I drive a 2018 WRX. Cobb stage 1 tuned. Diverter valve, so mine does a chopping “stu stu stu” that we all love. 2” lift spacers with Sparco Terra gold wheels and Falken Wildpeaks and mud flaps. It’s sick as hell.
Not worth it to get an STI if you’re gonna slam it, you throw the $10,000 worth of performance upgrades out the window once you slam it on bags to be a show car im not even hating on stance btw it just makes zero sense when you could spend the difference on bags and wheels for the wrx
It's a flex being able to do something different and modify the top trim model of a vehicle to the way you want; why settle for a lesser trim if you can afford to get what you want?
@@anthonycordova3383imo these cars don’t belong on bags or to be stanced out. If that’s your goal then the wrx is better for you since you won’t miss out on the driving feel that you get from the sti. Night and day difference driving both cars
If you’re looking for a car to race. Subaru isn’t for you man. We out here flexing and having fun that’s what it meant for me. Not sure about other Subieowner.
During the 6 years I had my WRX I always wish I had a STI. Now that I have a STI I couldnt see myself going back. As a daily driver i can say a WRX is a little more comfortable to just get in and go, in the STI its more of a raw and mechanical feel that could seem less comfortable especially since ive changed out most bushing and mounts. It truly depends if you have the funds to afford the STI, insurance, gas, and other maintenance things like brakes.
he didn't even mention the most significant difference, the handling, STI got the goods with front LSD, center DCCD diff, and rear LSD, and WRX got open front diff and open rear diff with electronic vectoring using brakepads 😅
Exactly brother. Me going from the 2017 WRX to a 2020 STI is awesome. The overall driving experience is better to me in the STI. I never thought that Subaru would not ever make an STI.
The Wrx was definitely better for a daily commuter. More comfortable, far better mpg around town (stock for stock) also a good degree more reliable, it was also nice that the Wrx comes with an oil temp sensor from factory. If it was an only car I would recommend the Wrx over the Sti as it’s more reliable, cheaper to mod to about 300-350whp and easier on the wallet for fuel. Now if you have a second car, the sti all the way. Better seats, better suspension, better awd system, 2 lsd, dccd, bulletproof trans good for 750 whp, better sounding whether you stay ulh or go to elh, cost more but has a much higher power ceiling. Better brakes and handling, better intercooler from factory. Maintenance between the 2 is pretty close especially if you use good fluids and parts, although some shops will charge a premium because it says sti on your car. Insurance didn’t cost anymore for me on my 21 sti than it did for the 2020 Wrx I drove previously. Mpg on the sti can be improved, good tune, and a fpr can go a long way. On 91 my stage 3 sti will get about 17-18 mpg city and 22-23 freeway. On e85 that’s a different story hahah about 14-16 city 18-20 freeway.
Bro I’m not joking. I have an 09 Wrx pushing 300whp FBO. After reading your comment I went to test drive an 2015 STI, and I fell in love with the STI. I bought it the day before Father’s Day. 2 hours one way to get it. Just love love the car. Lol
Depends on your goals. For most folks the WRX is perfect. Upgrade your tires, suspension, and a short throw and you'll have a fun car. STI is great for those with a bigger budget. It comes with a better tranny, suspension, the DCCD, brake set ups, etc. Just remember most cars outdrive the driver for a long time. I have owned WRX and STI since 08. 08 WRX, 19 WRX, and an 18 STI. The WRX's definitely have the daily driver feel way more than the STI when considered as stock. You will not be mad about getting a WRX if you are a baller on a budget. Be wise with your money. I waited until my house and stuff were paid off before I got my STI. Now I have a huge budget for upgrades too.
Had a wrx before I bought my 21 sti and I couldn’t imagine ever going back to a wrx , the sti is better then the wrx at literally everything except I’d say MPG . If you can afford the sti get it , it’s miles better then the wrx . If your on a budget go for the wrx but if you have the funds go for the sti . But do not ever go for the cvt if you can only get the wrx learn manual . The cvt is absolutely terrible and shifts terrible and they go out prematurely . Love the vid brother !
