Subaru vs Evo! - Grand Tour Track Battle 

My head says Evo, heart says Scooby, wallet says 1.3 cdti corsa!

ALWAYS LOVED THE EVO OVER SUBARU FROM DAY ONE I LOVE THE SHAPE OF IT BRILLIANT CAR GLAD HAMMOND PLULLED THE TRIGGER AND INVESTED IN ONE ITS A PROPER CLASSIC CAR

It’s the evo for me

Why didn't ben wear his stig outfit

no ones driving that evo home, at least you got a reason to put a banging clutch in it!

lol

Wife material smart!

Ben: "Handbrakes a bit milky, init" Mike: "Don't you dare" Ben: *laughs in already did*

He must have at least a little confidence in Mike's driving ability, banter aside.

​@OldWhitebelly he has to. Riding passenger on track and just casually pulling your buddies e-brake? I might know 1 person I'd trust to do that to.

@@GregoryGreg87 That's one more than I know ;)

"I'm showing you the track." 😂😂😂

You are just being polite. EVO is a far superior vehicle :)

I was always an evo guy but got a subaru after a test drive. The sound is beautiful

Nah not for me. Soo basic

@smartgorilla from what I see in the comments, majority seems to approve of a non car enthusiast. Obviously, the top gear three will never be beaten. However, I think the original review of Martin she done was class.

Blown head gasket says what?

​@@sethjansson5652😂 brilliant

100% agree.

As a Subaru fan, Yellow EVO VIII is an exception.

@@sethjansson5652yet the evo was the one that broke down👀

I thought the same thing, crazy.

why ? easy to work on 100 percent goes to subaru .reliable is debatable ... just because the evo can get more power out the box doesn't make it more reliable ...

@@jackgtir1 how about we try changing spark plugs, or a timing belt, or remove the turbo?

Reliable and subaru don't go together

@jaroslavmrazek5752 can literly do any one inside an hour ... ever done a clutch in an evo ? Lol

meh

She hasn't crashed yet, so not really.

😂 give her time. You can see she enjoys the car world more and more with every video she's in.

Can you clarify what you mean by the Subarus engine mounted high, slung out front? Compared to the evos very much upright transverse four. Nearly the entire Subaru brochures from yesteryear banged on about the 'low slung' flat four.

@@PPC4it’s mounted low correct, but the engine is hanging out in the front of the car to make room for the gearbox. The front wheel axles go directly in the gearbox hence the engine is pushed out to the front of the car. So you have the engine connected to the gearbox and the front wheel axels going into the gearbox. Hence the engine needs to hang out front. The Evo has to do a 90degree turn via the gearboxes to get the power to the front wheels.

@@PPC4 Ah the power of "marketing" What FHIs marketing department did was actually really quite clever, and the managed to hoodwink a lot of people, including most of the motoring press of the time. FHI claimed "our flat four engine has a low center of gravity" which is in fact absolutely true. A bare engines CofG is measured in terms of it's height above the crankshaft centre line, so yes, a flat engine indeed has the lowest possible CofG architecutrally speaking. What FHI failed to mention, was that the thing that actually matters is the INSTALLED CofG, and here, things go south quickly. Firstly, you need to leave space under the engine for exhaust manifolds and the sump, so the crank has to be high relative to the lowest installed point of the engine. Secondly, you have to couple the engine to a transmission and have a clutch, which in a road car that needs a practical/affordable clutch (ie no 80mm carbon-carbon race clutches here) means the engine again gets lifted up. So, when you measure the engine CofG when installed in a Scoob, it actually ends up higher than that of a well installed transverse inline engine ie like the Evo has. Then because of the 4wd system that FHI was wedded too (See: "marketing" again) that engine has to be infront of the front axle lateral centre line, so now not only is your engine high, it's well forwards too. So, your vehicle is now absolutely laid out in a physically non-optimum fashion, and nothing can change that. You always have a high CofG, a large polar moment of intertia and a forwards mass distribution. You can mess with chassis settings to try to dynamically move that mass around, but ultimately, everything you do to achieve that reduces max lateral acceleration, ie cornering speed.......

​@maxtorque2277 Sweet point, I never thought about how far forward the flat 4 sits, make so much sense now when I drove a new wrx couldn't work out why it felt like it understeered far worse than a awd should, heck the fwd Renault's we had had less understeer than the new wrx

The amount of people who don’t know this is mental. You can never get rid of understeer in a subaru unless you run active diffs like the wrc cars did. Terrible weight distribution and the heavy engine mounted miles upfront just like an Audi. Internet talk always said they just need a stiffer rear anti roll bar, lol they need more than that. The engine indeed is mounted high up aswell, sheep just consume all the marketing BS. Even a ford cosworth from the 80’s/90’s has a better weight distribution and gearbox design.

I thought the same thing. Ben might as well have had the suit on. I could see him so perfectly.

Yep. The racing driver knows which car is for a man 🤭

They're more interested in making ships and fridges.

Already in the works. 🤫😉

Mitsubishi Motors doesn't really exist as they once were. They are Nissan in all but name now. It's a shame if you ask me, loved the old Mitsubishi

@@RichterBeyondsame, fun car

Mitsubishi and Nissan are part of Renault and all three use same architecture now for all models. EVO will never come back as too costly for a single model and the WRX is pretty much at the end of its life cycle. RIP both of you.

That's bc the EVO has working turn signals.

@@ejejjeje lol