A look at some of the subtle anatomy, timing and transition differences between two Canadian demo team members. Great skiing in both but fun to look at what they do differently.
Thanks for this interesting comparison Tom. I've been very fortunate to have skiied and been in clinics with both of these skiers. Interesting to speculate how their background has subtly influenced their technique. I think that Casey has a little more race in his dna and this seems to me to be reflected in his timing of the transition and turn shape. I know that he has been used as a pacesetter for the CSIA L4 exam race and has had involvement with ACA too. Warren is mr precision as perhaps befits his long tenure as coach of the CDN Interski team. Both great skiers.
Your analysis really points out how the each skiers' movements contribute to the resultant turn shape, and vertical drop. It is an another example of how moves made are not better or worse, they are just different. I think both instructors would approve of your analysis, well said.
Hi Tom, very interesting stuff. When it comes to you looking at the anatomy (the knee) in this case. How much is equipment ie; boot alignment? How much is flexibility? And how much speed? And finally how can you spot the difference?
Well I spoke to Warren and part of this is boot setup. New boots and he’s getting them dialed in still. He’s aware of the knee alignment. But even looking at his older ski boot alignment he has a straighter set of legs than Casey. And it’s not something you need to change it’s just what these two guys have. In certain situations like short turns Casey will be able to get a quicker bend out of the ski because his lower leg can tip the ski to a higher edge angle earlier than Warren. But Warren may be able to deal with slightly higher forces with ease because of his knee alignment.
@@Bigpictureskiing That’s great Tom thanks, In a gym environment, If I had a client like Warren and wanted to help him create a similar shape to Casey I would be looking at exercises that create more length in the muscles around the ankles and gluteus maximus. Would you agree this is a good starting point for this hypothetical goal?
@@blackwoodfitnessuk6496 I wouldn’t change a thing by trying to “change” Warren to have alignment like Casey. I’d work with Warren’s strengths. Don’t try and fit a square peg in a round hole.
@@blackwoodfitnessuk6496 anytime I like your thinking with your previous comment. And I was mostly saying I wouldn’t take an approach to rebuild someone like Warren because of how much experience he has and that already he is skiing so well. Second we don’t know without physical examination that his bones aren’t just lined up straighter and to make shapes like Casey may actually hurt him. Vice verse Casey working to look more like Warren. My some Archie has my wife’s leg shape which is more a framed compared to my x shapes legs. So he won’t ever look and ski the same as me even though he’s my son. We all tend to have our own style because our bodies like certain movement patterns and also because of our individual shapes of bones. It’s so nice that we do all vary a bit.
They are both skiing on completely different skis...Casey loves world cup slalom skis....needs to be taken into consideration and warren is just recovering from a leg injury also.
Wonderful video, Tom. If possible, would you please be more explicit about which approach is good/better? For instance, in comparing the femur angle, is Warren's preferable to Casey's? I am newer to this level of analysis and for those like me it's not always obvious if what you are pointing out is preferable or subpar. Thanks again!
Warren's been posting up himself recently and whilst extremely smooth, precise, seemingly fantastic efficient etc i have been thinking, this is ski instructor nirvani 'zzzzzz' - where's the excitement, but i guess, that's really down to the pupil and not the instructor. Very high level commentary by Tom ( as usual).
Thx for the video and comments. To my eyes 'yellow' skier shows more here: he is not in hurry entering the turn and when finishing it, upper lower body separation is top nocht. see @3:09
Interesting. I think Warren (top) at end of transition, is paying more attention to flexing his new inside leg, enabling more « avalement » contributing to the smoother transition.
I try to focus on the common elements with skiers at this level. But the differences are fascinating. It looks to me like Warren is more countered than Casey. I don't know if that's style vs taking a path more directly down the fall line?