@@chris_borgesit's not only better on paper, it's better in reality, literally every track test and data, tell me how in Car and Driver's Lightning Lap testfrom 10 years ago a STI did 10 seconds ahead of the newest WRX and how the newest WRX placed one of the worst times ever in Lightning Lap 2024.
One key area the Wrx wins out is longevity. If you drive both and maintain both the same, the Wrx will likely last an extra 40k -60k miles over the sti before it needs a rebuild.
I started watching since you had the wrx because I had one, but I’ve definitely stuck around for all your other content! Great job Chris and keep up the great work!
been in my 19 wrx for over 2 years now. immediately after sitting in that interior, i knew i wanted to throw the STi recaros in there. by the time i round out my interior with everything i wanna do to it, it’ll basically look like an STi on the inside. back when i got my car, the market was wild, but today i can get a newer STi with less miles for cheaper than i paid for my wrx.
I love my WRX just been saving up to add stuff to it. But goal is to make it look like your old WRX! That inspired me to try to upgrade my WRX after I bought it
For my wrx I only run shell 93 tuned at 300HP and 321 tq and I get 26 mpg. What I love about my wrx is the money I saved from buying the wrx Ive been able to put into mods making my wrx a blast and I never feel like I shouldve gone for the STI. However, one day I will buy an 05-07 STI for my dream build but for now I love my wrx it has been so good to me.
Ever since i was introduced to the WRX i knew it had to be my dream car. Now i own a 2018 WRX premium and its my summer daily/project car and I love everything about it.
Hey mate the sti has better suspension at front end but same at rear with a change in spring rates etc after 2018. STI vs wrx is like race car for road vs road car with extra performance and still comfort
Appreciate the video. I had an 18 wrx and now have a 17 sti and I love the sti a lot more personally. Just the way it handles and the way the car feels in general is night and day. The wrx feels light and not as planted. Also the extra power and the way the transmission feels. I mean if you can afford it I think the sti is a no brainer
had a basic bolt on wrx and recently got an sti making a bit more power and the difference is night and day between to 2, after buying the STi i’m not sure what i was even thinking buying and modifying the WRX
the biggest difference is the transmission you can build power with both motors but the driveline is what you feel when you drive the car the sti has everything you want in a drivers car, but if what something cool to learn the basics on get a bare bones wrx theyre both amazing but theres a reason why sti's hold their value.
one thing i hate about the wrx, is the seats. You sit too close to the gas pedal if you want to be able to full press the clutch down. Maybe it's just me, but thats one of the main thing i like about the sti over the wrx
I've wanted an STI for so long. I think the best part about them is the raw mechanical driving experience. It's gotten difficult to find them unmodified. I was so close to getting one a couple months ago. Found one unmodified with 35k miles, but it got sold the day before I went to the dealership... Personally, I think I've had my fun with turbo 4 cylinders. I'm itching to get into something N/A V8 now lol.
In my opinion, the STI is much better. A better overall driving experience for me. I drive from Oceanside ca to my job in Irvine Ca every day. I love it. Subies forever guys and girls. 😊
My 21 sti limited was around 17k more than I paid for the 2020 Wrx base I traded for it. Having driven both in the same day it ain’t 17k better stock for stock. It is definitely a step up however it’s like a Wrx with a stage one tune better not a v8 and adding a supercharger better.
I think it really depends on your situation. Personally I commute 50 miles to work everyday (100 round trip) I wanted something efficient but not boring. Something sporty but practical. Comfortable but with some above average performance. I think a WRX is perfect for that. It even makes a good small family car being a 4 door with a roomy trunk and back seat. I love my WRX. I think STI’s are awesome but I’ve never regretted choosing the WRX instead.
