No issues, my family loves this car.
@chrisb9478
@chrisb9478 3 года назад
We’ve had 3 Subaru vehicles with Cvt’s. I’ve grown to really like them for their smoothness & efficiency. I have the dealer change the fluid every 40k and have never had a problem.
@Benjamin-David
@Benjamin-David 3 года назад
How many miles do you have on your highest mileage CVT?
@chrisb9478
@chrisb9478 3 года назад
No real high mileage yet. 16 Forester 93k and a 17 Outback 78k we traded for a 21 Outback XT 3k
@PRO4XKEV
@PRO4XKEV 3 года назад
Some Dealers will not change the CVT fluid because they say 100k is the service and they will not stray from that which IMO is crap.. every 40k-50k is best for fluid change.
@chrisb9478
@chrisb9478 3 года назад
Yeah, Hunter Subaru in NC changed the CVT fluid no problem, I basically had to demand Phil Hughes in GA to do it.
@kungfusing1
@kungfusing1 3 года назад
I’ve had a Subaru Outback, Mitsubishi Outlander and Honda CRV with CVT transmissions. All 100% reliable. Granted the most km is 100k but they all seem rock solid.
@marktepper3440
@marktepper3440 2 года назад
Great Review, I have no issue with the CVT in my 2021 Crosstrek Sport. I get great gas mileage and it’s quite refined!
@MTB831
@MTB831 2 года назад
Same here, so far so good @ 21,xxx miles
@robertcochran7103
@robertcochran7103 Год назад
Thank you for posting this. I am thinking that at my next regular service, I better get the CVT fluid changed in my 2019 Forester.
@michaelgreene8438
@michaelgreene8438 2 года назад
Appreciate it man. I'm going to buy a 2021 forester monday and kept hearing bad stuff about the engines but hearing good stuff about everything else so i was getting scared.
@terryyouth
@terryyouth 2 года назад
I have got one a year old. It has all the safety features, only thing i miss is a turbo. People who have had Subaru, their next car is also a Subaru. for some it runs in the family. You should be okay
@MIkegrimm2
@MIkegrimm2 3 года назад
I Like the CVT on my 14 Outback and 18 Crosstrek. The only thing I wish they did not do was place the fake shifts in the 18 Crosstrek. It just feels like they lose some of their efficiency when accelerating. My 14 Outback is approaching the 120K (I am at 105K miles right now) mile interval where the CVT fluid needs to be inspected, I guess I will see where that goes when it is inspected. I have had a Subaru since 1996, they have been reliable vehicles for me that happens to be a very versatile vehicle in all weather conditions.
@supershimadabro6839
@supershimadabro6839 2 года назад
Subarus aren't unreliable. They're just higher maintenance. I'll always own a Subaru.❤❤
@gabecruz1045
@gabecruz1045 2 года назад
What do u mean higher maintenance?
@RareGenXer
@RareGenXer 24 дня назад
Are you in marketing? 😆
@ER-kh7rz
@ER-kh7rz Год назад
Loved the insight on the transmission fluid replacement at 3yr / 36,000. totally agree from a mechanical maintenance standpoint 💯
@johnlong384
@johnlong384 Год назад
Thanks for your very detailed & informative clips (I have a 2010 Forester with ~135K) and yes, you look much more serious without wearing the cap backwards too - take care!
@gariepyf
@gariepyf 2 года назад
I love my Subaru CVT. Nothing wrong with it. I love the feel. It's much better than a regular automatic IMO. But the hate is unreal !
@gorimar4505
@gorimar4505 2 года назад
my CVT completely died at 37k miles and had to be replaced. the hate comes from somewhere! lol, anyway, manuals for me from now on.
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 2 года назад
And mine is at 218,500 miles with no major issues. You got a dud. It happens. They don't all come out perfect...
@jupitercyclops6521
@jupitercyclops6521 2 года назад
@@MrSubaru1387 I can't find info in my manual on how often to service, what fluid to use. Little own how to service. A video on how to service would be nice
@jupitercyclops6521
@jupitercyclops6521 2 года назад
@@MrSubaru1387 Just watched you talk about it. A video on how to would be nice
@lp2565
@lp2565 3 года назад
Great video. Wife's 2018 Outback. At 30k miles I asked the dealer to service the CVT. They didn't want to do the service until I firmly insisted.
@robertsevigny8256
@robertsevigny8256 3 года назад
Good info here,thanks
@originalkontrol
@originalkontrol Год назад
Great conversation about the CVT. I will likely end up with one in the future... I love my 6 speed manual SJ, but did have a 2021 loaner with the CVT, and I was actually prettty impressed with it. Especially compared to my sisters 2023 HRV with a CVT. Love it or hate it, Subaru does it best!
@queensapphire7717
@queensapphire7717 Год назад
Do you feel it “shift”, I have not driven a CVT equipped automobile yet, yeah plenty of those old mini bikes and go karts, but not a car. I cannot imagine driving and not feeling it move up and down in gears, almost seems you would lose some torque.
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