Personally have owning a 21 wrx and a 19 sti I did love the sti feel more than the wrx but for a daily definitely the wrx being more reliable and not as expensive for parts as the sti reason why I sold the sti and went to a 2018 50th anniversary wrx I got a lot of the sti type goodies and still kept the wrx reliable engine. Definitely agree with everything you said as well tho great video 🔥
1 love your content 2 new to the wrx /sti community last year . I went with a 2023 wrx limited . No regrets . I couldn’t justify the cost of a used STI and not knowing its true condition being used . 3 it’s one thing to afford a reasonable payment but most young buyers ( me @ 50) factor in insurance and daily maintenance that most forget and suffer from shiny objects and just say I want it ! lol , however my question is what is insurance like on west coast cause your gas prices are stupid high ? 😂🎉
Both builds were amazing and always super entertaining to watch I have a wrx at the moment and it’s super fun I can imagine how the sti is we’ll see what the future has for me and what kind of attachments do you have to hold your license plate in the back
I followed the full WRX build! Currently have a 21 WRX. I was bummed when you sold it. But you kind of reached your limit on building it! The STI has been fun to watch as well. Oh, I stick to Shell gas.
😂... I love both of them so idk if there's a need to decide. Since My pocketbook is in the dumps, I guess a WRX, Automatic too!---Only because I enjoy driving and Not working To Drive. I work too much as it is, I feel like working a stickshift, a clutch, and the basics are a Huge turn off and More work. Turn the key, put in gear, and go!!!!!😅.... until I park.... that's how I like it! 👍 Oh, And Racetrac/Sam's club is the gas station I go to.😉
Genuine question, if you were in a budget and can ONLY consider the wrx for around 22k. Would you prefer to settle fo a used 15 mustang gt at around 77k miles over the wrx?
At least look it up, but the reason why shifters feel different between the two is that the wrx is cable actuated and the sti is rod/linkage(feeling is more direct). Another difference in feeling is the steering ratio.
Great comparison. Honestly, I'm just too poor to own an sti. 😅 Luckily, I was able to get a 2020 wrx PP. Good enough for me since I have sti brakes (from 04-17), factory installed SS and recaro seats. I'm also able to hit 30mpg on a long commute
6:47 I'm 90% sure 'S/S#' is not a tune, it doesn't change the torque. All it does is adjust throttle response, aswell as 'I' heavily delays throttle response and reduces turbo spooling.
I love both WRX and STI. I also own both but I treat my STI like my weekend car and my WRX as my daily. I can say it's hard to choose between them both because they both deliver in their own ways. Plus my STI has very low miles and I'm trying to keep it that way . It's bone stock 8k miles 😂.
I love your STi more than your WRX. I have a 2018 STi bought brand new in 2017. I have tons of mods done to my car and love every minute of it. I would smile every time I would drive it, my 3 year old son loves it which makes me happy. It has full bolts and on flex fuel right now running e85, it’s amazing to drive. I feel like if you want just a quick car and make it a show car then go with a WRX, that way you can put bags on it and slam it whenever you park the car. My STi is sitting pretty low on Fortune Auto but I also have supporting mods for the suspension. STi is for race and WRX is for show is how I see it. But I have seen quick WRX’s though, not so much FA20 but obviously the older WRX’s with the EJ motor.
WRX was fun and economically sensible to drive as my daily driver. However, the STI is an enthusiast experience. STI is now my daily driver; if you can afford it, STI all the way!
i’m tryna get my first car and I’ve been looking into the wrx and a civic si both 2020 due to the cost and amount of cars for sale in my area. i’ve never drove stick before but i’ve had visual experience from my brother who owns a acura rsx. ima be attending my first year in college while playing football so I won’t have much time to mod anything. I came across your video tryna figure out if getting a wrx is worth getting especially for my first car. the wrx is my dream car and I have the opportunity to get it but i’m not sure if it’s the car I need. I’m glad I seen the vid bro and if you got any advice or suggestions for me on what I should do I would appreciate that bro.
I'm a little rice at heart and dont care much about speed so the WRX does it all for me. Mostly aesthetic mods on my end. STi is hella cool for sure though and definitely feels better to drive (shifter and all).
If you want to do performance go for the STI👍 but if you want exterior and interior mods then WRX it’s the best option 🔥YOU ARE THE REASON WHY I GOT A WRX!! 🙌
I think the difference between the two cars is the power ceiling potential, if you want more than 400whp get an STI, because the WRX 6 speed can't handle the power when compared to the STI 6 speed,
Stick to Cheveron especially if your car is tuned for higher octane fuel. It tests truer octane vs other gas stations where, say 91 octane, will test closer to 90 or even 89. Chevron is usually more expensive, but that's why
wrx is my first manual car, and i can tell its a very weird feeling when you shift, from neutral to halfway in gear it feels like its getting clogged or something, ive been looking into gearboxes and short shifters that fix it
Question for anyone. I purchased a 2019 WRX about 7 months ago. I want to do a lot of work to it, but the first thing I want to do are the brakes. A big brake kit is going to cost you $5k right off the bat, so it sounds more reasonable to just trade up to a 2024 WRX TR. The brakes, seats, and sound system alone balance out the difference in cost, of what I'd be spending to upgrade to the TR. Any thoughts?
I upgraded from an FRS to a WRX, and I really miss the race-car type feel. Think i'm gonna pull the trigger on an STI for sure. I fill up gas at Costco and haven't had any problems🤞🏼
I had a 2018 WRX for about 2.5 years before trading it in for a 2018 STI. Honestly, I do really prefer the STI because of the sound and the performance, but I have had alot of issues with it since getting it (probably because I'm the 5th owner of the STI whereas I was the 2nd on the WRX). Even with so many issues, I would definitely stick with the STI. Wish I would've kept my Varis wing before trading it in, but hey. You live and you learn.
@@chris_borges When I first got it, the engine jumped timing and had to be rebuilt the day after I got it. (That was like 6 months ago now?) Got it back after 2 months and had a bad o2 sensor. Then, last week, my power steering belt broke and my crank pulley got warped. Currently waiting on a new crank pulley. But other than that, my STI is stage 1 w/Cobb intake, straightpiped exhaust, and an HKS bov so at least it makes good noises when it runs 😅
sad to say i have both as well but the money i spent putting in my wrx came out to the price of my stock sti. and now my wrx is faster and better than my sti for the same price. Bank for buck WRX with a built block and some bolt ons is better then a stock sti and its all around the same price..
I had 2 VA STI’s before now owning my VB. WRX is a better daily and the STI is a better analog drivers car. If I could go back and choose 1 as a daily driver, it would be a difficult choice. That’s a testament to how good the VB WRX is (for its price). If you’re a WRX owner, yes the STI is special but your/our cars are dope too 🤘🏾 Btw Chris, the VB is a lot closer to an STI than a VA WRX in terms of performance/driver engagement
I use to have a 2010 Camry, until I bought a 2018 WRX. Never drove an STI, but I can say my WRX does not feel like the Camry in any way, lol. If I had the money, of course I would have bought an STI but honestly I'm content with my WRX.
1:02 chris: “now the main reason why you clicked on todays video, is you guys are probably wondering if you should spend all that money on an STI” Me: “nah bro you uploaded a vid so ima watch it”
I got a cvt made her stage 2 shes still fun lmao yall crazy. do i wish i knew i to drive manual or took the time, maybe but price was also better for cvt
I bought my sti back in 2020 and it was 33k with 15k miles for my 18 base and the non recaro seats are terrible 🤣 me and my friend make jokes about it sitting on plywood. I drove in a sti with the recaros and that’s the way to go the top portion of the seats are way more comfortable for the price difference they should have been included alone but of course they have to make more money. I own a 2020 wrx got it for 25k with 27k miles and don’t miss my sti for the 15 mpg I would get miss everything else but one day I will sti drivetrain swap my wrx. I find it crazy to buy one now unless it’s stock and not modified I happen to get two that haven’t been modified meaning tuned but my sti definitely had a catback since it had a crazy leak around the mid pipe.
Unless you are modding over 350 whp, or you need the trick differentials, MOST drivers will not notice the difference between a VB WRX and an STi. If you are going to spend 15k more for a used STi, why not just swap the transmission in the VB and be done with it. The shifter improvement is a cheap $100 fix.
Not a huge mechanic guy at all, can I get the same blow off sound without all the extra mods you put in if I just buy the blow off valve and the rest stock?
i'd love an sti just for the trans and brakes, but stock turbo vs stock turbo stis can't keep up with wrxs, and the majority of people are just doing basic bolt ons and not upgrading turbos, so if you want more affordable power the fa20/24 wrx is better fs
